i think they knew a relative of his, but nobody had seen him anywhere in this building before or has any recollection of anything that he was talking about. >> yesterday was a difficult time for all of us. i'm not a pan zi, but i will it tell you, i was very afraid. i was scared to death. i did my talking in behalf of my life and my friends. when we tried, bill and i tried, our best to talk with him, the first thing i said to him was, hey, what is your problem? ky help you? is there -- what's your difficulty? and he looked at us and he kind of mumbled several times and i said if there's a problem with your wife and your job, i will do anything i can do to help you with your wife and the job. hey, all this time, folks, we were trying -- we were looking for time. we knew we had mr. jones, but you know mr. jones was not always -- is not always in this