difference. mark, if hillary clinton had tested much better, than joe biden, what would have happened then? craig, i m still convinced that biden would have been on the ticket. even if hillary clinton tested better, i think it would have sent signals of panic that president obama was dumping biden for hillary clinton. the end of the day, the person on the vice presidential ticket doesn t matter all that much. that person can lose you the race but they rarely win it for you. the sign that somehow that would have been a big sign to everyone that team obama was behind and needed to do something very major to shake things up. president obama had a four-point national win over romney and very decisive victory in the electoral college. he didn t need that at all. and i think they probably made the right calculation, even if the polls showed hillary clinton would have tested much more positively. i m waiting to hear what joe biden says about all of this. i m sure it will be quite the
modern family voter. first, there is minorities. making up their largest share of voters on record. latinos now 10% of the electorate, hitting double digits for the first time. more than twice as many unmarried women backing president obama over romney. and again, he won big with young people. this electorate is here to stay. it is only going to increase. reporter: very rapidly turning red and blue america into a much more colorful place. cecilia vega, abc news, tampa. i hear a lot of analysis last night about the enthusiasm gap of minorities. younger people came out. big numbers. 60%. that is my question, look at the young stat and go, those are folks 20-something in college, who are politically coming of age in this obama era. you wonder can republicans bring that back, or that perhaps a lost generation because of their getting entrenched now. will that last for the next few decades of their life if they remain politically active? interesting, where the country is going.
exactly. but frankly, paul, nobody knows, with 100% assurance exactly what this electorate is going to look like on tuesday, and if anybody tells you they do, they re lying. paul: okay. now the other big discrepancy in the polls is the difference between the national surveys, which have obama and romney very, very close to tied and the state swing state polls, which have, except for north carolina and florida, basically have the two candidates either tied, but obama having a one, two or more point lead, as many as five in some state polls, lead over romney. why the discrepancy between the national survey and the state polls? the discrepancy is caused by the tremendous number of negative ads that the obama campaign ran against mitt romney over the course of the last six months. a rising tide lifts all boats, but it doesn t lift them quite
halfway between 2004 and 8. exactly. but frankly, paul, nobody knows, with 100% assurance exactly what this electorate is going to look like on tuesday, and if anybody tells you they do, they re lying. paul: okay. now the other big discrepancy in the polls is the difference between the national surveys, which have obama and romney very, very close to tied and the state swing state polls, which have, except for north carolina and florida, basically have the two candidates either tied, but obama having a one, two or more point lead, as many as five in some state polls, lead over romney. why the discrepancy between the national survey and the state polls? the discrepancy is caused by the tremendous number of negative ads that the obama campaign ran against mitt romney over the course of the last six months. a rising tide lifts all boats,
about 1100 likely societ voters. look at another poll, political poll for choice of president. one point, president obama over romney. this was october 1-4. it does not really get a full sense of october 3 debate. you have gallup. post debate. there you see the before and after. tied. again, that is registered voters not likely voters. gallup hasn t changed that. one more back to politico voter look. this is likely voters. you see the split among supporters. some of that poll is before the debate. so we re already starting to see some of the effect of what both sides are calling a strong debate performance by romney. bring in the panel about the state of the race. hayes for weekly standard. a.b. stoddard, from the hill.