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Kristen welker, our white house correspondent on the north lawn there. kristen, there is a part of me that thinks how much of this is for public consumption and how much of this is a real rollback of jared kushners access? >> reporter: well to your first point, chuck, i think clearly this is for the public consumption, because there was so much pressure put on this white house in the wake of the rob porter scandal. of course, that itself the staff secretary, who was facing allegations of abuse b...