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>> i think the collusion thing, ive said from day one, is a joke. i was there. we couldnt collude. we had a tough time colluding between the trump campaign and rnc. >> colluding, im sorry, between campaign and russians. not necessarily about this report about flynn. but, carol, steve bannon, one of the closest people in donald trumps orbit at the end of the campaign, certainly for much of the first part of the administration, and he is still adamant that this was a campaign that just didnt know ...