stars and and ers from the back to the camel to the human. steve: what is he talking about? there is zero evidence to support the natural origin theory there is no sign that there has been another host and that is the circumstance incredibly transmissible airborne virus to infect the human respiratory systems in the one place in the entire world where the closest nonrelative is genetically manipulated into make it more infectious to the respiratory systems that they way very strongly this natural occurrence he should not be on tv or radio but on trial and the establishment
some lean toward the virus is coming from people whose infections are not being captured by sequencing. others suspect it may be coming from virus infected animals. possibly the enormous population of rats. even then the favored theory can change from day to day or hour to hour. what is your reaction to that? it seems kind of concerning, especially given the widely accepted origin theory. what we know now is there is so much of this virus that it has gotten into various animal species. one of the reasons we ll have a hard time eradicating this virus. mutations happen. we re picking them up in waste water. whether they represent random mutation that s don t mean much in humans or animals. we ll have to sort that out. you often use the analogy that covid spikes are like weather. when cases are high, it s a downpour. when cases are low, it is a drizzle and we can start
were dealing with a plague. and very limited borders. we have such porous borders that limiting it based on this emanating origin theory that it came from southern african nations, when we have now proof that it was probably present in the netherlands and in other places, maybe even weeks earlier. it begs the question, what are we doing? we re buying time, but how much time are we buying and what for? the president has laid out a plan. we need to need to move from crude measures to the ones that really target this. and as you pointed out, we ve got the delta variant surge in parts of the country that are a problem today, in the here and now. i saved the toughest, what i view is the toughest question, for last. if we see cases go up measurably, a kind of upward error that gets all of our attention, how to know if that s thanksgiving? a newly emboldened delta variant? or the new variant making its presence known in our country?
dangerous coronavirus, you would not design this one. if we can find any evidence of this virus previously having been sequenced or worked on, maybe there s fragments of the virus which were used previously in experiments, it would be, quote unquote, a smoking gun. and we didn t find anything at all. and by march 2020, anderson published what would become the most influential paper in support of the natural origin theory. by the end of april 2020, the bioengineered weapon theory seemed to have been laid to rest. the director of national intelligence puts out this really remarkable memo in which they agreed with the broad scientific consensus that the virus was not man made or genetically altered. a few hours later, president trump comes out. and what gives you a high degree of confidence that this originated from the wuhan institute of virology? i can t tell you that. i m not allowed to tell you that. over the course of 2020,
before. does the data exist to say convincingly there weren t early ancestors of the virus in the lab? dr. lee herself has been asked about this and she has denied it. they ve tested all their bat samples in the freezers, and none of them had sars-cov-2. i trust them. we ve been talking about some of the best scientists in the world here. but another important origin theory stems from dr. lee s lab in wuhan. somebody s the closest relative to sars-cov-2 was this bat virus called ratg-13. ratg-13 was found in a horseshoe bat. the sample was taken by a team of researchers from the wuhan institute of virology. it was collected from a mine were six miners had worked and were later hospitalized with