so, i don t think the republican party was destroyed by president bush. i think that we went through a tough i hope that the house and senate republicans realize reform is their responsibility. they have no one to blame. their job is to go out and get the job done. bill: okay, now, you would agree with me that we are not a very good period in america right now. that s correct. bill: we have a lot of problems that need to be solved. i put to president bush last night, i want to play this sound bite now and i want you to react to it. i put to him that, look, don t you as a former president for eight years and a guy who instituted some policies that are in play right now, don t you have an obligation to suggest the path the country might take? roll it. i don t think it s good for a former president to be criticizing his successor. but here s the problem for the folks. i don t want to be. bill: i know you don t. in the arena criticizing my successor. bill: the folks live
from 67 to 6 . 67 and 68 to 70 in 2000 i don t like that. there were almost riots in france as they raised the retirement age there from 62 from 60. we re talking about an extraordinary retirement age here. and at the same time, within the recommendations of the deficit reduction commission is an additional payroll tax for social security. so what they re asking the american people who do is to pay more into social security and obviously take less out by raising retirement age. it s unreasonable. it s a continuation of what has been the problem. taking money from the private sector, putting it into the public and redistributing wealth. bill: okay. but the trend is for people to work longer. sure. bill: be healthier and, you know, look at you, what are you 75 years old now dobbs? just shy of it. bill: come on. just shy of it. bill: you don t like the elimination of the mortgage interest tax deduction.
weeks, it s a window. you have got thanksgiving, you have got christmas. there is not a lot of time. you know the republicans are just leslie, they are going to go crazy on this issue beginning on monday. they will go no way you are going to raise taxes. they are going to be screaming and yelling. right now lou dobbs, can i hear him. is he hyperventilating over the prospect that taxes might be raised. i mean, this is what is going to happen next week, leslie. i m scared heart attacks and hyper ventilation. at least i m healthy with you at the moment, bill. i have to tell you the president has a responsibility, especially if he wants to be reelected of having a great economy. the reality is the bush tax cuts were set for a decade and the bush tax cuts did not help to stimulate the economy. bill: they did in the beginning. they got us out of the 2001 recession. where are they now? bill: we re here because of a big wall street con, not because folks are paying taxes or not. look
talk show host and you guys got wiped out? that was rush limbaugh s take to be pillarried by oprah. everyone on the stage was enormously successful during runs that were unprecedented when gauged against the hundreds of talk shows that are proposed and get mounted an then last a couple of weeks. i was on for 11 years. i was the lowest tenure me and ricki lake. everyone else was there for more than 11. we had great runs oprah was and is the prime number one. she is a self-made billionairest. the highest income earner among american women. i think she is an amazing story. but the see phil donahue there and the virtue of the forum to give the daytime audience for credit for having half a brain. i think that was very interesting. we had some fun both on camera and off camera. we all got together later on in the evening at the four seasons hotel. bill: i want to stop you
in a more practical or i guess international sense, the united nations has a convention against torture that is universally prosecutable. what that means is you may remember the chilean dictator general as you gus teen teen-augustine when he chileans when he took over that country. what if bush goes to canada. he goes to spain. he goes to belgium, another country that has shown an interest in doing these transnational prosecutions. bill: they can grab him but they won t. as a practical matter everybody is saying that george w. bush will get a pass that this is basically for propaganda. he will get a pass. he probably will. people are commenting on the identical spectrum ideological spectrum.