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Time since president trump took office, it really hasnt been about the u.s. versus south korea. its been about president trump versus kim jong-un. and so thats why there is so much more spectacle and atmospherics in this meeting. >> so, john, there would be tremendous gains, right, for north korea if this face-to-face meeting takes place. it helps legitimatize north korea, something its been longing for for a very long time. but then flip side to that, what are the gains for donald trump? are th...