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For years, is he being hypocritical? some people are saying -- we should be saying its poetic justice and not irony. that john lewis is doing what he is doing. >> certainly hes being hypocritical. anyone in the country should not be surprised is donald trump. because as you mentioned he was the leader of the birther movement. he would not put it down even after the birth certificate was published. he would not put it down. sure, its justice. >> do you believe in karma? >> i do. i believe in the ...