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Just as a result of how its being used? >> the crisis has gotten to where we are over multiple decades, physicians werent educated. pushed by pharmaceutical companies and pushed by the insurance industry because it was cheap and unfortunately people were getting addicted. its an easy find on the street. it has fueled, fueled, fueled. and here we are. steve: all right, dr. saphier thank you very much. >> thank you. brian: congratulations. >> thank you. happy to be here. brian: mike dewine won the...