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Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Papers 20240604 22:37:00

johnson. but elsewhere, people inside johnson. but elsewhere, people inside the home office are saying this will inside the home office are saying this will take at least two years. rather this will take at least two years. rather different time frames there. lots rather different time frames there. lots of rather different time frames there. lots of people raising concerns about lots of people raising concerns about this lots of people raising concerns about this as a policy. what s interesting as it has been tried before interesting as it has been tried before by interesting as it has been tried before by israel, which was not successful. it was not unsuccessful policy~ successful. it was not unsuccessful oli . ., , , successful. it was not unsuccessful oli . , , ., policy. people ust began their “ourne policy. people ust began their journey at policy. people just began their journey all over policy. people just began their journey all over again, - policy. peop

Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Papers 20240604 22:38:00

not have the effect the home office is heping for? is hoping for? i think that s going to be the inevitable is hoping for? i think that s going to be the inevitable result. - is hoping for? i think that s going to be the inevitable result. if- to be the inevitable result. if you ve tracked halfway across africa, halfway across europe, in very difficult conditions, these journeys are not fun. you may have beenin journeys are not fun. you may have been in a lorry, or a truck, or in the back of one. it s very uncomfortable, very unsanitary. you end up in one of these camps, and then you re literally risking your life going off the channel and a small boat. being sent back to your were rhonda if that happens, because there ll be a lot of challenges, this will be wrapped up in masses of legal red tape and rightly so because the legality of it is highly dubious. bill because the legality of it is highly dubious. because the legality of it is highly dubious.- people - because the legalit

Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Papers 20240604 22:33:00

minister and the chancellor face fines over themselves breaking laws during lockdown, so i m very cynical about when this comes out. the unhcr obviously is very worried about people being shipped off to rwanda. we ve heard enough bad stories about what happens in the migrations dissension centres here, let alone rwanda. you could have a theory where somebody would get sent back, which is disturbing. there s also theissue which is disturbing. there s also the issue of cost. this is going to asked terribly of sensitive it be absurdly expensive. no wonder there s been a ministerial direction here are the permanent secretary has a problem with the policy and disagrees with a set issue of

Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Papers 20240604 22:34:00

grounds. i think the one on the grounds. i think the one on the ground of cost, because it will be so expensive. this puts the policy firmly at the door a priti patel, so if there is a call to account, it will be at the door a priti patel. let s look at the front page of the telegraph. still on this topic. this is talking about a mutiny that priti patel faces from staff over this plan. rosamund, it s mentioned that the way that this came into being, a ministerial direction was involved, and that significant. ministerial direction was involved, and that significant. we ve only had one of those and that significant. we ve only had one of those before and that significant. we ve only had one of those before in and that significant. we ve only had one of those before in the - and that significant. we ve only had one of those before in the last - one of those before in the last 30 years. one of those before in the last 30 years. and one of those before in the last 30 years, and t

Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Papers 20240604 22:36:00

the government is a saying that in the long term, this will save britain money. the long term, this will save britain money. the long term, this will save britain mone . ~ . ., , britain money. well, their claim is that it will put britain money. well, their claim is that it will put people britain money. well, their claim is that it will put people off - britain money. well, their claim is that it will put people off coming, | that it will put people off coming, and some that it will put people off coming, and some of the other papers have looked and some of the other papers have looked at and some of the other papers have looked at the fact that willits? there s looked at the fact that willits? there s a looked at the fact that willits? there s a lot of synergism about that there s a lot of synergism about that asceticism. will it. it ends that asceticism. will it. it ends up that asceticism. will it. it ends up paying off in the longer term

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