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Aircraft i can either deflect it, absorb it more, can i go below it and i can evade it. that had to be an individual with that type of knowledge and that type of skill. >> and j.p., you know, the elevation changes, one thing a lot of people are talking about, possibly could it be causing people to think that maybe there was a fight in the cockpit? >> that initial one that i have read about in the "times" were by the aircraft go up 45,000 feet and does a turn and comes back. that looks to me like...

Aircraft up there, do what we call like an octo flugeron. >> you think he stalled at 45,000 feet? >> he ran out of airspeed. this aircraft. >> thats scary. >> if i took this thing along at 35,000 feet and wanted to do a zoom climb and put the power all the way 8-5 maximum speed. start to shake. roll trim up. get that plane up. it will run out of speed at maybe 6,000 or 7,000 feet. this is not a fighter. so the momentum would take it up to 45,000 feet and the airspeed would be going down towards ...

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