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Transcripts for MSNBC American Voices With Alicia Menendez 20240604 02:35:00

putting aside, do you put his former fixture on the stand? i absolutely would. i ve been an organized crime prosecutor, where the witnesses are always going to be codefendants, coconspirators. if you don t have them, it s not like a bank robbery. you might have somebody who happens to me making a deposit at the bank, witnessing a robbery and you saw the defendant. you have to have people cooperate in the conduct of the crime. you are used to that. honestly, michael cohen s slide, not only a minimalist, comparing multiple lies by the defendant who would be challenging him, but he was somebody that, rightfully stormy daniels seems more credible to me than don trump. when you re in that situation, i wouldn t have any hesitation

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Transcripts for MSNBC American Voices With Alicia Menendez 20220207 00:05:00

as i was reading this new york times reporting, revealing the committee is using aggressive tactics used against mobsters and terrorists i of course thought of you. and the number of times on our air you have made that comparison. what does it tell you they need to use those tactics in order to work around trump s you know stone walling? it s exactly that. he is stone walling. and everybody who is loyal to him is stone walling. and so the only way to get the information is one of two. one the department of justice could be calling them before a grand jury. and doing this. and otherwise the congress has to do it part of the january 6 committee. and they are using very excellent tactics. i started out as an organized crime prosecutor. and then moved onto the water gate case. i have done both political corruption. and organized crime. and the tactics you use are to get lower down folks and

Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20220204 03:13:00

democracy. so there a couple of different things if i were to adjust this, i would be looking at it. i would be looking at a wide range conspiracy to defraud the united states. i d also be looking at a potential racketeering indictment, as a former organized crime prosecutor, the rico statute is really designed for someone in this case, like someone like donald trump, who is orchestrating a wide ranging enterprise engaged in multiple criminal acts, racketeering acts, designed to further the criminal objective of the enterprise. and you don t have to if you re charge of, that you don t have to be the one who s actually executing the plan. you just have to unknowingly involve yourself in an enterprise that is trying to execute the plan. and it is designed for

Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20220204 06:12:00

in answering some of the questions that you just posed is, you have to understand that a conspiracy by david s nature does not need to be effectuated. it doesn t have to be completed to be charged. one fact, in the situation, you could imagine there is no way, that a completed conspiracy to overturn the election through a coup whatever be charged because you would have anarchy and complete destruction of the democracy. so there a couple of different things if i were the department of justice, i would be looking at it. i would be looking at a wide range conspiracy to defraud the united states. i d also be looking at a potential racketeering indictment, as a former organized crime prosecutor, the rico statute is really designed for someone in this case, like someone like donald trump, who is orchestrating a wide ranging enterprise engaged in multiple

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