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sick and desperately need care. and the fallout? >> if they become cynical about that, we're not going to have people show up and volunteer for the kind of rigor we put them through, theç service in uniform. >> he's right. a shocking report coming up ahead. >> shark attack. ♪ ♪ >> yes, music aside, the moment a great white mistakes a boat for a chew toy. another reason to stay on land. mornings, according to everybody we talk to, are better with friends. >> it's sean hannity here. you're watching my good friends, elisabeth, steve and what's his name? >> brian. >> sean just left the building about five minutes ago. >> sometimes i stay up super late and i -- >> later on we're going to
discuss the craziness that happened at the conclusion of brian'sç birthday. it's been written on the blogs. this fine young lady went crazy yesterday. it was a birthday celebration no one will ever forget and we'll tell you all about it. >> i have two things to show, something the crew gave me and something you gave me, which we have to review. the look in your eye at the end of your show is something i still can't get over. i called keith ablow. i said try to make sense of this keith. >> wait until you hear about it. this is really something. we've with been telling you about this terrorist group called boko haram out in afrhsa, how they killed an entire village. in the last couple of weeks they have kidnapped 300 young girls. they're going to sell them into slavery. they burned a bunch of boys. they burned down a village. it's all bad. and now word is because we did not place them on the terror list of officially
known terrorist groups, it is going to be harder to go after them. and who exactly made sure that they were not placed on the terror list? hillary clinton. >> she has enough going on. this can't be added to the list. question as well, can she cover this on twitter? she tweeted this week with the hash tag bring our girls back. >> that brought a lot of attention to this. everyone is lauding her saying isn'tpá great. >> and the rights of women and young girls, those are pillars of what she wanted to accomplish in her time at the state department. but right here what she didn't actually tweet, and perhaps because it was over 140 characters, was the fact that her own state department did not place boko haram on the list of terrorist organizations which would have forbidden authority to increase security to them, increase assistance to nigerian security forces in nigeria and perhaps could have
saved these girls earlier. >> here's the statement. it says there was a concern. and the reason why the state department did not do it, there was a concern thatç putting boko haram on the foreign terrorist list would be in fact, raise its profile, give it greater publicity, help with its recruitment and drive more assistance in its direction. there's all types of theories about how to deal with islamic extremists, which this group is, and they are listed as an al qaeda affiliate. so i don't think giving them additional publicity and credibility might be the number h-p one priority on the surface, especially the f.b.i. called me, the c.i.a. is on my voice mail, all these people are doing it. if you do it and you're in the state department, i feel pretty good i have good backing in washington. >> she did not take that advice. >> mr. carson's explanation on how it would raise their profile notç only with all of us but the bad guys as
well, that is crazy. it is audacious for hillary clinton -- keep in mind, and there are some of the people from that boko haram organization. for hillary clinton now to over the last couple of days to talk about how bad they are, given the fact that she could have done something a couple of years ago and did not and the fact that her big initiative last week was to help women and girls, there is a little hypocrisy going on. >> what is the theory if you continue to say it does not exist it won't be there? this once again proves that is not the case. >>ç we're sending people over there now. it is going to be a lot harder. even china has responded. >> we're sending 20 people over and it sounds like without guns. >> if anyone can, we can. but this is, again, something that was a spark early become full flames now. >> she's got a lot of on
her plate. yesterday she was here in new york city and sat down with robin roberts of abc news, and she was at the ford foundation, and she was asked about that pesky benghazi thing. you know those darned republicans, they keep bringing it up. here's what she had to say about answering all the questions regarding benghazi. listen. >> of course there are a lot ofç reasons why despite all of the hearings, all of the information that's been provided, some choose not to be satisfied and choose to continue to move forward. that's their choice. and i do not believe there is any reason for it to continue in this way, but they get to call the shots in the congress. >> darned republicans. >> so as lindsey graham says if she doesn't want to come and answer the questions, then she shouldn't run for president because there's going to be a lot of people asking the same questions in small towns in new hampshire and
big towns in florida. >> whenç asked why, and provide the explanation for the deaths of, vicious murders of four americans there in benghazi, she didn't want to be there. susan rice was sent with talking points, with a narrativ. that's where you get that quote of saying if she can't handle that, if she can't handle looking at the american people and telling the truth, how dare she consider herself qualified? >> trey gowdy is going to head up the benghazi select committee. he says he is going to call her. he has been receiving death threats as well. he said as long as they're not for my wife, i can handle them, as a former prosecutor. we want to know regarding benghazi, when will you be satisfied? what is it you want to get out of it? is it just for it to be over? is it to finally know about the security lapses or the connection with the whiteç house and it looks like a conspiracy coverup? e-mail us. facebook us. tweet us. >> or is it just that you
want these guys killed or captured. >> the families lost their loved ones that day, at least for them the truth shouldn't be so hard to get. >> heather nauert will be delivering the news. >> i've got a horrible fire to tell you about that police believe was intentionally set. there are new developments on this story. was someone trying to kill a famous tennis player? investigators trying to figure out who set the fire to james blake's house in tampa that left four people dead? and did theyç know that he was not home at the time? that he was renting out his mansion? dramatic 911 calls were released. listen. >> i was walking my dog and the house exploded. oh my god! >> calm down and take a deep breath. >> it is just so horrible. >> police say there were four victims in the house, two parents and their two teenage children. they were brutalized before the fire was set.
this home is in an exclusive area known for its heavy security in the tampa area. we'll keep you posted. new overnight, the country of uruguay is offering to take six gitmo prisoners, but there is a bit of a catch here. the country's president says he will take these terror suspects only ifç washington agrees to let them live free. no response from the white house just yet. the president of uruguay is set to meet with president obama on monday. will lois lerner face prosecution? that's the big question this morning after the former head of the i.r.s. was held in contempt. the vote in the house was 231-187, all republicans voted in favor as well as several democrats. lerner is being held in contempt for refusing to answer questions about the i.r.s. targeting of conservative groups oefrp their proposed tax-exempt status. oklahoma city thunder'sç russell westbrook and m.v.p. kevin durant plan to
wipe out basketball. those were not the only lights going off. just before half time the arena lights went out. 2002 teams playing the final 27 seconds of the half in the dark. finally about halfway through the third quarter the lights went back on. oklahoma wins 112-101. those are your headlines. didn't look like people were too nervous about either. >> that's called panic. >> it was half the stadium. they had to use hand signals instead of electronics to get the plays in. >> they all came out with coal miner hats. >> a little distracting. ten minutes after the hour. let's change gears and talk about something you're quiteç passionate about. that's the state of the v.a. right now. it turns out that if you look at the average that has to get medical care,
about 26 minutes if we walked into the e.r. it's two times longer than that if you are a veteran of service and waiting in a v.a. hospital. >> right. startling information, an accusation that 40 veterans died as a result of waiting in the hospitals. the v.a. department didn't get to them. and those lists thatç were destroyed providing the path to death when it comes to those that have given their life so bravely for this nation. so why is this the case? really it's about a promise that's made. >> 23 veterans throughout the country they say at least have lost their lives waiting for medical care. >> the government is not being forthcoming with statistics on this so "the washington times" took a look. they reviewed eight veterans affairs inspector general reports. it shows the average wait at v.a. e.r.'s can be ten hours. ten hours for the vets to
wait. jim nickolson who used to run veterans affairs says this is awful. >> the real serious term is young americans who we depend on to enlist, men and women who come into our armed services, we have a compact with them that we're going to take care of them if they're hurt while serving urbgs and that's the -- serving us and that's the v.a.'s job, if they become cynical about that they are not going to show up for the rigor we put them through to show up in uniform. >> by the way, the guy who runs it, shinseki, even though the american legion is calling for him to go, also a number of republicans are saying he's got to resign, he says i'm not goingç anywhere. and the white house says we're standing behind him. he's doing a great job. >> jeff miller, who chairs the committee on house affairs says this proves
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it happened in 2011. we show it all the time. it's a prime example of wasteful spending. the group citizens against government waste highlights all kinds of outlandish federal spending inç its annual congressional pig book which is now out. here to take us through this year's porkers is the president of citizens against government waste. we finally for the first time after years of efforts have yielded the booking of a mascot called pig foot. pig foot, wave to your audience. all right. or not. whatever you choose. there you go. tom, let's get to it. pork pick number one, and play along, pig foot, $90 million to upgrade the a1a1 tank. the problem? >> the army wants to wait three years. 2,000 of those tanks sitting in the desert in california unused, and they are susceptible to i.e.d.'s, however we're
still usingç them. they need to modernize the whole tank system, the whole fleet. so they don't want to do anything right now. the congress, where these are being built, wants to keep the money going. >> so who wins? congress? >> well, the members that think the defense department is there just to create jobs feel good about it, but it's not doing anything to improve national security. >> get ready for this pig foot because we have to throw out $2.6 million all part of the denali commission that even obama identified as something that could be cut. >> there are agencies that deep indicate theç work of the denali commission. $2.6 million this year, almost $300 million in earmarks. >> that stayed. pig foot only threw out
about three bucks. symbolism. the last one is the pacific coast recovery salmon fund. it seems to recover salmon is admirable. what's the problem? >> this is money added on by senator patty murray, a member of the appropriations committee. the grouper in florida, lobsters in pha*eup, -- maine, they probably deserve help too. but we don't want them to create new programs to helpç them. just another example of pork. we found more than 109 projects worth $2.7 billion in this year's appropriations bill. >> you have this book out. over the years of having done this, do you see it making a dent on the consciences of those in washington spending the money. >> we have found items, the congress says there are not any. this is way down from the record, $29 billion in earmarks in 2006. the year before we found
14,000 individual earmarks. we're down to just over 100 earmarks worth less than $3ç billion. we're concerned people will keep doing it again. harry reid said the other day let's start earmarking again. we've got to watch them. >> pig foot, i've heard a lot about you but to see you in person is almost a thrill. thank you. tom shatz, good job. go get his book. let me tell you what's straight ahead. speaking of your money, congress can live without a pay raise but there is one thing they cannot live without. having their cars paid for by you. we'll explain. does your mom always tell you not to sit too close to the tv. is that really a health issue? we'll separate mom advice from fact advice with dr. marc siegel. withç mother's day a few days away, he's a brave man.
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we've got headlines for you. colorado lawmakers just approved the first official banking system for pot shots. until now shops could not anksusiness with bigç because marijuana is illegal under federal law. remember? and remember last week when members of congress bragged about blocking their latest pay raise? turns out there was a catch. they removed the amendment that would have blocked their monthly allowance for car payments. bet you didn't know about that. >> because i said so, that's why. did your mom always say that? >> in honor of mother's day this weekend, we are finding out the truth. this is such a dangerous segment. about all the health advice
you remember her doling out while growing up. >> here with mommy myths, dr. marc siegel from our medical a team. good morning to you. >> i know brian's mom and i'm going to speak directly to her. >> the thing about brian's mom right now, she is probably sitting close to the television to watchç brian. when we were growing up, we were told by moms and grandmas don't sit too close to the television. it will screw up your eyes. >> maybe the original tv's from skwrefplt -- general electric caused too much eyestrain. now no. kids that are sitting close to the tv may be showing they need glasses. >> right. that was me. >> pay attention. but the tv is not causing it. >> what about the iphone when i see kids looking like this? >> it is not causing a problem. it can cause eyestrain temporarily. goes away ifç you rest your eyes. >> this one brian wants to be true.
does gum stay in your stomach for seven years if you swallow it? >> that's another myth. it actually gets digested. it's the part that doesn't get absorbed. it's like vegetables. it goes through. it doesn't get absorbed. like celery. it doesn't attach to the stomach walls. you pass it out. >> what about about the gum when you bite on it, it squirts into your mouth? soda will settle your stomach? snacking will ruin your dinner. sugar willç make you hyper. is that a fact? >> soda is bad for your stomach. my mom used to say have a coke, you'll feel better. no. it's acidic. it will aggravate your stomach. sugar bloats you. >> what about the other
one? >> he read them too fast. >> snacking will ruin your dinner. that's true. >> no, it's not true. if you actually have in between like some seeds or some nuts, something to regulate -- >> seeds? >> something to regulate your glucose, a little cereal. something in between. you want to snack on crackers, you want to snack on nuts. fruit isç great to have. fruit is great in between. just don't load up on candy bars. >> sugar makes you hyper? >> i'm calling that a fact. science says i am wrong but i'm positive that's true. there was a study from yale that if you take kids in the morning and give them a lot of sugar it will interfere with their attention span. science, i want you to catch up with mom on this one. >> then you're wrong about the snacking fills you up because it does. >> i'm not wrong about
that. >> time-out. >> the only one that is a fact is that last one. sugar makes you hyper. >> what just happened? i don't even know. >> you read themç all at once. >> don't get over the fact that you just dissed your own study. >> i'm trying to say that mom is sometimes right. if i don't give her one fact here, they're all going to write in. >> dr. marc siegel, thank you very much. >> straight ahead, a chaotic crime scene gets even crazier when this happens. [screaming] >> wait until you hear who is behind the wheel of that car. >> the government needs to tax you more to repair the country's highways. whatç happened to the stimulus? stuart varney says the money is all gone. good morning. all rise. >> happy birthday not to
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always love my mama" has to do with this picture. it is mother's day weekend. they said bring in throw back thursday pictures. this isç the first selfie i did with my son peter. back in the old days when you did a selfie you had to wait to get the pictures back from the drug store to find out if it turned out. >> you get double. >> look at him drooling on my sunglasses. >> oh, that is precious. >> who's that? >> heather nauert. >> mother's day of course is this sunday. i sent in a picture to honor my mother. >> very nice. >> there's maria, i believe, at graduation. >> looks like it could be. >> do we have clarification on that? >> any way, because it is throw back thursday, hash tag tbt, we would love to see your throw back pictures.
we have inç the past given you assignments. send to us whatever you want to. e-mail us at friends@foxnews.com. >> are you saying you gave assignments and they let you down? >> no. we asked for prom pictures, baby pictures. >> we don't want to coach you. later we're going to find out the story behind maria's picture. steve: i want to nope who who -- >> i want to know who those individuals are. >> i'm guessing it was his graduation. i've got news to bring you. it is sad news coming out of houston. there was a real chaotic; @fc @ scene that erupted yesterday at a murder scene in texas. there was a suspected killer's father who plowed his car through a crowd of people. take a look at this. [screaming] >> you can hear the
witnesses, the onlookers and even the journalists screaming as they run for their lives. there were about a hundred people gathered out there as cops were investigating that crime scene. cops arresting that driver after he tried to jump from his moving car. neighbors say he simply snapped after he was taunted by a member of the victim's family. >> the pilot who crashed into a house in colorado walked away. we told you about that story earlier. he actually used to live in thatç house that he crashed into. how bizarre that? 52-year-old brian beach was towing a banner in the sky when the plane lost power and then crashed into that home. the homeowners were not there at the time. certainly a good thing. beach says it wasn't until he ran around to the front of the house that he looked at it and realized he used to live there. it is going to cost you more to ship things with fedex. there will be new prices that will be based on size and not weight. here's the idea. to hit customers who ship all those bulky packages,
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in the universal they took it out. the shark finally got one guy. >> i can't even play sharks in the room. >> welcome back to confessional thursday. heather, thank you very much. 23 minutes before the top of the hour. extreme weather making its way across the country in central kansas. a severe thunderstorm brought powerful winds that were so strong, they threw train cars right off the track. >> that's inç mcpherson, kansas. two people were on board at the time. nobody was hurt. maria molina is out on the streets of new york city where currently it is a little drizzly but p's not the kind of rain we had last night. >> it was pouring last night across parts of the northeast. here in new york city we're going to be dealing with on and off showers not only today but also over the next few days. we have a little bit of a stretch here across the northeast of unsettled weather but across the
plains, that's where we can see possible severe weather. take a look at current temperatures. this is one of the signs that we could be seeing strong to severe storms. in kansas city, you're currently in the 70's. it's very early in the morning. you're in the 60's in chicago. later this afternoon those temperatures are going to continue to warm and we could be seeing severe weather anywhere from texas up intoç minnesota. that area shaded in red across iowa and southern minnesota, that's where the storm predictions think we could see possible long track tornadoes. that is a big concern. if you live in des moines, southern part of minnesota, make sure you have a way to get the warnings today. let's head back inside. >> maria thank you very much. did you know that every time you fill up your gas tank, part of what you pay goes to the government. that's right, 18 cents per gallon is sent to the highway trust fund which is supposed to help build and keep our nation's roads safe and up to date. >> i thought our infrastructureç is falling
apart. we have no financing. except is now the obama administration says these funds are set to run out in august. how can that be? >> what happened to the money we gave during the stimulus? stuart varney has the answers. >> spent it. borrowed more, spent it. we're now out of money by august. we have no more money left to rebuild the nation's infrastructure and highways. >> where did the money go? it obviously didn't go to the highways. >> we don't have a full accounting of whether we got our money's worth. we run out of money come august to rebuild the highways so guess what? what do you think we're going to do?ç borrowing more is an option. >> just raise taxes. >> thank you, steve. >> here's the option. you raise the federal gasoline tax from 18 cents a gallon, you add on 10 to
15 cents per gallon. that's a short-term fix that's what the c.b.o. says you need to give us $18 billion a year for the next ten years. raise taxes. that's interesting because that taxes everybody. everybody who buys a gallon of gas, you pay that tax. this is not tax the rich. this is tax everybody who drives. >> it's people at the lower end of the food chain who hurt the most. you've citedç this in the past, the day that george bush left the white house, i think the price of gasoline a gallon was $1.85. >> that is correct. >> now it is $3.50 a gallon? >> no. the average price now is $3.65 to $3.70. long term there is the option of bringing back tolls on interstate highways. bring back those tolls. we haven't seen that in like 40, 50 years.
bring them back to raise money. or tax drivers for every mile they drive. not every gallon of gas they buy but every mile they drive. >> sending this back to the american people over a mistake. >>ç absolutely. >> people react. are you going to do that? going to drive less? that mean vacation stops are going to be less. people are going to need less tires, less maintenance. everything is link to link to link. they don't see down the road. >> cats and dogs will be living together. the end of the world is nigh. >> you are minimizing my point. >> this is the first time you've quoted "ghost busters." stu varney check him out on fox business today, 11:00. >> coming up, do you want your 14-year-old daughter read[ng porn in school? this dad, he sure doesn't.
>> what are you charging me with? >> disorderly conduct. >> that dad looking out for his daughter was arrested. he joins us next. >> speaking of porn, we have no time to finish that. an e.p.a. worker not fired but rewarded. ♪ ♪
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a father shows up to his school board meeting to express concerns about a risque novel that his daughter who is 14 years old was required to read. watch what happens there. >> what are you charging me with? >> disorderly conduct. >> disorderly conduct.
[inaudible] >> my arm is messed up. my arm is messed up. disorderly conduct. >> joining us now to share his story is that father there in cuffs, williamç bair. good morning. what was your reason for being at that meeting in the first place? >> very simply, the school basically dropped the book on us monday last week, and wednesday we saw some passages in there that were very troubling and they really wouldn't address it. the principal, i wanted to meet with him immediately, and for whatever reason, maybe a scheduling problem, we didn't meet. at that point i realized this was a much more significant issue than just my daughter. i knew at some point we could just not read the book. it's not like they were going to force us technically to read the book, but it was required reading for ninth grade. the story got out and it was all over the papers. and basically what happened
then is i met with the principal monday, this pastç monday, and i asked him about somebody reading the passage so we all know what we're talking about at the school board meeting that was scheduled for this past monday evening. and he didn't want to read it. he said it had to be put in context and all the nuances have to be communicated. i said put it in context, talk about the themes and then read it. finally he, the president at gill ford high school told me in private, he said i don't feel comfortable reading it. my retort was if you don't feel comfortable reading it, why are you requiring my 14-year-old daughter to read it. it is pageç 313 of the book 19 minutes. from my perspective it should not be in the hands of a 14-year-old. if other parents want them to read it, i don't have a problem with this. at the same time i don't need this to be thrust upon my family.
i feel like they violated my family and it continues. >> your daughter is 14 years old. the egg was already out of the shell. it is not as though there was a permission slip that went home. i would have read the material. most parents have a right to do that. i actually couldn't sit here on this program and read it verbatim because it is so explicit, definitely not fit for children, uncomfortable and graphic to say the very least. >> elisabeth, i was going to say that the editor ofç the local paper basically said -- and he's also the mayor of the town, ed engle said in quotation in the lincolnia sun, pretty much no paper in the country could print something like this. the idea that this is not fit to print in a daily paper, but the school board thinks it is appropriate to have this required reading.
even if it were required reading, if that is what the community determined, that's okay. but give us notice. real notice, realç consent. the school, the principal admitted that, he said there was notice in the past and now i find out there was no notice in the past. they said there was notice in 2007 when it was issued and i would like to see that notice because it was probably kind of no-notice notice. >> we hear so much about the need for fathers to step in and what happens when they don't. bill o'reilly has been greatly vocal about the effects of when a dad is not in the picture, how it can lead to devastating results, particularly young women. you as a father step in, you want to say my kid should have the right about reading this. do you feel your first amendment rights were null and void there, completely erase stph-d >> i totally think there is a first amendment isqu and my legal team will be
looking into this. i'm an attorney as well. i was licensed in new jersey for 20 years. there are serious issues here. there is no question this was the quintessential public forum, a school board. and they -- every indication is that two-minute rule was implemented just they don't answer any questions. they refuse to answer questions. there is no accountability. if you meet withç somebody, it is in private. no cameras, no people, no accountability. there's no question there is a first amendment violation here. they compounded it by arresting me for pointing out that it was a first amendment violation. now i'm being prosecuted by the state. i mean, there's violation after violation. rape.
this violation by the state, as far as i'm concerned -- >> i did read that, sir. we're going to stay on this. please let us know what's to come. we wish your daughter well. she's 14. stay with us here. thanks. >> thank you very much. i do a lot oresearch on angie's list before i do any projects on my home. i love my contractor, and i am so thankful to angie's list for bringing us together. find out why more than two million members count on angie's list. angie's list -- reviews you can trust.
president obama is sending a small team of u.s. military and law enforcement to nigeria to help recover almost 300 kidnapped school girls. the president says it's an opportunity for the world to bring down a terror organization. but judge napolitano says what about that? he joins us live right now. do you thi'k it's a good idea we get involved there? >> i don't think it's good idea that we get involved in nigeria. i don't think it's in our national security interest.
i think it establishes a terrible precedents. i say this with my heart bleeding, figuratively, over what's happened to these young women. now, i don't know if the government of nigeria is behind this, is afraid of these people, or is protecting them. but if we enter nigeria absent an invitation from the government, it's the legal equivalent of an invasion, whether we send the nypd, special ops. the president knows that. i honestly think, one of the rare times i'm going to say, this the president's heart is in the right place, but he has to think twice before he uses american power to solve what is basically a domestic police issue in that country. >> i saw on television yesterday, there are a number of democrat congressmen who are calling for the president to go and doñi whatever it takes, drones, whatever. where does that come from? >> i think it comes from their heart's aching over this situation where these young
women, god only knows what's happened to them, absolutely no equity, no benefit, no argument on the side of the bad guys and alt equity, all the sympathy is on the side of the women. but you have to think of the legal and geopolitical consequences of entering another country without a treaty justifying it, without the law justifying it and against the wishes of the authorities there. it's going to have unintended consequences we don't want to live with. >> it was big news yesterday. lois lerner was found in contempt of congress. we want to talk to you a little bit about the ramification of that. can you stick around? >> of course. >> more with judge napolitano coming up. also straight ahead, we're going to be talking about that and you saw brian's big birthday bash on the show yesterday. there it is right there. so what happened after the show and that cake? oh, my goodness. okay. that's not the crazy part. the crazy part comes later. stick around
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good morning. today is thursday, may 8. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. they are vicious criminals accused of killing off entire villages and the white house wanted them designated as terrorists. but hillary clinton said don't use the t word. now the fallout of that decision ahead. and remember when president obama said this about the irs. >> no mass corruption? >> not even mass corruption. not even a smidgen of corruption. >> tell that to congress, the house. now charging lois lerner with contempt. is jail the next stop for her? and if you think things got heated on our set, wait until you see this. that's why we don't have a desk. what led to the table flipping fight seen around the world on
that tv show. this tv show has a motto and the motto is mornings are better with friends. >> this is bob eubanks from the newlywed game. you're watching fox "friends." whoopie. it's my favorite word. >> that is a good word. whoopie. >> you know what? i don't think lois lerner was saying whoopie yesterday. it was bad news for the administration. bipartisan households her in contempt of congress and they have, in a separate resolution, urged the department of justice to appoint a special prosecutor. republicans are hoping this would be a way for her to finally answer their questions about the targeting of conservatives. there were a number of democrats who voted against their own party. so this was bipartisan. >> one of the biggest things to happen is the judge is refusing tother sit-in. >> the judge here to help us with the legal agele and whether
she'll turn up in jail. what also is significant is some democrats say i have a probable with her taking the fifth and not transparent with the irs. >> politically it's significant that the democrats did this. so it doesn't look like it's one party ganging up on her because in reality, what she is accused of doing, accused of doing is abusing authority and tampering with the first amendment. that cuts both ways. nobody can favor that, republican or democrat. it's very complicated where she is legally right now. the house cannot prosecute her. the house can only ask the united states attorney for the district of columbia, a federal appointee, an obama appointee who works for attorney general holder, to prosecute her. >> the irony is that holder is quite familiar with being held in contempt. >> he was held in contempt by the house for the earn ma in which he subpoenaeded to subpoenas over fast and furious. this same u.s. attorney said i'm not going to prosecute my boss, not 'cause he's my boss, but because he has a claim of executive privilege.
he discussed these documents with the president. lois lerner does not have that claim. if she makes it, if she says i discussed that with the president, whole new ball game because you saw what he told bill o'reilly. not a smidge or smidgen. i'm not sure what he used -- of corruption. >> you're saying it would imply there was -- >> coordination between the irs and the president of the united states. her only defense is her statement, i didn't break the law. i followed irs regulation, is not a waiver, a giving up of her right to remain silent. candidly, case law goes both ways. some case law says you invoke your right to remain silence, you can't say anything else. if you say anything else, you've given up the right to remain silence. in other cases, a general denial is a general denial. >> if she didn't break the law, republicans say, she should have testified in fronts of them. what's extraordinary is it all started with an apology. out of nowhere she planted a
question and said i'm sorry about this. >> it's an effort to make herself look good. remember the movies where the mobsters used to read a statement, i'm not going to testify 'cause my lawyer told me i have a right to remain silent? that's what you have to do. you have to be sigh lentz persistently. if you say anything above that, you get yourself in trouble, like she did. i don't know where it's going to go, but my guess is that the u.s. attorney who refused to prosecute his boss will refuse to prosecute her. >> you know with a? darrell issa, who heads up the oversight committee on the house, a republican from california, he tweeted this out yesterday: unless president asserts executive privilege, there is no precedent for the u.s. attorney for dc to do anything but pursue this criminal case. #irstargetsing. >> that's a correct statement of the law. but we're dealing with a very, very, very political department of justice that will find some way to protect its own.
if they prosecute this lady, the statement that the president made to bill o'reilly will be germane to that prosecution. >> this is something that she does, cross party lines. everybody should be concerned about get to get bottom of the truth and admitting, at least giving some information out there. and nancy pelosi missed the boat. she was at a fund-raiser, but there were six democrats who voted for this, voted to hold lois lerner in contempt. >> you have a lot of purple and you have a lot of red states. >> keeping with the colors there. blue dog democrats there basically moderate, centrist democrats who have difficult reelections and don't wants to be perceived as sticking with the party line come november. i don't blame them. part of this is congress' fault. they give the irs a little bit too much leeway to invade
people's lives and scrutinize what they say. >> between benghazi and now the irs, it looks like the white house is on defense. >> i think so. and i don't know that the president can stick with that statement he made to bill. >> all right. judge napolitano, thank you very much. >> pleasure. >> if not, we'll call bill back in and change it. what i meant. >> pleasure. >> look who is over there with the headlines today. hello, mrs. nauert. >> hi, mr. judge. great to see you. i have some news to bring you. some disturbing news. coming out of the state of florida this morning, here is the question that investigatessors are asking: why would someone want to kill a mother, a father and two teenage children in their rented mansion in a ritzy part of tampa, florida? the home was owned by former tennis star james blake, but he wasn't there at the time. he had been renting it out. investigators say there was a fire that was intentionally set and that some sort of accelerant, possibly fireworks, were used. this is the 911 call that's been
released. take a listen. >> i was walking my dog and there was a house exploded. oh, my god! >> take a deep breath. okay? >> it's horrible! >> the four victims tentatively identified as 49-year-old darren campbell, his wife, kim, and their two teenage children, collin and meghan. they were in high school together. police say the victims were brutalized before that fire was set and that home in an exclusive area known for heavy security. we'll keep you posted on developments. the islamic terror group that has been terrorizing nigeria kills once again and this time possibly as many as 300 people in a nigerian village. this as we learn former secretary of state hillary clinton fought to keep the al-qaeda-linked terror group off the state department list of official terror organizations. under clinton, the state department repeatedly refused to go after the group now responsible for kidnapping hundreds of girls.
we've been telling you a lot about that story. that refusal was despite the urging from the f.b.i., c.i.a., and more than a dozen senators and congressmen. new overnight, the country of uruguay is offering to take some prisoners at gitmo. he says he will take them if washington agrees to let them live free. no response from the white house on this yet. the president of that country is set to meet with our president on monday. what do you think of that? no, this is not an episode of jerry springer. it's just an average day in the life of jordannian television. take a look at this. yeah. that fight was over freedom of the press. the guests traded insults and then started tearing apart that table. the host then had to end the
program. keep it going. those are your headlines. >> felt like that. >> that's unbelievable. >> you know what? actually there was some tension on the set yesterday. it was -- >> on the veranda. >> it was in the after the show show. we had guy fieri on from "diners, drive-ins and dives" and he was presenting brian with a birthday cake. i don't know if you heard about it. out of nowhere, elisabeth decided in the after the show show, you were going to take that cake and destroy it -- >> i don't recall any of that. >> i don't know who was in her ear or what took over her body. >> steve doocy. >> but this woman called in her survivor training and went after me like there was no tomorrow. >> my aim was a little off. >> then as weird as that got with her running down 48th street with this cake, out of nowhere came a stranger and it just got weirder. watch. >> it does have a scent of
licorice. it has a -- >> i can't believe it! look out, people! there's a crazy lady in high heels! look out! >> who is hiding brian? >> oh, my gosh! what happened? >> rock'n'roll! >> so what happened? so elisabeth is running by and that guy just grabs the cake out of her hands and smashes it into his face. >> it wasn't his birthday. >> no, it wasn't. and then he gave you a high five, which could have broken your wrist. >> it was behind the bush. i didn't know what else to do but hi five. when in doubt, give a high five. cake everywhere. >> i went over to the guy afterwards and i said, why did
you do that? he said nobody else had. as it turns out, this guy is a prankster from the opie and anthony show. that is an image off of their instagram where he went on in the studio to describe how he screwed up your birthday. >> right. >> he took your cake. >> right. i didn't even know what was happening. i'm on radio and i see this thing pop up on tv news and all of a sudden chaos broke loose. but the look in your eye, i don't know if someone said if you don't throw this cake at him you're going to be fired. so the speed you have is incredible. >> you gave a push and a jab there and a duck. you got out of it. >> elisabeth is unbelievablably creative. she made me this for my p birthday. the whole family. what's behind? >> this is, because of your 50th birthday, we took page 50 from your book and put the
secret 6 in many places to form a 6. kilmeade goes, why a 6? because the book is number one. it should have been a one. >> yesterday during the show, i get a card from the crew. look at this. this is from the crew who i never met in person. brian, in honor of your birthday, i want to show you a side you don't often see. >> of the crew. >> they showed me the back of their heads. >> our generous side. >> this will be great. i get to hang out with the crew. good job. thanks a lot. i appreciate it. that was creative. >> what a crazy party you had yesterday. >> right. as usual the party gets better when i leave. >> i tried to find you. steve made me do it. >> i did not make you do it. she did look crazy. >> team work here. >> coming up straight ahead. this french economist getting rock star status for preaching about income inequality.
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to hear more of michael's story, visit lyrica.com. a new book on income inequality is sending shock waves around the world. french economist, capital in the 21st century, is being embraced by the left and liberal media is off and oning over his theories. saying the most important of the 21st century. the new yorker saying, you can't afford to ignore it. and the "new york times" calling it, not just important.
it's beautiful. fox business senior correspondent, charles gas free know took a look at it. he says what about this book? >> it ain't beautiful. the last thing you want to say about this book is that it's beautiful. it's 700 pages. it's probable low the most 700 legubruius pages i ever read. karl marx in every other line. basically the world is rigged against the little guy. that income inequality is against the little guy and the only solution is socialist policy. i don't know who will be the irs here or collect the taxes. maybe the u.n. but he wants a global tax on anybody that makes more than $500,000 a year. you get taxed at 80%. >> with that global tax on people making more than half a million dollars, the juicy part
is that he would have the united nations running things. they would be the world cop. >> who would be the irs? it would have to be the united nations. so america, would have to give up its sovereignty to the united nations under this plan. >> government should adopt a global tax on wealth, progressive global tax on capital around 2%, punitive 80% on incomes above half a million dollars. also what's interesting is his call for that 80% tax rate is not to generate tax revenue. it's to level the playing field. are successful are closer, beat down to people at the othernd of the food chain. >> what his general thesis is there is no way for the poor and working class to move up because the rich have the game rigged. all they have to do is not invest in companies. they have to just invest in the
stock market and sort of make money out of the games of the stock market rather than investing in businesses to help grow, because market returns will always outpace the returns of gdp, thus the game is rigged against the people that have to live on the gains and gdp. >> all we have to do is look in our rearview mirror during the eisenhower years and jfk's administration. taxes were around, what, 85, 90% back then. it was jfk himself who said this is crazy. i got to cut them. >> right. >> and did he a little bit. reagan did a much bigger job. >> i'm not for income inequality. but let's be honest here, what he forgets and misses is that people go out and earn their money. bill gates, i don't like his politics, but he created microsoft. warren buffet created berkshire hathaway. the author makes it sound like these rich guys just happened to land -- millions of dollars happened outland in their laps. >> he's a french economist in
france. what is it, 60% of the people of france work for the federal government. socialist government. >> i have family in italy. they're alt -- all on the government dole. if you want that economy, america, read this. the "new york times" calls this beautiful, read the first ten pages and tell me how beautiful this is. you can't get it in new york. >> look at that. >> i tried to get it! >> capitalism. thanks. coming up, it's the first in the world, lawmakers in this country approve the first bank for the weed industry. so looks like the country is going to pot. plus, you know her from the hit tv show "gray's anatomy." but there is a not you don't know about sarah drew, like she's a devout christian. she's coming up next. good morning to you, sarah. good job!
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work. nobody got fired. he did get, however, an award for stellar performance. congratulations. >> wow. you know her from love life on "grey's anatomy." now sarah drew is taking on the stresses and joyce of motherhood in a new movie "moms night out." take a look. >> this is me trying not to have a panic attack. i should be happy that they're making me breakfast. instead, all i see is salmonella. everywhere. on the floor, on the counters, on my children. i'm a salmonella phobe. >> wait, that's my house! that's me! >> all of a sudden it looks like john madden -- sarah drew is here. you're watching the movie and laughing at the same time. >> yes. i relate. i relate. >> how did you get into the mind and heart of every single mom? that's exactly what we see. that's you! >> i e. know.
that is me. i read the script when my son was ten months old. i had just become a mom. i don't think i could have played this role had i not been a new mom because it is such a crazy, chaotic, beautiful, terrifying experience all at the same time. i wouldn't have been able to understand it had i not been there myself. >> the movie looks hilarious. we had your co-star, sean astin on here yesterday. this move yes is never going to make it because first of all, it's not dirty. it's loan. it's got a pro-christian message. how dare you? >> how dare we. i know. we're so offensive. >> so set the scene. you guys are frazzled. as a mom, you feel like you're being shut in, so your husband says, go out. have a good time. we'll handle things here. your husbands. >> yes, yes. so we go out for a night on the town and the husbands stay with the kids. and everything goes wrong. it is one disaster after another. there is a car chase, a biker gang gets involved, people get tased. we wind up in jail.
>> typical night for mom. >> i know, yeah. after waiting and waiting for a night out. this is the one that you get. >> this is our weekend plan. i cannot wait to do this. what's exciting is it just relates, there's a strong call to see it because of that. so many moms see it with the salmonella drawing. there was an article in glamour, i believe you talked about relationship. you say sometimes -- correct me if i am wrong -- feeling hopeless doesn't mean your situation is hopeless. you talk about a relationship hiccup that you had. >> yeah. my husband and i had a really dark time in our marriage and we realized that we really needed help. and it was the moment that we realized wed intoed help was a moments when i called my dad and i was like, i feel completely hopeless. >> your father is a pastor? >> my dad is a pastor. i always turn o him when i'm feeling at my wit has end and i
need some wisdom and guidance. he's like, honey, i'm so sorry. my heart is breaking for you. but just because you feel hopeless doesn't mean the situation is hopeless. i believe that there is a way out of this and after several months of therapy, it's just so great! it's like the healing happened and then we came out on the other side so much more in love and so much better friends. such an incredible gift. >> talking can do a lot. >> yeah. >> did you meet your husband before you had all this success? >> yes. i am so thankful that i met my husband when i did. i was so young. i was 18 and it was before anything had happened in my career and he has been my rock. my rock and the person who brings my feet back down to the ground whether i get all caught up in the crazy hollywoodness of everything. so i'm so grateful for him. he loves me for who i am at my core. not for anything that i've done out in the world.
>> you've done so much, though, in addition to this movie that opens tomorrow with the pro-family message, you're in "grey's anatomy," got the big finale coming up. what's interesting is you were telling us during the commercial that when your husband, because you've got a solid relationship now -- when your husband really wants to make an important point to you, he writes you a letter. >> he does. he does. my husband pursued me through handwritten letters. we met at a camp together. >> in the beginning. >> in the beginning when we were young. it was like in a letter, he asked for my e-mail address. in an e-mail, he asked for my phone number. on a phone call, he asked to come visit me. he was very careful and very gracious and respectful of me the whole way through. >> he's a keeper. >> he's a keeper. >> he has his own christian mingle. >> mingle of one. >> thanks for sharing that story with us. >> yeah. >> good luck with the movie. it's going to be a big hit. >> thank you.
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fascinating -- that before becoming that hate preacher, he ran a strip club. he's a((uáq" of organizing a terror training camp in oregon and als supporting the taliban and al-qaeda. he faces life in prison if convicted. he also claims he had worked for mi 5. chaos erupts outside of a murder scene in texas when a suspected killer's father plows his car through a crowd of more than 100 people. look at this. a whole lot of witnesses out there. even journalists and a lot of folks there running and screaming for their lives. cops availably arrested the driver as he tried to jump from the moving car. neighbors say that he snapped after he was taunted by a member of the victim's family. we'll keep you posted on the update. the country is the first ever banking system for pot shops has now been approved by
colorado state lawmakers. until now, most of the businesses were cash only because banks rejected basic services to those companies because pot is still considered illegal under federal law. and speak of drugs, toronto crack's smoking mayor rob ford is apparently having a great time in rehab. in a new interview he says, quote, rehab is amazing. it reminds me of football camp. okay. let me keep going here. he says it's kind of like washington redskins camp he went to as a kid. what? poor thing. he checked into rehab a week after a new picture surfaced of him smoke crack in his sister's basement. you can't make this up. those are your headlines. >> you can't. is rob ford at betty ford? >> i don't know where he is. >> it doesn't sound like people who everged from betty ford are healed. >> thank you very much.
>> maria, you are standing by outside to give us a peek of what's going on weather wise. >> good morning. it is still raining here in new york city and surrounding areas in the nor east. we are going to have a couple of unsettled days here across the region. it's going to be cloudy, couple of showers will be possible here and there as we head into this weekend. i want to take you farther west. look at some of these current temperatures. this is a sign of things tocome. early this morning you're already in the 70s in kansas city and in dallas. and there is a potential for severe weather, from texas up into wisconsin and minnesota, and one of the elements of severe weather is hail. take a look at this video out of colorado, large hail that came down yesterday. that was the story as well across other parts of the plains states. hail coming down, multiple reports of tornadoes as well across colorado and unfortunately, that risk is in place yet again today. the storm prediction center has issue add moderate risk across iowa and southern minute machine where we have the potential for
tornadoes. by friday, the risk spreads from arkansas to indiana. have a we to get those warnings coming up today. let's head over to you, brian. >> let me tell you about sports. another case of thunder causing a blackout. russell westbrook, who is good and kevin durant playing lights out basketball. the pair combined for 63 points. here is the bigger story against the clippers, there was a problem with the lights. they went out. during a timeout just before half time, a power surge caused the lights to dim of the they are playing for the final 27 seconds of the half in the dark. oklahoma city was put on. best play of the day, not even the player that's on the field. watch this. it's a met game. >> look at this. beautiful. >> the miami marlins' ball boy making an incredible diving catch over the wall to snag a foul ball against the mets.
the marlins won 1-0. no word if this guy's got a contract yet or how much he's being paid. i'd double his salary. have you seen this video? a soccer match in bolivia. plenty of game out of their own. unfortunately for one of the dogs, an angry player didn't enjoy their romp. he will snatch the animal and tries to get it off the field. a ball boy, again, comes to the rescue. a bolivian ball boy at that, saving the dog and the game. great day for ball boys everywhere. time to celebrate. >> he wants to win the game. >> that's all. you can't use your hands in soccer. >> coming up on radio between 9 and noon, we'll have senator chuck grassley talk about the hands off rule. chris wallace who seems nice, i've never talked to him in person. and so many other great surprises. >> i bet that is the case. coming up here, college
professor says his own university is breaking the law by basing college admissions on race. he joins us with the shocking proof next. congress wants to cut the budget. just don't touch their car allowances. they have car allowances? we'll explain. >> rob ford says he likes rehab because it reminds me of a football camp he went to as a kid. his parents said, that was also rehab. ♪
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a pay raise. bad news, they couldn't part with their monthly allowance covering their lease on their cars. the cost to taxpayers? nearly a half million dollars a year. and it's going to cost you more to ship bulky things with fed-ex. from 10.07 to 13.81. you might want to get your own toilet paper. elisabeth? >> thanks, brian. this college professor says his own university is breaking the law by basing college admissions on race instead of merit. that's illegal in california and the supreme court just ruled laws like that are okay. that ucla professor has proof and is putting it in a book. he joins us now. good morning, sir. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> so what exactly did you find six years ago and why are you bringing this to the fronts again now? >> let's see. probably eight years ago is when it all began, 2006. i was on the faculty oversight
committee for admissions at ucla. during that year, there was a significant drop in african-american admissions, like 20%. ucla implemented a new system which is called the wholistic system. then after implementing that system, african-americans admissions skyrocketed. almost doubled that year. and meanwhile, at the same time, they were touting the system, the reason it would increase african-american admissions, because it takes account of their socioeconomic disadvantages. but the strange thing i noticed, i was getting data 'cause i was on the committee, was that the other socioeconomically disadvantaged groups like latinos and vietnamese, which may be more socioeconomically disadvantaged among the applicants at ucla, their admission rates dropped. so something weird was going on. i asked for data from the admissions staff. they refused and in 2008, i resigned in protest from that
committee. >> so it was a denial of those in your findings that you thought was completely wrong. so you actually say here that the controversy surrounds this idea, that approximately 20% of the african-americans that ucla admitted would not have been admitted if it weren't for the racial differences? >> that's right. >> how can you prove that? >> well, one, when i resigned, ucla decided oh, we need to deflect attention from this professor resigning. so they did the equivalent of a blue ribbon commission. they hired a sociology professor at ucla and four years later, they released his study and this person did an honest job. if you look at the statistical analysis in his study, it shows that. now, he concludes that about 33% of the african-americans admitted would not have been admitted if it weren't for the racial preferences.
he also finds that asian americans were discriminated against. that if it weren't for the discrimination, 9% would -- their numbers would have been 9% higher. >> where is the pressure coming from, if this is indeed the case? >> you know, a lot of it is interest groups. just before the wholistic system was implemented, there was a big protest there, 2 to 300 students occupied the hallway outside the chancellor's office. i think it's also coming from the legislature. i hear rumors about that, we're going to decrease the uc budget if you don't increase diversity. the regents of the university, i have a quote in my book from the provost from the second command of the entire system said that yes, lots of regents are saying they're going to fire chancellors if they don't increase diversity. >> wow. we do have a quote from the ucla chancellor from a faculty meeting. several constituents cities of -- constituencies are
distressed. there is pressure on the numbers of underrepresented minors on campus are too small. so that was from 2008. highlighting their -- >> that was 2006. just before we implemented the wholistic system, chancellor abrams came to my committee and i don't know if you call it pressuring, but definitely lobbied our committee to change the system to a wholistic system. i might say after i resigned, the head lawyer for ucla denied what i said. i said that ucla implemented the wholistic system to increase the numbers of underrepresented minorities. everyone at that meeting was agreeing with that, including the chancellor. then after i said it in public, the head lawyer denied that. one thing i found with this, it's something like the little boy who says the king has no clothes. everyone knows the truth, but no one will say it.
it's so strange. i feel like almost that the only person who will admit these things. >> wow. it is definitely hot button issue there. we thank you for joining us this morning and we'll stay on this as well. thank you, tim. >> thank you, elisabeth. coming up, did stossel invent facebook? the story of capitalism that you need to hear. but first on this day in history in 1963, sean connery starred in his first bond move yes "dr. no." in 2010, betty white is 88 years old, became the oldest "saturday night live" host. in 1977, "hotel california" by the eagles was the number within song. ♪ ♪ so's his serve, and his mandarin [speaking mandarin] xieúxieú, hou chiú but like up to 90% of americans, jim falls short in getting important nutrients from food alone.
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the left is lashing out at capitalism, claiming the system is rigged against the american dream. the american dream is dead. >> it's tough out there. it really is a rigged game. and it's set up now over and over -- >> it's probably always been. >> well. not like this. it's set up over and over and over that the rich get richer and the powerful get more powerful. they've got all the advantages of concentrated money and concentrated power. >> should i mention they're both rich talking to each other? two millionaires talk being how bad it is for the rich who are rich. john stossel says not so fast. he joins us right now to talk about this. is it really a rigged game, john >> it all has been to some extents. the rich have connections. they can now in america, you can get out of the government school monopoly and get a good education. we still are mobility in
america. most of the rich go down in the income. their kids do and most of the poor are up a quinntile. so it's not like you're locked in this position and this idea -- what they're selling is it's hopeless. government must take care of us. that's just wrong. >> it's just you inherits the money as if there are five families running the entire country. what is the exchange bar? talk about that. >> well, on tonight's show, we look at all the people who created new things and made it. exchange bar and grill is -- most restaurants fail. it's amazing that people dare start them. this place has -- puts the drinks, as you see, up on the wall and the more people buy them, like the stock market, the price goes up. the fewer people buy them, it goes down. it's gimmick, but it's working and they're doing well. >> it shows creativity and shows a fun factor which is judge people go out. you talk about people run their own businesses. yeah, they have stress of
insurance and payroll. you say studies show they're happier. >> the people who are happiest in life are people running ther own business. though they do -- odds are, p won't work. wonderful america, you can try and try again. they work longer hours. but they're happier. >> now, you said you started your own facebook, your own v of facebook? >> i started facebook, darn it! i was in college at a guy's school and i got a trip to these girls schools. i got the freshman pictures of all the girls. we published them in the book. but the internet hadn't been invented yet. >> you were ahead of your time. i saw the studythat says entrepreneurship in our country is at a 30-year low. there is less entrepreneurship in our country right now than any time since the '70s. >> i would like -- okay. since the 1970s maybe. i would like to see that study. look what we got. instagram, lift, uber, 3d printing, fracking, wonderful things are being invented all the time. >> fracking my idea.
but again, we didn't have the drill. john, tell me when we can watch you tonight? >> 9:00 o'clock. we'll talk about the beauty of starting your own business. >> and it's beautiful to see you. thanks so much. coming up next hour, you're not going to believe it
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what are you waiting for? (vo) celebrate this memorial day with up to 40% off hotels at travelocity. (gnome) go and smell the roses. good morning. it's thursday, may 8. 2014. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. they are vicious criminals accused of killing off entire villages and the white house wanted them designated as terrorists. but hillary clinton's state department says don't use that t word. great. meanwhile, hate waiting in line at the doctor's office? now imagine waiting two times as long. well, welcome to being a u.s. veteran. the insulting new information about america's emergency rooms. does this sound fishy to you? the government spending millions of dollars on salmon. are they endangered? they look happy.
>> how happy does that fish look? how can you tell the fish is happy? >> i asked it. mornings are better with friends. >> hear ye, hear ye! this the town cryer. you are watching "fox & friends"! >> mornings are better with salmon. >> salmon. >> welcome aboard. last hour was kind of dull because elisabeth did not come after you with a pastry. >> i know. unbelievable. >> happy birthday day after for you. >> i was just thinking about that. steve is so sick of my birthday. he had to go to my party on long island. then take phone calls yesterday. >> i had to talk to my friend todd yesterday. >> then you have to go over
elisabeth attacking me with a cake. >> it was actually steve has idea. >> stop it. it was not. anyway, happy day after birthday. >> now let's talk about what's happening in the world. >> look at the cover of the new york post today. you've got the first lady, michelle obama, holding this up in the white house that says #bringbackourgirls. what she's talking about is the group boko haram, they're the people who kidnapped 300 young girls over in nigeria. >> islamic extremists. >> right. this terror group is. and what it sounds like they're going to sell them into slavery for as little as $12. extraordinarily, michelle obama is talking about bringing them back. last week hillary clinton was talking about bringing them back, and yet it turns out hillary clinton had a chance to do something to crack down on this group and simply did not. >> that's right. against requests from f.b.i., c.i.a., a dozen senators and congressmen, she did not put them on the list of foreign terrorist organizations in 2011.
perhaps because it didn't fit with the narrative, some would assert, that al-qaeda was dead, they were on the run. we had nothing to worry about. and they didn't want to ruffle any feathers there. this is johnny carson, his defense of why that never occurred. he said this. >> he said there was a concern that putting boko haram on the foreign terrorist list raises profile, giving greater publicity and greater credibility, help in its recruitment and drive more assistan in its direction. if you were that concerned about that, why did you put hamas on that, hezbollah on that? al-qaeda? if that was a legitimate concern, did you not care they were getting stronger and additional funding? why what is wrong with call ago terror group a terror group? then you find out where the money is going, then you have additional veins of terror to scoop up and take out. >> sure. but to elisabeth's point, remember before the election it was all about yeah, bin laden is dead, al-qaeda is on its heels.
they're on the run. but then if you talk about these terror groups and this is another one of those islamic extremist groups, makes the president's reelection look bad. of course, then there is the whole thing about benghazi. it happened seven weeks before the election against mitt romney. and we now know all -- well, we've got a lot of questions. we don't have many answers. that's why there will be this select committee. trey gowdy who will head it up mentioned yesterday he will call hillary clinton as a witness because she was running the department. she would know a lot about it. >> he was quoted as saying this is not a tea party. i'm not inviting her to a cocktail party. when i subpoena her, i expect her to be there. last night with megyn kelly with his quote. hillary sitting down with robin roberts at abc, again, dismissing those that want answers too easily. take listen. >> of course, there are a lot of
reasons why despite all of the hearings, all of the information that's been provided, some choose not to be satisfied and choose to continue to move forward. that's their choice and i do not believe there is any reason for it to continue in this way, but they get to call the shots in the congress. >> people say this is out of balance. i don't know how anyone can have a problem of examineing hillary clinton's record. when you look at should we have a reis the with russia, that was hers. she misspelled it. that didn't work out. now you look at the situation with the terror group, i had no idea about this. no one is denying this. this is all part of the report card that matters. james writes to us on facebook and says, i want to know why the ambassador was at such a poorly defended embassy, who refused to send troops when attacks started and who start the satisfied. the question is what, do you
need to know yet from benghazi out of this special counsel? >> perhaps omission will be the next hash tag, omission of detailstails and truth. someone says, when the truth comes out and someone pays for what what they did to these men, that's she'll be satisfied. >> when robin roberts asked about benghazi, hillary clinton didn't ask what difference does it make. >> she tried that once. >> i think when it comes to those of the families killed, they're not choosing to be concerned. they deserve those answers. continue to send your responses in. >> right. there are people on the left who say it's a phony scandal. if it's a phony scandal, then they won't find anything, so calm down. >> let's see if they'll participate. that will be the big question. heather nauert is participating in news. >> we've got new developments out of florida. a horrific fire and it has a whole community in mourning today. it was a deadly fire that took place at tennis star james
blake's mansion. cops in tampa are saying this fire was sets on purpose and that explosions were heard inside that house and they possibly resulted from ammunition or from fireworks. the victims, the mother, a father and two teenage children. this is the dramatic 911 calls are released. take a listen to this. >> i'm walk my dog and the house ex plodded! oh, my god! >> calm down and take a deep breath. okay? >> it's horrible! >> this happening in the early morning hours. now our fox affiliate is identifying the four victims as 49-year-old darren campbell, his wife, kim, and their two teenage children, coolen and meghan. he was a senior in high school and she was a freshman. that home is in an exclusive area that's known for its heavy security. we'll keep you posted on these details. in the meantime, listen to this story. this coming in overnight. uruguay offering a to take six
prisoners from gitmo, but there is just a little catch here. the country's president says that he will take those terror suspects from gitmo if washington agrees to let them live free. what do you think of that? no response yet from the white house. the president of uruguay is set to meet with president obama on monday. will lois lerner face prosecution? that is a big question this morning after the former head of the irs was held in contempt. the vote in the house was 231-187. all republicans and several democrats voted in favor of it. she's being held in contempt for refusing to answer questions about the irs targeting of conservative groups over their attempts to get tax exempt status. we all remember this, the half million dollars government -- taxpayer funded actually, shrimp on a treadmill experiment in 2011. the newest congressional pig book is out and highlights all that outlandish federal spending like that. it now includes this year,
15 million being spent on pacific coastal salmon recovery fund. whatever this is. or there is this, $90 million in upgrade an army tank. listen to this. >> the army doesn't want the upgrade. they want to wait three years, save $3 billion. 2,000 of those tanks sitting in the desert in california being unused. they need to modernize the whole tank system, the whole fleet. so they don't want to do anything right now. the congress, where these are being billed, wants to keep money going. >> and we've got the pig right there. okay. another example of wasteful spending -- brian, not you. the pig mascot. >> thank you. $2.6 million for the commission which the president has said could be cut. whatever that is. but there is a whole lot of stuff that we are paying for. lot of people not so happy about. >> right. do you want to walk that clip over the daley show or do you want know?
do we make it that easy. the editor is like okay done. i can take lunch now. i was focusing on the waste. not on the pig. by the way, was cross eyed for some reason. when you have a mascot, at least make him look straight ahead. am i correct? >> didn't notice. >> the pig reps are calling in. let's move on from that to this. when you go to the emergency room, you need to see a doctor fast. people go to the emergency room because it's an emergency. as it turns out -- remember over the last couple weeks we've been telling you thousand looks like, according to an investigation, at least 40 veterans died waiting for care at that hospital, the v.a. hospital in phoenix. now according to research, it looks like the average vet waits twice as long than a civilian at a v.a. hospital to get emergency care. also according to the washington times, what they've done is they have looked at some of the inspector general reports for
the v.a. and it shows the average wait times at v.a. e.r.s can be up to ten hours. keep in mind, it's an emergency and they've got to wait ten hours. >> really just to think about why those in an instant would defend the lives of others can't have their lives protected medically whether they return here. when you hear what the former secretary of veteran affairs said about the long scope here what, this means in termination of the promise that we make to our military men and women, it will just get in your heart. >> real serious repercussion of that i think long-term is that the young americans who we deny depend on to -- pen on to enlist, we have a compact with them that we're going to take care of them if they're hurt while serving us. that's the v.a.'s job. if they become cynical about that, we're not going to have people show up and volunteer for the kind of rigor that we put
them through, the service in uniform. >> they say an estimated 23 veterans lost their lives because of this. our chairman in the house, jeff miller, says this has got to change. wed into an overhaul. he's got to start the change, demand the overhaul. stop talk being it! >> there are a number of organizations that are calling for the resignation of the guy who runs the v.a. and that's general shenseki. the white house says, he's doing a great job. and there you got him right there. he says he's not going anywhere. so it's this kind of leadership -- he says he wants to get to the bottom of it and i hope he does. but at the same time, it's like is nobody ever being held accountable by this government? >> he might be a great general, but he might not be great at management. he's probably in the wrong job. >> how long does he have to wait for an emergency? >> not long, i'm sure. >> why are our veterans putsing their lives on the line here? >> it's a dozen minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, a chaotic scene got crazier when out of nowhere,
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>> with the perfect movie season right around the corner, how do you make sure you're getsing the best deal for your money? joining me is fox news legal analyst and real estate guru, bob massi. good morning, bob. >> that's an ad that says purchase right there, isn't it? >> that will make us all feel better about the rest. when you're buying a home for the very first time or not, what should be on your brain right there? >> i have to tell you that this is not easy for any of us to do because you're caught up in the emotion of buying, but you literally have to switch your hat as to prospective seller saying the home that i'm buying, as much as i love it, what is the potential resystem value do you know the -- resale value down the road? when you're buying the home, you're excitessed, particularly first-time buyer, it fits everything. but you say to yourself, if you can, okay. i'm going to live here x amount of years, i hope. is it in the right place? will it have good resell value?
will it appreciate? the second thing that happens when you buy home, no matter what anybody owns a home we know, you're never done with the home, ever. >> no. >> are you making modifications that takes away the value of a resale? for example, someone may take their garage and convert it to a workout room. somebody may take part of an attic and put a closet in because their kids are growing up and they don't have enough space. those things that you do to your home when you're in it could take away the marketability of selling a home down the road. just keep that in mind. >> okay. so the mindset of being a seller when you're the buyer is probably really important. so look down the road. what about if the home needs repairs? how do you make sure that you're getsing the money back in the transaction, not left with a bunch of bills once you close? >> this is where a competent real estate broker or real estate attorney, if they're involved in the transaction, because you build contingencies into that offer that you make on that home. for example, if you do your walk-through and you find that
there is this wrong, this wrong, that wrong, this wrong, what do you is you put contingencies saying to the seller, listen, we want these things repaired before the close of escrow. but if they don't get repaired, we will retain a certain amounts of money after the close of escrow and you have 30 days to get it repaired, for example. if you don't repair it, we get to keep that money to fix those things. you got to make sure you get an estimate as to what needs to be fixed as a result of the walk-through so that you find out exactly what your damage could be. writing up this deal, you must think through the deal. you've got to think on the other side of the deal in order to protect yourself. that's why you need proper real estate broker agent that's competent in the area of buying a home. >> okay. then deal chasing, we want to address that briefly before we go 'cause it's important. >> well, i have a saying, a pig swallows and a hog chokes. the bottom line is, i cannot
tell you how many times i've seen good deals go by because people are so greedy, they want o grind everybody down so much that they literally blow the deal. let the next person make a little bit of money on your deal. buy it if you like it, if it's in the right place. don't worry that somebody in four, five, six years may make money. that's okay, too. >> you are the guru there. great advice. you want everybody to write in. we'll see you soon. >> thank you. coming up, mirror, mirror, on the wall, who is the least transparent of them all? wait until you hear who is the best at misleading you. then, are washington politics really as cut throat as "house of cards"? could they be based on true stories? kevin mccarthy put that question straight to kevin spacey and his answer just might surprise you. ♪ ♪
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in the first seven weeks. switching gears, the king of all monster movies is back. >> we are talking about "godzilla." >> because what's really happening is that you're hiding something out there! it is going to send us back to the stone age! >> the most terrifying force of nature returning to the big screen next week, but we're getting an inside scoop this week with fox news contributor and founder of nerdtears.com, kevin mccarthy. >> great to be in studio with you. before i get to that, i have to give you a birthday present. you've never seen "terminator 2". >> birthday month continues. >> how have you never seen that? it will be delivered to your house on saturday. >> wow. this is fantastic.
>> delivered by drone. >> it's a little scarey. >> i've seen the expendables. but go ahead. >> how is "godzilla." >> it opens next friday, i'll have my official review. i am the biggest "breaking bad" fan on the planet. i walk in, he plays heisenberg. check it out. >> it would be mind over matter, right? so he is this massive, takes up a lot of room and massive destruction and very careless, whereas heisenberg is methodical and he will find some little -- he'll find the weakness of
godzilla and exploit it. god. >> ill la versus waltzer white? waltzer white would win. >> i think -- maybe that could be the sequel. maybe he could be walter white, godzilla. i would pay to see that. this summer, only this summer. heisenberg, one man, one monster. >> he played that character on "breaking bad." he won three emmys for that character on the show. >> can you tell we haven't watched that show? >> i thought i watched the beginning of a new buddy movie. are you going to fight crime together? >> i saw him on broadway. he's incredible on broadway. the movie opens up next friday, i'll have the full review for in a next friday morning. >> what about kevin spacey "house of cards"? >> kevin spacey plays frank underwood. he based that clark off richard iii from shakespeare, which is
incredible. >> was he the house minority leader? this show obviously has two seasons. it's available on netflix, incredible show. he plays an incredible character. i wanted to know when you play character like this and visit washington, d.c., does it change the way you view dc? this is what he said. >> i find it amusing that lots of people in washington embraced the character and the series. i find it interesting that they say it's not like this. they say it's cynical and of course it's a fictional version of our esteemed members of congress. it's a little bit disappointing to see that we send people to washington and they don't do their jobs. it's frustrating to see. that's why i think maybe the show has become so successful because for an american audience, it's amazing to watch a congress that gets things done. >> yeah. so he's talking about now that movie in the background with the poster is a documentary about a apply he did playing richard
iii. he traveled around 200 perform ances. that interview is 13 minutes long. i'll tweet out the full version. he said the one movie that he'd like it bring to the stage is "l.a. confidential." >> as long as they don't sing. >> exactly. >> just act. >> and t 2 will be at your house on saturday. you got to send may text and let me know what you think about it. >> someone else will raise my children and i'll watch the movie. >> he'll text and we'll tweet. >> thank you so much. coming up straight ahead, it's already a crime scene, then happens. wait until you hear who was behind the wheel of that car. >> plus, the moment a great white mistakes a boat for a chew toy right here. >> delicious.
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welcome back. the labor department releasing brand-new weekly jobless numbers. nicole petallides live from the floor of the new york stock exchange with those numbers. good morning there. >> good morning. we got in our weekly jobless claims. what we saw was that jobless claims were down 26,000 to 319,000. so that versus the estimates of 325,000 claims. so that's slightly good news, fewer claims is always good news. u.s. stock index futures are pointing to a flat open at the moment, but boy, have we had action on wall street this week. social media, for everybody who loves social media, it's been a momentum group, in some cases
they're flying up 20, and 30 and 40% over the last year. however, this week has been tough. we saw groupon down 24%. twitter down 21%. these are week to date numbers. als linkedin hit a new low. this group has been hit hard. you can put aol in that category as well. >> so twitter tanks. something big on twitter today because it's thursday. they do this #tbt, throwback thursday. here is a picture of me. that is elisabeth. that's brian. now, ladies and gentlemen, for throwback thursday, nicole, there is you and your mom. >> yeah, right! for mother's day, happy mother's day, everybody. my mom, she was born on cyprus. greatest, most wonderful mom in the whole world. >> why are you all dressed up there? where are you going? >> we went to a wedding. he ran for mayor of new york. we were on our way in to the church there for the wedding. by the way, she married
christopher nixon cox, the grandson of president nixon. >> that's right. >> so it was a nice wedding. >> thank you very much for sharing that with us. >> love that pictures. >> thanks, guys. green mountain coffee roaster. that will be a winner today. >> thanks for that. >> we'll brew on that for a while. >> we're enjoy ago cup of coffee. these pictures you guys have been sending in. this is lohry patterson with her sons. both are serving in the u.s. air force. she writes zach is on his way home from the sand box. what a great mother's day gift. >> all grown up. >> tracy says with her mom there in a photo in 1968, newport richie, florida, where my curve lives. >> remember those photos out of the photo booth? it usually came with four different edges? that's just one of them. >> remember that? >> i like that moment.
>> i went to the little lady dance, my daughter chose me. >> the little lady dance? >> that's what they call it. if i have any more pictures of 4ñbacklashing.l start they give you costumes now. will give you costumes to make you look like 1920s. >> what was your era? >> the line was too long. we didn't go up. >> wait. you take your daughter to the little lady dance, she's all excited about wearing a costume and you say, sorry, mondayy, the wait will be too long. are you kidding me? >> let's go to heather nauert. >> you didn't put on a costume? >> the line was wrapped around the place. >> are you kidding? that's the whole event! years ago she'll say i remember. >> normal or nuts? >> heather will talk about those. >> i got some news to bring you. i want to bring a story out of texas. look at this chaos outside a
murder scene in houston when a suspected killer's father plows his car right through a big crowd of people. look at this. boy. you can sure they're as witnesses crime as they try to get out of the way of that car. cops arresting the driver as he attempts to jump out of his car. witnesses say that he snapped after he was taunted by a member of the victim's family. we'll keep you posted if anything new comes of that. remember the pilot who crashed his plane into a house in colorado and then walked away? he used to live in that very same house. 52-year-old brian beach, he was towing a banner from his plane when the plane lost power and then crashed that plane into the home below. he says it wasn't until he crawled out of his plane and then ran around the front of the house that he realized it was the very same house where he
used to live. and these guys are going to need a bigger boat. okay. take a look at that. that is a great white shark as it goes after an inflatable raft. kind of like a chew toy. there were film makers on board that raft. they were shooting off the coast of south africa. obviously the whole thing caught on camera. everyone made it back to land safely. can you imagination how nervous you would be? and then some other incredible video to show you this morning. everybody is talking about this. a family so close to winning $20,000 on the show "family feud," one family member scored 182 points in the final crowned anna sass, another family member, needed 18 points to win. how did she do? look at this. >> you said marriage.
survey said (buzzer). >> yeah. all the zeros down the board and they didn't win. that's what lost it for them. >> they needed 18? >> they blanked on it. >> wow. >> somewhere richard dawson is rolling in his grave. >> brian! >> only a richard dawson kiss would have made them feel better. >> heather, thank you very much. all right, meanwhile, have you seen this video? wind so strong in central kansas, a train right off the tracks. nobody was hurt thankfully. but the storm is now on the move. maria molina is outside with her gust buster umbrella. >> that's right. my gust buster umbrella. we're not expecting strong winds across parts of northeast, but we are dooling with some rain and showers that will linger across this area not just today, but over the next several days. i want to take you farther west. look at some of these currents temperatures across parts of the
plains. still early in the morning and dallas and kansas city, you're in the 70. in chicago, this is your current temperature as we head out the door, 68 degrees. very mild out there. that's a bad sign because that means that as the storm system heads into this area, it will have the fuel to fire up showers and thunderstorms. we do have the potential for severe weather coming up later today across parts of texas, up into wisconsin and minnesota. that area shaded in red right there across iowa, southern parts of minnesota, that's the greatest risk area for potentially violent weather. we could see long-track tornadoes today as the storms fire thumb afternoon and evening and eventually by friday, the storm continues moving eastward and anywhere from arkansas up into indiana, you could be looking at some severe weather. we'll keep track of it. let's head over to you, brian. >> all right. another case of thunder causing a blackout. russell westbrook and kevin durant playing lights out basketball. the pair combining for 63 points in game 1 against the clippers.
but wait, those weren't the only lights going out. during a timeout, just before half time, the power surge. the arena lights dim. so the teams went out and played the final 27 seconds of the half in the dark. later on the lights came on and oklahoma city would win. everyone wants somebody to get a foul ball. what length would you go to to get it? is it worth losing your pants over? one tigers fans almost mooned the entire crowd. he reached over to snatch the ball and leaned a little too far. luckily his friend pulled up his pants. so he was able to get the ball and he was not able to -- there you go. there he goes. he pulled down the underpants and put it back. a good friend. >> it's a low light with the highlights. >> what's the lesson there? maybe no lesson. maybe this is one highlight we don't learn anything from.
>> proper fitting clothing. >> if you have a friend going down, grab them by the underwear and pull them up. >> funny highlight there. a fire at a tennis star james blake's mansion not funny. killing an entire family. police say it was set on purpose. we are live at the scene right now. >> plus, rick springfield, the singing star about to tell us something you've never heard him say before. and it doesn't involve jesse's girl. ♪ ♪
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results. >> wtvt reporter is live in tampa. what are you hearing from the police this morning? >> reporter: detectives are combing through the house right now trying to gather as much evidence as possible. so many different questions in this story that we really don't know the answers to. was this a murder-suicide. was this family killed in cold blood? we don't know the answers, but hopefully we'll get some soon. we do know the fire, it took about seven hours to contain the flames. it was intentionally set. there appears to have been an unknown accelerant fueling the fire. small commercial fireworks were also found throughout this house. two victims suffered upper body trauma. fox 13 learned darren campbell, his wife, kim, and teenage children, coolen and meghan, lived in this house. as you said, the family was renting it from former tennis pro james blake. they've been living there for at least two years. of a will is an exclusive gated community north of tampa.
most of the homes are worth more than a million dollars. the folks in this communities wants to know what's going on and what led to all of this. back to you in new york. >> i think we all do. thank you very much. live from the tampa area. i was watching greta last night and live with greta was -- you've seen a lot. the ticking house. the boat, on lois lerner, is she -- they're voting yes or thumbs up or down when it comes to charging her with contempt of congress for taking the fifth and then making those statements prior to her taking the fifth? the answer was overwhelmingly yes with six democrats also joining the majority of republicans. >> right. 231-187. we have for you now to take a look at those six listed there. barber, patterson, mcentire, rehall and murphy. >> in addition to finding her if cements of congress, also in a separate resolution, they urged the department of justice to
appoint a special prosecutor. that means they've got to go to the u.s. attorney for dc who works for eric holder. what's interesting is remember, eric holder was found in cements of congress as well. but he was able, when he was found in contempt, for withholding fast and furious documents, he said, executive privilege. it's interesting corks lois lerner use that? if she did, it would essentially say there was coordination between the white house and the irs. darrell issa tweeted out, unless president exercise executive privilege, there is no precedents for u.s. attorney to do anything but pursue this criminal case. #irstargeting. so stand by. >> ten minutes to the top of the hour. coming up, you know this song. ♪ you know i wish that i had jesse's girl ♪ ♪ i wish that i had jesse's girl ♪ >> but we promise you, there is something you don't know about rick springfield and he's here next to tell us.
we're going to check in with bill hemmer. >> did you know yesterday was brian's birthday? i read in the blogs! well done. benghazi moves forward today, but will democrats join that investigation? we are about to find out. lois lerner found out her fate, at least her next step. and earth as you've never seen her before. we've got the pictures and they're amazing. ten minutes away when mar this and i see you at the top of the hour
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like that ♪ ♪ . >> he is a triple threat, rick springfield has sold millions of records, starred on the big screen and wrote a best selling autobiography. >> he's adding fiction writer to his accomplishments with his new book called "magnificent vibration." here is rick springfield. good morning to you. >> hello. >> so success with the autobiography, but fiction, what do you like moore and why did you want to write this? >> i started as a kid, i wanted to be a writer first and then music took over. it was the only thing i got good grades for were my essays at school. everything else, terrible grades. so they encouraged me to be a writer. then music took over and the writing went to song writing. i always wanted to get back to it. having the success of the autobiography which i wrote myself -- i was encouraged to write fiction because i don't have to apologize for it afterwards. sorry i'm such a jerk. >> you're writing about something that a lot of people think about and that is
spirituality and god and things like that that you have combined into this new book. >> first of all, it's dark humor. i hate the idea of preaching or anything. >> you're not a theologist. >> it starts with a guy having a conversation with god. he gets a phone number and doesn't believe it's god. >> maybe that's because god doesn't have a phone number. >> he may. 1-800-call god is the phone number in the book. and he called, bobby cotton calls it and his life goes completely south after that because god has an attitude and isn't quite what we imagine. >> sure. >> so you're taking the book and taking yourself and you're going on tour, and answer questions from audience? >> i do a solo tour where we do a q and a and appearing appearit benatar this summer. >> the book is called
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all right. what's going to happen in the after the show show? yesterday it was crazy, thanks a lot. >> it will maybe less crazy. >> tomorrow jennifer esposito will be here and chris wallace. bill: thank you, guys. more on that. rumors swirl. good morning, everybody, fox news alert now. the house is set to vote on making the investigation on benghazi official. the man who will lead the select committee said hillary clinton will testify or else. good morning. we're about to find a lot about this. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to "america's newsroom." martha: good morning, i'm martha maccallum. tensions are reaching a fever pitch on capitol hill on what would be the first select committee to be appointed in a long, long time. democrats are threatening to boycott it. republicans are looking to hillary clinton to provide those answers. here is trey gowdy on whether
he was shotting an intruder. and it is cinco de mayo. the fifth of may celebrating the mexican the mexican army over the french forces in the battle of puebla back in 1862. it's an excuse to drink for louis. you have to drink the whole thing and eat the worm. that is it for way too early. "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ and i'm feeling sorry, believe it or not, for the speaker of the house as well. these days the house republicans actually give john boehner a harder time than they give me. which means orange really is the new black. >> that was one of the really good ones. good morning, everyone. >> speaking of orange, look at that sunrise over new york city. >> monday morning. may 5th. welcome to "morning joe," everybody. >> that's an orange crush right there. >> yes, it is. on the set we have john heilemann. >> good to have you here. >> hello, heilemann. anything going on with you? >> not much. celebrating the nets victory yesterday, baby. game seven. unbelievable. >> we'll talk. visiting professor at nyu, former democratic congressman harold ford jr. >> professor. >> and in washington, senior political editor and white house correspondent for "the huffington post" sam stein. we also have editor for "the washington post" david ignatius. with all going on in ukraine, glad you're in early this morning. >> an eventful weekend. willie, happy belated birthday for you. >> thank you. it was a great saturday. it was a derby/birthday combo. >> how much bourbon did you drink? >> you mean bottles? >> you should have seen the hat he was wearing. >> it was a fascinator. >> you guys in washington, you were at the correspondents -- president was good. >> president was great. >> thought he was funny. >> his performance skills are very high when it comes to these events, i think. has that dry sense of humor. he's got the great second beat on those jokes. >> we'll stay on it. more of the jokes at the white house correspondents dinner. >> we cannot believe what these olympic athletes do. death defying feats. haven't seen someone pull a 180 that fast since rand paul disinvited that nevada rancher from this dinner. as a general rule, things don't
end well if the sentence starts "let me tell you something i know about the negro." just a tip for you. don't start your sentence that way. now that it's 2014, washington is obsessed on the midterms. folks are saying that with my sagging poll in numbers, my fellow democrats don't want me campaigning with them. i don't think that's true although i did notice the other day that sasha needed a speaker at career day and she invited bill clinton. washington seems more dysfunctional than ever. gridlock has gotten so bad in this town, you have to wonder, what'd we do to piss off chris christie so bad? >> that was a good line. >> okay. so that was joel mchale. we'll get to that in a second. he's star of "the community."
did he talk about chris christie? >> he sure did. let's roll it. >> i know it's been a long night, but i promise that tonight will be both amusing and over quickly just like chris christie's presidential bid. i got a lot of these tonight, so buckle up, governor christie. excuse me. extender buckle up. all right. governor, do you want bridge jokes or size jokes? i got a bunch of both. i can go half and half. i know you like a combo platter. now, i get that. i'm sorry for that joke, governor christie. i didn't know i was going to tell it. but i take full responsibility for it. whoever wrote it will be fired. but the buck stops here. so i will be a man and own up to it just as soon as i get to the bottom of how it happened, because i was unaware it happened until just now. i'm appointing a commission of me to investigate the joke i
just told. and if i find any wrong doing on my part, i assure you i will be dealt with. i just looked into it. it turns out i'm not responsible for it. justice has been served. >> okay. joel mchale was adorable, i think, first of all. >> good guy. and by the way, chris christie not only laughing at the jokes at the party, but was laughing after the party. he and mchale were together. people on tv thought it was a cheap shot. chris christie and mary pat were laughing and posed for pictures with him. >> and we kind of had a run in with him. >> you know what? there's a -- we were comparing book notes. willie, as you know, i'm selling a lot of books in new hampshire. and i was selling more. he was commenting on how many books i'm selling in new hampshire. i said i'm selling more books in new hampshire than you will ever sell. >> this went on for a good eight
minutes. >> it's publishing trash talk. >> it is. both of us are men of letters and both of us are taken by how much the good people of new hampshire love to read. >> they love to read. >> are you monitoring the independent book sales at store by store basis. >> duh. of course we are. of course we are. dropped by one in concord this weekend. >> we were waiting to take pictures and this happened. willie, this went on for, like, eight minutes. seriously. >> the book talk? >> the book trash talk. >> wow. >> i changed to samsung. i had new numbers. >> mika runs up to chris christie and tried to explain it. like you can't talk in shorthand like that. so we went up and mika went up and said i'm texting you, why aren't you returning your calls. he said i'm not getting them.
she explained it was the phone. i said mika always thought it was the phone. i said you were a really big skinned jerk and that was probably why. and he laughed. >> so he's good? >> mika had the wrong number. i'm telling you, the drugs, you can't see. even a big screen like this. it's hard to see the big screen. you know? >> just stop. >> she was sending texts to chris cross instead of chris christie. >> can i get their number by the way? >> sure. >> more of those photos can be seen at vanity fair portraits. >> there's our son. >> who's that? >> that's ronan. >> our handsy son. he's a naughty child. and there was a -- eric holder has decided that you're going to run for office and he's going to take your job. so we did -- >> oh, yeah. he said why don't we do a freaky friday switch.
here he is. he wants it to be morning eric and he and mika were trying out for that cable news. you know, he's the former attorney general, she's a former whatever you are former. >> whatever. thanks, guys. >> then morning eric. what do you think? that would be a great poster. >> i'd watch that show. >> of course you'd watch that show. >> title it with holder somehow. >> she suggested morning ric. take the e off. >> i don't know. vanity fair party was fun. the correspondents dinner was, i think, a success. i guess. >> let's move on. i'm bored. >> okay. for the reason now that we have such an elegant panel, we're go i think to start with ukraine where violence is spreading deeper with clashes now erupting in that country's third largest city. hundreds of pro-russian militants stormed police headquarters on sunday demanding that fellow separatists be
released. the men smashed open the door of the police station and broke windows and security cameras. five dozen militants were freed with little resistance from police. the men were being held in connection to deadly reactions on friday which left many dead. it was the worst violence in that country since february. the u.s. ambassador to ukraine is now demanding an investigation into the increasing violence and if moscow is behind it. meanwhile, michael mcfaul, the former u.s. ambassador to russia is warning that russia could be in the final stages of preparing for a full scale invasion. >> david ignatius, the ukrainian government says it's protecting its own citizens from pro-russia militias. now we hear russia saying they have to protect russian-speaking people from the government. what are we seeing this morning? >> we're seeing the inability of
any government to maintain safety and security in ukraine. which means that the violence is getting worse and the calls for some kind of intervention are growing. the obama administration's biggest hope is that somehow if ukraine can stumble through to elections on may 25 when there'll be a new government and a sense the administration hopes of legitimacy for a government that could crack down, restore orders, defend its borders, et cetera. and the terrible irony of the russians demanding safety for these poor protesters in eastern ukraine. many think the russians have been encouraging the protesters to grab the airport, a television tower. now they're demanding someone maybe even the russians come in and restore order. it's been increasingly chaotic demonstration. it's shows the weakness of the ukrainian government. above all, it illustrates the
russians' basic comfort level with this chaotic ukraine on the way to elections on may 25th. >> okay. i'm going to grab a thought that i read recently about the situation in ukraine. especially as it pertains to american leadership. because some can put this as black and white, america is not strong. the president is not strong enough. but i read recently that it's sort of like getting in a fight when you're trying to get a divorce. it's not that easy. because you want to make your point without hurting the whole situation, the whole family. >> how the united states should use its enormous power to deter vladimir putin from invading eastern ukraine just as he invaded crimea a month ago is the question that's really haunting washington. we had a map in "the washington post" over the weekend that showed the battle lines for a war between russia and ukraine. i haven't seen anything like that since history books, you
know, after the fall of berlin in 1945. it's just stunning to see that. the administration keeps saying when you push them that its policy is to make it so costly for putin to keep pushing in ukraine, that he'll think twice. he'll stop. >> of course as you know, the ruble and the russian stock market have gone up since we've -- >> things are beginning to -- >> no, since we put the sanctions in place. these sanctions are so insignificant that they're not going to deter somebody like putin, are they? >> you know, joe, the recovery in the russian currency and markets is after a significant fall. so in absolute terms, it's not a great period for russia. i think it is fair to say that obama has been holding in reserve partly because europe is not comfortable yet with heavy duty sanctions. the kind of sanctions that would hit the export industries,
principally energy and weapons. if the russians move, if their tanks roll across the frontier in ukraine, i would guess president obama would have merkel with him in imposing sanctions that would make things hurt for russia. but by that time it's too late. the tanks were already in. so no question that obama's taken a go-slow approach to this. >> all right. some political news now. new indicators show rough waters ahead for the democrats in the midterms. a pugh research/usa today poll shows republicans have their biggest advantage in two decades. numbs shows voters shifting away from democrats over the last six months. a majority of voters say the president isn't a factor in their vote, but the number of democrats voting in support of the president's record has fallen 16 points since the 2010 elections. the number of republicans voting
against his agenda has increased. still when compared to this point when george w. bush was president, the president's approval is nine points higher. voters have showed a deep desire for change during both presidents' second term saying it's time for different policies. >> john heilemann, we have a flurry of polls. willie and i were talking about this last week, two weeks ago. democrats looking better this past week. republicans looking better. now this pew poll suggests big trouble. also on the "usa today," health spending. this is going to drive the first half of the week as far as the debate goes. health spending up the fastest in 34 years. and in the lead, the "usa today" blames obamacare. >> look. we saw three polls last week, right? we started early last week with
the abc/"washington post" poll. then the other poll that seemed kipt. and now this poll. we've had three in a row now from big organizations with big sample sizes who have good records that suggest that maybe what happened with the obamacare 8 million number was more of a blip and that we're actually settling into what i think a lot of people thought the prevailing trend lines would be which is republicans are in a strong position in the midterms and obamacare is going to be by no means a winning -- on the macro level, not a winning issue for democrats. they'll have to be fighting for their lives in general and on that issue going forward. >> harold, it's only may as you and i know more happens in campaigns in six days than let alone six days. but you look atted t the headli. biggest advantage for republicans in two decades. what did democrats do six months
out? >> another headline talks about the violence in ukraine. i think there's a sense if you have an everyday hard-working american and you are struggling and working to support their family and you read the political headlines and trends out of washington, just don't bode well for the party in charge. second, you consider the states where you have these elections. states that romney performed well in. states where the health care plan and some of the other things a president is doing or has done is less popular than they are in other states. and finally, i think you showed the numbers between george w. bush and the president in terms of the approval ratings. remember in 2006, democrats cleaned up. if you're democrats, even though it's only may, you have to begin to think now how do you shift a bit on things that would help you? >> we're starting to see keystone, harry reid trying to help. >> help some democrats around.
>> helps us as home on manufacturing. helps foreign policy. but you know, willie, it's -- you're starting to see harry reid and you're starting to see other democrats talk about keystone. this energy issue is going to be a big issue because it's about jobs. for once it's not the republicans the base that's pulling them away from where middle america is. democrats have a lot of challenges. >> they do. maybe harry reid's talking about it, but there's still a lot of democrats who are not going to move on the keystone pipe line. maybe there's some deal to use it as a chip for something else. >> the president could just do that. >> that's right. sam, you're looking at these numbers. the piece in the "usa today" says these numbers show the strongest tilt towards republicans in the last couple decades. including stronger than before 2010. republican strategists if you talk to them privately, they're
feeling good about this obviously about holding the house but taking the senate as well. >> yeah. i mean, i've said it before and i'll say it again. the best thing the democrats have going for them right now is they had a huge wave loss in 2010. there's fewer seats for them to lose in the house than they would otherwise. the house is a problem when you have so many seats in states that went to romney that holding the majority seems tenuous. that said, looking at national polls is silly. each individual race has its own dynamic. for example, in arkansas where you would imagine is democrat would be really suffering under the burdens of the health care law, a poor economy, sagging approval numbers, mark potter is not that poorly positioned. you do have to look to respect to the senate state by state. one thing i'd add with health care spending which is a scary headline is that the charts early on when they were on
kbbcare suggested a very spike in 2014 because millions more people were going to get coverage and spend on health care at the time. we have to wait and see what happens after this spike to see if they continue going down which they were before. it could just be tied to the bad economy. but if the recent trends continue and we have more health care spending, then we're in real trouble basically. >> all right. we're going to keep talking about this. obviously more on ukraine and foreign policy straight ahead with david ignatius. >> oh, yeah. coming up in the 7:00 hour, chuck schumer is here on set. he brought with him an interesting chart on the big fight over raising the minimum wage. >> i'm going to debate him on that chart, the minimum wage, and ask if he would trade keystone for a rise in minimum wage. help workers on both sides of that equation. i'll see if he loves the working man as much as i do. >> i want to see if his chart is more interesting than rattner's. i don't think if that's possible.
also a new investigation into the benghazi attacks. >> i'm also going to ask him what happened in ireland when jerry adams was arrested. a strange move considering where the peace talks have been going. >> then live in our 8:00 hour, senator joe manchin is here in the studio and senator tim kaine on his backing for hillary 2016. >> willie and i was -- what did we say this was? >> yeah. >> full throated. yes. >> okay. all right. >> thank you for being there with me, willie. up next, a tragic circus accident leaves a group of performers in critical condition. also ben affleck caught counting cards in las vegas? we'll explain it on morning papers. and jim gaffigan joins us on set. >> i don't know if you can tell by my beard, but i'm fat. i don't know what happened.
all i did was eat constantly and then boom i'm fat. seems unfair. >> but first if it was only that simple, here's bill kairns with a check on the forecast. >> good stuff, you guys. we got done with a pretty nice weekend on the eastern seaboard. rain showers in new england yesterday. the heat was the real story, though. everywhere in the red on this map shows you where it was 80 degrees yesterday from d.c. all through the deep south. but the one highlight was the central plains. it was 102 in wichita, kansas. they were off to the driest start to the year ever since the dust bowl in the mid-'30s. with the windy conditions -- this was in oklahoma yesterday. they had me vacuations. a couple structures burned down. you could see one of them there. the way the wind was blowing those flames. another dangerous day in the plains today.
what's cruel about the central u.s., even though it was 100 there, it was snowing in northern wisconsin. still very chilly weather remains through the great lakes. there's still some ice on the great lakes from the winter. i think it was 20% ice still left. so chilly today. chicago only a 56 for your high. but we're warm with with a brush fire threat in the middle of the country. we're looking nice in new england. maybe a stray shower or two in maine. but the rest of the region is looking very nice. a perfect spring day for you. and the next five days, the only really big storm we're going to have should bring rain to the northern plains. weld like to get some of this rain in texas and arkansas. that doesn't occur until about thursday. nice week ahead for much of the country. i don't think any tornado threats at all. which is great especially after what we dealt with last week. washington, d.c. was the big scene for the correspondents dinner. here's one more humorous joke. >> the vice president isn't here tonight not for security
reasons. he just thought this event was being held at the dulles airport applebees. yes. right now he's elbow deep in jalapeno poppers and talking to a construction cone he thinks is john boehner. also true. ♪
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>> oh, my god. >> the eight injured acrobats are all out of surgery. one performer is still in critical condition with internal bleeding. others recovering with broken bones. this morning's performance canceled. >> that was absolutely horrific. oh, my gosh. the oklahoman, firefighters in guthrie, oklahoma, are battling a massive wildfire that's killed one and destroyed six homes. the fire began yesterday afternoon after a controlled burn got out of hands. strong winds and dry weather fuel it this morning. nearly 3,000 acres burned so far. >> the star ledge ebb. condoleezza rice will not give the commencement appearance at rutgers after protests. calling for the university to disinvite rice. >> how stupid on these students.
>> students are upset about her support of the war in iraq. she was set to receive $35,000 for the appearance. >> that is absolute insanity. here you have the first african-american female woman to be secretary of state in the united states of america. what a wonderful example not only could she set for these students, but she has been setting at stanford. one of the greatest colleges in the world where she's been provost and head of student affairs. i mean, serious -- i'm sorry. where is the rutgers community standing up for academic freedom? i would urge her -- i would bend over backwards. you talk about political correctness run amok, this is absolute insanity. >> yeah. and universities are supposed to be the place where ideas are exchanged, where your mind is open to all points of view. what a disgrace actually. >> agree with me 100% of the
time or you're not allowed to come to an institution that's supposed to be about higher learning. and the frequee market place of ideas. do you know how many speakers students had to listen to at their universities? how many times they had to sit and have their views and their values mocked and ridiculed? you know what they did? they sat in those seats. because they don't get the kind of treatment. i cannot believe -- rutgers needs to bend over backwards to get there. >> they ought to review that. the san francisco chronicle, for the first time in more than two weeks, court is back in session for former olympian oscar pistorius. the first person to arrive at his home the night of reeva steenkamp's death, he described a very emotional scene. >> it's not something i would like to experience again, my lady.
it was a young man walking down the stairs with a lady, with a young woman in his arms. and the scene you see, the expression of sorrow, the expression of pain. >> pistorius claims he mistook steenkamp for an intruder. >> seriously, how long is this trial going to go on? let me help you. the guy's guilty. "new york times," a new study suggests the secret to reversing aging may lie in the blood of the young. research from harvard and stanford university found the blood of young mice rejuvenated the brain's muscles of older mice. also found drastic improvement to every tissue in tnthe bodiesf older mice.
>> ben affleck found himself in hot water at the hard rock last week accused of counting cards. he was approached by security for being too good at blackjack and was asked to leave the premises. quote, he is not banned from our property and is welcome back any time. >> good to know. >> unlike willie. >> no. willie's too good. >> just to reiterate, counting cards not illegal. just frowned upon. >> i don't understand what it is. >> with us now on the set in the flesh, white house correspondent for politico, mike allen. mike, good morning. >> happy cinco de monday. >> holy cow. >> you've got to piece on michael hirsch. the hillary industrial complex. we know what it is basically. but take us inside what this looks like.
if the runs for president, what heat will she feel about benghazi? >> this is a piece by michael hirsch who's the national editor of politico magazine. he pointed out that benghazi is becoming to this decade what vince foster, white waterwere in the '90s. from mentions of hillary in twitter recent days. 219,000 mentions of benghazi. he calls it the social media twin. this is something that fires up the republican base, but even though the white house hates this topic, democrats in general like it because it helps reinforce their views of the republican base as right wing nuts. >> if you're hillary clinton or if you're running hillary clinton's campaign, should there be a campaign, are you generally concerned in a general election about the idea of benghazi? or is that sort of confined to a republican primary? >> of course you are. the question is whether it's about competition of ideology.
at the moment because republicans perhaps overplaying their hand as they seem all too ready to do calling for appointing special committee, more subpoenas. but if it becomes a question about secretary clinton's competence especially at a time when the world events we're talking about at the top of the show, we have not a lot of accomplishments to talk about, then it's a problem. >> harold ford, would you be worried about it? >> the question i have is you've seen polling. where do the american people rank this in terms of -- >> low. and the story points out it's unlikely to hurt her with the voters. it's how she ramps up this campaign. so when she goes out with her book tour starting in june, she wants to be talking about her vision for the future. she wants to talk, remind people of why they used to like the clintons. this at this moment is this big
topic that no interviewer can fail to ask about and it's all about the past. that's not what you want. >> people will believe that hillary clinton is not a patriot, doesn't care deeply about the country, doesn't care deeply about our assets around the globe. and if the purpose is trying to suggest that, i think it's going to fall on deafer ears than some would think. >> i think that'd be the case. before we go, nobody's more plugged into washington than you are. what was the review of the white house correspondents dinner over the weekend? >> people thought the president was much tougher on himself than he's been in the past. his great line, sasha needed a speaker for career day, she chose bill clinton. that perfectly captured it in the weekend. >> mike allen with a look inside the play book. thank you. coming up next on "morning joe," a group of marines let it go while watching disney's
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♪ all right. let's do some sports. a couple of game seven playoff matchups in the nba. there were three of them on saturday. >> only one matters. >> two yesterday. let's start with the raptors hosting the nets. by the way, how great are the fans in toronto? going crazy. full force. packing even outside. nets try to inbound with the one-point lead. the pass knocked away. what a play right here. throws the ball off the nets player and goes out of bounds. they get the ball back now with a chance to win the game. >> here is lowrie on the deck. puts it up. it's blocked by pierce! and the nets win the series! >> paul pierce with the monster block. the old man getting it done. john heilemann is a huge nets fan. the old guys getting it done. they win game seven on the road. they move on to play the heat. great win. >> great win. double double for kevin garnett.
his best game of the season. paul pierce right there, the truth, showing why he can still get it done. you know, it's great for this next series. because toronto has a terrible time with miami. brooklyn beat miami four times this year. >> swept them. >> did they really? >> yeah. >> miami is the obvious favorite, but brooklyn has figured out miami at least during the regular season. >> san antonio also won game seven of its series against the mavs. now they move on to face the blazers. tonight the wizards host the pacer. and the clippers go to oklahoma city to play the thunder. >> harold, who do you like? >> the wizards look good. pacers look shaky. i like the nets. the nets push it to seven. if garnett and pierce don't have to over-play early in the series, they're the only team that can beat the heat. >> they're a good team. as are the raptors. the raptors will be a power in the east over the next few years. >> let's go to the ice. round two of the stanley cup playoffs yesterday. >> out to center. in a two on one. moving in. scores! >> letang on the side. to james neil. neil, rebound. goal! >> so the penguins win theirs 3-0. they even up with the rangers. the rangers stole game one on the road. and the ducks looking to even things up with the kings. >> rangers have a shot. >> yeah. they're 1-1 coming back to the garden. they've got a good shot. >> you saw the blackhawks winning their game up 2-o on the wild. >> a lot of crazy ranger fans. in a good way. >> hockey fans are intense. let's go to baseball now. some of the top plays out of the big leagues yesterday. >> first pitch swinging, slow roller. not in time. padres win! >> down the line. on his way to third. picked up by davis. they're going to wave him around. reds win! >> to right. it's well hit. at the wall. ball game! >> there's a shot. back into center. got some carry. ellsbury will go to the wall. off the wall bounding off ellsbury. rolling towards right center. jennings scores. longoria scores. they're going to wave will meyers. it's an inside-the-park home run. >> that's just embarrassing. >> especially for els burr are i. a guy you've got to root for -- actually, i'm rooting against him this season. >> the yankees are in first place by a half game. derek jeter welcomed a special guest to the stadium. peyton manning.
two of the all-time greats hanging out. yankees don't play the rockies this season so manning came to the bronx to pay respect to jeter in his final season. peyton watched that up in the box with eli. still ahead at the top of our 7:00 hour, peter king of new york says democrats would be, quote, terribly arrogant if they block another investigation into the benghazi attacks. then joe manchin on set on the fight to increase the minimum wage. but up next mika's must read opinion pages. we'll be right back with more "morning joe." ♪ ♪
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"the new york times" editorial board writes president obama and the world two years after winning an election in which foreign policy was barely mentioned, president obama is being pummelled at home and abroad for his international leadership. the world sometimes seems it is flying apart with mr. obama unable to fix it. through a combination of a few significant missteps, circumstances beyond his control, unreasonable expectations, and his bland demeanor, he doesn't walk around with his shirt off? i don't get it. in key respects mr. obama is precisely the foreign policy president that most americans and allies overseas wanted. he rejected the shoot first tendencies of president bush. but he has been blamed for his own foreign policy taken as a whole and stripped as much as
possible of ideological blinkers. mr. obama's record is not as bad as his critics say. it's just not good enough. so is it just a set of examples that are beyond his control? >> that editorial is fascinating because it has all the different instances in which obama has struggled to get a lot of success. i think most people would agree with him avoiding use of force in these battle grounds of the middle east. it makes sense. not overreacting to ukraine makes sense. yet when you add it up, there is something missing. my own answer would be there are two things. the first is communicating to the american people and the world. this president doesn't do that as much as he needs to on foreign policy. second is credibility. people ask well, he doesn't
fight this war or that war. what war would he fight? where would he draw the lines and mean it? i think the president is going to have to make clearer to the world precisely what he's prepared to do in an increasingly messy and dangerous situation especially in ukraine. >> sam stein, building on the comment david just made, do you think what's lacking in the president's foreign policy is some overarching aim or goal that seems to not define or give policy makers a sense of not only where we would fight but what our goals are around the globe? >> to piggyback on what david said and i'm curious what the panel would say. i read "the new york times" editorial and stepped back and asked myself, what would you say if someone asked what was the obama doctrine? you couldn't answer that question. with respect to george w. bush you knew what his broader foreign policy is. i couldn't decide whether defenders would say his prudence, i would guess. critics say overly cautiousness.
i'm curious what people think. there doesn't seem to be at this juncture and we're six years in, a definitive obama doctrine with respect to foreign policy. i couldn't pinpoint one myself. >> i'm not sure that's a bad thing. >> it might not be. i don't know. >> sam, i will tell you, you've asked the question here. stricken of the ideological binders and just talk to the ambassadors across the world, the foreign leaders across the world, and david ignatius has heard this more than any of us. if i'm wrong, let me know. that is the critique of the obama administration. that there's no over-arching policy. there's no vision. it is ad hoc in its approach. and again, this is not an ideological take. we have been hearing this from foreign policy leaders for four or five years. >> joe, i travel all over the world and i do hear that. there's a perception that this president is weak. problem is when you're perceived as weak, you're expected to do
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people are asking, will donald trump run again? and the answer is, does that thing on his head crap in the woods? i actually don't know. i don't know if that thing on his head has a digestive wbr id "wbr37380" system. welcome back to "morning joe." joining us on set. the senior senator from new york, democratic senator chuck schumer. and from washington, nbc news white house correspondent and host of "the daily rundown," chuck todd. chuck and chuck. we're going to talk about your chart and the minimum wage in just a moment. that was a good dinner. it was a great dinner. i enjoyed it. president was good. and mchale was good. mchale was adorable. here are some of the highlights from the responsibilities /b
dinner. >> olympic snow boarding medalist is here. we cannot believe what they do. death defying feats. haven't seen someone pull a 180 that fast since rand paul disinvited that nevada rancher from this dinner. as a general rule, things don't end well if the sentence started, "let me tell you something i know about the negro." just a tip for you. don't start your sentence that way. now that it's 2014, washington is obsessed on the midterms. folks are saying that with my sagging poll numbers, my fellow democrats don't really want me campaigning with them. and i don't think that's true, although i did notice the other day that sasha needed a speaker at career day and she invited bill clinton. >> mr. president, you have to
admit, and you already have, the launch of healthcare.gov was a disaster. it was so bad. it was bad. look, i don't even have an analogy because the website is now the thing people use to describe other bad things. they say stuff like, i shouldn't have eaten that sushi. i was up all night healthcare.gov'ing. boy, that latest johnny depp movie really healthcare.gov'd at the box office. look at my new rug. did the dogs healthcare.gov on it? you can't get that out of shag. >> that was funny. he was really good. >> yeah. it was a good night. >> so we've got a lot to talk about. >> we do. why don't we start quickly, though, a couple quick things. minimum wage. harold and i were talking about it before. joe manchin is coming on. how about a deal on minimum wage
where we help workers where you raise the minimum wage not to the $10.10 because democrats aren't going to get that. but maybe to $8.50, $9.00 in exchange for keystone. >> i think that's part of our bill on energy efficiency next week. we're willing to see a vote on keystone. each side thinks they're going to win. keystone is a lot less important than it used to be. since it started there's a ton of oil and gas here in the u.s. we used to say if it's not from canada, it's in the middle east. now we're talking about exporting it. >> let's not move the goal posts. keystone's still important, isn't it? >> it's a job issue and a safety issue. we're going to transport it by rail or water. natural gas exports, why not increase that as well? >> 9,000 -- last month 288,000 jobs. keystone, 9,000 jobs. it is not the issue that each
sides is making it to be. so minimum wage -- on minimum wage, why is $10.10 important to us? >> i want to go back to keystone for a second. >> okay. go ahead. >> pennsylvania is creating jobs across the state in pennsylvania that's not being created across new york state because this governor, the state legislature are over-regulating fracking. why don't we bring good jobs to upstate new york? they need good jobs. you're their senator. >> yes. >> what do you say to albany to get those good jobs in pennsylvania in upstate new york? >> well, i haven't stepped on the governor's issue on this one. he's being very careful because there are environmental concerns. but overall -- >> shouldn't he be a little less careful? >> overall democrats throughout the country has supported fracking. most of us have and it's worked well. >> would you like to see it in upstate new york? >> if it's done carefully. the governor feels it's going to
be done carefully, i sure would. you would? wow. well, you are just like -- good. we need it. do you think there has to be a deal on minimum wage where you split the baby, the republicans get something they want. democrats get something they want. now here's something we can use for a visual. like rattner on this show. that's pretty good. that's attractive. here's the minimum wage chart. we created 288,000 new jobs. jobs are going up. private sector jobs. but wages are going down. they're paying so much less there's less money in the average middle class person's pocket. there's a good argument for minimum wage. since the early 1970s, they've been going down. wbr id "wbr40780" look, i hear you. /b so that's why $10.10 is important for one reason. and important to us. which is it's the bare minimum, you work 40 hours a week and you get out of poverty. why we push it, you should have wbr-id "wbr40925" a fair shot of getting out of poverty if you work 40 hours a week. can you negotiate on the length of time on seasonal workers on other things? yes. and we've told our republican colleagues we would negotiate. but i'll make a prediction here. just like unemployment insurance, they know they're on the wrong side here. we'll get a deal on minimum wage within the next six months. i don't disagree with you. we should index it to inflation. but there has to be a deal. president clinton gave a big speech where he talked about how he was criticized for cutting the capital gains tax. he got 6 million children health insurance. he got 9 million people moved out of poverty. the only question joe's asking is how do we cut a deal? you can have that conversation offline. but natural gas exports will help overseas, create jobs at
home, and a larger stockpile of energy. there has to be some give and take there. >> we'll get a deal on minimum wage. there will be some kind of compromise. there are lots of different areas of compromise. and it'll happen. it's just that $10.10 is a pretty strong feeling on our side because it's the bare minimum out of poverty. if minimum wage back in 1960s with inflation would be $10.71 right now. >> senator, we had your colleague tom coburn on last week. he said there shouldn't be a federal minimum wage. the free market ought to take care of it. what do you think of those who oppose minimum wage, that it leads to the loss of jobs? >> economists are on both sides of that. i think what they don't do, those who say it will lose jobs, forget about all the money that would be pumped into the economy. >> i know. >> that creates. and they don't believe in that because that's dynamic scoring
on our side. i want to bring up one thing, our next fair shot agenda item. this week elizabeth warren will introduce legislation on making it easier to pay for college. two parts. first, you should be able to refinance. in other words, there are tens of millions of young people and their families who are paying on hundreds of thousands of loans. you should be able to get it down to 3%. we're going to push that. by the way, this is one of the biggest things hurting the market. i totally agree. let's have elisabeth on this week as well. we're pushing this middle class agenda. i agree. let me ask you about the midterm elections. new indicators show wbr-id "wbr42520" rough waters ahead for democrats. front page in the usa today, take us through that. the poll says republicans
have their biggest advantage in two decades. numbers show voters shifting away from supporting democrats over the last six months. a majority of voters say the president isn't a factor in their vote. but the number of democrats voting in support of the president's record has fallen 16 points since the 2010 elections. the number of republicans voting against his agenda has increased still. when compared to this point and george w. bush's presidency, the president's approval is nine points higher. voters have showed a deep desire for change during both presidents' second term. >> chuck todd, look at the usa today, not good news. not good news about the polls showing democrats not in good shape right now. that changes every week and a half. but look up top. i think you're going to see republicans holding this headline all day. health care spending up the most since 1980. of course it's only the first
quarter, but we're going to be having this debate over the next six months as well. what do you make of these polls? the nbc news poll, the abc news poll. it does look like democrats have some tough sledding ahead over the next few months? >> it's may. the best number they have to tout is the one that happened on friday. right? it's that jobs number. you know, the one unknown here is, you know, we've been told for three years that if there were some form of government certainty, then private sector in the economy would start to take off. we'd start to see some consistent moves. they got their budget deal in december. so we have a -- we have sort of two years of certainty. there are no major things that are sort of up in the air between the two parties right now between congress and the president. there's no giant standoff. if -- you know, the what if there is three or four straight months of what we saw on friday
where you have nearly 250,000 to 300,000 jobs created over that period? does that change the mind-set? to me it's about the only thing that could change the dynamic. because it does feel like we're not yet in concrete, but it's certainly a very heavy mix. it's drying quickly. that is of concern to democrats. the only thing that could change this dynamic, i think, is sort of this -- an economy that starts taking off that the public believes is taking off. >> sam stein, the sub-head on this top story, more americans visiting hospitals under obamacare. but last hour, though, you dug into the numbers. what do you find? >> well, this is sort of what was predicted when they were gaming out how the affordable care act would play out. which is as soon as you had a couple million people getting insurance for the first time, they would see doctors, they would go to hospitals. health care spending would spike. now, prior to this, health care
spending had been on decline. the question was was that because of obamacare or because of a sagging economy? i think we need to look ahead. i mean, the next couple months will be a big indication of whether or not health care spending is out of control. for the senator, i'm kind of curious along these lines. where is obamacare politically at this juncture? it's hard wbr id "wbr44670" to tell on the polls whether democrats have gained anything from those enrolled? how will it play in november? two things. i think the negatives will be somewhat lower. the positives will be somewhat higher. i'm not sure it will be in that positive. but i do think it will be less bad. i do think this and this is what all the polls show. joe's question is right. the good thing in the polls and that's why we're focusing on the /b
agenda. whether it's middle class wanls, whether it's getting the economy going, whether it's health care, anything like that. so when we talk about substantive issues, we win. and that's -- we're trying to get the agenda back. i think by november the kind of issues we're talking about, college affordability, equal pay, minimum wage, jobs going overseas. will predominate over obamacare. they fired their shot a little too soon. >> all right. >> willie? >> do you think if you look at obamacare more broadly as sam stein pointed out in the last hour, it's difficult to talk about national polls because each state is different this time around. but if you talk to republicans they feel there's a wind at their back. how do you feel about the senate? >> i feel we're going to keep the senate. >> you do? >> yeah. you look at the four key races. alaska, arkansas, louisiana, north carolina where we have incumbents in red states. they're ahead in each one. even kay hagen is ahead by two, but she's had $12 million of
unanswered commercials against her. and she hasn't even begun to put on her positives or go after her opponent whoever it's going to be negatives. so i think if you look -- this is how it always is. nationally it looks better for republicans right now. mainly because middle class incomes are declining. what we talked about here. and the public is sour. >> all right. >> but state by state looks much better for us. we will keep the senate. >> texas governor rick perry -- i want you to stay for this one -- has been mentioned among potential 2016 contenders. >> good luck. >> is being candid about -- my god. senator schumer. >> last time i checked, he's not on any rolls in republican primaries. rick perry is just fine. he talked about his disappointing bid for 2012. but he also suggested the door is far from closed for a political comeback. >> you ran in 2012. a lot of people thought that was a botched effort on your part. how do you get a second look now? >> i would tend to agree with them on the botched effort side of it. >> what went wrong? >> listen, i think america is a place that believes in second chances. i think that we see more character out of an individual by how do you perform after you fail and you go forward. >> in kentucky, multiple horse races converged at churchill downs. mitch mcconnell tweeted this photo inside the track. but it was senator rand paul who drew the most attention hosting media mogul rupert murdoch around the luxury boxes. murdoch, no no vis when it comes to the matters of political imagery, allowed himself to be paraded around for six hours like a prized horse behind a proud jockey. amounted to a message to more establishment republicans that as he put it, i'm very open minded. >> chuck todd, if you follow rupert murdoch's history in endorsing candidates, anything is possible including a possible endorsement of rand paul or hillary clinton. i think much more likely to endorse hillary clinton than any republican senator out there right now. but let's talk about the first thing. i've got to say, again, we absolutely pounded rick perry around this table in 2012 for good reason. he wasn't ready to run. he had some back problems, on medication for that. i know about that better than anybody else as far as what back pain does to you. this guy's looking pretty good in the early stages. are you a skeptic? >> you know, i know we're supposed to be skeptical of him because of it was such a poor effort. there's a part of me saying where's he going to raise the money this time? it's going to be harder for him to convince the major donors. that guy who showed up to "meet the press" yesterday, he's very comfortable in his own skin.
there's something about when a candidate loses and accepts responsibility for the loss, it's amazing they can turn around. look. we have a history of our presidents having been humbled by an embarrassing loss. barack obama got thumped in a campaign for congress. bill clinton lost a re-election campaign for governor that was probably the most campaign he ever ran. losing made him a better candidate. george w. bush lost his first race for congress. you know, losing can do that, can humble you in a way. i have to say i thought rick perry seemed like a happy warrior to me. you could see him just sort of being this sort of tortoise kind of candidate. >> do not write him off. 1988, bill clinton actually booed at the democratic convention. four years later he was their saving grace. he was so bad that he actually went on "the tonight show". >> johnny carson thing turned
over the timer thing. >> he was a punchline. and senator schumer, you know this. politics, things can change. you know rupert murdoch, he's from new york, you're from new york. >> yep. >> spent a lot of time with him. he could endorse a republican. he could endorse a democrat. i think it's all safe for us to say around this table here he's not going to endorse rand paul. >> he's a neocon. rand paul is the opposite. i don't think he'd bring himself to trust rand paul's instincts. but to go there, that was a smart political move for both of them. i admire that. one thing on the republican nominee in perry. he may be the comeback kid. here's the problem. the republican party needs to be somewhere in the middle. romney was sort of perry-like. but unless you move a little bit to the middle in the general election, you lose the only two candidates who have pushed the tea party off. christie, jeb bush. i don't think another candidate's going to come close
to -- >> mitt romney is a creature of the middle and he lost. >> he wasn't. >> john mccain was a creature of the middle and he lost. bob dole was, he lost. >> different america. it is. >> no, senator. >> yes. >> we are one america. >> hey, joe. hey, joe. could you imagine the chuck schumer ads that are going to get run against them? he just endorsed chris christie. >> no. they can push off the tea party. that's true. >> note to self. always book chuck schumer after the white house correspondents dinner because he is loopy and possibly inebriated. >> any republican candidate that pushes off the tea party will not only lose the primary. even if they pass the primary -- you need both sides. >> that's why we're going to win. you can't push off the tea party
and win the general. senator, you know what? you're fighting the last war. okay. we'll see. we will see. pinky bet. oh, my god. okay. senator chuck schumer, thank you. chuck todd, thank you as well. we'll watch you on "the daily rundown" wbr-id "wbr49390" on msnbc this morning. ahead in our 8:00 hour, senator joe manchin and senator tim kaine. and army veteran wes moore with a special look at vets overcoming extreme obstacles when they return from serving abroad. plus democrats say republicans are just playing politics by harping on benghazi. our next guest says they're just afraid to confront the truth. republican congressman peter king standing by. and then louis takes us behind the scenes for a look at the white house correspondents dinner. his look. and it's awkward and weird and all over the place. louis, i'm sure zbln lots of
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adams. he's the one person who kept his word throughout this entire process. and he brought about peace at tremendous risk to himself. now, he was saying there's no evidence against him. the only alleged evidence i'm aware of is there's two people both of whom broke with adams because they were opposed to the peace process. and they were determined to get gerry adams. they made this on tape to boston college. they're both dead now. these are the hardliners who hated adams. >> they hated adams because he was forcing peace on the ira. >> exactly. >> that's what was so surprising to me. this is a guy who every day walks around with a target on his back because he dared to make peace in northern ireland. and he dared to move away from the violence of that conflict. a guy that walks around and is
literally risking his life for peace in ireland is a guy now being arrested by irish authorities. i don't get it. >> it makes no sense at all. he was a person that was shot in 1984, he was almost killed. now he's being targeted by the ira by elements of the ira who are opposed to the peace process with the british. so he has put himself at risk. i think what part of this is is it's going to win big in the elections coming up in two weeks. i think there are elements in the blish security apparatus who don't want to see adams achieve these victories and they have not gotten other what happened 40, 50 years ago when there was so much on all sides. just last week the british government said it would not
announce the massacre of 11 catholics in belfast was carried out by british paratrooper unit in the '70s. i agree, by the way. i think they should end the investigations and go forward. >> there are horrors on both sides. we are in a time of peace. it's so irony just last week a close friend of our family who is from northern ireland and very supportive of the catholic position was actually grumbling about that sinn fein and gerry adams went too far. i said who would you vote for if not him? he said i'm going to vote for sinn fein because we have to move forward. then he's arrested takes us back to 1972. i just don't get pit. >> i want to turn now to benghazi. house speaker john boehner is forming a select committee to
focus on the issue. he says the white house misled the american people by withholding documents related directly to the attack. democrats are indicating they actually might boycott the whole thing. >> i do not know why at all any democrat would want to participate in this by boycotting it it just becomes a redundant and partisan republican exercise. it's only a matter of time before democrats raise the follow question. would there be a select committee if it didn't want to have the power to subpoena the former secretary of state hillary clinton for obviously reasons pertaining to presidential politics. >> congressman king, it's willie. you said the idea of a boycott is wrong. you said it would be arrogant. you say democrats feel they have something to hide. what questions do you have left about benghazi? what do you think comes out of this select committee? what's left to know? >> first let me just talk about
what george said there. to me the purpose of a select committee is to bring all of the elements together. right now there's too many separate parts involved and the whole picture can never be brought together. a lot of questions here. one, i have real questions. where was general petraeus during the entire time of the talking points? and as you look at the talking points and e-mails back and forth, clearly what happened here i believe is there was an ere ro for. the state department did not provide enough security. i understand these things. instead of owning up to that, they went to the phony story about the video causing this spontaneous demonstration. and from there you had elements from the white house like ben rhodes and people in the state department working to come up with a narrative so susan rice would go on television and tell a story. there's always politics. joe and i have been involved in a lot of political issues over the years, but i just feel when you're talking about four americans being murdered, the government, the president, the state department, the cia, the national security council have an obligation to tell the truth. and they have not done this to this time. >> i think it is hard to boycott something where four americans have died, you have an ambassador killed asked for more backup and support. even moving forward, how do we prevent this from happening in the future? i think it's going to be tougher for democrats. >> hard to do. though george's point about it being transparent as a matter of raw politics is true. to that point, one of the things that democrats and many others are concerned about is the notion this will be a transparently political exercise. and it will run on forever. so is there a way in which the select committee's duration could be limited so that you wouldn't be looking at the potential of an ongoing investigation that would go out all the way through the end of the 2016 campaign and conceivably 2017 if hillary clinton does happen to run. she may be president and being investigated over this. >> i support the select committee. i think there cab time frame put into it. this should not go on forever. from a political point of view, i think the worst thing republicans could be seen as is somehow encouraging a political fight over the fact that four americans were murdered. because it is so serious, we have an obligation to make it work, to make it work in an effective and efficient way. support the people on the committee making sure they function in a professional way and we not turn it into some kind of a show. it should be out of the way before the 2016 elections are in high gear. no doubt about it. >> all right, congressman peter king, thank you very much. good to have you on. >> good to have you on. >> thank you, joe. our own louis was in washington for the white house correspondents dinner.
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committee, republican congressman ed royce joins us next. and at the top of the hour, just how far are democrats willing to go on negotiating the minimum wage? senator joe manchin will join us with his solution in a bit. >> i'm going to ask him if he's leaving washington any time soon so move back to west virginia. >> keep it right here on "morning joe." ♪ okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu.
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americans might pay attention to it. what do you think? >> i think what we need to do is get our hands on the documents that the white house has been withholding. i mean, that's probably what the american people want to see. so regardless of who chairs, the question is what type of cooperation are we going to see out of the white house. and waiting 20 months to finally release some of these documents and only after a request, that leaves everybody questioning. >> why is it important? democrats think this is overally ideological. why is it important to have a select committee? >> well, you had four americans die there. you had a political spin that went on for months and months at least through the election trying to assert that, you know, this was about a very different reality than the one on the ground. when it happened on the ground as you talked before, it was a terrorist attack. this is not what the administration wanted to spin to the public. so that's a political act. >> what's the theory beyond the question of how the talking points are put out by administrations all the time. it was a political campaign. there was a lot of uncertainty in the immediate aftermath about what happened. what's the theory of critics about what would be recevealed the worst case scenario? what's the dark part of what the failure was that happened? >> the conspiracy is the coverup itself, right? but if you want to call it a conspiracy. i don't know what else you -- what other conclusion you want to come to. you had a situation where you had people on the ground who needed to be defended. and you had a political act in the white house where they decided not to provide the assistance prior to the attack despite all the evidence and afterwards decided to say this wasn't because it wasn't an al qaeda attack at all. it wasn't a terrorist attack at all. it was spontaneous. >> we had multiple investigations of what happened in benghazi, right? media investigations, congressional investigations. >> and for the first time we get some insight into how they were trying to spin this as a political argument that get out there and emphasize, efmphasize this was not a failure of policy. yes, it was. it was a failure also to listen to your ambassador and other people on the ground who wanted the assets to help defend that compound. this is a real issue. >> at that point in time, what was our libyan policy? obviously ambassador stevens knew what he was getting into it. this was a country he had deep roots and ties to. but we all know from the coverage that got us to that point, the complete chaos that libya was. so if you're talking about a policy failure that led to some type of conspiracy, what is the
policy failure? >> the policy failure here is not listening to your assets on the ground. you heard the deputy chief admission, his testimony in the senate. you recall he relaid all the attempts to get things in place to defend. we now began to see that ran with the political spin that the administration was trying to sell at the time. that's one of the reasons, apparently, why they wouldn't allow the defense of the -- of the compound with the additional assets that might have protected those four americans. >> with hindsight being 20/20 in all of this, is the main reason this is flooked at now is becaue it's under hillary clinton who might be running in 2016. >> don't you think the main interest is it took 20 months to get to the bottom of this with a request that was made by an outside organization despite the fact that congress including my committee had requested these documents. if you wait 20 months to get a document, it's a question in terms of what the administration is up to in not coming clear with the oversight responsibilities that congress has here. >> all right, ed. thank you so much. and again, the most important thing both sides have to remember so much. again, the most important thing both sides have to remember, four americans dead. that's what we have to focus on and figure out how we make sure it never happens again. >> congressman ed royce, thank you very much. >> thank you, ed. >> coming up, liverpool hopes to win its first championship in three years. roger bennett skipping into the room. i have no idea what he's about to say because i can never understand him. ♪ where did you go, where did you go ♪ when the world called for speed... ♪ ...when the world called for stealth... ♪ ...intelligence... endurance... affordability... adaptability... and when the world asked for the future. staying ahead in a constantly evolving world. that's the value of performance. northrop grumman. that's the value of performance. tigers, both of you. tigers? don't be modest. i see how you've been investing. setting long term goals. diversifying. dip! you got our attention. we did? of course. you're type e* well, i have been researching retirement strategies. well that's what type e*s do. welcome home. taking control of your retirement? e*trade gives you the tools and resources to get it right. are you type e*? the was a truly amazing day. without angie's list, i don't know if we could have found all the services we needed for our riley. for over 18 years we've helped people take care of the things that matter most. join today at angieslist.com
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mourniho. >> just don't do that. that's the buckner slip. >> 16 seasons he's dreamed of winning it. he gave the speech, "let's not let it slip lads" and then -- >> i was just saying i thought at first this was the bill buckner moment for liverpool. it wasn't the bill buckner moment because he wasn't the heart and soul of the organization for 16 years. it would be as if ted williams dropped a fly ball for the last out in the world series and stopped the red sox from winning. stevie g, to fall -- >> it's proof that god exists. >> oh, my god, what is wrong with you all? >> nbc sports, lever pool plays crystal palace. >> your prediction? >> i think anybody but arsenal will win. >> roger, thank you very much. >> mika, you are lovely. thank you are having me on. >> did you understand what he said? >> not a single word. >> as soon as the cameras go off, she's hammering me for information on norwich city. she knows more than she let's on. >> i do, i do. >> and coming up, senator joe manchion and -- >> some of us have to settle down, i like to dip my pizza in ranch dressing. do you know how they make ranch dressing? butter milk and sadness. alright, that should just about do it. excuse me, what are you doing? uh, well we are fine tuning these small cells that improve coverage, capacity and quality of the network. it means you'll be able t post from the breakroom. great! did it hurt? when you fell from heaven (awkward laugh) ...a little.. (laughs) im sorry, i have to go. at&t is building you a better network. there was a boy who traveled to a faraway place where villages floated on water and castles were houses dragons lurked giants stood tall and the good queen showed the boy it could all be real avo: whatever you can imagine, all in one place expedia, find yours when la quinta.com sends sales rep steve hatfield the ready for you alert, the second his room is ready. you know what he brings? any questions? can i get an a, steve? yes! three a's! he brings his a-game! the ready for you alert, only at laquinta.com! this and this. whip up this. munch on that. and dine out on this. that's 7 days a week. no tracking. no counting. no measuring. and you'll start losing weight right away with our 2 week simple start plan. so jumpstart your summer and join for free. try meetings, do it online or both. weight watchers. because it works. i'm on expert on softball. and tea parties. i'll have more awkward conversations than i'm equipped for, because i'm raising two girls on my own. i'll worry about the economy more than a few times before they're grown. but it's for them, so i've found a way. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. ready to plan for your future? we'll help you get there.
reason good evening, mr. president, or as paul ryan refers to you, another minority that relies on the government to feed and house your family. >> no respect from his boss, no chance to get ahead. i really wish eric cantor would stop writing me. [ laughter ] you can just pick up the phone, eric. >> governor, do you want bridge jokes or size jokes? i can go both. i can go half and half. i know you like the combo joke. i'm sorry, governor christie, i
didn't know i was going to tell it. whoever wrote it will be fired. so i will be a man and own up to it just as soon as i know how it happened. and if i find any wrong doing on my part, i assure you i will be dealt with. i just looked into it, it turns out i'm not responsible for it. justice has been served. >> can we just celebrate these pictures, by the way? it is so beautiful outside. after six months of just absolute garbage. look at that view, beautiful sunrise over the mall. it just gorgeous. >> and senator from west virginia joining the table, joe manchin. and the birthday boy, visor to
president george bush, -- >> 5/5/55. >> 55, wow. >> no, i'm 59 but i was born 5/5/55. >> we have chuck todd joining us as well. >> let's just talk a minute about chris christie. he actually -- he really looked good, he was in a good place, the jokes rolled right off of his back. we talked to him, we were going back and forth, we had a lively exchange -- >> i got right in his face. >> mark told this shot. we were debating book sells in new hampshire. he said i was selling a lot of books in new hampshire. i said i can sell more books in new hampshire than you. very good sense of humor. he seems to be in a good place,
mika. >> everyone talks about fat jokes and whether or not they're appropriate. >> i don't appreciate it because look at this picture. i've lost weight, okay? i'm not that fat. >> look at mika in that picture. look at how angry you look. you look scowling. >> well, it's a long story. there was a lot going on there. >> it's a party, mika. have fun! >> the first part of rehabilitation is the ability to laugh at yourself. >> that's a good point, though. i'll tell you something else he's doing. he is staying away, he's working in jersey, like we said he should. he's not going on national shows, he's keeping his head down. i thought for me a moment when i was just reading the "new york times" a couple weeks ago and there's this long story on bridgegate and whatever they call it. i get halfway through the story and i go vladimir putin is in russia right now. i don't want to keep obsessing about two lanes being closed back in november. and if i'm thinking about that as an analyst, i'm thinking a lot of americans are thinking, okay, fine, if he told the truth, let's move on. >> right, birthday boy? >> yeah, he's moving on. i think it's on to the next act. >> i don't know about that. i would say he looked physically terrific. we'll really happy for him about that. chuck todd, chris christie in terms of his appearance there and the whole story of chris christie being the butt of some jokes, what do you make of what happened over the weekend? >> that one joel mchale riff that you guys played, that was brilliant. that was just really well delivered. he hit the timing and it was pretty funny. but i agree with you. i saw governor christie. first of all, you can tell he's losing weight, he looks physically -- >> terrific. >> he's absolutely making progress. kudos to him. congratulations to the governor on that front. you're right, he looked like he was comfortable. he got a ton of incoming. you thought maybe that's three, four monies old, is that going to resonate. that one riff by mchale was hilarious. were like, my god, i think governor christie got picked on too much. >> i was sort of flinching. >> it oddly sort of helped him. >> apparently he took the jokes much better than our good friend donald. >> yes, he did. >> so joe manchion, let me ask you something, are you thinking
about leaving all of this stuff in washington, d.c., heading back home to west virginia? >> the only thing i have said is it not been a very productive time the last three and a half years. i said i want to contribute more. so i keep all options open. >> you can do something good every day, feeling like you've made a difference in someone's life, waking up excited to go to work given. i want to feel that given. i'm going to wait to 2014 to see what shakes out. i have a better platform in the senate to make a difference in the world, my country and my state. but if the leaders don't get together and it just going to be stalemate, i have to rethink it, too. i'm not a spring chicken anymore. >> you look great. >> you are a spring chicken.
come on. >> it's just a very dysfunctional place and culturally an unpleasant place to. a lot of people say, man, this is not a fun place to work. how much worse is it than you expected it to be? >> i didn't know what to expect from this standpoint. i always thought it was the highest honor in our country's public service to be able to serve in the senate. i keep hearing people say, well, it used to be that way in the good old days, it used to be this way. well, i've not been there when anything worked. where i come from from west virginia, you don't embarrass people and attack people every day and then expect to work with them. >> i'm expected to basically sit down across the aisle and raise
money against them and what's most important? the country moving forward? the bess government is good politics. >> and minimum wage, i asked chuck schumer earlier, can we get a compromise, democrats over $10, republicans still fighting. do you think there as a compromise, maybe $8.50, $9, throw in keystone, both side, compromise? whatever helps workers? >> keystone will be by itself -- >> will keystone pass by itself? >> it should pass. it passed last year by 62 votes. >> why isn't it passing? ilt ridiculous. >> no one can give me a good explanation why. >> let's go behind closed doors. is this really all about donors on the far left pushing democratic senators from doing what they know? >> those are donors that i don't know very well.
>> that's good. >> so i can't spack from that side of the bench, okay. with that being said, it doesn't make any sense and i don't think it helps democrats, especially democrats in challenging areas so we've got to move forward. 10.10 is great but if we can't get it, give me something. >> chuck todd did you want to check in. >> i want to ask you this, senator. you're not the first former governor who comes to the senate and says, oh, my god, what have i gotten myself into? there's a wheel caucus of you guys, about 10 or 12 of ex-governors serving as senators and you guys are the ones that sort of feel the dysfunction than others. because you were executives, you got to make aity signatures and see it implemented whereas here
you make a decision and see what government does with it. i understand that. why can't you guys get together and become a powerful caucus, lamar alexander, yourself, uch got mark warner. you guys are sort of are center left or center right in some ways. why aren't you banding to the and trying to become two pushbacks at harry reid and mitch mcconnell? >> we have formed a caucus and we are working together. some of those senators are not you for reelection. their state and their populous and basically where they have to be. the ten of us said, listen, we're going down this road together, swim or sink together, it would chang the whole country and change the world. i'm hoping we can break out of
this. it's becoming more contentious. no matter what happens, this election is going to be tight. no one is going to have 60 votes. people in the middle are going to start leading because the bottom lien is we've got to move forward on issues and the economy and the jobs -- >> so let's look at the landscape because new indicators are showing rough waters ahead in the mid terms. a pugh/"usa today" poll said republicans have their biggest advantage in decades. numbers show voters shifting away from democrats over the last six months. the number of democrats voting in the mid terms in support of the president's record has fallen 16 points since the 2010 elections. the number of republicans voting against his agenda have increased. still the president's approval is 39 points higher than
president bsh's rating. 65% are saying it's time for different policies under president obama. >> here's the "usa today" poll, they talk about how democrats in many ways are in worse shape than they were in between. but you know what? i remember 1994 and how it felt that year. i remember 2006 when democrats swept. you sure remember what it felt like that year. i remember what it felt like in 2010. all three of those years, i felt it coming. i'll be honest with you, i don't feel that. when i go out there, i don't feel -- i don't feel what i felt those three years. i remember telling republican friends in the beginning of 2006, don't run. brother, you're going to get killed. don't run. they ran, they got killed. i don't feel -- that doesn't man republicans aren't going to win. i'm just saying at this point in the election process, it doesn't feel like 2010. >> there's a little uptick in the economy if it continues. >> listen, i got to get more than three words out of mark mckinnon. i know it his birs day. >> maybe he's already prepared for it and that's why he doesn't want to talk on the air. how do you feel about republicans this year? is it going to be a big year or not? >> i don't think it going to be a tsunami but i think the republicans will keep the house and have control of the senate. i think they'll have control of boat john mccain jis. >> just very quickly, i think the reason you dent feel that way is when we normally have these wave years, the party that catches the wave has been out of power. the question is are voters so enamored with the party so-called out of power but are republicans fully seen as out of power or do they share some of the blame for the discussion in washington. i also remember 1998 when we were so so sure we were going to have a repeat of '94 and there would be an impeachment and it blew up in their face. what do you think? >> i simply look at the quality of the candidates we have. weep have the candidates in the most contentious races in the moderate, middle range. these are problem solvers able to work with us. when you look at kay haguen and mary landrieu, i think they'll success and they'll win. it will be close but these are the time of people need to keep in the senate. they're quality people that can work with both sides. they're not to the far left, for right. >> quick un-for-hypothetical. if you were running for election this year, one, would you ask the president to come campaign for you in west virginia -- >> no. >> and, two, would you run away from obamacare or would you embrace it in part or embrace it in whole? >> you can't go back to having the most expensive health care in the world and being 34th in the world in terms of longevity. i wouldn't have voted for what we had today. but what the problem and the
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tissue to be the best president of the united states beginning in 2017. >> okay. >> he made the time limit. >> okay. you made some really good points about her, which i would agree with in many ways. but that's not the message. what's the message? >> i think best qualified is the message. best qualified is the message. this is something i thought a lot about. of everybody out there who could run, who is thinking about running for president, she is the best person to be the 45th president. a and also the relationship she has with leaders. but it's going to be hard. 2016 is facing off against the super pac sludge factory. if it was easy for a woman to be president, there would have been a woman president. if she's the right person and if it's going to be hard, the best thing i can do is get out early and start pushing. that's why i did it. >> not that there's anything wrong with it. another part of it is that she can win. >> my sense is i don't know national politics as well as i know virginia politics, but virginia is an important bellwether state. i feel confident if she runs she will win virginia's electoral votes and i think that means she has a great chance of being successful. >> obviously senator clinton looks incredibly strong right now for the democratic primaries and also the general election potentially for 2016 but nobody gets a free ride. >> absolutely. >> who do you think in the democratic field is likely to step up and run besides senator clinton? >> i've heard a lot of folks thinking of running, the vice president, governor o'malley, schweitzer and others. some of it may depend on whether secretary clinton runs or not. there will be competition. we're democrats. that's the way we do things. i don't have inside intel about her decision-making process. i would suspect she wouldn't decide until later in the year. there's a lot of names out there. no one has asked me for my support, even secretary clinton hasn't asked me for support. but in thinking about who might run, i think she would be our best president, our best candidate and i want to encourage others to do what i've done and get on board. >> this is robert thomas. you're trying to draft hillary into the race. so hillary is not ready for hillary, though you are. and i say republicans are ready because they want to continue talking about benghazi. as this continues to play out, this will be what happened in benghazi as long as republicans and reporters are interested in digging. >> hey, tom, ahomas, i think wet to be talking about bends but i think we ought to be talking about how to make sure it never happens given. coincidentally, later today i'm going to a former army base in virginia, fort pickett. i've worked with the state department to help them make plans for an embassy training facility there. we ought to be talking about how to reduce the chances of violence at our embassies around the world and how to make sure our people are safe. the congress is focused a little more on the blame game and that's not the issue here. >> senator kaine, come join us on set sometime. >> thank you. >> coming up, wes moore. and then expert food consumer jim gaffigan joins us with more of -- oh, that's not good. don't do that. don't do that. it's my book but that is so bad what you're eating. we'll be right back with more identify morning joe." ♪ everybody needs a place to rest, everybody wants to have a home ♪ ♪fame, makes a man take things over♪ ♪fame, lets him loose, hard to swallow♪ ♪fame, puts you there where things are hollow♪ the evolution of luxury continues. the next generation 2015 escalade. ♪fame he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. when sales rep steve hatfield books at laquinta.com, so he knows exactly when he can prep for his presentation. and when steve is perfectly prepped, ya know what he brings? and that's how you'll increase market share. any questions? can i get an "a", steve? yes! three a's! amazing sales! he brings his a-game! la quinta inns and suites is ready for you, so you'll be ready for business. the ready for you alert, only at laquinta.com! la quinta! afghanistan, in 2009. orbiting the moon in 1971. 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we could put a million troops on the ground in afghanistan. the question of afghanistan is never going to be a military solution, it's a political solution. >> let's talk about the military solution, what we're doing as a country for our returning vets and what we're not doing for our returning vets. coming back with wes moore, as you know, we're losing 20 vets a day to suicide. what are you revealing to all of us? >> with coming back, i wanted to show a sense of humanity of what we're talking about. these have been the nation's longest wars in the history of our country. the fact is the vast majority of americans have had zero connection to them. we wanted to add a as soon as of hu -- sense of humanity.
we have vets coming back with significant challenges that we are now responsible for because these are veterans who when were asked, stepped up. we have extraordinary men and women coming back with great skill sets we have to utilize better. >> there's a scandal going on in va centers, are things getting better there in terms of dealing with back log, all the medical issues and all the stuff that department's been so criticized for. are we seeing progress? >> the truth is we're seeing progress but it's still not fast enough. when we have situations where you have veterans who are waiting 36 months in order to so a doctor, we know we still got work to do.
the truth is, when our nation needed our veterans, we didn't ask our nation to wait. we stepped up instantaneously. so why when they come home are we asking them to wait. of lot of this comes down to the duration of the wars. i've been meeting with families and v.a.s all over the country. last week there were about 250 vets in a room. i said how many of you would have expected if i asked you 12, 13 years ago we'd still be in afghanistan? three people raised their hands. we also want more communication. a lot of veterans are waiting for feedback. we want to know what happens and
what's going to do so this does not happen giveagain. >> the phoenix story is horrific. for that to be the back story, it's shameful. wes moore, it premieres next tuesday at 8:00 p.m. "coming back" with wes moore. >> recently they introduced a breakfast hot pocket, finally! i can't think of a better way to start the day. good morning! you're about to call in sick. ♪ hot pocket." >> jim gaffigan is here on set with food. just like mika, he's obsessed. well, he's studying the hot
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book. >> i could eat this entire plate of hot pockets. >> doesn't do it! >> num, num, num. >> this is from the recall batch, right? >> breaking news. they discovered some of the meat was bad in hot pockets. >> they have meat in hot pockets? and people that eat hot pockets already knew. michelle obama is rolling offve in her bed right now. how dare you are eat that? >> i could eat ten of those. >> what else do you talk about? >> i talk about weddings being absurd. >> why are weddings absurd? >> because they're ridiculous. >> i agree. but tell us why. >> it's prehistoric, medieval ceremony where daughters were exchanged as property yet over
the course of centuries, it got worse. it's out of control what we do at weddings. joe, i didn't know we were going to talk about that. >> i haven't laughed once here. you're freaking out at this sight here. >> you're seeing a transformation here. >> it's a food coma. >> there's something that happens when you take a bite into a hot pocket, something that's so processed and so bad for you that you feel good. there's sugar in here, you know that? a lot. >> mika, i think you'd be better off if you were wearing a pair of gloves when you ate that. >> it brings you back to bad things. >> jim, you have a new pilot coming out, hopefully? >> please take it away. >> it features you living in an apartment with five kids, two bedrooms, the wife, the kids. >> we had a two bedroom and we finally moved. we're now in a one bedroom. >> career's going well, huh? >> so the pilot is -- i mean, it's a long shot but it's about my life being the father of five kids. >> it's an early standout. early standout. >> look at that family. >> somewhere in iowa, they created the hamburger called the gaffigan undead burger? >> yes. it's a zombie burger in demoan. >> your wife is adorable. how did you get her? >> brainwashing. >> maybe it was one of those traditional weddings you talk about. >> the burger, there's five patties, one for each of my children. there's jalapenos because i'm a spicy latina and cheddar because i'm a hot latina. >> thank you for stealing the title of my book. i love it. we should go on tour. jim gaffigan "obsessed." your children are adorable, your wife is beautiful. >> on the loose in washington. it just not right. i'm not sure about this but we'll have his report from the white house correspondents dinner coming up next. wondering what that is? that, my friends, is everything. and with the quicksilver card from capital one, you earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you purchase. not just "everything at the hardware store." not "everything, until you hit your cash back limit." quicksilver can earn you unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you could possibly imagine. say it with me -- everything. one more time, everything! and with that in mind... what's in your wallet? [ ship horn blows ] no, no, no! stop! humans. one day we're coming up with the theory of relativity, the next... not so much. but that's okay -- you're covered with great ideas like optional better car replacement from liberty mutual insurance. total your car and we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. learn about it at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? woman: welcome to learning. spanish in the car.c on. passenger: you've got to be kidding me. driver: this is good. woman: vamanos. driver & passenger: vamanos. woman: gracias. driver & passenger: gracias. passenger: trece horas en el carro sin parar y no traes musica. driver: mira entra y comprame unas papitas. vo: get up to 795 miles per tank in the tdi clean diesel. the volkswagen passat. recipient of the j.d. power appeal award, two years in a row. double agents? spy thriller? you don't know "aarp" thanks to the aarp tek program, this guy is spying on his new grandson. aarp tek gets people better connected to technology, to better connect with each other. with social media, digital devices and apps. if you don't think "hashtag love dad" when you think aarp, then you don't know "aarp" find more surprising possibilities and get to know us at aarp.org/possibilities so ally bank has a that won't trap me in a rate. that's correct. cause i'm really nervous about getting trapped. why's that? uh, mark? go get help! i have my reasons. look, you don't have to feel trapped with our raise your rate cd.
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this weekend that injured nine people. so far two have been released from the hospital. doctors say the prognosis for the remaining victims remains unclear. nfl teams are on the clock. the draft beginning tonight right across the street from at 30 rock. the event is going to last three days. experts expect a few surprises as any pro-draft predictions could be misdirection. all right. that's going to wrap up a thursday edition of "way too early." "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ i really have not talked to jeb about the presidency. it's hard for people to believe. >> i don't know. i could see you forgetting you were the president. i could see that. you were the president. i'm pretty sure i've always been a painter. pretty sure. pretty sure i've always been a painter of cat and feet. >> good morning, everyone.
welcome to "morning joe." it is thursday, may 8th. with us on set we have the host of "mad money," jim cramer. it's great to see you. >> same. >> it's been awhile. >> too long. >> you still mad? >> oh, more than ever. >> good. >> we love that. >> on the other side of the emotional spectrum, he's not mad -- >> never. >> he's very passionate the host of ""ronan farrell daily," rona farrell. >> mommy gave him the support system. you were a doter. i've seen you two. >> is there a thing here? >> there's a thing. it's weird, but it's a thing. >> mother/son. wonderful boy. >> mother/son? >> so willie, i decided to change my plan. you know, we've been taking all the money we make here, right? and the coupons that phil gives us --
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like we do when we see each other except i'm not being paid to talk you. and you guys aren't paying us to watch. it's just guys talking. >> that's not the idea. >> facebook makes a ton of money. facebook's better. >> i don't need your details. >> sorry. >> what is twitter's plan to make money? presumably it started out as something fun but they had an idea how to turn profit. >> sponsored links. maybe you go there. click on something you don't want to click on, make a mistake, they get paid. >> i do that a lot. we have msnbc political analyst gene robinson. >> hi, gene. >> good morning. how you doing? i'm not mad either. >> you're never mad. gene's joyful. >> sometimes i'm mad, but today i'm not. >> we'll see if we can get you there today. >> joe manages on occasion. >> and jeremy peters.
good to have you on board. >> thank you. >> okay. republicans say their investigation into benghazi has nothing to do with politics. but they're facing tough criticism. republican congressman trey gowdy who is leading a select committee investigating the attack says it would be wrong to raise money off of benghazi. here's what he said on "morning joe" yesterday. >> i have never sought to raise a single penny on the backs of four murdered americans. there are two -- still and even in a culture of hyperpartisanship, certain things that ought to be above politics like the murder of our four fellow americans. >> well, he personally has not, i guess. can't speak for the rest of his party. 30 minutes earlier the republican congressional committee sent out this fund raising e-mail. from a website called benghazi watch dogs.com. the e-mail lets recipients link
to a page that asks for donations up to $500 and refers to them as benghazi watch dogs. >> willie, we yesterday had trey here. he was passionate. we agreed with him. i was warning democrats or republicans don't need to politicize benghazi. four americans dead. he comes out and says that and 30 minutes earlier his own party undercuts him and the credibility of his investigation by asking for $25 donations off of benghazi. give me a break. >> that's the problem right there. i thought yesterday trey gowdy was good on this show saying i'll do everything i can to get to the truth and not make this a political exercise. but all it takes a one e-mail like that to show the other side it is a political exercise. if they want to raise money off this issue. he said i'm not going to raise
one nickel over dead americans. then they did it yesterday. >> i don't know why political parties do this. political parties do it. it's the republican parties now that's been caught doing it. i mean, they have undermined the credibility of this committee. they need to promise they're not going to do it again over four dead americans with $25 donations. give me a break. >> it's disgusting. it really is hideous. if republicans expect this investigation to be taken seriously at all and not seen as the most naked of political exercises to animate the republican base in advance of the election, you know, look. there are a lot of democrats out there today saying as they were yesterday that this is all political. that this has nothing to do with a search for the truth. that it has to do with a search
for votes and contributions. and the party seems to be, you know, eager to give evidence that that position is right. so they better clean it up fast if they want to be taken seriously. >> john, why don't we reach out to trey gowdy's office and see if there's anything they want to say during the course of this show in response. >> i'm sure they will. he was very straightforward about where he stands. if i was him, i would be so pissed off. they really -- you know what? they really undercut his credibility. >> and with the number of hearings -- >> i'm sure they're going to hear from him. >> he has to establish this is different if he wants to sell this to the public. they've turned out 25,000 documents. there's been tens and tens of committee hearings and meetings. they've got to prove there's substance there. >> that undermines everything they're doing. >> don't you think, though, that
in a sense if you're looking at this strictly politically the republicans would be foolish not to capitalize on this. with i've been to these town meetings across the country and benghazi comes up repeatedly. you cannot overstate how much this riles up the republican base. ultimately that's what's happening here. >> yeah. >> trust me. this is -- this is an important issue for a lot of americans, but when the washington establishment seeks to exploit it for political purposes or democrats like to pretend that nothing went wrong there, then americans look at washington d.c. you know what? on either side. and if you're trying to fund raise 25 bucks off 4 dead americans, that's why americans hate the washington establishment. >> absolutely. >> on both sides. >> meanwhile, former secretary of state hillary clinton is weighing in on the new panel. she says it's time for republicans to move on. >> there are a lot of reasons
why despite all of the hearings, all of the information that's been provided some choose not to be satisfied and choose to continue to move forward. that's their choice, and i do not believe there is any reason for it to continue in this way, but they get to call the shots in the congress. >> well, of course that's what she'd say. the white house in my opinion still stone walling. they hold back on important document where the white house ask coaching susan rice on what to say on the sunday morning talk shows. that began the center of this controversy. of course hillary clinton would like them to move on. they're not moving on and they shouldn't until the white house cooperates. >> it is in her best interest to move on as well. >> of course she wants it to move on. she's at the center of all of this. she was at the center of the 3:00 a.m. call. >> yep. perhaps there is no more vocal critic of mega donors koch brothers than harry reid.
in a one-on-one interview with chuck todd, reid clarified why he's going after the businessmen and not other big republican donors. >> it is the two richest people in the world. and they are in it to make money. that's their whole goal here. is they have zeros to their billions. and i don't think that's the case -- >> you don't think that's the case with adelson? >> i know sheldon adelson. he's not in this for money. he's got -- he's not in this to make money. he's in it because he has certain certain ideological views. now, sheldon adelson views are in keeping with the democrats. so adelson, don't pick on him. he's not in it to make money. >> he's not. by the way, we were just sitting here thinking -- i know. it's so laughable, gene. i read my forbes richest people
in the world, they're not the two richest people in the world, first of all. >> they are quite rich. >> i'd like their money, don't get me wrong. but don't say they're the two richest people in the world. >> i don't think that's the problem. >> saying sheldon not in it for the money. but the headline in today's "washington post," what does it say? >> it suggests that sheldon adelson is benefitting from his donations. he has donated to candidates around the country. many are siding with him to try and outlaw online gambling. adelson is, quote, playing three levels of chess. even bringing on democratic strategists including former senator blanche lincoln of arkansas to beat back competitors pushing online gambling. you can see more of that interview with chuck when he joins us at the 7:00 hour. >> gene's still laughing. it's because he loves america
and gene's happy. >> aren't we shock snd we're shocked, shocked, that billionaires would like to make more money. >> shocked. >> and we think it's fine that they're giving lots of money to politicians so they can make more money. and advance their interest. >> harry reid says he's doing it because he loves america. >> well, you know, god bless him then. but he happens to live in the state of nevada, doesn't he? >> oh, i never really put that together. oh. hold on. hold on. i'm connecting those dots right here. okay. thank you. >> i'm always looking out for false equivalences. i think we buy into that too often. but here's a direct equivalent. it's absolutely true. >> it's just direct. >> yeah. they're trying to make more money. anyhow, don't get me started. >> jeremy, harry reid is so obsessed with the koch brothers, they're going to have to take out a restraining order pretty
soon. but is this strategy working? he's banging this drum every day. is it working as we look at some of these races that come up in '14? >> i guess we'll know when the democrats release their next round of fund raising numbers. that's primarily what this is. it's a strategy to get democrats worked up about the involvement of these billionaires who could really with all of their money and all the spending they're doing in races on advertising could tip the balance. you know, i think this works, this strategy of going after the koch brothers works where they have business interests. that happens to be in the most contested states with senate races. alaska, north carolina, for example. where i think it gets a little bit harder for the average voter to connect the dots is in other places where the kochs are just more of a name. and that's all. you saw the latest "wall street
journal"/nbc news poll that still half of americans don't know who they are. that's consistent with a poll a few months prior to that. on the other happened, half americans know who they are. >> quickly, jim cramer, tell us. there's huge money in this. one of the funny things about what harry reid said, funny as in contemptuous, there is so much money involved in gambling, in casinos and this is as cut throat a business move. fine, let him do it, show him adelson can do. he's trying to kill online internet gambling across america. >> it's addictive. you don't need to go to the casino. >> willie, you know this. i have always been against online internet gambling. go ahead. >> the thing he has to worry about, he has to make sure that relations with china are good.
his big profit center is not in this country. it is over as the gambling mecca. and he has done incredibly well. the internet gambling, look. it's easy to kill because all you got taught is be able to say younger people get in that shouldn't. younger people can gam l. the statistics on addiction is major. >> online gambling is a horrible idea. >> horrible. >> and i've seen it first hand with a lot of people. again, just -- there's tons of money involved in this. when harry reid says that sheldon adelson is doing it because he loves america and has nothing to do with making money. >> the share will get hit if it takes off. and get hit if china cuts off the cap. >> here's the problem. when you have that kind of a wallet, you can change the law on goomabling.
if you go down the list. harry reid has that obsession with the koch brothers. we also see it as a bigger problem. it's on both sides. money's taking over politicians. it's not speech. and to the extent it is speech, it needs to be much more regulated. >> if all those people you named could only be in it for the same reasons sheldon's in it for. we'd be a better koun troy. see the flags behind me, i love america too. in case anybody didn't know. >> okay right here. one more big story before we go to break. first lady michelle obama is lending her voice to an international push to rescue nearly 300 school girls kidnapped by terrorists in nigeria. she tweeted this photo and the message it's time to bring back our girls. the islamist militant group behind the abduction is being blamed for more violence. officials say hundreds of people were killed when gunmen attacked a village near the border with cameroon. militants reportedly opened fire
at a crowded market on monday before setting fire to neighboring homes. survivors say the massacre lasted for hours. the village was apparently used by troops in their search for the missing girls. police were offering a $300,000 reward for information that helps find the young captives. the girls were kidnapped three weeks ago and the terror group is threatening to sell them into slavery. the incident has sparked outrage across the world. former secretary of state hillary clinton spoke about the kidnappings criticizing nigeria's government. >> the seizure of these young women by this radical extremist group boko haram is abominable, critical, it's an act of terrorism, and it really merits the fullest response possible first and foremost from the government of nigeria. the government of nigeria has been, in my view, somewhat
derelict in its responsibility towards protecting boys and girls, men and women in northern nigeria over the last years. >> pretty tough there on the nigerian government. there was an ap account written up yesterday that gave basically a blow by blow of what happened during the kidnapping. there was a call from the school. they had lead time. someone tipped them off by two hours these guys were coming. they called the nearby military barracks, no help came. these guys were able to flee into the vast park where they are now. what can the united states be doing beyond what we've done so far which is to send support? >> i think that technical support team will help a lot. it's the help they need. but it reveals a larger problem. african terrorism is on the rise. it is attacks by al shabab, al qaeda affiliates. i think this technical support team needs to be the kind of
support we have in place in general. >> the united states? >> absolutely. african is predicting this is the next front in the war on terror for a long time. we just haven't done enough. >> gene? >> i think it's kind of a mistake to see boko haram as a pure terror group. in fact, it's more of a criminal enterprise. what we're talking about here, i think, at base is human trafficking which has been going on in that region, in that part of nigeria for a long time. the borders are for porous. they kidnap the wrong set of girls with the wrong set of parents this time. and they happen to get this #bring back our girls to trend and catch fire and drew the world's attention. you know, this is a group -- yes, it has now the islam iic ideology, but they've been disowned by al qaeda. saying, jeez, these guys are
crazy. they don't want anything to do with this. this is also just criminality that the nigerian government, frankly, if not complicit has been at least willing to ignore what's been going on. and former secretary clinton is right. they should be held to account for that. >> gene, thank you. still ahead on "morning joe," congressman elijah cummings who says congress holding lois lerner in contempt is a throwback to the mccarthy era. he joins us on the 7:00 hour. plus tonight is the start of the nfl draft. it's our chance to bring in former nfl coach jon gruden. >> you know what? us doing that, i'm sorry -- >> what? >> that's a throwback to the mccarthy era. next you're going to tell me we have donny osmond. >> oh, we have donny osmond. >> seriously? >> he's a little bit country. >> so he wasn't talking about
the '68 election? >> no. >> we're going joe. >> up next, michele bachmann takes a strong stance against women's history. her reason in our morning papers. >> mike allen's here. he's got the politico playbook. but first here's bill kairns and a throwback to mccarthyism checking our forecast. bill, this rain -- this rain, sir, is un-american. sir. sir. >> it is. maybe we'll have congressional panels on that shortly. the rain going on in new york also back through areas of pennsylvania. it's all kind of associated with what happened yesterday in the central plains. five tornadoes were reported and a lot of large hail. that was the big predominant thing that happened. we saw numerous reports of golf ball sized hail from minnesota to texas. this video comes from oklahoma. some of this stuff was enough to put some dents in your cars. we're going to do it all over again during the day today. as far as the new york city area
goes, all morning long into probably the early afternoon, periods of light rain. it's a narrow band. so if you're down from philadelphia southwards, you should be just fine. look how warm it's going to get. into the 80s today from pittsburgh all the way back to the washington, d.c., much cooler in boston. the big story will be the middle of the country again. it is may. this is our severe weather season. unlike last week, this isn't going to be a huge tornado outbreak. but if we're going to focus on one area, it's that area in red that poses a moderate risk of severe weather. it's going to be widespread in this little area from just south of minneapolis, southern minnesota, all the way down through central iowa including the ames and des moines area. we'll see one or two strong tornadoes. along with those, large hail is likely. that's where all the storm chasers will be later this afternoon. if we have any of those storms, we'll bring them to you and give you the details. the rest of the country looking just fine in the southeast. we leave you with a shot of a fairly rainy new york city on
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the chicago tribune. high school seniors fail to show progress on reading and math exams. in addition, 3/4 failed to show math comprehension. it's only a slight change from 2009 when the national exam was last administered to 12th grade students. the news gets worse. >> "the washington post." the national history museum bill passed yet despite pushback from some including congresswoman michele bachmann. she said the proposed museum in d.c. may put too much emphasis on the feminist movement. >> -- in opposition to this bill because i believe ultimately this museum that will be built on the national mall on federal land will enshrine the radical feminist movement that stands against the pro-life movement, the pro-family movement, and the pro-traditional marriage movement.
>> the potential museum would be funded by private donations. and a new report from "usa today" says despite invested more than $26 million, the national guard failed to sign up any new recruits. e in 2012 the guard saw nearly 25,000 potential recruits associated with nascar-related programs. only 20 met the qualifications and not one of them joined the service. >> "the washington times" fears about the impact of the sequestration cuts were exaggerated. only one federal employee lost a job. one. >> washington, d.c. oh, sequestration. oh, locusts are going to descend from the heavens and chew the flesh off the bones of 200,000 federal employees. one person lost their job? seriously? seriously? >> one. >> liberals were jumping out the
window saying it's over. sir, it's over. sir. give me a break. >> the report also found virtually every federal agency reduced bonuses, travel time, and overtime. >> and the charlotte observer, pop star clay aiken. >> i love him. >> he should have beaten ruben. >> he so should have. how do you know that? that's true, you know? >> i know. he sang "bridge over troubled waters." >> i know. it was amazing. >> he was great. so they're fighting through this democratic congressional seat. reports say aiken is holding onto a slight lead. but crisco with perhaps the most unfortunate name in this year's political campaign still says the race is too close to call. crisco says he's not going to concede despite trailing by 369 votes. >> he should -- come on. he should sing a song.
>> you weren't a ruben guy? i thought he deserved to win. >> really? >> we can argue about this. >> clay's skills were better. >> he's a great singer. >> let's hope he edges out crisco. wait, why are you laughing? >> it's just in politics it feels like that's a tough name. >> crisco is like oily? >> yeah. >> crisco party. stuff like that. >> he just might win though. let's see. with us now in new york again the chief white house correspondent for politico mr. mike allen. good morning. >> good morning. happy draft day. >> happy draft day to you. right across the street. we'll talk about that in a minute. let's talk about keystone not whether or not it's going to get through or whether or not the president will approve it, but it's huge in washington. you've got lobbyists on this, oil companies, there's a lot of money already being poured into this operation. >> turns out that keystone is definitely good for the economy. the d.c. economy.
politico added it up. tens of millions of dollars is being spent on it. the irony here is when both sides really drove down, if you will, it's not a game changer either for the economy or the environment. but it has become such a symbol, you can compare it to years ago, acid rain. which was a decades-long fight. and so both sides are using this as a proxy for climate fights to come. and so not only do you have tons of advertising in d.c., you've noticed at the metro stations especially around capitol hill, around the state department, all over those particular stations, there's signs about keystone. tons of ads on our tv. and all these fake groups, you know, vets for energy and americans for jobs. you can trace it back and figure out it's either for labor or for the oil bobry or one of the
interested groups. >> putting the business fortunes aside, is the keystone pipeline a good thing for the united states of america in terms of jobs and energy? >> i think it's undeniably good for jobs. it takes a huge number of people to build a pipeline. and the kind of skilled jobs you like. >> that's why laborers are for it. >> yes. if they don't build it, they will have to take it by train. or it's going to go to china. and china is not going to refine it as well as we do. what happens in china four days later goes to los angeles. i think the climate change people are very u.s.-centric and don't understand the global politics of it which is canada wanted to send it here, it's a little cheaper and better. but they will send it away. it's not going to come out -- stay in the ground if there is no pipeline. i agree with you in terms of this thing has become much larger than it really should be. because there's lots of ways to get oil to refineries in texas and louisiana. this is just one of them. but it is the fastest and it is
the quickest. >> what's your hunch, mike? does this get approved down the road? >> a long-time belief was the president would improve it. after the delay, people were not so sure anymore. >> yeah. 2016. >> but it's a part of the odd coalition. you have obama consultants on both sides of this fight. >> right. mike allen, it's a fascinating look at washington if nothing else at the moment. >> have a great day. coming up, the obsession with disney's "frozen" keeps growing. moms love it, kids love it, marines love it. it's politicians' turns. we have the parody ad. but first how will the nfl owners react if an owner went on a racist tirade like donald sterling. richard sherman will weigh in. we'll have that next. ♪
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♪ all right. time for some sports. cramer and i were talking before the show about kevin durant's speech. >> watch it. you will feel great about this country. watch this speech. >> the part to his mom was beautiful. but if you watch the full
11-minute speech, he goes down the line. every teammate and talks about each about why he loves them and what they mean to him. and this is at his mvp conference. >> no notes. this is a speech that must be watched. everybody feels that athletes are selfish, just out for the money. you watch this and you will say the finest isn't. >> you will cry. you've got to watch the whole thing. last night on the court in the playoffs, the thunder -- >> don't we have someone on today? >> his mother's coming on. >> isn't that cool? >> thunder and the clippers during the semis. durant playing like the newly crowned mvp. he had 32 points. thunder win 112-101 to even up the series one game a piece. in indianapolis, pacer had to have this one after losing the first game at home. and roy hibbert who'd been criticized for disappearing all playoffs long had a huge game
last night. season high 28 points. the big man wakes up. the pacers beat the wizards. that series now tied. playoffs continue tonight with the nets in miami and the spurs hosting the blazers for another pair of game two conference semifinal matchups. that first game wasn't close. >> they will win one back in brooklyn. >> none of that matter nous. >> they have turned brooklyn around. 2 million people, never knew it was a city until the nets came. >> they had a good team this year too. richard sherman is cashing in. he became the highest paid cornerback in the league after signing a four-year contract extension worth $40 million in guaranteed cash. that makes him the highest paid corner in the nfl. but it wouldn't be a sherman story without controversy. he was talking about donald sterling's ban from the nba. he told "time" magazine he
doesn't believe roger goodell would have dolled out the same punishment. quote, we have an nfl team called the redskins. i don't think the nfl really is as concerned as they show. the nfl is more of a bottom line league. if it doesn't affect the bottom line, they're not concerned. his contract extension goes right in. >> richard sherman said i had the best imitation of him. >> can we see it? >> i'm off my game. >> you can't say that. >> dwooel it at the break and we'll decide. >> real quick, we've grot jon gruden coming in coming in in a little while. he'll be hosting the draft. what do your eagles need? >> our general manager has said we need a cornerback, need a safety. kelvin benjamin, i still think it goes that way. >> okay. we will talk to jon gruden in the 7:00 a.m. hour. and al 8:00 -- >> and ahead --
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in planned military exercises of the country's nuclear forces. it's a mixed signal following putin's announcement he's pulling his troops back from the border with ukraine. joining us now on set, editing manager of "time" magazine. she's here to talk about the latest issue with pooutin on th cover. what does he want? >> i think the first thing he wants is to erase the memory of the 1990s where russia was being humiliated by the west. but i don't think he wants open war. i think what we saw last night is he was losing control of what was happening in senior ukraine. >> one amazing photo, by the way. show the photo. >> you should know our correspondent in reporting the story was dragged out of his car, pistol whipped by pro-russian separatists, taken captive. it is a very dangerous story to be covering.
i think that putin among other things realizes it is not possible to control some of the passions that are being unleashed. and so i think part of what we saw last night, has not pulled the troops back from the border yet. but by lowering the tensions, i think some of that is this was getting outside of even his control. >> is anybody in russia that can challenge vladimir putin on any front? or is he a de facto czar? >> in the course of these last weeks where his approval rating is back in the 80s, he's cracked down on bloggers, social media, so he's making it much harder. >> been killing journalists for years. it's just -- >> nancy, why is he so popular inside russia? >> well, i think it does go back to a proud country that did feel
humiliat humiliated. the line between nationalism and patriotism and dangerous global threat is a continuous one. and i think there's been a lot of public support for it. but i also think no one wants to be saddled with a failed state or a long slogging bloody war which is what would happen if he had to send troops into ukraine. >> gene robinson, inside the magazine in the package about russia, there's a piece from our buddy john meacham. meacham says the president's critics say he's weak and whiney but he's doing what most presidents do, muddling through. a couple months into this thing bb how can we assess the president's moves? >> okay, i guess. i don't see what else the president could have done. he has european allies who have to come along who are reluctant to apply tougher sanctions.
it's not clear that tougher sanctions would deter what russia has been doing in any of that. i think nancy is absolutely light about what putin wants. i think he wants to be remembered with the great after his name. he wants to be putin the great like peter the great in the transition of the czars. and that's how he thinks of himself. and i think ukraine is kind of very special to him and to russia. i think president obama kind of understands this dynamic and has done what can be done to try to contain it with the understanding that there's not that much we can do. we're not going to send troops, but we're going to reinforce nato and send a signal that, you know, you can't go but so far. >> couple other pieces. you have it's time to let teenagers drink again. the age 21 rule pushes kids
towards pills and other anti-social behaviors. >> this is camille arguing a libertarian argument that the drinking age of 21 makes no sense. and part of her argument is that we are depriving young people from the ability to learn how to drink responsibly and socially in a sort of public setting that's been part of european culture, obviously, for centuries where you might get a glass of wine at a family celebration. and you learn how to use alcohol responsibly. what's happened with the 21-year-old drinking age which was instituted with the best intentions is it's driven drinking unmonitored. we've seen a huge increase in binge drinking. >> we're seeing it -- let's be transparent here. we live in the same town. >> we do. >> and we're -- let's not even talk about 18 years and older. i'm struggling. i have two teenagers.
the drunk kids that stumble around our town every friday and saturday night. i'm talking most of them. most of them. freshmen, sophomores, juniors, seniors. >> and those are high school kids. >> and they're binge drinking. how would this help? >> i don't think anyone is arguing that high school kids should be, you know -- >> but doesn't this bring it closer to -- i mean, if you move it down to 18, isn't that going to actually move the problem of children starting earlier to even younger? >> we already have the problem of children starting earlier. and i think what she is arguing is that we have made it impossible to help as adults to help them learn the difference between irresponsible drinking. >> so we've got to go, but also just let people know also you've got a story on a fascinating book by 43-year-old -- interesting title. marx 2.0.
i was looking at -- saying that. >> thomas has caused a stir in financial and political circles. arguing that debate on the table. >> fairly obvious as far as the problem goes. people make more money on the investments than the rest of america makes on labor that we're going to have inequities. >> so his mainly opposite argument that wealth will trickle down, he's saying as the wealthy control more capital and the capital increases faster than the economy grows, that has the economy grows you're going have growing income inequality. he likens to where the u.s. is now to where france was in about 1789. >> we know now that went. we'll check out the latest edition of "time." thank you, nancy gibbs. coming up, harry reid knows one big difference between koch brothers and sheldon adelson.
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big cash settlement, but i promise you a big cash settlement. one of my favorites. >> joining the table, the very injured and in pain and she's always in pain when she's sitting here with me, but today issue just in pain. and the host of msnbc now alex wagner joins us. and in washington, nbc news chief white house correspondent and political director chuck todd. >> chuck did it. >> here we go. back off of chuck. >> jim cramer, jeremy peters still with us as well. >> what? >> nicole is blaming you for her injury. >> she is now. >> he had that door rigged. >> how did she snow? the trickiness of powers at 30 rock. >>. >> who would blame you after all the terrible things she said about you? you spoke with senator harry
reid yesterday and talked about why he was going after some businessmen and not other businessmen. take a look. >> they are the two richest people in the world. they're in it to make money. that's their whole goal here is to add zeros to their billions. i don't think that's the case -- >> you don't think that's thes say with adelson? >> i know sheldon adelson, he's not in this for money. he's in it because he has certain ideological views. now, sheldon adelson views are keeping with the democrats on choice, all kinds of things. don't pick on him. he's not in it to make money. >> don't pick of sheldon. >> but the headline above the fold in today's "washington post" suggests sheldon adelson is benefitting from this
donations. he's donated to groups around the country and many are siding with him to try to outlaw online gambling. adelson as one of his team members called it is playing three levels of chess. even bringing on strategists including blanche lincoln of arkansas to pushback online gam ling. >> jim cramer and i were talking about how destructive online gambling is and the addiction it causes. this is about harry reid. and for harry reid to say sheldon adelson is not in it for his business interests seems absurd. >> it certainly is a reminder that i've always said nevada is a one-party state. and that party is the party that takes place on the strip by the guys that own the strip. and it does seem as if it is amazing in some ways how you see this in nevada where members of
both parties will line up and be supportive of these casino moguls. reid yesterday with me essentially endorsed brian sandoval, the republican governor. there's this power structure there that they all just sort of -- they're not as aggressive against each other if -- and you have to ask yourself if it's because the casino folks are happy. then others are happy. it was amazing to me what he said about adelson. >> -- when the governor may be running against harry reid two years from now. >> well, you know, reid's reasoning by the way was because there's no good candidates running against the governor. and it sounds like maybe you kill them with kindness. >> all right. i want to show another part of your interview. senator reid also weighed in on the prospect of hillary clinton running for president again.
>> everybody knows i love the clintons. including chelsea. >> and do you want her to be the nominee? do you think there should be a healthy primary process? >> why nopt -- i rarely think primaries are healthy. >> oh, you don't think they're good for democrats. >> for anybody. >> why's that? >> 'em being facetious. >> you think it would be better for secretary clinton if she has a serious democratic rival. i believe that the primary was with obama and clinton was an extremely healthy process. i think it was wonderful. >> i think you are going to be in a new category, chuck, of fantastic awkward moments. >> that was strange. >> my god. >> but mika and joe, they all revolve around the same topic. >> yes, they do.
>> hillary clinton pen people that didn't support her in '08. and you asking -- i'm just saying, that's two. i'll wait until there's a third before i decide there's a pattern. >> i think there is a pattern. i've seen it too. and i think it happened yesterday on our set before you went all -- everyone on the set we were talking about a story related to the clintons and everyone like this. >> sort of froze up. >> then you just went off which is good. >> yeah. still some -- >> i don't know. let's try alex wagner on this. >> alex, here's harry reid, the guy who went to barack obama way early in his senate career and said you need to run for president. >> where is he on hillary? >> he's not ready for hillary. i love the clintons. i don't want her to be the nominee, but i love the clintons. >> well, this is like -- the myth making and the fear amongering around the clintons like don't cross them otherwise a door in the floor opens up.
also they are the future of the democratic party and incredibly accomplished. >> is that true? the door on the floor opens up. >> we are led to believe there is this clinton industrial complex where names are kept, sins are recorded. >> whether or not they are pouring over their notes on a nightly basis would be up for discussion. you can see in his -- especially now that barack obama is gone. >> saying he wants a healthy primary process. >> joe -- >> we're seeing this more and more. some hesitancy among high-profile democrats. not just blindly get behind hillary clinton. >> you wonder if it's -- look. you know, everybody's trying to
figure how do they handle this stuff behind the scenes? were there real bitter feelings among the folks who pick eed oba over clinton. i mean, jim clyburn has told us about his uncomfortable phone call. you can't help but wonder that the way things went down in '07 and eigh'08, that when all this momentum was going towards obama, that maybe some of these wounds didn't heal inside the party. as much as we'd like to think they did. >> we talked about south carolina and jim clyburn. that was really ugly when the race card was allegedly played by bill clinton. things got really ugly there. but nevada, there was also that scene of bill clinton wandering around the strip accusing the democratic apparatus out there of fixing the election. >> which is code for harry reid.
right? >> right. accused harry reid of fixing that primary too. so there are obviously a lot of scars from 2008. >> that's what i think it is. scar tissue. >> really? i think it might be more of what alex is saying, but i'm scared to say it. but i just did didn't i? you did, didn't you? >> yeah, kind of. i think. don't tell anybody. >> there are reports at some point everyone has to get on record saying this is the deal. and we've seen it in the press too. anyhow, let's move on to the attack in benghazi in 2012 which has nothing to do with politics some say. but they're facing strong criticism this morning for attempts to fund raise off the attack which left four americans dead. republican congressman trey gowdy who is leading a select committee in selecting the attacks says it would be wrong to raise money off benghazi. here's what he said on "morning joe" yesterday.
>> i have never sought to raise a single penny on the backs of four murdered americans. there are -- still and even in a culture of hyperpartisanship, certain things ought to be above politics like the murder of our four fellow americans. >> but about 30 minutes earlier, the national republican congressional committee sent out this fund raising e-mail from a website called benghazi watch dogs.com. the e-mail lets recipients link to a page that asks for donations up to $500 and refers to them as benghazi watch dogs. >> nicole, i agree with trey. don't fund raise off of the death of four americans. and yet the same morning the nrcc is trying to give donations of $25 to $500. >> it's stupid. and i think it's going to stop because it's unsustainable. the select committee is going to go forward and be taken seriously, they have to stop.
what fascinates me about this story is democrats have no appetite to get to the bottom of why susan rice who to me is one of the most promising women and competent which in the obama administration, was denied the privilege of serving as the country's secretary of state because of what she said in large part because of what she said on five sunday shows. what she said on five sunday shows was we now know crafted by the white house. why don't democrats want to know how that message came together when it resulted in literally -- that secretary of state post was ripped out from underneath her because of what she did on the sunday shows. we now know the white house shaped that message. and the fact it's so political, that democrats have no appetite for understanding why she said what she said, i don't believe in the moment the white house is covering up what happened. but i think they are not being forthcoming about how those
messages were crafted. >> and they're asked -- i said a couple days ago if i'm practicing law and a judge asks for discovery and i'm supposed to turn over everything pertaining to one subject and i don't turn over a document that goes to the heart of it which said susan rice, you are to say this and not this and came from the west wing, a judge would hold me in contempt of court. i would go to jail. and in the first place, they're trying to show hillary clinton. they're not going to find this out in the investigation. they're trying to show hillary clinton as quote, too tired, to go on the sunday talk shows. so they shove susan rice out there on something she's not qualified to talk about because it's not under her jurisdiction. it was under hillary's jurisdiction. then they gave her talking points on an issue she hasn't been following. scene she's basically set up to be knocked down. >> okay. couple things. i would just say 13 hearings, 25,000 pages of testimony.
if that's not some kind of appetite to explore this, i don't know what appetite is. >> we're still in documents that the white house is holding back. >> i think it's fair to ask the question why was this -- >> all those investigations obviously didn't mean a whole lot, did they? because the white house we just find out last week is not cooperating. >> alex is right. the cia and the state department turned over enough information that we learned a lot of important things. these were not state department outposts which is a good fact for hillary clinton. they were cia outposts. that made the financial issue not a political football. and alex is right. there were hundreds of thousands of pages turned over except for the document created in the west wing. and let me tell you something. as the white house communications director, when the white house sends out talking points for a sunday show, they trump anything that came from anywhere else. >> but if you re-read that e-mail, i mean, everybody has focused on one of the four talking points. the other three are totally benign and exactly what you would expect from the white house. the fourth one, i think, is open
to interpretation. there's a lot of litigation that will continue about that. but for this to launch a thousand ships -- >> where's the ambiguity? >> fir when you have something that goes to the heart of the matter? >> does it? >> yeah. when they say susan rice don't talk about barack obama's policy -- >> failure of policy. >> talk about a videotape. of course you know this goes to the heart. don't insult our intelligence on this. >> i'm not. >> when they're telling her to talk about a videotape, you're saying that doesn't go to the haert heart of the matter? >> i believe the number one talking point on that e-mail was our job is to keep americans safe. we will not waiver in that. that was the number one. >> i'll wave that flag. >> these attacks were. >> reporter: that doesn't negate what happens at the end. >> there are two things to litigate here. one to your earlier point, why
is this e-mail coming out now? there's a legitimate question. >> why is it? >> i don't know the answer to that. i think the white house should be asked. the second, there was an assessment the cia had as for whether these attacks were rooted in protest. that nuance was stripped from the e-mail ben rhodes sent. >> because we now know the cia, their analysis did not include any connection between the video. the cia testified that certainly there were protests in the region, but not that they were tied to the video. that's why the white house talking points are so -- i think are being viewed with such a degree of suspicion by republicans. >> can i raise a point here quickly? i think what we're really getting at here is what will the select committee in the house tell us that's new. alex you raised this question. four house committees have looked into this. i wonder if they decide to subpoena hillary clinton.
the only new big splashy development i see coming out of this committee is getting hillary clinton before congress. and we don't know if that's going to happen. we know republicans would love to see her testify before congress, because they have been trying to prove for a year now that the obama administration and hillary clinton know more than they're letting on. and that's why you're seeing all this fund raising off this. you can bang up republicans for fund raising off of this, but it would be political folly for them not to. the enthusiasm, the intensity with which the right views this issue is very hard to overstate. you go to town meetings and you hear benghazi come up even more than obamacare sometimes. that's what this is about. >> i want to go to capitol hill, congressman from maryland elijah cummings. >> good morning. >> if the tables were turnd and the republican administration had not released an e-mail like that, wouldn't you be asking a
lot of questions? >> yeah. i'd be asking why. let me start off by saying -- wait a minute. speaker boehner can shut this fund raising effort down right now and he should. >> we all agree. >> you shouldn't be raising money in regard to this matter. joe, if you want to send out a message. send that one. >> i sent it out at the top of the 6:00 hour. so go ahead. >> and so with regard to the e-mail, you know, i don't know how they go about sending these things out. but i do know it takes time to have to go through and make sure they are obeying a subpoena. and i'm an attorney. i know. i've seen quite a bit. but at the same time going back to what alex said, keep in mind. as i recall, there's one reference to benghazi in this e-mail. and that the e-mail that they're
talking about with regard to rhodes, it was consistent with what the cia was already saying. they have three parts to this investigation. one, the talking points. two, what happened that night. and three, what are we doing to keep our people safe? come on now. you just spent about ten minutes talking about their talking points. i want to make sure we keep our people safe. and hopefully this committee, if it's a fair committee and it's one that is truly bipartisan, we've tried the partisan route and apparently that hasn't gotten us as far as we need to go according to republicans and we need to do something that is fair. as leader pelosi has said, even steven and be treated more like an ethics committee. so that there is bipartisanship with regard to issuing of subpoenas. bipartisanship with regards to wherever to discovery. and bipartisanship with regard to depositions and access to
witnesses. that has not happened in my committee. i can tell you. it's been becausically one sided. >> you know, i agree with you. it needs to be a straightforward committee. i personally think there needs to be six republicans and six democrats on there. republicans don't need to fund raise off of it. but there are a lot of questions that need to be answered. and this e-mail that has been sent from the white house as nicole said, that takes precedent over everything else when it is -- >> i'm sorry, joe. i have to disagree with you on that. >> no, no, no. >> hold on a second. don't twist my words. >> no, no, no. i'm telling you what i'm saying. >> when susan rice gets an e-mail from the west wing to instruct her what to say on a sunday talk show, if you don't think that takes precedent over any other document generated by any other department in the united states government, then you don't know how white house is run. >> well, i do know.
and i know that whenever folks from the white house go out on these talks shows on sundays and others, they send out talking points. but we got to go back to the document. now, it does not take a select committee depending more and more of americans' money to get to the bottom of that. i don't see what this select committee is going to be able to do that we couldn't do in our committee. keep in mind, we have -- chairman issa has four subpoena powers. he has used it without consultation from the democrats. he has that. >> let's talk about yesterday. lois lerner. let's stop talking about benghazi. i think you'd agree with me we should move on. >> all right. >> the house voted yesterday, "new york times" jeremy peters reporting to find lois lerner in contempt. what's your take on that? you compared it to mccarthyism. >> oh, i'm sorry. i thought i was talking to
somebody else. >> if i have you here, why would i want to talk to anybody else? >> i thought you were talking to jeremy. let me say this. this is the first time since the 1950s and '60s that a committee has stripped somebody of their fifth amendment right and then at the same time went on to a contempt citation. and this is unprecedented except in the mccarthy era. 9/ even in that era it failed. i wonder where we're going here. it seems as if there has been an effort to, again, my argument was not that i don't want to hear what miss lerner had to say. i want to hear it. but you know what? there's something that is more significant than that. and that is upholding the constitutional rights of every single american. that's what this a isn't.
>> jeremy, you wrote about it. tell us about it. >> well, i think it's certainly more than just about any episode that i've witnessed on capitol hill in the last year, illustrated how far apart these two parties are. congressman, i would ask you, certainly the atmosphere that's so poisoned right now has led to democrats saying we're not going to participate or we don't think we should participate in any of these investigations that republicans are spearheading. so i just wonder with the benghazi select committee convening, what do democrats have to gain by participating in that? because mrs. pelosi has said she's not sure she wants democrats on that committee at all. >> well, i think pelosi wants fairness. and i can understand both sides of it. she's seen what's happened with the four investigations that have happened in the house and they've been strictly partisan. and then she has also seen the way that we've been treated in
the oversight committee and other committees where a staff report is put out without any democratic input whatsoever. and that, you know, the subpoenaing of witnesses with no consultation from democrats. so what she's looking for is a fair situation. on the other hand, if we are not in the room, i'm concerned about that because i can't imagine a hearing being at all fair if we're there. if we're not there. but at the same time i could understand leader pelosi's position that we don't want to legitimatize something that is obviously a partisan effort. >> all right. >> so it's a tough issue. >> all right. >> congressman cummings, thank you so much. it's always great to have you on the show. >> alex, stay if you can. then we'll watch you again on
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here with us now, personal finance expert and contributing editor to money magazine, farnush author of "when she makes more." ten rules for bread winning women. this is so timely because she makes more more often now. >> in her marriage. >> even though she makes less in general than men which is a whole other issue. >> i'm disgusted by that. go ahead. >> 24% of married women today are making more than their male spouses. that's up four times since the 1960s. i'm in this demographic, however, when i got to reach this point, i realize even with my experience covering the financial terrain for over ten years, helping people with their finances, i feel confident managing my own money. this was complex territory for me and my husband. you look at what is happening statistically when she makes more and enters a relationship,
there's more divorce, more infidelity. i did my own survey of over a thousand women in this country and found she struggles how to make it all work from career to housework to her romantic relationship to money. >> which, i'm sorry. let's just go right there. because i think men can't handle it for the most part even if they say they can. i think it's really tough. >> it can emasculate them. >> they must not pay rent in manhattan. my husband would think it was awesome if i made anybody close to what he makes. >> there's been a lot of headlines since i wrote this book like is bread winning women is problem? the reality is no. we want to celebrate this. the problem is we have antiquated expectations and different ideas of what it means. >> here's the deal. the long-term analysis, i think, has yet to be written.
i like your rules. i want to get to them because they're really important. but i think women who make more probably burn out sooner. and it all balances out in the end. am i wrong? >> well, we live longer than men, that is for sure. >> also to your point about women who are successful wanting to balance all these other things is women are successful in the work place, one would assume all those career go getterism would translate to other areas and you want to make sure everything else was okay on the home front. when she makes more, she does more housework which is insanity. it's like she's trying to overcompensate. >> in every way. let's talk about that. you have good rules for bread winning women. face the facts. rewrite the fairy tale. definitely. that's over. >> i love number six. >> level the financial playing field. what are you talking about? >> especially in the relationship where she makes more, emotions can muck up how
to manage money. you want to make everyone's money have meaning. that's what i get across in that chapter. >> i have to get to five. hack the hypotheticals. five, cater to the male brain. what is that? >> this is about sayi ining the are gender differences in how men and women need to be communicated to. you tell me you're doing too much housework and you're burnt out, this is how to communicate with your guy. men want to provide. they want to help. >> isn't it just sex? i don't get it. wait. i don't get it. >> well, there's that. >> what? are we all talking around the same thing here? >> honey, i need your help in this thing and give him the gift of duty. >> he wants to be your hero. it's not just i forgot to make dinner, help me. he needs to take over the domain. >> doesn't that just reinforce this whole male/female dynamic at the root of the problem? >> yes and no.
i'll tell you two things. the couples that thrive most when she makes more are the ones who transcend expectations in the gender roles. >> then they can put the seamless app on their phone and they don't have the conversation. >> as long as there's dinner on the table. but you have to respect there are gender differences in how what our needs are and how we communicate to one another. you can't expect that your man will anticipate you. you can't. you've got to communicate effectively. >> like i said -- >> and number six. buy yourself a wife. >> yeah. okay. some of these are really good. >> that's a great one. >> i think number five you might want to redo the definition. i'm going to help you out here. >> well, the headline can ensite for sure. if you read the chapter, you will get it. >> i would love to have a wife that makes more money than me. because i wouldn't wake up at 6:00 in the morning or at 4:00
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we studied people 70 years and older. those who reported eating high amounts of carbohydrates in their diets, in particular sugar, were more likely to develop problems with their memory and their thinking and decision making. later in loo i have. this is what we called mild cognitive impairment which is a very strong risk factor for developing alzheimer's later on in life. >> so a diet heavy in sugars throughout their lifetime? or the use of sugar after they turn 70? >> well, we asked them the questions at the time when they were 70 years and older. so we asked them about the diet in the year prior to the study. this gave us an average look over a one-year period. what types of foods they were eating. sop if they had high carbohydrate intake and high intake of sugar, we found they
had a risk of mild cognitive impairment which often leads to dementia later on in life. >> just one second. doctor, if you look at overall diet in life whether it starts at 70 or not in terms of increasing dementia, aren't a lot of these substances we are finding fairly addictive. and so you find that if you eat sugar as a child, it ends up staying with you for the rest of your life. it's hard to change that diet at 70. >> well, mika, i think you're right. i think there's a lot more need for research in this area. we need to continue to fund the nih and do the work that's necessary to understand this particular aspect of lifestyle, life decisions, diet. you're absolutely right. the habits we form when we're young do tend to follow through for mid-life and late-life. it's highly probable that the findings of what we're eating in mid-life do reflect what we eat as a child. but that's an area that needs
more research. >> dr. roberts, could you tell us specifically what food groups are we talking about in terms of at age 70 or age 60 or whatever. what food groups should we be wary of eating? >> what the study specifically looked at right now was looking at the relative balance of carbohydrates, protein, and fats. and if you look at those groups, i think it's the relative proportion of what you're taking in terms of the calories that you're putting into your body that's important. if you're eating healthy protein, healthy fats, and a healthy amount of carbohydrates. typically if you reduce the amount of simple sugars which are the sugar you add to the food, the sugar you get from your desserts, the candy bars. those are the things we don't want you to be eating. we want you to be eating vegetables, healthy proteins, healthy fats. and there's a lot in the literature about fatty acids.
fatty fish. and fruits and vegetables. those are the things we're thinking about. now, the reason these are important is if you go over on the calories and don't balance it out with the amount of exercise you're getting that's what tends to drive you down to develop diabetes. and our study show the people who had type 2 diabetes in mid-life were at high risk of having a shrinking of their brain when we looked at their brains in late life. and so this goes back to the question you asked initially. we need to start teaching people to have the right diet when they're young. when they're in preschool, middle school, adolescence. not wait until mid-life when we begin to tell people to change their habits. so this is something we need to stress. >> yes, dr. rosebud roberts and dr. noseworthy giving us another reason with their search into dementia on why to reframe the diet. the diet has been pushed over
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do you think houston says why don't we bring johnny manziel in at number one. do you see that happening? >> i certainly could. i've been a proponent of manziel. he's not a finished product. you've got to have an imagination to coach johnny football and somebody is going to be very fortunate. >> what about the whole spectacle of the draft itself? it begins today, it's going to go on for six weeks, constant television. when you first started out, they could get in a room, go 10, 12, 15 rounds in four hours. what impact does it have on the game, on personnel and the teams? >> that's a great question. this has become such a national spectacle, with the immediate way it is, not just espn and the internet. there's so much knowledge out
there and so much information that's accessible to fans, people are educated in football. people know a lot about these players. it continues to snowball and gain momentum every year. >> i have to ask you about a.j. mccarran, what round is he going to get drafted? >> i'm surprised you're bringing up the crimson tide. you seem to do that every year. >> i got my e-mail saying they're strong at every position except the qb. >> i don't think he has a great arm or great mobility but i see him going in the third round. i'm waiting for some of these great collegiates to become
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they are the two richest people in the world. and they are in it to make money. that's their whole goal here is to add zeros to their billions. and i don't think that's the case with any -- >> you don't think that's the case with adelson -- >> i know sheldon adelson. he's not in this for money. he's not in this to make money. he's in it because he has certain ideological views. now sheldon adelson, social
views are in keeping with the democrats on choice, on all different kinds things. don't pick on him. he's not in it to make money. >> wow. that's amazing. >> that's pretty funny. >> we all laughed. >> did you see gene earlier? >> oh, gene was laughing? >> gene the laughing machine. >> nicolle wallace and chuck todd is in washington. joining us, nbc political analyst, form are chairman of the republic national committee, michael steele. >> that's twice he's says
sheldon is not involved in politics for any financial reason. i'm not picking on sheldon. i support him on this issue. but he is going around the country spending a lot of money to try to influence people to ban internet gambling. >> and, by the way, who if you have an expansion of internet gaming, who could end up being hurt by this? well, people that own brick and mortar casinos and who owns them? oh, right, sheldon adelson. what's bothering me with the infusion of the billion mayairb the political parties only have selective billionaire outrage. they're only mad at the billionaires that they're not pals with. they're missing the idea that we're allowing oligarchs, i
don't care if they're liberal or conservative, whether it's bloomberg on guns or the koch brothers and regulations, you look at all of this and you say to yourself should the power to decide what issues we're debating lie in the hands of three or four people in american politics and that's what's corrosive in these systems. >> republicans are more concerned about democrats that spend a lot of money and vice versa. >> chuck captured it, deciding what we talk about and how we decide these issues. the fact that we've got harry reid who all of a sudden now doesn't have a problem with sheldon adelson but before was
screaming holy hell about the guy, along with the koch brothers, is just such a disingenuous load of crap -- >> well, that's one way of putting it. >> that is one way of putting it. >> harry reid, at least he was very equivocal about hillary clinton, the prospect of hillary clinton running for president again. take a look. >> everybody knows i love the clintons, i don't need to say more, including chelsea. >> and do you want her to be the nominee? do you think there should be a healthy primary procesprocess? >> why not? rarely do i think primaries are healthy. >> is that right? you don't think they're good for democrats? >> for anybody. >> why is that? >> why go through the trouble? why not just be anointed -- i'm
being facetious. >> i thought you were. you think it would be better for hillary to have an rival? >> i think the process of going up against clinton was wonderful. >> oh, my god. >> that was awful, chuck! no, no, you were brilliant, chuck. but it was so awkward on the other side. >> you're like mr. magoo, inspector clouseau mixed along with somebody else and all of a sudden they say these things that sink them. >> bumbling along. >> you did a great job here but there were about four or five times that we all sort of erupted in laughter with the responses. >> i'm with you. >> and the awkward pauses. >> to me it's what makes a harry reid interview somewhat
compelling. he's this mix of -- he's so mild mannered on one hand, his demeanor. but, man, he's got a sharp tongue. when he paused, it was making my me wonder what does he really want to say? i wish i could read the thought bubble in his head. >> when was the last time that harry reid did an interview that someone on his staff didn't have to clean up afterward? >> i'm not characterizing my interview. >> did you have no interview with anyone on his staff afterward? >> with one thing the folks that used to work with him just say you get used to the point that harry reid is harry reid and he will say what he wants and he seems to be unafraid. by the way, i asked him about the harsh language he uses, whether it was on the koch
brothers or form are president bush. he claims he has never had a regret about a single thing he said, name calling and this evenings li-- things like that. that's harry reid. >> what do you think it is about the state of our national politics that on both sides there's unrest, harry reid among the democrats and mitch mcconnell among the republicans? >> to me it means there's something bubbling beneath the surface that can be very troubling. that is playing out with the establishment types and gop party of the tea party. now the democrats are going to come into this phase as you get closer to 2015 with hillary at the top of the ticket or not is that the establishment really needs to control the way the politics flows.
harry reid has been very good as a checkpoint along the way. that interview was one of those examples that, yeah, whatever i didn't like about hillary in 2008, i still don't like. >> i'm afraid to say it. >> but i'm afraid to say it but if i need to, i will. >> you look at jim clyburn, very important, an recall primary state. he's angry with the clintons, he just wrote about it in his books and a lot of scar tissue in 2008 when he suggested it was rigged. >> but i love him. >> but i have no intent of making her road easier. >> it's interesting to go after the koch brothers. i'd ask chuck the fact that harry reid continues to go after the koch brothers, it's kind of falling on deaf ears. there are certain base democrats
that get all riled up on it but they're not making that case otherwise to make those two villains of the right. >> this is an entire democratic campaign strategy because they have this idea if they demonize the koch brothers, they can somehow make the republican candidates in some of these places, they can turn the koch brothers moo bain capital, for instance, feigned a w-- find a is there a business where the koch brothers are advertising and they can localize it and make the republican own it. step one is raise the name idea of the koch brothers, so reid is using his senate time to do that. but in our most recent poll, we checked out what the koch id
was. it seems now they're having the conversation with themselves for the koch brothers, they haven't created some sort of anger in the middle with persuadable voters. >> amid calls to resign, the head of the department of veterans affairs will stay the course. jim, tell us about the scandal that's weighing on the military right now. >> mika, it seems we've heard of all of this before. the v.a. has long been accused of not providing american's veterans with the military and medical care that they need when they need it. this case is different. it rises to a different level where the allegations appear to border on something criminal. the latest scandal comes out of the v.a. hospital in phoenix where as many as 40 veterans reportedly died while waiting
for treatment. >> secretary aaron shinseki said he was surprised by the allegations but accepts full responsibility. are you willing as secretary of v.a. affairs to accept full responsibility? >> i am. i asked the inspector general to go and conduct a complete, detailed, thorough investigation. >> reporter: some in congress and the american legion demand shinseki resign. but he brushed it off. will you resign? >> i would say i serve at the pleasure of the president. >> reporter: it's alleged hospital administrators buried appointments in a secret list and then ordered the files destroyed. >> it really cuts to the core of our country's confidence in the
v.a. the entire public has lost confidence in the v.a. >> congress is poised to way in on all this as early as today. we expect to see subpoenas issued for v.a. hospital records that they have failed voluntarily to provide to congress. a round of hearings is expected next. congress will want to know what happened here and what went wrong and was there any criminal activity involved. >> given shinseki's background or career, is there a level of huge shock that he has been unable to make a crack, a dent into the v.a. bureaucracy? it's as bad today as it was five, six, ten years ago. >> i've followed general shinseki and now secretary shinseki for years. he's always been one to hide his emotions, high shock or anger or frustration really. but when i asked him yesterday
do you really completely understand the level of outrage over all of this, he said, "i think i do." he is so focused on getting the job done in sort of a militaristic-type fashion, we do this, this, this, hourly he doesn't seem to grasp the level of heart break and in some cases some suspect as a result of what may be criminal activity. it just doesn't seem to register with him at this point. i believe he is angry, he says he was taken by total surprise by these allegations. but this spreading to at least four or five different medical facilities. >> jim, thank you so much for
being on this morning. >> thank you. >> chuck todd, we'll see you today at 9:00. >> in tattoo parlor, right? >> i want to say today's show has really shown your range. >> thank you, mika, after beating me up. >> i've been back handed praising you. >> at least you admit it was backhanded. >> is this the same tattoo parlor with nancy pelosi? >> it is the same tattoo parlor where they did the little fake gag. this was on our trend political question. someone your house with a
tattoo. it's one of those cultural this evening -- things we all know but haven't seen it in a number. everyone you know probably has a tattoo and notice we're not judging you anymore, there's not a stigma anymore. >> well -- >> no, it is less so. you see it everywhere. you're like, whoa, there is sort of a radical change over the years. >> i know you upper east siders don't have tattoos but the upper west siders. >> barnicle? >> a couple. chuck and i are on the all-ink team. >> straight ahead on "morning joe," kevin durant's having a year to remember and he says it's all because of one woman.
>> i wasn't supposed to be here. you made us believe, you kept us off the street, put clothes on our back, food on the table. you sacrificed for us. you're the real mvp. >> his mother wanda pratt is going to join us later. that is so moving. and up next, it isn't just washington who has something at stake with the keystone people line. but first here's bill karins. >> how can you not root for kevin durant. i want to show you some pictures from the central plains yesterday. we dealt with severe weather. we didn't get the tornado but we did get the hail. i think the hail was very impressive. today it could be enormous, like the type of hail shattering windshields. ardmore reported golf ball-size
hail. let's wrap up yesterday. five tornadoes, none of those caused any injuries or fatalities, the hail was widespread. the same store is lingering in the central plains. texas, minnesota, wisconsin at risk from severe weather today, tulsa, little rock, dallas. if we're going to get any baseball size hail, the size of your first, it's going to happen in the red area today. from des moines to aims, just south of minneapolis. if you're also the new york city airport around 30 to 45-minute delays. low ceilings, light rain moving through this morning. that's not going to be in d.c., though. if we get any storms in d.c., it will be late today. the greatest threat today will
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scratching their head asking what's it all aboot? washington. >> there are 84 pipelines right now between canada and the u.s. -- >> there are 84 pipelines between canada and the united states? why is this such a big deal? >> that's the question we have. when we look at the state department reports, it basically says that if the oil doesn't come on a pipeline, it will come on rail. and they've been proven to be correct. the amount of oil, crude oil on rail coming to the united states has grown 50% one year and the next year. what the consequences? higher emissions, higher risk for people. again, according to the state department, and higher costs. >> so the state department and
canada both support the peopleline because it's better for the environment and safer for people close to the transporting of it. >> that's right. for three reasons we support it. it's become -- the people opposed to it five years ago said if you have do not approve the pipeline, the oil will stay in the ground. that's fallen like a house of cards in terms of the facts because the oil is just coming done on rail. when you look out your window and see more tanker trucks, you see more tanker cars on railways, you should know it's a consequence partially of not approving a pipeline and having go on rail. the oil is coming from canada, from north dakota and montana. it's just the way it's getting to the gulf coast. >> what about legitimate environmental concerns, though, around nebraska and the water ways and potential leakage? we're all familiar with leakage. what about legitimate environment an concern
environmental concerns? >> there was concern about the route in nebraska and it was moved away from the aquifer. the highest security was put in place and approved by the state of nebraska and by the state department in the u.s. >> what's the impression that you have to sort of try to explain or translate to your government or your public about the state of the politics around this issue? >> we're a democracy, unlike some of the other places that import to the united states. >> i'm sorry, this has become one of those polarized issues where on one network people celebrate the peopipeline, on another -- it's become incredibly polarized. >> we would like it to go back to a fact-based, merit-based decision. when people talk about an energy
efficient bill in the senate. it's more energy efficient to transport oil on a pipeline than it is to transport it on a truck or on a rail car. now, there is a role for rail but to have people say no to the pipeline is actually to say yes to higher greenhouse gas emissions. >> are people surprised that president obama has been mired in the politics of all this? >> we thought the state department would inform the president and the american people. we like a fact-based decision making in our country. >> we don't do that much here. >> you have that great quote that you're entitled to your own opinion but you're not entitled to your own fact. we would like the second part of that. >> you hear varying numbers of figures, 25,000 jobs, 50,000
jobs. what are the fact-based -- >> everything i'm using is coming from the state department, not canadian talking points. >> isn't that amazing? >> 44,000. >> the obama state department says 44,000 jobs? >> yes. >> the obama administration says 44,000 jobs, the obama administration says this is coming out of the ground anyway. it's stunning. with all this information, though, do you feel, does the canadian government feel and canadians feel let down by the the administration? >> i feel the only way for the debate to go forward is for people to say factually canada is going to get its oil from other places. we have routes to the east going to india, we have routes to the west. we have these two routes to the united states and keystone is one of them. we prefer obviously to work in our neighborhood to have energy independence with canada, the united states and mexico.
so somebody has got to stand up and say the oil is coming down and it's either going to come down on a pipeline or it's going to come down on rail and it's going to come down on trucks. somebody has to stand up and say that because it's higher emissions the way it's coming down as we speak today. >> all right. why don't we leave it right there, ambassador gary doer. thank you so much. great to have you on the show. >> coming up, fedex answers the age old question, really? does size matter? >> the answer is yes. business before the bell is next and we'll explain why. ♪ early in the evening, just about supper time ♪ good. woman: vamanos. good. driver & passenger: vamanos. woman: gracias. driver & passenger: gracias. passenger: trece horas en el carro sin parar y no traes musica. driver: mira entra y comprame unas papitas. vo: get up to 795 miles per tank in the tdi clean diesel.
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this bill would designate yogurt as the official state snack money. >> what exactly are we defining as a snack? >> you have breakfast, lunch and dinner and then you have snacks. >> did you consider, say, the potato chip? >> no. >> cheese cake? >> cheese cake of thought more of a desert. >> raisins? >> no. >> cashews? >> never. >> can we consider the carrot cookie? >> the bill is passed. and lastly let me talk about the
state muffin. >> that's real. >> that was real? >> real as in that really happened in a legislative context? >> it did in albany. they can't figure out how to bring jobs to upstate new york, but they can talk about yogurt and pretzels. >> stop lying to our viewers. that did not happen. there's no way that happened. ha, ha, ha, very funny political show, that did not happen. no one is going to get me to believe that happened. >> sarah, a question was asked in the tease regarding fedex about size. do you have the answer? >> yes, turns out size does matter for fedex. >> all right, let me write that down. okay. check. >> this is a huge change, especially for those of us, including myself, who order toilet paper or paper towels online. fedex is going to change the way
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>> it's a a commercial right here, baby. >> you're converts. >> we look at each other and see the phones and go, okay, we just connected. >> you know what they call that? >> i'm not going to put it down but i don't like it. >> once i went to the samsung -- >> really? >> oh, yes. >> there's no going back. once you go samsung -- >> you never go back. >> how are you, guys? >> good. >> thanks for having me on. >> award winning singer donny osmond. >> it was my first single. >> no. ♪ one bad apple doesn't spoil the whole bunch girl ♪ >> do you know that was written for the jackson 5? >> no. >> i'm picking songs that influence me and one of the
songs of michael jackson's "ben." that was written for me. >> no? >> i was on tour and they said let's get michael to sing it. >> a beautiful song. >> everybody song on this album has a story like that. >> you guys really lined up, late 60s, early 70s, the jackson 5 and the osmonds, man. it's hard for people who follow -- >> how old were you? i was. >> 5. i was like 12, 13 when "one bad apple hit" and 13, 14 when "puppy love" hit. >> how did you survive this when, let's face it, michael had a much rougher run of it and you look at child stars time and time again. >> joe, can i poii can point to
things. my parents, i have great parents. family. it gets down to that. i married up. as a matter of fact, it's our 36th anniversary today. >> no way! >> where is she? >> get over here. come over here! it's your anniversary, come on. that's not going to work over there. >> i got to tell you something. sit on my lap. 36 years. ♪ and they called it puppy love ♪ >> this is debbie. >> i'm thomas. >> i just want to say something, she's not just my wife. she's my business partner now. we just came out with a company called donny osmond home. it went from 0 to 60 overnight. home furnishings. she's amazing. >> so now we're working together. >> what's your name? >> debbie.
>> what do you think the secret is to a long marriage? >> i don't know, honey, what do you think? >> she's always right. >> did you see that? >> i don't know. there's no secret. i think you just work at it and you have fun and enjoy the journey. >> whatever it is, you two should sell it because you look amazingly happy. >> we just found out we're having our seventh grandchild. >> there's no way you're a grandmother. what is it did donny that keeps you in love with him? >> ooh. i don't know -- >> be careful. i could kick you off my lap. >> he's just a really sincere, great, down-to-earth kind of person. >> 36 years. what present did he give you sn today? >> today? >> being on this show. actually, we're in town to do some meetings for donny osmond home. it's a work in progress.
we just found out home depot is going to carry some of our products and wayfair.com is carrying, bill.com is coming on board. we have manufacturing partners calling us. >> who would you describe the taste you two are embracing with donny osmond at home? >> it's a style of comfort and casualness and something you can bring your family into and relax. it's not traditional or stuffy. >> you two are relaxed right now. it's not a traditional interview, sitting on the lap. >> has this ever happened? >> no. >> how about this one -- >> after 36 years -- >> that's not happening. >> i'll let you go back and sit. debbie, congratulations. >> whoo! i liked it when he sang to you. that was nice. >> i love this week, this is my
week off, i can come to new york and celebrate our anniversary. we're in vegas next week. marie and i are celebrating our 1,000th show. we were supposed to be there for six weeks in '08. we just got the award for best show of las vegas third year in a row. >> oh, my gosh! >> and that's saying a lot. that's the entertainment capital of the world. >> how are you guys -- you're like the benjamin buttons ageing in reverse. >> must be that mormon lifestyle. >> both of you guys. you guys look amazing. >> i don't know. >> you work out, you eat well, give us some secrets. >> he just did. you don't see her on a bad day.
>> do you do "i'm a little bit country, i'm a little bit rock 'n' roll." >> oh, yes. this is amazing. a couple weeks ago after the meet and greet, there were four generations of ladies, there was the great grandmother, the grandma, the mom and the little girl. she was 5 years old. the great grandmother new me from the andy williams show and i said how does this little 5-year-old know me? she said every time we get in the car she says i i want to hear donny osmond's anaconda song. i said there is no anaconda song and she started singing
♪ anaconda puppy love >> that's so cute. >> your wife made the show this morning. i love it. >> i love her. >> happy anniversary. >> have a good day. >> we're going to top this, believe it or not. i know it's hard because donny osmond is right here. hold on. it's going to be okay, donny. there wasn't a dry eye in the room as kevin durant declared his mother the real mvp. >> oh, that tops it. his mom, wanda pratt joins us next. is that okay? >> that's great. ♪ my music makes me whole, i'm a little bit country ♪ ♪ and i'm a little bit rock 'n' roll ♪ let's share the news tomorrow. today we failrly busy. tomorrow we're booked solid. we close on the house tomorrow. i want one of these opened up. because tomorow we go live... it's a day full of promise.
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♪ ♪ i love basketball so much, i love playing it. i just never thought that i could make it to college, nba or stand up here today in front of you guys and be an nba mvp. it's just a surreal feeling. i failed so many times and got back up. i've been through the toughest times with my family but i'm still standing.
[ applause ] >> and last, my mom. i don't think you know what you did. you made us believe, you kept us off the street, put clothes on our back, food on the table. when you didn't eat, you made sure we ate. you went to sleep hungry. you sacrificed for us. you're the real mvp. [ applause ] >> okay. every time we watch that, we all start crying, but i hear she's crying, too. and she should and for good reason if a good way. that was oklahoma city thunder start and the nba's 2014 most valuable player kevin durant, playing tribute to this woman, the real mvp, his mother. welcome to the show. >> thank you so much to all of
you. >> this is thomas roberts. i was hoping you would be here in person so i could get a hug from you. can you put your arms towards the camera for a virtual hug? >> of course, of course. >> it's hard to watch that video and not well up for anybody. you have to be heartless. how special was it for you to see that honor for your son, so long overdue in many regards but to know how special you are in his mind's eye to be named the mvp? >> oh, wow. i was just really overwhelmed by it. i knew that he's would mention me, but i did not know he would do it so distinctly. and it really just kind of touched my heart. i was overwhelmed. and i was pleasantly surprised of course. >> mike. >> miss pratt, first of all, thank you very much for the gift of your son. who gave us all a gift the other
day with that incredible, emotional speech. but secondly, there are those of us who believe that the hardest job in america is being poor. and being poor and a single mom raising children, as you did, could you talk about the degree of difficulty involved in rai raising your children when you fear what might happen on a street corner on their way to school and taking care of those boys. talk about that a bit. >> well, we were -- we had very humble beginnings of course, but it was our life. and i decided that i was going to make the best of it. the way that i had to help my boys to stay away from the ills that were in our area is that i was always involved in their lives. i made it my business to sacrifice my personal desires and wants and sometimes my needs
for their goals and dreams. so i was always there. some considered me as a hovering mother, but i felt it would be best if i knew their friends, their friend's parents, if i knew the environment, what was the sea pleasant rec center, know the environment there. i made it a point to be in their lives. >> michael steele. >> wanda, thank you for the hug first off. i appreciated it all the way here in chicago. but you know, your story and your son's story is very familiar to many of us. and as your son was talking and listening to you now, it reminds me of my mother. this weekend is mother's day. just contextualize for moms out there that balancing act of raising your kids and providing for the family but then looking at a moment like that, that shot of you in that moment where you
teared up, what was in your hea heart? was it like a job well done or there's more to do? how do you push yourself even after you've achieved the success and seen the success for your son, do you still push more or do you sit back now? >> well, i -- i'm learning how to sit back. that part is really difficult for me. as mothers of young men knows, but my sons, they are helping me to do that. there are times when they come to me and they'll tell me that they need to talk with me, so i try to wait for that opportunity, but it's a learning process for me. but i'm trying. >> you know, wanda, when kevin said you kept us off the street, put clothes on our back, food on the table, when made sure we ate, you went to bed hungry,
kevin gave us all an extraordinary mother's day present and you have today as well. thank you so much for being with us. >> wanda pratt, thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. happy mother's day. >> i want another hug. >> don't be greedy. >> yes! >> there's always another hug from mom. >> thank you so much, wanda and thank you for your extraordinary example. coming up next, what if anything did we learn today? [thinking] i'm still working. he's retired. i hope he's saving. i hope he saved enough. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. whether you're just starting your 401(k) or you are ready for retirement, we'll help you get there.
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edition of "politics nation" growing hope, live from the sweet auburn festival in downtown atlanta. we'll look at ways we can all give back to our communities and improve the lives of people around us. we hope to see you there. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton, "hardball" starts right now. a tail of dark sposs. let's play "hardball." >> good evening. let's start with the right wing efforts to scare off people with benghazi and scare off minorities who might vote democrat without outright voter suppression.
this is aimed at the elections this november, obviously. one, drive up the suspicious right, including the second amendment people by saying the ghovt is lying to them about the death of u.s. diplomats, about the irs, about fast and furious to catch cross border drug dealers. two, change and restrict voter laws to discourage and confuse democratic voters. bottom line, a big republican victory this november. a veritable thumping of the democrats, set setting the stage of two years of administration frustration and obama hatred that seeds right up until the 2016 election. let's start with the conspiracy mongering here in washington to betray those serving the country overseas. who in the words of john baldwin, leaving americans to die at the hands of terrorists. to cheat conservative groups out of their tax dollars, and in some underhanded way, be in
cahoots of the international drug trade. the goal, ramrod the republican base to the polls. michael steele was chairman of the republican party. joan walsh is editor at large of "salon." house speaker john baner who green lighted the benghazi select committee laid out the gop strategy yesterday. it's about stoking conspiracies to get the truth. >> when is the administration going to tell the american people the truth? they have not told them the truth about benghazi. they' not told the truth about the irs. they have not told the truth about fast and furious. now, only one would have to guess if they're not willing to tell the american truth, it must not be very pretty. >> democrats are criticizing the republican effort to score political points by stoking these conspiracy theorys. let's listen to congressman elijah cummings on the house vote to hold former irs official
lois lerner in contempt of congress. >> this is unprecedented even in the mccarthy era. even in that era, it failed. i wonder where we're going here. >> let's hear hillary clinton on the house selection committee of benghazi. >> benghazi, the new investigation. are you satisfied with the answers? and are you content with what you know what happened? >> absolutely. i mean, of course there are a lot of reasons why despite all of the hearings, all of the information that's been provided some choose not to be satisfied and choose to continue to move forward, that's their choice. and i do not believe there is any reason for it to continue in this way, but they get to call the shots in the congress. >> let me go to michael steele, former republican national chairman. it seems to me the message here
just to get it straight is a broad conspiracy that all the democrats do on all the issues that seem to matter is to hide stuff. it's all about hiding stuff. hiding ben gas zi, hiding irs, hiding on this fast and furious campaign with a particular goal of going to the hardest right, the gun people. it seems to me to be playing to the fringe. this is people who will vote prawn if they do vote. this is to get them out to vote and angry. >> you're driving your base. just as we've seen democrats do in the past. and event to meant the left to drive home that base on a
particular issue. i don't see the hyper sensitive to what republicans are doing in that instance. it all plays itself out ultimately in the end. you've got to get through a primary process an you' got to figure out how once you lay down these markers you either deliver the goods or you're going to get the rath of the voters who reject your political play. it's a political risk, but that's where the politics are. i think it's completely risky but i think you do, too. ultimately. >> what do you think of this whole strategy of basically alerting, igniting, turning on, exciting, scaring up, whatever, the right wing, the far right who are very suspicious of government, period, no matter who's running it, who are willing to believe the irs is evil.
they're concerned about louing their guns to anybody. john bald sin is saying we killed out in the field. it's vicious stuff and i think boehner is being coached in how to sell it. >> he obviously is. for john boehner to be bringing up fast and furious at this point really smacks of desperation at this point. the whole conspiracy has eric holder in ka hoots with the gun control people to set this up to eventually have a big takeaway of guns. that's at the bottom of what they're upset about fast and furious. holy concocted on the fringe of the right and nurtured by fox news. john boehner shouldn't be talking about fast and furious. he shouldn't be talking about any of this, but that in particular. i just have to say one thing to my friend michael. yes, we want to get out our base. but when harry reid talks about the koch brothers they are oligarcs pouring millions of
dollars into our political process in large measure to line their own pockets. >> they're not lining -- >> deeply right-wing agenda. that's not a lie. the rest of this is based on lies. are we now calling robert gates a lion? leon pi n leon panetta a liar? the benghazi stuff is really, really dirty. >> the koch brother is doing what everybody is doing on the left. and they're doing it through their wallets, through political action commit feeps they're doing it in very legal ways. you can buy it or not buy it. that's your prerogative. the same in terms of what the parties are talking about more broadly. i get on one level there may be concerned about how we do some of the stuff or do we push that envelope as far as we should. but there are 12i8 still substantive questions on all the issues that should be discussed. >> what are they? >> you have the floor, michael. i want to ask you this. do you believe leon panetta, a
credible moderate democrat, do you think he went out there to kill chris stevens? me let him lie in the field? >> of course not. >> do you believe that loi lois lerner who is a bureaucrat was sitting there talking to the obama people about how to screw the right wing? do you believe she's in cahoots with the -- >> that we're still investigating, chris. we don't know. she hasn't told us. >> she is a federal employee probably for life and you're y saying she's -- >> can i just say something about -- >> don't use that word with me. that says something that you're not a stoner. don't start talking like one. go ahead, joan. >> here's theling about loi lois lerner. she exercised her fifth amendment right, we all have them. eli january cummings talked about this. her lawyer made a proffer to darrell issa's committee and the committee that congressman cummings sits on. he was willing to give a vague outline of what she knows to talk about some kind of
possible, you know, protection from prosecution. they wouldn't even go there with her. they were much more interested in a witch hunt and a trial. >> you don't get to say to the congress of the united states on something like this, oh, we'll just tell you vaguely what we were doing. >> not vaguely. >> you just used that determine. >> the cavalry has arrived on the democratic side which it rarely does. we've caught him. the american people have caught the republicans making money on this. and this is something that's not up for debate, right? the national republican campaign committee is out there raising money on the house select committee hear on benghazi with an e-mail that reads, quote, stand with congressman trey gowdy, the benghazi select committee as we fight for the truth about what happened with the benghazi attack. help fight liberals by donating today. using benghazi, including one from super hog john bolton.
here's how politico describes it. a john bolten e-mail accused obama, clinton and leon panetta ofrefusing to admit leaving americans to die at the house of terrorists. and elijah cummings called on speaker boehner to end republican fundraising off the benghazi probe. >> they have been using the deaths of these four americans for political campaign fundraising. >> i call the speaker of the house to end that process right now. with all due respect, if the republicans want to fix the problems with their partisan investigation, they need more than just a new chairman.
i have tremendous respect for mr. gowdy, and i'm glad that he said the fundraising should not be done on the deaths of these four people. and i hope that the republican conference will finally agree with that. we are better than that! >> here's the question, are they or aren't they? house speaker boehner was questioned rather well by luke russert of nbc about whether it was appropriate to raise money over the deaths of americans overseas. by the way, one of these fundraisers asked for $500 for the four dead americans. it was ruthless. here's luke res sert going after boehner asking if he thinks it's appropriate. >> speaker boehner, should the nrcc fundraise off your earths with the select committee? >> our focus is on getting the answers to those families who lost their loved ones. period. is. >> but should the nrcc, they're fundraising off of it right now? is that the right thing to do? >> our focus is getting the
truth of these four families of the american people. o. >> the campaign committee, which you are very involved in is fundraising off of this. why is that happening? >> our focus is getting the truth for the american people and four families. >> no controlling legal authority. why didn't he answer the question? >> let's put it out here. he should back up his chairman of the select committee, congressman gowdy is absolutely right. there should be no fundraising on this issue. it is disrespectful to the deceased. it is disrespectful to their families. and it is disrespectful to the process that the republican leadership wants to pursue. so if you're serious about the impact of benghazi, then show it by pulling back off fundraising. you're going to raise your money. you don't have to -- >> the chairman of the republican national committee says it's wrong to raise money off of benghazi. >> yes.
i support chairman gowdy 100% on this. he's absolutely right. and the leadership need to back him up. >> this is a stunning abdication of leadership by john boehner, seriously. but it goes back to when he once said it wasn't his business to tell the american people or the members what to think whether the president was born in this country. for him not to back up trey gowdy to say of course we're not going to fundraise on this and i want to stop, it's stunning he wouldn't do that. >> you're one of these reporters who keeps your file cabinet in your head the whole time. you remember, you're so good at remembering it, you're right. and by the way, i'm sure chairman reince preibus wi everything you say on this. it's horrible, it's ridiculous. morm morally, it's absurd.
michael, you caught them on it better than i could. new republican restrictions were going to make it harder for people to vote. in north carolina, we talked about scaring up votes. they're scaring it away. wee got signs now as of the primaries this week in north carolina, a state i've come to love, they're screwing people out of voting and it's already working. plus, a school assignment, believe this or not in 2014, asking eighth graders out in california to write whether the holocaust was real. was it just an ignorant assignment or evidence that holocaust denyability is gaining ground in schools? finally, let me finish to night with how nasty campaigns can come back to bite you.
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suppress the votes of blacks and other groups likely to vote democrats. there's a frightening new look at the early fruits of those efforts. the state's new laws which "the new york times" has called the country's most sweeping restrictions on voting in the country were in effect for the first time this tuesday and the results were not pretty. while most of the severe parts of the law don't kick in for a couple of years, not until 2016, election watchdogs on the ground in north carolina are already noticing some disturbing trends. new realities. i according to a summary of monitoring work, quote, the law's disqualifications of votes cast in the wrong precinct caused major confusion. the state's campaign to inform voters about the upcoming id requirement was carried out in a wildly inconsistent manner. when the law kicks into full gear, this is me talking, it will likely only get worse. of course that's the point. republicans in the state have passed the law last year. eliminates same-day voter
registrati registration, kills a popular programs to preregister high school students and slashes early voting. a and there are voter id laws. if republicans have the way, what's happening in north carolina will be coming to a city near you. eugene robinson is a political analyst and pulitzer prize winning columnist with "the washington post." and brian pearlmudder is with the voter defender project. brian, i want to start with you on the ground. what was your reaction? how do you assess the results of the voter laws as they're affecting the finds of voters and -- minds of voters and the good people trying to vote? >> we had over 300 people on the ground in 36 counties in north carolina. what we noticed was that people were confused when they came to vote, especially in places like boone and in halifax county.
voters who were showing up to vote at precincts and the state, you know, in specific counties have been changing and moving precinct locations. that the out of precinct voting regulations that wuld not allow people who are voting out of precinct for their votes to count. folks showing up at the wrong precinct were shuffled around and very confused about where they needed to vote. >> used to be if you showed up at the wrong precinct, because you went to what you thought was the closest place, they would still count your vote. now what happens? >> yeah. now your vote doesn't count. you have to be at the right precinct. and so where i was in boone, north carolina, there were students who were showing up on the campus, it's split into two. so students who were showing up with their roommate to go vote at a polling location would be inevitably at the wrong -- they would pick the wrong precinct and have to walk a little over a mile to get to the other precinct.
just regulations like this make it harder for students to vote, republicans to vote. >> and this is all purposeful. look at this. a republican in north carolina actually went on the record during an interview with "the lady sh daily show" to gloat about how this would hurt democrats. >> it's going to kick the democrats in the butt. if it hurts lazy blacks, so be it. >> and it just so happens a lot of those people vote democrat? >> gee. >> well, you know, it's amazing when you have the eye of the tiger here. anyway, yellen was forced to resign. you're not supposed to say it out loud. >> what you're supposed to say out loud is this is to protect the integrity of the voting process. we can't have voter fraud. this is all ostensibly to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
>> no, they have a problem, though. it's a different problem. democrats are voting democrats. >> it solves a different problem. >> aren't you amazed? you grew up in south carolina. you saw it all. were you surprised this guy was willing to come out and say this is to keep blacks from voting. >> i was surprised, actually. even back then they would keep up a pretext. >> they would say they were looking for truly literate voters. >> they wouldn't say lazy blacks. >> he talks like mr. poll tax, mr. literacy law. he doesn't seem to have any problem saying that. when you go around there, are you surprised that people are so openly -- or are they so openly flagrant about the goal to keep blacks from voting? >> yeah, i think that there is this intense reactionary wave of people in north carolina, but there's also a group of folks, you know, in this grassroots
earth that is mobilizing people in north carolina to fight back nens against these immoral laws. people are tired in north carolina and they want, you know, the voting process to be meaningful. so we've been mobilizing people on the ground and all over the place to really fight back against this legislation. >> by november, is there going to be a fair vote in north carolina or is it going to be tilted? the table tilted against kay hagan from getting reelectriced. the laws, the way people are being reinforced, is this going to tilt the table against kay hagan? >> i think what we're seeing right now, and hopefully, everyone is able to vote in north carolina. but what we saw in the primary, and this is a primary election, where there's a very small turnout. people were already confused about what was happening with this law. when it was being implemented, if they needed an id. some people were asking folks and telling them they needed an id for 2016.
other precincts, they wouldn't ask and tell people about these regulations. it's creating this confusion and this hysteria in north carolina. and when you have millions and millions of dollars coming into the state, the last thing we need is more confusion and more la i i layers on top of that. we're going to be on the ground making sure everyone can get to the polls. it is definitely a concern that we have. >> so you have boehner in the white shirt doing the white shirt job. his job is to get out the crazy right wingers, scaring them about benghazi and irs and fast and furious. even though these are words he would normally not speak. at the same time, you scare up the vote on the right, you have to scare up the liberal vote. it's pretty much two-pronged. >> tilts the playing field. >> why are they doing this when they're already ahead? this is what nixon did and ruined his career. this is what he did in '72 when they were going to kill mcgovern. but they had to go break into offices and cover it up.
why are they going so crazy here. they're going to win anyway. >> they may not be sure they're that far ahead. >> you look at the polls. >> north carolina is a state that's been changing. they got a huge hispanic vote now. you know, it's a changing state. it's changing week by week. >> it's not as secure as you think. >> when you roll up the score in any game, you pay later for it. i think they're trying to roll it up in a nasty way. thank you, gene robinson. they're skeptical, but i think they would be in good shape now if they weren't so dir about it. up next, a new washington project michelle bachmann was for before she was against this project. this is "hardball" a place for politics. you probably know xerox
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back to "hardball" it's no secret that senator ted cruz professes his admiration for winston churchill every chance he gets, but he didn't have much to say about the british columbia -- british prime minister when he met a pig that happened to share the name of a pig with the name of his hero. >> first time ted cruz had his picture with churchill. >> yes, senator cruz with a photo op with a pig named churchi churchill. the house voted overwhelmingly to consider allowing a privately funded national women's museum or women's history museum to be built in washington there on the mall. it's just an initial step for plans to show case the contributions of women to the
american culture. it turns out the most vocal opponent of the bill is u.s. congresswoman michelle bachmann. she says the museum dedicated to american women would only serve to embolden what she calls the radical feminist movement. listen to this point of view here. >> i rise today in opposition to this bill because i believe ultimately this museum that will be built on the national mall on federal land will enshrine the radical feminist movement that stands against the pro life movement, the pro family movement, and the pro traditional marriage movement. . >> this was the same michele bachmann who expressed gratitude when she was posted in one of their exhibits. the posted this on mother's day. quote, the national women's history mu sooe y um is
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steven noted survivors of other unimaginable crimes. every day that you have lived, every child and grandchild that your families have brought into this world has served as the ultimate rebuke to evil and the ultimate expression of love and hope and you are an inspiration to every single one of us. on behalf of all of us, thank you for the example of your lives and sharing your stories with us in the world. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was president obama last night speaking at steven spielbe spielberg's shoa foundation, which documents the stories of holocaust survivors. there's a reminder as to why it's so important that survivors share their stories with the world. because believe it or not. there are teachers in america who are actually encouraging debate about whether the
holocaust ever took place. the rialto unified school district gave its eighth grade students perhaps the most disturbing, ignorant essay assignment imaginable this spring. when tragic events occur in history, there's a debate about their actual existence. for example, some people claim the holocaust is not an actual historical event but instead is a propaganda tool that was used for political purpose and monetary gain. based upon your research in this issue, write an argumentative essay in which you can explain whether or not you believe the holocaust was an actual event in history or merely a political scheme created to influence public emotion and gain wealth. after the district was criticized for that assignment, school board fishes who first defended that assignment, but the board later apologized. the associate dean recently
spoke at a rialto school board meeting. and with me is a special guest tonight, martin goldsmith, a journey of remembrance. he traces the root members of his own family took as they tried to flee the holocaust and were subsequently taken to au auschwi auschwitz. his grandfather and uncle beth perrished there at that death camp. i want to start with the bad news then a get to this excellent book by martin goldsmith. rabbi, tell me about this -- what was your reaction when you heard about the fact that school kids were given an open question arnt parentally, was there a holocaust. >> well, actually, chris, first offal all, amen to what the president said last night about survivors and the unique role they play with young people in terms of giving hope and guidance for the future. the actual reality was a lot worse. it wasn't just one teacher. there were five teachers who collaborated on this project.
there was someone within the district curriculum who reviewed it. we still don't know if this was just the ultimate stupidity or something worse. but 2,200 eighth graders in rialto were given 18 pages to look at, told to quote reliable documentation, which was quote, unquote, provided. anne frank was a hoax. stuff down loaded from hate sites. maybe it was supposed to be designed for critical thinking, but what it did was elevated hate with historic fact. and maybe one of the good news i reported to you, there was another call that was down there last night. thankfully, we still have a few holocaust survivors and they'll be there to give a human face,
the human touch to these unbelievable statistics. to humanize what happened after the holocaust is important. >> this will allow a person to come to their own conclusion, current events are part of the basis for measuring iq. the middle east, israel, palestine and the holocaust are on newscasts discussing current events, teaching how to come to your own conclusion based on the facts to test your position, be able to articulate that position then depend your belief with a lucid argument is essential to good citizenship. martin, i've watched for years when people who are jewish go on c-span even and you get this reaction from crazy people. anybody who reads these follow-up comments online. the anti-semitism is out there. but here teachers saying that's one point of view.
>> exactly. it's astounding. and my grandfather and uncle were two of the 6 million, two of the 1.1 to 1.5 million people murdered 234 auschwitz. i was outraged when i heard about this. you went back and just for your own human need went back and retraced how people who were in your family on the st. louis that was sent back from america, sent back from cuba, ending up in three-quarters of the cases going to the death camp. >> exactly right. my grandfather alex goldschmidt, helmut goldschmidt, more than 200 refugees turned away first from cuba then the united states, then canada. the ship sailed back to europe. my grandfather and uncle got off the boat in france, spent the next three years in various french concentration camps before being shipped to their deaths in auschwitz in 1942. three years ago, my wife and i retraced their steps beginning
in the small lore saxony village where my grandfather was born in 1879, going to all the places in france they were held and hitting in the polish city where auschwitz is. >> that's important to go back, tell the human story of a guy like this who i've been listening to on radio, classical music. somebody you know says look, my family, i went back and traced it. it happened in human terms. we know they have all the names in israel of people who were killed. but these people keep -- >> from 5.5 million visitors to the museum of tolerance. young people want to know the truth. they will identify with the message. sometimes they have more common sense than the adults in the room. but when you have teemp, five of them, and an assignment on core things of teaching about critical thinking down loading hate material, you know, what's next? we monitor websites that say
harken back to the great old days of slavery and say blacks were better off then or the martin luther king website that's put up by white supremists that denigrate. we should be using the hate materials to teach critical thinking, not legitimatizing the hate message to young minds. it really was a disastrous dpigs on the ground. and we'll take care of the young people that went through this, but i sure hope the rialto school district will take a hard look in the mirror. something is very broken there.
>> some holocaust deniers say give me a chance i'll finish the job. and then tler other biogots who say i don't want to deal with what happened. those people are in some way more dangerous. >> the great irony is i think the government of germany has, as a country, i was just over in berlin with my wife, you see the way they've recognized it with berlin with that encredible memorial to the horror. and at least they're doing that over there now. anyway, thank you. rabbi and my new friend albert goldschmi goldschmidt. it's a great human story. it really is a great story about going back and -- it's a road picture, if you will, of a man tracing a tragedy. it's a great book to read. hey there can i help you?
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the preface of the tenth anniversary paper back edition of tim's book about his dad, "big russ & me." i know why i loved my dad. he was my best friend. but now years after his death, i often wonder why the guy who threw around games, made me laugh and recite vocabulary cards. my dad could relate to anyone. luke russert is nbc's congressional correspondent and joins me right now. luke, it's great. >> thanks for having me. >> first of all the book was great. if luke russert -- tim russert had not been a star of our immediate wrum, of news gathering and news analysis this book still would have been great. what's great about it, you have come far because you've done all of this in your youth. but your dad came from a regular family, working-class family. his father was a garbage man. and what i love -- in fact, we were talking how we're careful with our garbage now.
we always make sure the senior producer and i agree, we make sure personally because of this book never to leave sharp objects in the hefty bags because they cut the hands are or the guys. >> the garbage guys. >> the moment that got to me in this book -- you have to read this book -- is the emotional moment when tim is riding around in a garbage truck with his dad. and even though that's not the most celebrated job in the world, the pride he had in being with his dad. >> it's something that resonate ed so vividly with him. and i remember my father often talking about how he was able to interview popes and presidents. but some of his proudest memories were, in fact, on that garbage truck with my grandfather. and one of the things he documents in the book he learned the val you you of hard work on the back of that garbage truck, and that he knew for a fact after he did it for a summer there's no way he could have lasted the dozens and dozens of years my grandfather did it. one he especially poignant mome my father decides he's going to
go on to college and graduate school and succeed, it's the last day in the garbage truck he takes off his uniform and throws in the back and the guy riding says you'll be back soon enough. he says, no, i'm not coming back. i have to get out of here. my grandfather is very supportive of that but wanted him to know the meaning of hard work, the meaning of what would happen if you flunked out. it was remarkable. >> when i complain about a writing assignment late at night, i think how hard my dad worked. i can do it. your dad was driven, driven to get the answers. he was like an irish cop if in the interrogation room. finding out the answer. i watched him on "meet the press." he would come in with that m manila folder. he would keep it aside. during the interview he'd open up with the real question, david duke, why did you hate america so much that you joined the nazi party? and there was no answer. or you say the three biggest job producers are the issue and he had no idea who they were. >> what his method was, he
learned in law school. he was prosecutorial. his idea was nobody was going to outresearch him. he would read constantly. he would read at work. he would read at home. he would have mounds and mounds and mounds of research. tons of legal briefings, if you will. and he would read it all, and he would anticipate ten steps ahead from whatever answer his guest would give. oftentimes you see now, you come forward as a host -- and i've been guilty of doing it as well and i'm sure you are. you have three or four thoughtout questions and you don't listen clearly enough to the response his guest was giving. he was an aggressive listener and would sometimes throw away his preprepared questions. excuse me, what you said is spin. the reason i know i read all these documents. >> this follow-up is key. of all the time, the best question comes out of the last answer, which is true. i could do it all day. i'm here to sell the book. i think it's a great personal story about america. >> this is. it's a story of growing up.
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let me finish tonight with this insidious plan to scare up right-wing voteders and scare off the votes the of those who tend to vote democratic. this is just the kind of campaign mentality that leads to trouble on the part of those who pursue it. everyone knows the republicans
are heading for a good election night this november. they are poised to win the senate. poised, at least, and to pick up five to ten seats in the house of representatives. you know it. they know it. believe me, smart democrats know it. so why this plan to roll up the score are to bring out the crazies on the right and drown out 0 the progressives including many minorities who will be intimidated by the new republican pushed voter laws. i've watched how exactly this kind of stuff blows up in your face. it did with richard nixon in 1950 when he called his senator opponent pink right down to her underwear and when he took a sure win for re-election and turned it into watergate. the trouble with nasty politics like the kind we're getting from the house leadership is it makes you look nasty. it makes it look like you're moneygrubbing on the debts of those four american depp mats, like you're ready to kill a little more faith in government to get a few more votes. it's a rotten deal, and the people who play it will pay for it. maybe not this year but in the years to come.
we look forward to seeing that kick off. that's going to do it for a wednesday edition of "way too early." "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ the top democrat in the u.s. senate majority leader harry reid has now mentioned the bill nra koch brothers this year more than 140 times. >>er in in it to make the money. an attempt to buy our democracy. it's dishonest, deceptive, farce and unfair. >> it is wrong. incorrect. [ laughter ] erroneous. [ laughter ] >> even the keystone debate, mr. president, they're one of the main owners of all that stuff up there. that ugly tar stuff in canada. they are, if not the largest, second largest owner of that stuff up there. [ laughter ] good morning.
hey will. >> good morning, it's wednesday, may the 14th, on set, along with me, we've got joe here that's here. >> that's all. >> msnbc. >> it's a good show, right? >> yes. >> you can't always predict who is going to be here. >> it's exciting. >> it's interesting, it remains the name of the show. mike barnicle is here. former communications director for george w. bush, nicolle wallace. >> jon stewart went in last night. and landed another blow right here. >> this guy spent millions fighting online gambling. tens of millions fighting organized labor. in the 2012 presidential election he gave $90 million to republican candidates. perhaps because he thought he would help him take on quote,
radical islam and unions. yeah, that's right. laugh harry reid is going to crush this guy. >> so don't pick on him. >> wait? sorry, what did you say there? don't pick on the billionaire that puts money in politics. >> he's not in this for money. he's in it because he has certain ideological views. [ laughter ] >> what the [ bleep ] difference does that make? [ laughter ] what are his ideological objections to online that the largest gambling casino has? >> i can't tell overt internet who is under age. i can't tell whose got financial difficulties. i can't tell who is not gaming responsibly. >> but if you come to my casino -- [ laughter ] you don't enter without answering a very detailed
financial solvency questionnaire. >> if you lost john stevens, you lu lost everything. he didn't make a distinction between the koches and the adelsons. >> and also speaking of "daily show" skits, let's continue with news about karl rove. karl rove is dullinging down that hillary clinton should be prepared for scrutiny about her health if she decides to run in 2016. the republican strategist pushed back who claimed he openly claimed the former first lady had brain damage. he said, of course, she doesn't have brain damage. still, it's pretty clear where he's trying to aim voters' attention. >> my point was, if hillary clinton were going to run for president, but she would not be
human if this didn't enter into consideration. this will be a topic in the 2016. they will be 69. she will be 77 if she serves two terms and this ends up being an issue. >> clinton's spokesperson blasted rove's remarks saying hillary clinton has recovered 100% from the blood clot from 2012. a republican and the white house getting involved as well. >> this was not clever. this wasn't an insinuation. this was karl rove running head first into a brick wall. nothing drives people away from a decent office than this kind of attack. they say why would i put my family through this. it weakens -- in both parties, it weakens the fabric of both. >> here's what i say about cognitive capacity, that dr. rove might have been the last person on election night to recognize and acknowledge that
the president won re-election in the state of ohio. we'll leave it at that. >> go back to the newt gingrich comment it weakens the fabric. that's tough talk coming from newt. we go fresh off the thrilla in manila. we'll let you be the one around the table to defend karl rove this moraning. he didn't say brain damage -- >> he said she was wearing a kind of glasses that were associated with severe brain trauma or something like that. >> which i find this fascinating because she wore coke bottle glasses in college. you have ever seen those pictures of hillary in the late '60s and early '70s? what's karl thinking? >> i think she couldn't wear her
sunglasses, she they gave her a pair of glasses. >> she was wearing the same style four years ago and her traumatic brain injury didn't get in the way of being the most successful secretary of state in history. >> let me try to explain karl. what karl -- >> let me try to explain karl. >> hey, i feel different. karl didn't just stumble into this line of questioning about hillary clinton's health, okay? he's one of the most prepared and deliberate speakers. and when he gave speeches at the white house, people were always doing -- you know, reading research. so this karl's nature, is that things are talked through. he plans these types of thing. >> so are you telling me that he thought through this before saying this? >> well, i think he thought
through and is probably, you know, maybe not in front of -- >> what's his strategy? >> well, i think injecting questions about her health crisis from a few years ago is something that karl thinks is fair game. and i think that the fact that we're having a three-day conversation about hillary's age and health, he is in this objective. >> it's not about hillary's age and health. it's about whether karl rove suffered brain damage. >> well, to some. but some of the people that may be thinking about 2016 have definitely given some thought to -- >> she is giving it all she has. >> that's all i've got. >> karl rove -- you know what -- >> can we go back to jon stewart, is there anything else? >> you gave us an ending. >> i mean -- >> listen, katrina was easy compared to this.
>> well, when you rebecome president, you release the results of your colonoscopy. >> you know what karl was trying to do. >> if she becomes president, there will be countless discussions, over the years she will release her -- >> this comes directly from the stupid part of it you're talking about. ronald reagan got inaugurated at 69. when he starts at 69 and leads at 77, i think about ronald reagan. that's not a bad thing. >> there anything that they can device to try and diminish hillary clinton, they're going to use brain damage, benghazi, boko haram now. that's what this is. >> that's all this is. >> jim peters -- go ahead. >> i was going to follow up on what nicole was saying, she's exactly right, this is not
accidental. hillary's health is something that democratic strategist have been whippering about for about a year now, when they talk about what can ruin her candidacy, it's always a question of her health. here's a case of the most public visible case really spilling out into the open. now, one thing i think this is not, and you've heard some of this chatter over the last couple of days, i don't think this is sexist. i think you would have had these questions come up about biden. >> it's ageist. >> nicholl, remember i told you, they released that ad, how many houses did john mccain have? well, he can't quite remember. >> that was an attack against his family wealth and his age. >> and his age, right. >> these questions were going to come out, anyway. i think the question is whether or not karl rove has temporarily taken it off the table by being
so crass about it. >> but the other thing that shouldn't get lost, it is interesting, look at how the clintons respond. their first response is pretty funny. she's 100%. but they escalated throughout the day to near hysteria through the end of the day, whoever gave the initial response should be given the job of rapid response and whoever gave the second or two should be the understudy. >> for people that don't sit around sets like this or don't talk to journalists, there have been questions off camera, speculation. i only say this because jerry was talking about republicans. it wasn't just republican a lot of reporters were worried about her health. of course, they had absolutely no evidence whatsoever. they were worried. >> they were worried with justification after that fall. >> with some justification, it took her a while to come back
but it was speculation. and karl rove didn't help himself and he didn't help the republican party by speculating like he did. >> when we get the results of all of these personal data, colonoscopies and everything else, i think we'll find out she's healthy as a horse. >> there you have it. >> marco is clarifying remarks? >> yeah, going back to the climate change remarks. senator rubio found himself the target of unwanted headlines after he recently entered the climate change debate talking at the national press club. the potential 2016 presidential contender tried to clarify remarks he made on sunday. here are the original remarks and what he had to say about them yesterday. >> i don't agree with the notion that some are putting out there including scientists that somehow that are actions that have is an impact on our climate. >> let me get this straight, you do not think that the human activity, the production of co2
is caution changes? >> i do not believe that human activity is causing changes the way the scientists are portraying. i do not propose the laws they pass will do anything about it. >> headlines notwithstanding, of course, the climate is changing because climate is always changing, that's a measurable you can see. there is climate change. i've never conceded that the climate is not changing. that's not the question before me as a policymaker. the question before me as a policymaker, is that if we ban all coal in the u.s., if we ban all carbon emission information the united states, will it change the dramatic changes in climate and the dramatic weather impacts that we're now reading about? and anyone that says that we will, it not being truthful. but for you to go out and say if you pass this bill that i am proposing this will somehow lead to us have less tornadoes and hurricanes, that's not an accurate statement. >> seems rational to me. >> listen, i may be out of step with my party on this.
i don't know where you have to live to think that the climate isn't changing dramatically. and miami is one of those places where they haven't seen dramatic change. it's not the same thing as acknowledging that climate change is real. >> i guess what's interesting about this, i'm not exactly sure who marco's audience is. he says he believes in climate change. i do believe, like he said, that we're not going to pass legislation they're going to stop tornados and hurricanes, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. and the left is -- >> but that's a defensible position. >> that is a more defensible position. but i'm just saying all the republicans i've talked to. and i've been talking to a lot of them for a very long time over the past four or five years, they believe in climate change, they believe that humans are responsible for climate change. the only thing they don't believe that the federal government could combat and
impose massive cut jacks because it makes extremist and trillion they'res. >> without getting china and other parts of the world that are doing more. >> they're doing more, actually. >> right. >> so in a time in the world, everybody is saying, steve, we'll go to you, we're going to be in competition with china for the next 100 years and china is going to outcompete us. at that time, we're supposed to usually disarm and let the chinese continue to damage the atmosphere more than us? and we're supposed to be worried about what tom steyer and other people say? i don't believe that. and even if we do what we do in that direction, without putting millions of americans out of work. >> i agree. first, the same people, the middle people, do want to have
some kind of coordinated change to climate change. >> they're so effective? >> the reason, nicole, they are not effective, if you're a country on your way up, and you don't have all the resources and you say, wait a minute, you guys have polluted the air for 200 years, don't i get a chance to pollute the air for a while while i'm economically developed. china, they don't have any clean energy. they have coal. and imported oil and really expensive natural gas and that's it. and they don't have any nuclear yet. so it's going to be very hard for them to do what they have to do, but he have to do it. and it thirdly, joe, there are policies, nonetheless, there are policies out there that we could put in place that would destroy millions of jobs that would put us on a path for a more responsive behavior. for example, we've not increased
the gas tax since 1983. the highway trust fund is going broke. we could raise the gas tax, rebate that to americans so it didn't cost jobs and get more balanced. >> jeremy peters on the hill, you look at polls, and i don't think climate change is at the top when it comes to intensity. i would suspect because of that we're not going to see another pass or do anything on the climate for quite some time. democrat stride in 2009. even the president was reluctant to get involved but they dragged him into that battle at the last minute. any legislation on the hill that marco rubio would have to be concerned about voting on before the election and the rest of the candidates? >> there was a bill that fell apart this week in the senate, an energy bill that was actually quite modest, the fact that it fell apart in a filibuster just shows how difficult it is to get even the smallest things through on climate. >> what -- well, you have your moderate democrats that like the
landrieus and others who do not support this legislation? >> no, it fell over keystone. there was a land mass that landrieu and bagich wanted to approve. the white house has not decided what it's going to do. and if it ultimately decides it's not going after this, they are going to wait until after the legislation to do that because they don't want it to hurt senators like begich and landreau. >> i thought it was fascinating having the canadian ambassador here last week. he kept doing the talking points that i thought came from the
koch brothers, i asked him where he got it, he said, oh, the state department study. >> our state department? >> our state department. >> this is one of the most widely overpoliticized decisions. >> a lot of very rich liberals don't want barack obama to pass this legislation. and what do they have to worry about? because they got millions and millions of dollars. it's just the 50,000 people that aren't going to have jobs because of it. i hope that makes you feel better. go to your yacht, polish it -- you won't polish it, you'll have somebody else polish it. that would be a really good paying job that makes you feel bad about yourself. have them buff your fingernails, too. coming up on "morning joe," we're going to be talking to senators rob portman and john tester about some of the most pressing issues in washington including the keystone pipeline and the controversy surrounding
the v.a. that's atrocious. and former yankee great willie randolph is going to be on set. and larry kudlow and joy reid. and miles nadal. former secretary time geithner is standing by. first, though, not fun, bill karins. >> across the country, just a crazy weather pattern. record highs on the coast. it's been snowing a couple days in colorado. how about this yesterday, it was 52 in boston. that was it. in d.c., it was 92. 40-degree swing in the northeast alone. this morning, we are tracking showers and a few storms up there around the capital district, albany, schenectady and troy. and albany you've got showers, pittsburgh, a shower or two. later this afternoon, cooler today in d.c. and baltimore than yesterday. this is where we should be this
time of year in the 70s. chance of storms from pittsburgh to buffalo. and how about out west. the drought is bad enough. now we're getting one heat wave an another. areas that don't see a lot. san francisco, san diego, 90s to 100 today. how about this for l.a., 101 today. 100 tomorrow. we finally cool it off by the weekend but the fire danger is really high. and in the middle of the country, i mean, it's cold. it's a chilly, cold morning. a lot of extremes out there. if we're going to get any tornadoes 0 are severe weather, we'll watch out for you from nashville to louisville, back up to the ohio valley. more "morning joe" when we continue. we'll be right back. ♪ when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here
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former u.s. treasury secretary timothy geithner. i'm sure they pull put u.s. treasury secretary. it could have been canada, luxembourg. but, no, this guy was former u.s. treasury secretary. he's out with a new book "stress test: reflections on financial crisis." wait wait to read this. i'm glad you finally got more people in the treasury department. let's start there. you had a couple of dogs wandering the hallways the first year. it was actually hard. that was a challenge. >> you could hear the echoes of footsteps. >> you had. but that first year, it was so shocking to us that you were going through the financial crisis of our lifetime and you couldn't get staffed. you. >> we had great people, we really did. >> i know you had great people. it took you a while, though.
what was the challenge? don't say you had great people again. you didn't just win the nfl -- okay, the super bowl. talk about the tough start. >> well, the world was burning still. remember, in january '09, the country was falling off the cliff, complete was shrinking at the rate of 9%. we had already put trillions of dollars in the financial system, but things were still frozen or falling apart. >> right. >> we had to find a way how to right the ship, how to land a plane safely. yeah, we had challenges. >> off the top, steve ratnor. >> ratnorwas fabulous. >> obviously, this book has ignited talk about what happened. different points of view, left, right, all that stuff. looking back, i think the central concern people have is
did we do too much for the banks? did we give them too much money, too cheaply, not fire enough ceos, more pain from the share 408der, more pain from the executives who got bonuses. how do you feel about that? was there stuff that could have been done differently, i know you had legal constraints but wasn't there something that could can be done differently? >> i think the huge damage done by the crisis and all the bad people that caused the crisis, they say, really, seriously, you couldn't bring a tougher measure of justice more quickly for people. but that was a classic panic. we were risking the great depression. and the first challenge was to land the plane safely. once we landed the plane, we moved quickly to try to clean up the system and bring a much better response. it's true, you could look back and say, was it tough enough on
them? but the first obligation, the most important obligation was to protect the risk of massive unemployment, a great depression. we did that, it wasn't messy, but we did that effectively. better than any government has in the last 100 years in a financial crisis. >> you write about being handed talking points by a white house official -- >> it was actually my treasury colleague. >> i'm not trying script you but suggesting messages that you had a pretty visser ral negative reaction to. i certainly have been in the position that they may have been in of wanting a cabinet secretary to echo a message. seeing it from your perspective -- i know you worked with some of my former colleague in the bush administration. you can talk about how political your job got and how difficult that was? >> i think one of the most important tests of government in a crisis is the ability to put policy above politics. >> it's impossible, isn't it? >> no, it's not.
in fact, i think that was a great moment for the united states. if you look at that moment, you know, the transition between a republican and a democratic president, you know, the world at the edge of a great depression. you had two presidents with bipartisan support, mostly from democrats at that point. basically put politics aside. and do what's necessary to help pull the country back from the abyss. it was a pretty big moment. >> with the t.a.r.p. and all of that? >> with the first to break the back of the panel. then the stimulus to put money back in the hands directly of the american people. and then the range of the financial system. i got a pretty good test of government at a terrible time. and we passed that test much better than other governments who sat there, were paralyzed by their politics. or played politics with the crisis. a pretty good moment for the bank. >> you mentioned in january 2009, we were on the brink. that was a term we heard a lot.
the country's about to go over the cliff in the fall of 2008. what does that mean explicitly and specifically? i mean, what would have happened if we hadn't taken that step back? >> take a look at the great depression, there's no memory of it. you know, people didn't live through it. but in the great depression, unemployment went to 25%. and gdp fell by 25%. and it took a decade to try to get back to some measure of security for people. and that's because we allow it as a country, a financial panic torsion escalate and bring the system to collapse. and why does that happen, it's like the lights going out. it's like the power not functioning. if the company can't get oxygen, people can't borrow and businesses fire people on a brutal scale and people are trying to protect themselves. that produces a certain set of conditions, panic leads to crash. that's why it's so damaging. and then, of course, they have massive innocent victims in that
content. >> so how close were we? >> right at the edge. paulson wrote he thought we were three days away from the atms not working. people were talking about burying gold in their backyards. you could hear panic and fear in the voice of the leaders of the world and largest corporations at that time. >> mika does that. unrelated to the economy. jeremy peters is in washington, "the new york times" has got a question for the secretary, mr. secretary. >> mr. geithner, one of the prime takeaways of this book is just how complicated your relationship with larry summers is. he promoted you to various senior positions. he was your mentor. and as you know, the president was strongly considering him for chairman. federal reserve, twice, actually. do you think that president obama made a mistake by not picking him? >> no, i think that janet yellen
is going to be excellent. i watched her make judgments at a very complicated time. and i think she's going to be an excellent chairman. i have just huge respect for larry summers, i think month more talented person in the country. henry kissinger said about larry summers, you should give him a permanent office in the oval office to vent any idea. he's a great person to work for. he's a pretty challenging, demanding guy. i used to say, what matters is the ratio between the thrill and the torture. and with larry, the thrill was -- >> higher? >> -- much greater than the torture. >> a couple issues before we wrap it up, one, what you had to say about elizabeth warren's hearing. she said she were made for youtube hearings, sort of show trial, explain. >> well, that was sort of a
gentle way to put it. >> like they were witchhunt, talk about that? >> i've got a lot of respect for her. >> it doesn't sound like it. >> i do. she did a great job in standing up with the agency and protecting from a form of abuse. she was excellent. there's a lot of oversight process. >> what made them show trials? >> well, you know, people didn't like what we were doing. it was unpopular stuff. it was essential, necessary stuff, very effective stuff but it was deeply offensive to people. it looked like we were giving money to the arsonists. the core paradox of what it takes to break a financial panic to keep the lights on. and there are going to be collateral beneficiaries of that. and that's deeply offensive. she gave a lost voice to that concern and she was very eloquent in making that case. >> speaking of arsonists, a
handful of banks still control 50%. too big has gotten even big. >> you're right, you always worry about too big to fail. and this is something we should always worry about. it's like a federal war. you should be on it. >> the big bank's concern, still approaching 50%? >> well that's not the way to think about it. that risk for the country is say much lesser risk today because of reforms we put in place. i'll give you examples. we mate capital requirements -- the limits on risk much, much more conservative than they were before the crisis. >> why? >> we had much better tools to put banks on the line when they screw up. >> let's say -- they're not going to because they've strengthened. let's say citi has a crisis, we're bailing them out or do we let citi fail? >> we're in a much better
position to let them fail that doesn't do too much damage. >> was it a mistake not to save lehman brothers? >> it's not like financial security. we don't give presidents a set of tools to react. we don't do that because of other concerns. we don't want to leave the market with expectation. >> if you could do it all over again, would you? >> if we had the authority -- >> with the authority, would you save lehman brothers? >> you don't want to save everybody in a financial crisis. it's a mistake to do that. you have to make sure you do -- we didn't have this authority until after the panic. we want to make sure we can protect the rest from the failure of the rest. you want to make them fail -- to use a different metaphor, you want to draw a fire brig around
the couordinates. >> should they have been saved? >> in retrospect, with full knowledge at that time, what we should have done, we would have escalated much more quickly to prevent the panic from spreading. of course, now, we ultimately did that, but it took a lot more work because the fire was burning too hot at that point. >> all right, tim geithner, thank you so much for coming in. >> thank you, nice to see you guys. >> the book is "stress test: reflections on the financial crisis." you can read exempts on our website mojo/msnbc.com. >> first, americans are hitting the bottle harder than ever before, we'll explain why in your morning papers and "morning joe" sports next.
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all right. let's take a look at some of the morning papers. "the wall street journal" crews, are racing to save hundreds of miners after a deadly accident in turkey. at least 201 people are dead with more than 200 others still trapped deep underground. almost a mile under there.
the coal mine is located in the town. soma, about 150 miles from istanbul. nearly 800 people were in the mine when a fire triggered an explosion. the fire is under investigation. two children are recovering from serious injuries after a gust of wind swept away one of those bouncy houses. >> my son loves those. >> oh, my gosh. >> this is that bouncy house that parents like myself. >> and me. >> and you. have been putting in your yards for your young kids' birthday parties. three children were playing inside one of these bouncy houses when it was ripped from its stakes and sent it flying high in the air. a witness took this photo that we were showing. you one child escaped with only minor injuries. >> look at that. >> look how high those three little children are up inside that bouncy house. one escaped with no injuries.
another boy has some broken bones after falling 15 to 20 feet in a parking lot. while the third has a serious is head injuries after landinging on a car. this is horrifying. terrifying. >> horrific. >> they're usually staked down when you see them in the yard. but maybe that's not strong enough when the wind picks up. from the parade of papers the san francisco chronicle, google wrote the global web of dominance got more difficult. the right to be forgotten. meaning google can be forced to erase links to content about individual people on its search engines. that includes documents. >> the quote, other documents, very important for mike barnicle. if there's ever going to be a senior staffer for elizabeth warren, he will not pass through the background check. >> that's correct. >> because of the quote, other
documents. >> other documents that are in mike barnicle's computer main frame. >> your confirmation are going to be interesting. >> legal experts say this decision will only impact operations in europe and citizens of the e.u. and from the l.a. times, army sergeant kyle white is the latest recipient of the congressional medal of money for this heroism in afghanistan in 2007. white was honored for his actions for his ambush where he helped other soldiers and maintained radio contact all while injured. some were present at the ceremony. he's the seventh living recipient for a medal of honor for actions in iraq and afghanistan. sergeant white is going to be joining us in the studio on monday. >> can't wait to meet him. the telegraph, the united states has become the world's biggest consumer of wine, all right, passing france for the first time in history. >> that's something to be proud of, right. >> a new study said wine
drinking continues to climb at a record pace, meanwhile, the popularity of wine is fading in france. u.s. consumers bought 2.9 billion liters of wine. still, the average frenchman drinks six times more wine than the american. so per capita was trailing behind. we got to get to work on that. willie, nba playoff action. >> a wild one between the clippers and thunder. let's go to the fourth quarter. okc had been down about 13 points with four minutes left. kevin pierce. and durant on the break lays it in. a two-point game. clippers quick inbound to chris paul. he turns it over. no foul called. the ball ends up out of bounds. this one is reviewed. and in a controversial call, the thunder get the ball back. so 11 seconds to play. another controversial call.
russell westbrook of oklahoma city is fouled shooting a three. he hits all three foul shots. the thunder take a 105-104 lead. with six seconds on the clock, chris paul is stripped. he loses the ball again. the thunder come back for a 105-104 win. and a 3-2 series lead. clipsers head coach doc rivers was steaming after the game. >> that's our ball. we win the game, and we got robbed because of that ball. it's clear, everybody in the arena saw it everybody was shocked when they said oklahoma city. that was our ball. we got two more games to play. but that could be a series-defining call. and that's not right. >> wow, that's pretty strong. the series goes back to l.a. society clippers get a chance to even the series back there. the wizards blew out the pacers. they were on the brink of
elimination. 102-79. it's coming back to d.c. tonight, the nets fight for their lives in miami. miami can close that out, and the spurs can do the same against the blazers. >> what about the rangers, down 3-1. >> 3-1 in the series come all the way back against the mighty pens. a couple of good one in the stanley cup playoffs. blackhawks and wild in game six. and the rangers and penguins in a huge game seven. >> and he scores! patrick kane, one hand, and chicago is headed to the western conference final. >> carried back off the wing and worked on by mcdonough. swatted on the cross. score! and the rangers are going to the conference final. >> rangers come all the way back down, 3-1 in the series to win game seven. they'll face the winner of tonight's other game seven
between the canadiens and the bruins. the blackhawks will face the winner of the ducks/kings. that series is tonight. >> can the bruins do it, mike? >> yes, they can. >> well, those are two evenly matched teams. it's go to be a great game. there will be fights tonight. >> if you can get boston and new york in the conference finals. still ahead from "morning joe" from the men who brought you freakonomics. and at 7:00, magic strikes back. he's heard enough from donald sterling. his reaction. he says enough is enough. we'll be right back on "morning joe." [ brian ] in a race,
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she's faxed them from the south of france. "the wall street journal" -- >> did she bury her gold in the south of france or westchester county, what do you think? >> put it evenly. >> you never know when the people are going to rise up. i mean if marie antonette had buried her gold in two different places she might still be with us. >> "the wall street journal" editorial board writes this. harry reid has essentially shut down the senate as a place to debate and vote down policy. he's refused to vote on on all but nine amendments since july. mr. reid is worried some of those amendments might pass with support from democrats, thus embarrassing a white house that opposes them. not too long ago it was understood that any senator could get a floor vote if he wants it. the minority party, often democrats, used this right of amendment to sponsor votes that would sometimes put the majority on the spot.
it's called politics. rightly understood, this meant the senate debated national priorities and worked its bipartisan will. >> jeremy peters, i've been about cushion harry reid for a couple years, what's with this "wall street journal" editorial? >> i think often when you're talking outrage along these lines, it's often a little bit stronger when you are the person who is on the brunt of the perceived injustices. >> right. >> and in this case, i think that's what's happening with "the wall street journal." i doubt that they would be crying so loudly if this were republicans and not a democrat. >> but, jeremy, we heard a thousand stories about those terrible republicans that won't pass democratic leases of legislation through the house. the question is can republicans fairly make -- and i'm not leading you here, i'm curious, can we not fairly make the aim argument about harry reid not
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a lot going on in congress yesterday. there was a hearing. i mean, there's so much going on, boom, boom, boom. >> real quick, there's a snake in the bathroom at texas a&m. a 12-foot rock python. came in through the back door. a little control and a bucket to get rid of it. it was an aggressive one. it was somebody's pet who got loose. >> it happens. it happens. willie, you were talking about it yesterday on the judiciary committee hearing. >> were you watching that? >> i actually was. >> very clean people. i was on the judiciary committee. very clean people.
hungry people, but a clean people. >> but those hearings are long. >> you get hungry. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to thank you and member connors for your willingness to work to make progress on this issue, and in making sure that other surveillance cannot be used in a similar way. i'm pleased this be addressed in the amendment. >> take a look, willie, on the right, a lot of ear wax, this happens. >> check it out. >> oh, my god. >> wax smeared on the teeth. >> seconds, anyone? >> oh! >> oh. oh, oh -- ear wax. that's disgusting. >> who eats it? >> it's awful. >> enjoy your breakfast. >> oh! that's awful. >> republican or democrat, joe
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♪ jews, when they get successful, they will help their people. and some of the african-americans, maybe i'll get in trouble again, they don't want to help anybody. [ laughter ] >> maybe? maybe you'll get in trouble again? [ laughter ] jews help blacks -- eww -- unless what he's doing is workshoping new material for
donald sterling literally comedy jam. jeremy peters with us. and with us from washington, nbc news correspondent and host of "the daily rundown" chuck todd. winning columnist and associate editor of "the washington post" and msnbc political analyst, eugene robinson. we're going to talk in two seconds about the sterling controversy. but, chuck todd, we had a lot of elections last night. a lot of races. a couple have stood out. what are your thoughts? >> well look, it's a generational change in nebraska. this is a couple of young guys taking over the nebraska republican party. pete ricketts tried to run for the senate a few years back now is a heavy favorite to be governor. and ben sass. i think what's unique about sass, a lot of groups are saying, hey, we want a race, we want a race. but the establishment is split in this race. >> now, sass went after mitch
mcconnell a way back. >> he did. this is about mcconnell. but paul join was for sass. i had sass on my show yesterday. he said he'd vote for mcconnell as leader. she'd try to put an end to that. i think he's going to be a little moron johnson than he's going to be ted cruz. a lot of people are trying to figure out where is this guy going to fit on the senate. i'd put him more on the johnson side. >> he's now a big favorite to win state wide, right? >> slightly. absolutely. and shelly is a heavy favorite in west virginia. be west virginia's first republican senator in over half a century. but she is, dare i call this person a pro-government republican. they do exist, and that's about what you have to be ideologically in place like west virginia which actually likes federal dollars coming into the
state because she's going to be somebody like a murkowski, collins, the republicans that do a lot of bipartisan deals. >> sound goods. let's go straight now, the latest from sterling, some quotes that i can't believe. >> the earthquake of the sterling interview, the ripple effect continues because we're one day after donald sterling attacked magic johnson. the former laker star is fighting back. magic was dragged into when v. stevian know post evidence this image on instagram. it's a photo made public by tmz sports. and sterling told her not to bring magic johnson or any other african-americans to clippers games to that original racist rant that was made public. it was days ago that sterling went after magic again, this time for having hiv. >> what has he done? can you tell me? big magic johnson, what has he
done? >> he's a business person. >> whose got aids. did they do any business? did he help anybody in south l.a. >> i think it's hiv, it didn't focus on aids. >> what kind of a guy that has sex with every girl and then he catches hiv. is that something that we want to respect and tell our kids about? i think he should be ashamed of himself. what does he do for the black people? he doesn't do anything. >> here's a man who we would think would be educated. and a man who would -- is smart enough to build this type of wealth. he's reaching, he's trying to find on to something that's going to save his team. am i upset?
of course. but at the same time, i'm a god fearing man. i'm going to pray for him and hope that things work out for him. the problem is, he's living in the stone ages. he can't make those comments about african-americans and latinos. he just can't do it. >> gene, i don't know where to begin with the ignorant statements. let's leave hiv out of it and instead talk about the fact that for a very long time, magic johnson has focused on going into inner cities and creating economic development and bringing hope to the hopeless in a lot of african-american communities for some time. in fact, that's what i've associated him with over the past 10, 20 years. >> yeah, so many ignorant statements, so long time. it just shows how out of it and how divorced from reality donald sterling is. and i think sometimes invested certainly tens of millions of
dollars, i don't know if it's hundreds of millions of dollars into low-income communities across the country, created economic opportunity. he has walked the walk, in addition to talking the talk. and is the last person in the world that you would say such an ignorant and prejudice thing about. but there you go. that's donald sterling. that's the donald sterling we've come to know. and not exactly love. >> mike barnicle, how can this guy remain associated in the nba? i can't see any judge thinking that there's any way that he would have any standing, to have any part of any team? >> well, he can take them to court, certainly, but there's no way he's going to end up with the l.a. clippers at the end of this, with whatever litigation proceeds. i choose to go back to what is soon to be ex-wife reference last week when she said she
thought certainly that donald sterling was in the early stages of dementia. >> he's got to be. who would do that? >> it's possible, the racism goes back a bunch of years, guys. >> yeah. >> so it's not like this stuff wasn't buried down in there. maybe even his sensor is turned off. >> no doubt. there's no guard rail now, so he's going right off the cliff. >> it's insanity. and it's just -- i don't know -- i don't know how this guy, and we've asked this question before, thomas, how is this guy been allowed to be an owner since 1981, the nba had to know, had to know. well, they did know that he had racist tendencies. >> yeah, they had the largest judgment go against him for discrimination and a payout that he and his wife had to make based on discriminatory practices. so the nba does know what's
there. if they have something to leverage him out -- and he agreed, mike, as you point out, he knows what's in the laws of nba ownership. if they have majority of those owners saying he's got to go, he's got to go. that's something that he agreed to on the front end. and according to his work philosophy, if magic johnson made such a mistake and should fall into the background and never be heard from again, what's his problem? he's made such a horrendous mistake that he should drop off the face of the earth. >> obviously, he has nobody around him that can counsel him. and he's stumbling from one crisis to another. it's unbelievable. speaking of surprising, it's not quite along those lines. but karl rove is actually doubling down on the suggestion that hillary clinton should be prepared for serious scrutiny about her health should she decide to run for president in 2016. >> we've got the republican strategist that is pushing back
against the new york post head line. he questioned whether the former first lady may have brain damage. it's pretty clear where he's trying to aim the voters' attention. >> my point was, that hillary clinton wants to run for president, but she would not be human if this didn't enter into consideration. and my other point is this will be an issue in the 2016 race. whether she likes it or not. she'll be 69 by the 2016 election. and she'll be 79 if he ends up erving two terms. >> clinton's camp blasted back saying she's recovered 100% from a blot clot in 2012. it wasn't just clinton pushing back, a well-known republican and white house jumped into it as well. >> this wasn't clever, ant it wasn't insinuation. this was karl rove running into a brick wall. nothing drives decent people running away from public office
more than this type attack. it weakens the fabric of democracy. >> here's what i would say about cognitive capacity which is that dr. rove might have been the last person in america on election night to recognize and acknowledge that the president had won re-election, including the state of ohio, so we'll leave it at that. >> chuck todd, what's going on? i mean, i just don't understand why would karl rove bend over backwards to make hillary clinton look like a more sympathetic figure? >> i am curious. it's amazing the conspiracy those are i heard yesterday. rove did this, he's doing the old lbj here. make them deny that they have brain damage. throw it out there and then say, oh, i didn't say brain damage, brain damage, brain damage, you know, but i'm trying to get it into the ether. and then i've talked to other folks who say that rove truly
was sort of shell-shocked that that got out there. that wasn't what he meant. >> well, he didn't exactly spin it very well yesterday. >> and he didn't spin is very well, no. look, the fact is she's the same age, she's going to be the same age as reagan was. if you're going to go down this road and claim she's going to have health issues, and things of that nature, then you may have to be throwing your own guy, ronald reagan under the bus a little bit. so i think this is a dangerous, tricky road to go down. and as we saw, with rove, you go down this road, and you stumble down this road, i mean, i agree, at any point, any presidential candidate has deputy release their health records. i don't care if they're 45 or 70. at the end of the day, i think it's important, the american public wants to know, they want to make their judgment about who the running mate is, things like that. so that is fair game. but to sit there and say it only really applies to her.
and you go down that road, it's going to look a little sexist if you're not careful. and it's going to backfire. >> you obviously have known hillary for a very long time. and you're absolutely confident. while you said legitimate -- there are a lot of people legitimately concerned after her fall that she's doing fine. >> look, i think she's doing fine. you watch her during her time as secretary of state, all the travlgs all the wear and tear and meetings she did. yeah, she had a little health problem, but probably would the rest of us after what she went through. regardless of what rove was doing, it's clear what what he was doing. if somebody like joe biden decides he wants to be in the mix two or three years older than hillary, it's going to apply to him. senator marco rubio found himself the target after recently entering into a climate change debate. speak at the national press
club, the potential 2016 contender looked to clarify remarks he made sunday. here are the original markings and what he said yesterday. >> i don't agree with the notion that some are putting out there including scientists that somehow there are actions we can take today that would actually have an impact on our climate. >> let me get this straight you do not think that human activity, production of co2 has causing change? >> i do not believe human activity is causing changes to our climate. i do not believe the laws that they will pass will do anything about it. >> headlines notwithstanding i of course, the climate is incorporate challenging because the climate is always changing, that's a measurable you can see. i've never disputed that climate is changing. i pointed out that climate is always changing. it's never static. that's not the question before me ace policymaker. the question before me as a policymaker, if we ban all coal,
all carbon emission information the united states will it change the dramatic weather impacts that we're now reading jab and anyone who says that we will is not being truthful. but for me to go out and say if you pass this bill that i'm proposing this will somehow lead us to have less tornadoes or hurricanes, that's just not an accurate statement. >> there we have him cleaning up his language but former president gore speaking about the calculus around climate change. he's said it's not complicated and why candidates are carving out their positions now. >> they will face primary opponents financed by the koch brothers and others who are part of their group, if they even breathe the slightest breath of sympathy for the truth. >> sympathy for the truth. jeremy peters, let's talk to you about the whiplash effect that we're seeing from senator marco rubio. obviously what he had to say to jonathan karl did not go over
well at the national press club and he's giving a different answer on climate change. >> i think this is what happens when you're thinking about running in a republican primary at the same time trying to become a viable national figure. you have to say one thing that on the one hand doesn't alienate the base. in this case, the republican base doesn't want to hear that global warming is man-made or a serious problem. but on the other hand, the majority of americans feel this is a real issue and that it needs to be dealt with at a federal level. so you've also seen this pattern from other contenders. possible contenders for the republican nomination. remember what happened with rand paul when he came out and said that republicans need to stop talking about voter fraud. and voter i.d. he got slammed on the right, even though what he said, this is offensive, republicans need to be careful about the way they're talking about this. it's offending african-americans. yesterday, he walked those statements back, saying, well, i
didn't say -- i didn't say that these laws are a bad idea. all i was saying is that we need to not talk about them as much. a lot of times these guys are trying to have it both ways. >> chuck, off of what jeremy just said, potential candidates trying to have it both ways, not offending the base. karl rove's comments about hillary clinton. the base, not only the republican, but specifically, the republican base, where does this potential field of candidates go in appeasing the base, while perhaps alienate oeg they have a demographic problem anyway in this country. can they shoot the middle here? is there a middle for them? >> i don't know, they have a -- we talk about a demographic problem. i go back to the term and color phrase of 2013, this is a period of time where it's not exactly where the democratic party was in a great place in virginia. and he used climate change, he
used some of these issues. but climate change was one of them, to define his opponent as out of the mainstream. you won't believe what he said about this in suburban -- in a suburban part of the state. this is -- there is a sort of a suburban wing that used to exist of the republican party that's sort of pro-business. the old eisenhower, rockefeller republicans. the children of them are starting to vote democrat. not because they're enthusiastist perhaps about the democratic party but they're just -- they've gone all brian sullivan to reference that. but they go, wait a minute, what's going on over here? and they feel as if you can't have rational discussions about certain policy issues. and so that's the voter that they've also turned off in suburban america. and 2016, the clintons are very good at wooing suburban america. and climate change that can turn
off potential with right-leaning republicans. >> gene robinson, a fascinating story in the front page of "the washington post," your newspaper. you read the article, he has conservative challenge from the right in his district. there was this weekend, where cantor was booed by republican act that visits. quite a turn of events for a guy who was seen as the conservative alternative to john boehner just a year ago. what's going on? >> well he's in trouble. and it's hard to figure why or how. because he's gone so far out of his way to try to define himself as the more tea party-friendly member of the leadership. of the leadership duo. and the one who will, unlike john boehner was really with the tea party. now, he faces this challenge that seems to be getting serious. i mean, i don't know that -- i don't know that you can call him
in grave peril at this point. you know, look, the majority leader in the house in a safe district, isn't supposed to be in trouble at all. at this point of the cycle. and i think it shows something that's happening in general about the republican party through these primaries. even though the so-called establishment candidates are winning a lot of races. they didn't win last night in nebraska, particularly. but they're winning a lot of races. but the tea party is bringing the staekt farther to the right in some cases. cantore will probably be brought yet further to the right. this, i think, could present problems for the republican party in the general election. >> we shall see. all right. thank you so much, chuck todd, thanks. we're going to be watching "the daily rundown" at 9:00 a.m. eastern.
you guys go after it, right? >> the irrational middle, that's what america needs. angry middle. >> the angry middle. they saw it yesterday. gene, stay with us if you can. former yankee second baseman willie randolph is here to explain why the yankee way it's the way it is. and senator jon tester is here later this hour. up next, his energy bill was derailed by the controversial keystone pipeline. we're going to get senator rob portman's thoughts on that and much more. you're watching "morning joe." be right back. 0
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unfortunately, many americans live on the outskirts of hope. some because of their poverty. and some because of their color.
and all too many because of both. our task is to help replace their despair with opportunity. and this administration today, here and now, declares unconditional war on poverty in america. >> that's lyndon johnson 50 years ago, declaring a war on poverty. now with the republican senator from ohio, rob portman who has revealed his ideas for a conservative plan to take on poverty. thank you so much, rob, for being with us. >> you you bet. >> we thought it was an either/or. you have to be republican or you have to fight against poverty. what are your plans? paul ryan's been talking about a focus on poverty, too? what are we willing to do to help in this area? >> well, first, just the opposite you know, from
either/or. lyndon johnson just talked about opportunity, rather than despair. i mean, lieu technical economy today, joe, we're clearly at a point of despair, in the sense that poverty is up -- the rate of poverty is up. 47 million below the poverty line. we also have a weak economy coming out of a recession. the recovery is not adding hope and opportunity to the middle class, as well as people on the poverty line. so the question is, what do we do about it? i think there's two major things. one is, we need to grow an agenda. and you and i have talked about that, that includes transforming all of the economy, from the health care system to tax code regulations and so on. that's what jfk talked years before this. a rising tide lifts all votes. and second, even with a rising tide, people are going to fall through the cracks and end up on the shoals. we talked about prevention and
treatment and recovery. some of the models there, two decades ago, you and i worked on this issue of drug abuse from a republican perspective, but also a bipartisan perspective. i've done this with regard to prison re-entry with second chance. my point is there are ways to get at this with constructive conservatism because we know it would. >> if we're talking about this, i'm just pressing you a little bit here, if you came out and said i've got a plan to take on poverty and tax cuts, et cetera, et cetera, a lot of people are going to roll their eyes and say, well, that's the republican party we've been hearing about for 50 years. there has to be a spending component to it if you're going to get people's attention. are you and other republicans willing to invest in some of these programs to make a difference? >> yeah. i think we do. we invest in what works. i talked about yesterday, joe, of the fact that we should use federal funds to leverage local
and nonprofit private funds. this has happened with regard to the drug issue. the example i used was this legislation that was passed two decades ago that i offered that talks about how to get community coalition, started. it turns out there's like 5,000 coalitions that have been sparring for the act. it has to be funded at the local level. it involves the whole community coming together. the idea is it's not going to be solved from washington. also evidence-based approaches, i talked about the second chance and the fact that it requires that we use the best practices and the federal government has a big role to play there because some of the best research is done at the federal level. you can bring together best practices. you can go online and see the website it's called what works. >> gene robinson with "the washington post." >> senator portman, good to talk with you. >> thank you. >> does the republican party have any plans to address poor
people? to try to communicate with poor people on these issues and to try to sell a program that, frankly, does sound like what republicans have been say for a long time. and what a lot of team think has not worked. >> yeah, look, i don't think republicans have talked about this for a long time, john kennedy's admonition that a rising tide lifts boats. in a growing economy, some people will be left behind. i think we saw that in 1980, for instance. we saw that in the economy. and yet, ronald reagan actually talked about how do you deal with people who have drug addiction problems and therefore there are broken families and therefore there are problems. we need to get back to that. i specifically talked yesterday that you're not able to deal with some of the broken communities until you deal with drug addiction and the impacts, particularly, the impact that's
disproportionate on communities with the current war on drug which is i don't think is working. and secondly, the record number of people in prison and not dealing with them when they get out. 95% of them are going to get out. that's a conservative approach otherwise taxpayers are picking up the tab for two-thirds of those people getting back in the system. there are ways to deal with those things. >> i don't want to cut you off. we've got a lost people that want to get at you, rob. here's steve rattner. >> you had a couple references to kennedy's quote a rising tide lifts all boats. but it was a lot more than nap it was after his famous visit in 1960 when he in fact launched the war on poverty. launched what became head start. and your party was in the process of trying to cut all of those things. you of course voted against raising the minimum wage. i know you think costs jobs but
would raise 4 million or 5 million people out of poverty simply by getting them to $10.10 an hour. so what is wrong with those programs? >> steve, first of all, regarding the minimum wage, since you talked about that i strongly support programs that create jobs. i don't support raising the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour because it's going to create fewer jobs. the issue with regard to poverty isn't the minimum wage, with all due respect as much as it is about jobs. as you look at it, as you know fewer there been 0.3 of 1% of people are under minimum wage and under the poverty line. why? because most people under the poverty line need a job. it's not about the minimum wage, it's about a job. the problem about raising the minimum wage too fast and too high, you're going to eliminate jobs. the budget office has joined and said if you do what the president is proposing it will result in jobs being lost not gained. why not do things like making
the earned income tax credit work better. things that could affect work. i do support that in ohio. that would. i think states should be able to do that. i think we're getting off track on some of these political discussions. i know it's very popular, the minimum wage issue. again, ohio's got a higher minimum wage index. >> mike barnicle. >> senator, these are admiral goals but how do you attack poverty in this country when many members of your party have voted to cut food stamps. they've voted to repeal health care, you talk about a rising tide lifts all boats. how do you talk about a rising tide that lifts boats still filled with the hungry and rising ill-health? >> i do believe that the rising tide theory is important. in fact, i think it's necessary. you got to have a stronger economy. you've got to have growth. there are five or six things that we should do immediately to
get the economy moving again. dealing with health care costs. and the competitive global economy. we've got to do a much better job really reforming all of our institutions of our country as other countries have done when we have not. my point is that's not enough. it's not sufficient. the question is how do you come up with ways that are practical, i call it constructive, to actually look at what's worked. and deal with the issues. i don't believe it's going to happen from washington alone. by the way, lyndon johnson said that later in that same speech which is this is not going to happen in washington, it's going to happen in the field. it's going to happen in private homes in public lawsuits from the courthouse on up. he even acknowledged this is not something that's going to happen in washington. but washington has an important role to ply. that's what i tried to lay out in my speech yesterday. >> rob, thank you for being with us. senator rob portman. tomorrow morning on the show, glenn greenwald is going to join us on his new memoir on braying
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recovering from serious injuries after a gust of wind swept away a bouncy house. you can see the image there. three kids were actually playing inside. >> hey, you can guys take down the lower third. and go back to that other shot. i want to put a perspective how high this thing went. yeah, go back to the next shot. just right there. >> wow. >> look how -- >> oh, my god. >> -- how high three little children are inside that bouncy house that we've all had, if we have kids. nicolle, you can't even look at it. >> my 3-year-old loves that. >> three little kids. we've all had these at birthday parties, right our kids have all done them at birthday parties. and apparently, it was staked down. >> it had been staked down, joe, you're right. this gust of wind came along and blew it up 50 feet in the air. this gives perspective of where the ground is and cars parked
nearby. one child escaped with only minor injuries but another boy has broken bones after falling 15 to 20 feet in the parking lot nearby. while the third has a serious head injury after landing on a car. heartbreaking for the parents. it's just a simple toy that a lot of parents book for birthday parties for their kids. >> my kids aren't going in one of those. >> yeah. >> if parents that don't want them anymore, there's there's a good reason. >> i'm done with the tent. >> unless the stakes go down 40 feet to -- >> to aquifer. >> oh, my gosh, that's horrible. thomas, what's coming up in the 8:00 hour? >> all right. a big hour coming up how to think like a freak. >> that's what i'm talkin' about. >> that's what i'm talking about. >> the men behind the book
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back from iraq and the injuries to the vets are pretty intense, especially the ones we can't see. i think the v.a. is doing a pretty good darn job. that being said, if one veteran dies because somebody screwed up on a wait-list, that's far too many. >> first of all, i've got to say, there are a lot of veterans that would take exception to you saying, quote, the v.a. is doing a pretty good job. if you think the v.a.'s doing a pretty good job. i think you may be one of people in washington, d.c. that think that v.a. is doing a good job, but maybe one of the few people in america who believe that. >> i couldn't disi agree with you more. i've been around the state of montana. i've talked to veterans for the last eight years. and i'm not a veteran. i've talked to veterans. and i can tell you almost truly without exception they truly appreciate the v.a. is it perfect? absolutely not. does it need to be improved? absolutely. we need to work on it, especially when it comes to
mental health issues. but overall, i will tell you that the v.a., and i'd know it's in vogue right now to politicize everything that's going on with the v.a. but the bottom line is, we need to get to the bottom of this, we need to find out if there's wrog doing and hold people responsible. >> it's not in vogue with all due respect, senator, there's been a waiting list that's been extraordinarily long. an you've got parts of the v.a. that are actually cooking the books. and possibly killing veterans. >> we need to get to the bottom of that. but i will tell you, the waiting list, we knew was coming. it was coming. and i can tell you that this secretary has reduced it by 45%. that being said, it's being increased by 45%, too. because we're having veterans come home from iraq and afghanistan as we wind these wars down. and i think it's good we're winding these wars down but we've got to be realistic. the fact is, the waiting list is too long. secretary shinseki has made it a priority. and he's worked hard at it. and he needs success.
in the meantime, what has congress done? well, we've had sequestration and shutdowns and anything but certainty to the v.a. so when we see politicians badmouthing the v.a., they're pointing a finger at the v.a. and three back at themselves. >> that's bad mouthing the v.a. paul reichoff is bad mouthing the v.a. he's not a politics. and there are are millions of other veterans for some reason don't share your rosy scenario of the v.a. >> let me tell you, the v.a. has plenty of room to improve. but they do plenty of things right, too. i think if we want to focus on the negative and we don't want to focus on ways to improve the v.a., then we'll be right where we are right now. asking for resignations when we don't have all the facts. we need to get all the facts and then we need to act appropriately. >> well senator, instead of
focusing on the negative, you come from a big state. let's talk about accessibility from ptsd treatment. you get in the car and drive for hours some veterans before they get properly treated. what can you do about that? what should the v.a. be doing about it now? >> well, what we need to do, we need to get both in the v.a. and the private sector more mental health care professionals throughout. this could be the biggest issue fatesing this country over the next 20 or 30 years. what the v.a. is doing about it, they're trying to hire as many folks as they can to serve areas both urban and rural. they're working on telehealth which is critically important. with success, by the way, even better than eye-to-eye work that they've done with the folks that have ptsd and tbi. look, it is a business issue. i don't know that we've got one psychologist east of montana. and there's a big area east of billings. there needs to be work done there, no doubt about it.
all hands on deck to get it fixed. >> senator jon tester, thank you for being with us. greatly appreciate it. >> thank you. >> i don't get it. i don't -- >> it's an outrage. >> well, you talk about -- >> i don't get that, i talk to veterans all the time. >> we have them on the show. >> i talk to veterans all the time that wonder why shinseki should still be there. they are killing vets in phoenix. they are cooking the books. i don't know if he -- if he's lobbying for another facility. in his state. i don't understand that. >> well, and you talked about -- >> i'm sorry, that is -- >> that's political in itself. >> that is one of most remarkable disconnects, political disconnects from a guy i've always respected. i don't get that. >> he's a good guy. he's heart's in the right place. but the reality is the v.a. is an incredible mess. at outrage more senators going
the house of representatives, the american flag, we have to take care of our veterans. >> and even came on saying shinseki who he has covered a long time and he doesn't get it, he doesn't get it, giant should be gone. i'm shocked that you've got a united states senator saying this is about politician? it's about vets. >> coming up next, yankee great willie randolph joins us. wow. ♪ [bell rings]
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now former second baseman, now coach for the yankees, willie randolph. we're just talking about what you're doing now. you managed the mets for how many seasons? >> three and a half years. >> you had a great run as a coach and player with the new york yankees. what's next? >> i hope i get the shot to manage. i got the opportunity and lived the dream. i grew up in brooklyn, new york.
i rooted for the mets as a youngster. i got a chance to manage the team. my life has been really charmed and really blessed. and then also captain of the yankees. living both worlds and just understanding the game has been good to me, i love the game but i'd like another shot and see if i can get better at it. >> you ought to get another shot. >> your career with the yankees spans almost 30 years. you put it all together and you saw some things. >> yes. >> you were there for reggie jackson, you were there in the 80s with don mattingly, you saw jeter come up from the minors and watch him grow under that great yankee run with joe torre. can you put into words what the experience was for you? >> it was a great experience for you, a 21-year-old kid to be a part of a world series championship. the yankee way means a winning tradition, a legacy that's rich in championships.
everyone can't win, it's not easy to win championships. i was fortunate to get traded by the pirates to the yankees and it just took off for me, again, storybook. the yankees for me are about family, tradition. the steinbrenners gave us an opportunity to win. i was fortunate to play with great players, hall of famers. >> how would you like to be joe girardi trying to handle jeter's farewell tour? >> how hard is it to know when it's time? >> the players don't know it's time. your hear feels i can do that. >> i went through that a little bit with mike piazza. he did a great job of saying you got to give me a day off, i'm okay with this.
derek is a different thing. it's got to be a tough thing for a father and son to go to the game and jeter has the day off. it's a tough, tough pill to swallow. >> when you talk about the hear, though, do you have a conflicted heart when it comes to new york and mets and yankees? i know the book is called "the yankee way" but you grew up a mets fan. do you have a conflicted heart over where your allegiance really lies? >> i'm conflicted but the best of both worlds. when you manage a team, it's like a father/son. as a player, you leave it on the field. i enjoyed playing more than managing. but when you think about me, i'm a yankee. you know, i got the world championship rings, i was captain of the team. >> the ring says it all.
distracting. >> we're all surprised you didn't say the mets way. >> and i was the honor of being one of eight yankee captains. that was special. i probably have some pin stripe blood in my veins but the love the mets. >> that ring, though, look at that bling. >> this was actually, 2000 world series. imagine living in this town? this was the most nerve racking. the true subway series. they're going on right now but had is the real subway series. >> there a lot of great stories, including the one where you went to yankee stadium as a fan and heckled derek jeter. you got to read the book. >> still ahead, magic johnson's reaction to donald sterling's
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♪ ♪ ♪ tell me you never saw this man move, doing the dance, the karl rove dance ♪ >> sickening, isn't it? >> welcome back to "morning joe." mike barnicle is with us, steve rattner, mark halpern and joy reid. thinking on the whole brain damage thing. >> we picked through that a couple of years ago. he didn't say brain damage but said was wearing glasses that suggested he had a traumatic brain injury when of course these are the same type of glasses that you wore in college. >> those milk bottle glasses. >> from the yale days. >> you remember that. >> i think this will go down in
history as a miscalibration by carl because of of the way he let it come out. i'm not 100% certain he wanted this in the blood stream. this was a private event. people can say, as nicole did yesterday, people had no know this was going to come up. he had to know this was going to come up. >> but the clean-up was not handled well either. >> what she said in private obviously is in private. obviously she didn't have brain damage. i just disagree with her on issue. >> the republican party is in crisis right now. doesn't look like jeb bush wants to run, people are worried about chris christie, there's another other establish candidate. the big gun, the big brains at the presidential level is what can we do to intimidate hillary clinton from running or try to make the conversation about her
about the past and negative. i think that's part of the package that carl's part of now but i don't think he planned this. >> well, joy, this sure isn't a way to intimidate her. if i had my opponent throwing a wild charge like that at me or let's say a member of my family i'd go, okay, well, so they're going to just hand me this election then, aren't they? it was a stupid thing to say and it was stupid to not back down from it. >> yeah, i mean, the source of it obviously he's now backing off saying he didn't really say that but it comes across, if true, as a schoolyard taunt, needlessly petty and small, a stupid insult. as somebody who grew up wearing glasses, it comes across like a schoolyard, foolish taunt. it doesn't in any way get to hillary clinton as secretary of state. like what you're supposed to go after if you're being serious about running against her is the actual content of the work she's done as a public figure, the content of what she did as
secretary of state. this petty stuff and speculating about her having brain damage, it isn't even serious politics. >> and talking about her being old, when karl rove says she'll be 69 if she wins, 77 when she gets out, you know what i think? think of ronald reagan, who was 69 when he was inaugurated, 77 when he was out. i would take eight more years of ronald reagan. i know a lot of people would. but republicans, who are listening to karl rove, i don't even think republicans get it. >> can't you just see hillary clinton saying to rand paul i'm not going to use the youth and inexperience of my opponent against him? >> exactly. >> you're reminding people she has a lot of experience in public life. people who know her and know politics understand she's a serious person. >> the republican party is in
existential crisis right now. their kind of republicans now are trying to disqualify her. it's the strategy president obama used to disqualify mitt romney. they're saying our only hope of winning now until we have a candidate that can match up with her until we have a candidate in the electoral college, is to disqualify her. that's where the energy is now. >> is karl rove more wary of hillary clinton or more leery of the existing republican field? >> he would like a horse to get on. until they have a horse, there's a one-word job description for the party right now, who can beat her?
they don't have anybody gung-ho who can beat her, to try to start enough noise who can beat or damage her. >> the tea party got a much-needed primary victory last night, some are saying. the nebraska former bush official, ben sasse captured more than half of the votes. he's scored endorsements from sarah palin and ted cruz and outside groups including club for growth. they spent millions on sasse. when he called out senator minority leader mitch mcconnell to show some, quote, actual leadership on obamacare but yesterday he down played that rift and told chuck todd he would absolutely support mitch mcconnell as leader. and pete rickets, businessman who won the primary in nebraska
had the backing of ted cruz, who campaigned out there for him. so ricketts has to be the favorite for that state. a lot of tea party got behind him and establishment got behind him as well. he was a unifying candidate, wasn't he? >> but he is an outsider. mcconnell is someone who will come to washington like senator johnson of wisconsin or mike lee from utah, he's not going to come and play nice. i don't think he'll be as far outside the mainstream of the party in terms of attitude as ted cruz. he'll be a senator and peter ricketts will be senator most
likely. >> and magic johnson was first dragged into this controversy after sterling confronted his then mistress over a photograph. stiviano posted the image of magic johnson on it instagram. sterling told her not to bring magic or any other african-american to clippers game during that original racist rant and then sterling went after magic johnson again, this time, believe it or not, for having hiv. >> what has he done? can you tell me, big magic johnson. what has he done? >> well, he's a business person, he -- >> he's got aids. did he do any business? did he help anybody in south l.a. >> i think he has hiv, he doesn't actually have full-blown aids. >> what kind of guy goes to every city, has sex with every girl and then he catches hiv. is that somebody we want to
respect and tell our kids about? i think he should be ashamed of himself, he should go into the background. but what does he do for the black people? he doesn't do anything. >> here's a man who we would think would be educated and a man who would -- is smart enough to build this type of wealth and own a team, to have an incredible platform to change the world but he's doing it in a negative way. he's reaching. he's reaching. he's trying to find something he can grab on to to help him save his team and it's not going to happen. am i upset? of course. but at the same time i'm a god fearing man, i'm going to pray for him and hope that things work out for him. the problem is he's living in the stone ages. he can't make those comments about african-americans or latinos. he just can't do it. >> joy reid, why don't you tell us what donald sterling is thinking when he goes on tv and
says that? >> the only thing i can think of between that and what he said to v. stiviano on the phone, here's a man who has a desenep sense o inadequacy, just his girl friend being a picture in magic johnson -- >> what kind of fool would say that? he has to know, does he not? we all know what magic johnson has done in communities and cities over the past 20 years. the investment, the financial investments, the risk he has taken to help the disadvantaged, he's done so much. forget the ignorance about aids or hiv, the more ignorant statement has to do with the fact that magic has been doing exactly what he said blacks should do. it's insanity. >> he's a deeply ignorant man who obviously knows very little
about magic johnson other than the way he makes him feel. this is magic johnson -- in the 1980s the idea of hiv/aids terrified people. magic johnson probably more than any other single person has humanized the issue of hiv, has made people understand it in the real sense. it is considered heroic in the african-americ african-american community both for the way he has contributed to the community and -- >> why doesn't magic johnson age? magic looks like he did 25 years ago. >> he's magic. >> that's right. he's magic for a reason. >> you have lebron coming out and saying he will not play basketball next year if this creep is still running the clippers or has anything to do
with the clippers. >> i'm not that familiar with the nba board of governor rules and apparently if the majority of owners is against sterling returner so he will be done. the larger issue, joy alluded to it, do you remember the day the news broke that magic johnson and hiv? >> of course i do. >> at that stage of the hiv crisis, he provided -- >> it's impossible for people too young to remember but there was such a panic. i remember americans going to restaurants and feverishly wiping down their silverware when they got to restaurants because they were afraid they were going to get, posed to the hiv virus. magic put a loving face on the epidemic.
we all thought, oh, my god, in two, three years magic is going to be dead? >> that's right. >> no, that was a turning point in that battle that we owe an awful lot to magic for as you were saying, joy. >> arthur ashe and magic johnson are the two people who did more to end the panic for hiv/aids than anyone else. the federal government refused to use the word aids, people fighting for basic drug care. people thought he would die almost immediately. his survival in and of itself but also his really just incredibly dignified champion of just living with hiv, besides the fact that he was just an ignorant fool who should be out of the nba, that is stupid. >> magic of '91, that's the on thing people would be thinking
about now. now that's way down on the list. people don't even think about it. talking about living with hiv and making a big difference in american society, the guy did it. joy, thank you for being with us. do you know what your show is going snto be? >> we're going to be talking about this and we're going to be talking about the nigerian girls. this is a very personal issue to me and we're going to stay on that story until we see a resolution. >> that's great. can't wait to watch that. >> are you following my advice? >> my staff can hear this, by the way. >> i told her to stay at home, relax. >> i've done it a couple of times. >> pixar has swimming pools and volleyball courts. you got to be in the right mindset. do not come in here for your meeting. i'm talking to the staff. >> don't watch this, just this
part. >> it's not about you, it's about joy. >> coming up, our reaction to the interview of time geithner with larry kudlow. and calm down brian sullivan, boy, he's fired up. coming up next, speaking of freaks, the authors behind freakonomics are coming up. they want to teach you how to think like a freak. bill karins, what do you have for us? >> you can't say freak and lead into the weathercast, joe. >> we're into some freaky weather. it was only 66 degrees in san antonio, it was 92 in washington, d.c. and out west, an incredible heat wave on top of this historic drought. let's add in the santa ana winds and it's one of those days of
firefighters are going to be gearing up and be ready. it's a very dangerous day. winds could gust in the mountains up to 80 miles per hour. 80 miles per hour and 100 degrees. that's like having a hair dryer blower. record heat expect, 100 on thursday. they don't cool off in southern california until friday and especially the weekend. heavy rain and possibility of a few severe storms, maybe isolated tornado or two, it goes through pittsburgh, columbus, louisville, tupelo. if you have any problems at the airport, it will most likely be with the thunderstorms. how about los angeles, 101 today. early in the season for that. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. ♪ and you're younger than you
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need to do that they can't do. but what they can do is be relentlessly curious, and their brains are physiologically sharper. we're start to deteriorate at about 22 years old. we suggest people channel the inner child as best as they can. especially when you're trying to come up with good yquestions an creative solutions. >> give us an example how you can do that at work. >> think like a child? >> yes. >> kids don't know anything about the world and they have a lot of solutions. a lot of answers people come up with people think you're nuts but -- >> and also learn to say i don't
know. >> and as adults we tend to present a theory or possibility as a certain tear. >> put away your moral compass. >> we don't mean to say people shouldn't be moral. nobody wants to live in a world where people don't have a strong moral compass. but if you're trying to solve a problem and you walk in thinking you know what's the right thing to do and what's wrong, you will exclude a whole set of possibilities. put your moralali itit itit iti aside and you can come back to it later. >> also in the book -- >> i still think you can be an astronaut. >> i'd like to if we still had nasa. >> you're limiting yourself. >> he already looks like an astronaut. >> thank you very much.
>> could have been. >> you talk about don't be afraid to quit. a lot of people, once we get on a certain path, we don't want to trigger any type of failure in our lives because we get comfortable with being on a path. why do you try to get people to not think of that as a bad thing. >> quitting and failure are two different things. the worst failure is looking back at our life and doing the same thing and wondering why you do that. the people who quit are happier than the ones who don't. >> from freak to frank. you tell great stories. tell bus the hot dog eating contest and what lessons he teaches ees us. >> i love this story and this guy.
kobiachi, he wanted to solve the problem and he approached it totally differently. instead of doing what everybody else did, fasting, starving themselves, instead of thinking how can i eat more hot dogs, he thought how can i eat one faster? he broke the process down and the first time out doubled the world record. >> from like 25 to 50? >> it would be like usain bolt running the world record in like 4.5 seconds, somewhere between a taxi and a cheetah. >> we've heard about creative destruction, that does lie at the heart of it. like you said, you don't drive the car off the cliff. sometimes -- well, all of this is about getting out of your comfort zone and not doing what everybody expects you to do. >> absolutely. it's about thinking. it's about not just sleep walking through life but thinking about what you want to
do and taking control and doing it. >> so who is your favorite freak that you studied that put the big light bulb over your head? >> barry marshall was an australian medical young doctor who figured out what causes ulcers, okay? it doesn't sound like a big game he also figured out what causes stomach cancer. at the time ulcers were thought to be from stress and stomach issues. he went and found out it was about bacteria and solved stomach cancer by looking at a problem, asking questions, hey, what are those bacteria being here, was ostracized by the
medical community and finally was recognized and won the nobel peace prize. >> i know hough to eat a hot dog faster now. >> and you can go out for thai food to celebrate. >> let your freak flag fly high. >> you can read an excerpt on moj mojoe.com. coming up, your favorite internet stock is most likely collapsing. i told up not to invest in pets.com, you didn't listen to me. we're going to dig into it when we come back. ♪ ♪
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fell by 25% and it took a decade to get back to some measure of security for people. that's because we allowed as a country a financial panic to escalate and bring the system to collapse. and why does that happen? it's because the light's going out. it's like the power grid not functioning. if the economy can't get oxygen, just to mix some more metaphors, companies can borrow, then businesses fire people on a brutal scale and that produces those set of conditions. panic leads to crash. that's why those things are so damaging. and they have massive innocent victims in that context. >> how close were we? >> we were right at the edge. >> paulsen wrote he thought we were three days away from the atms not working. people were talking about burying gold in their back ya s yards. >> they cut out the part where
they explain that's exactly what mika is still doing, burying gold in her back yard, west chester, south of france, all over the place. >> that of course was tim geithner earlier. mike barnicle did not have a lot of nice things to say about elizabeth warren. >> i don't think he likes elizabeth warren. >> i don't know that he doesn't like her. but i think he clearly felt abused by her in the settle of setting her up for questioning, youtube moments rather than -- >> oh, i think he doesn't like her. >> okay. we're going to talk about that and much more. we're going to ask why too big to fail has got i don't know even bigger. brian sullivan is trying to recover from yesterday. larry kudlow, miles neddal, a cast of thousands will be with us when we return on "morning joe."
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can we just stop saying "the republican party." as someone who grew up in a conservative household, i don't recognize the republican party of even my youth. i don't like what i see. i don't like the far right, i don't like the extremism. they've pushed me away. as somebody who is pretty much not religious, right, pro same-sex marriage, pro legalization of marijuana for the most part, okay, what party is this? what party am i supposed to be in when i'm a fiscal conservative who believes that small government can often be better. there are times for larger government. so we keep saying "the republican party" and i love you guys and i love the show and i come on all the time but i don't know who the republican party is anymore. i don't know in the republican party knows -- it's not a party i can get on board with because
i don't like the small minded attitude, a lot of the right-wing stuff that comes out. >> well, come on down, come on down. >> give this guy a cup of decaf. >> a ticket to new hampshire. >> that was brian sullivan on our show yesterday. brian is back today. lexapro is doing a remarkable thing in his life for the past 24 hours, along with larry kudlow and miles nadal. brian sullivan, i hear not just republicans but a lot of conservative republicans that oppose obamacare, that oppose higher taxes, that oppose more regulations, that are larry kudlow and joe scarborough conservatives who say you know what, just keep the crazy at home, we want to actually win elections and change america for the better. so i don't know that you're -- i mean, i'm hearing this from the
most conservative, ideological people out there, which is just stop winning election. >> by the way, i want to thank everybody for the support. that was obviously unexpected and a little bit out of character. i appreciate everybody writing in. >> you didn't just win the academy award. >> it's like baseball. if the pirates bat .320 as a team but every team bats better and they keep losing, does l thr batting average really matter? the republicans have lost five out of six of the last popular elections? >> we've last five out of six elections. larry kudlow, people are doing some really, really stupid things. harry reid should be going to boxing matches in nevada in his
pajama and flip-flops. he should have been beaten. >> keep your eyes open. he's on the ropes. >> i think this is a year where the big tent philosophy is going to work pretty nicely. >> it worked last night in nebraska. tea party support. >> the republicans are going to have the upper hand on economic growth and obamacare. tease are very important issues. with all respect to brian, i am not in favor of legalizing pot, i never will be in favor, i don't think the republican party should be in favor of legalizing pot, but if a state wants to do it, let the state do, it don't get in the way. i would say the same thing regarding certain key social issues. if certain states want gay marriage, that's up to the state. >> but the national party, let's focus on getting america back to work, right? >> and you're going to see that,
is going to be the big theme. this is the worst economic recovery since world war ii, the job situation still remains very difficult and, frankly, obamacare is not only bad for the economy, it's going to be bad for health care and health care costs. my advice to the gop, big tent is number one and, two, keep your eye on the balls that really matter. >> steve rattner, every time on the house floor we started getting to social issues, the republican party would split, work, jobs, taxes, regulation, getting people back to work, we'd be united. this economy, a lot of unrest in the economy. unemployment numbers are going down. last quarter that we flatlined, maybe because of weather. but you have a great chart here talking about how we've got two americas. we've got the america on wall street that's setting records every day and we've got the america on main street that's been losing real wages since
1973. >> it's true. the stock market has been hitting new highs pretty much every day. it's up 32% last year, 3% this year. >> is there a bubble? >> is there a bubble? i'm sure people on this panel have an opinion about it. looking at the price-to-earnings ratio, how expensive is the stock market in this goes back to 1910 and uses a measure developed by robert shiller, an economist. and it's not as high as it was in 1929 and it's not as high as it was in 2000 and not quite as high as it was in 2007 but other than that, it is higher than it's been. does it mean the stock market can keep going up some more because of these irrational bits of exuberance? sure, it can. >> but your chart doesn't end
we're in a bubble now? >> it suggests stocks are on the expensive end but not in the bubble we've had before. >> explain what happened to internet stocks. >> look what's happened. twitter down 47%, groupon down 46%. some of that are questions that have questionable business models. i don't think many think groupon is the greatest business in the world, twitter when it went public, the valuation was crazy. the whole market is sort of rotating at the moment away from internet stocks. >> can i make one point? steve is right as far as this chart goes. this is a ten-year average of price-to-earnings multiples. now, bob shiller is a smart guy. i'm not here to put him down, this is not necessarily the best way to measure it. look at last year or this year
or a year ahead,or really around 15 times earnings and that's not bad. my advice, sometimes kudlow is right, sometimes kudlow is wrong, i wouldn't jump out of the market right now. >> housing and consumer spending. >> housing is stable temperature it -- stable. larry said trade at about 16 times earnings currently. and on that basis the s&p 500 could be 1950, 1975 next year. s&p earnings are supposed to be 117 this year, gross 6%. if you believe what lee cooperman says, which is stocks are the best house in a good neighborhood currently, they're fair live priced. they're not cheap in relation to what they've been historically
and they're not over live expensive. >> so why is main street still suffering and why is wall street doing so well? >> when you look at the unemployment rate that has declin declined, it's mostly because people have left the workforce. there's only about 150,000 job being created monthly. >> the answer is simple. why has main street suffered and wall street done so well? because wages have not increased, and what hasn't gone into wages has gone into corporate profits. workers are simply not sharing in this prosperity. >> the wage point is exactly right. it's exactly right. and i think that's because of the slow growth in the economy and i think that's because of poor economic policies. but i want to make a point, wall street versus main street. no, won't buy it. 50% of the households in this country own stocks. when you talk about main street, union people, cops, fire,
teachers are all in pension funds and the pension funds are doing very well because the stock market has done very well. in queens your cop is making $120,000 a year, your school teach ser making $120,000 a year, they're putting some money into pension funds and that money is being matched and then some. those pension funds have gone up a lot since the bottom in 2009. >> teachers make $120,000 a year? >> how much? >> did you say they make $120,000 a year? >> in this city? absolutely. look at the recent de blasio settlement, it's going to be more than that. >> how much is the market in unrest in ukraine and overseas? >> they don't seem worried at all. the bond yield has gone down. but to steven's point, the stock market continues to go up. perhaps we are the cleanest dirty shirt in a bag of laundry. do i want to push back a little on what steven said, incomes
have not gone up, that is well founded, well known, accurate. but let's not forget corporations have paid out this huge gain in money to health care over the last 20 years. any corporation will say we have given our employees a raise, it just hasn't been in their paycheck, it's been in benefits. if the president's health care plan works and does as advertised, if we can bend that down, corporations will then transfer some of those savings to workers' actual paychecks. >> that's a fair point. but the balance of the evidence is workers have not had much pay increase. to larry's point, sure. >> has some direct interest in the stock but the vast preponderance of the gains in this stock rally have gone to the famous 1%. >> i just don't think the evidence supports that. i'm not making this stuff up. half of the households in this
country either directly or indirectly through pension funds or 401(k)s and what have you own shares. >> the most important issue is about job creation. if the republican party focusses on that single issue about job creation throughout the entire economy, especially in small business, that is the critical issue. way to stimulate the economy and benefit main street is through job creation. >> and that's the gop message inside the big tent. if they stick to their knitting on that, they're going to do very well. >> all they need is a policy now. >> we'll find it. at least we have focus. that's what we need. thinking like a child, thinking like a freak. >> larry kudlow, good to have you all here. and harry reid on the koch brothers when we come back.
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from nbc news headquarters in new york, this is "nbc nightly news kwtsz with lester holt. >> police didn't have to wonder what caused a gunman to kill six people and injure seven others near a california college campus last night. the answer was a click away on youtube in a chilling manifesto. the victims were gunned down by a drive-by killer on the streets of isla vista near the university of california santa barbara. the spree of terror stretched for blocks and finally ended with the gunman himself dead. tonight the family confirms the shooter is elliott roger, who made a lengthy youtube posting hours before the rampage and calmly laid out his plan for what he vowed would be a day of retribution. revenge, he said, against the women who rejected him. already questions are being asked about whether authorities could have headed off this horrible tragedy. we have two reports, beginning
with mike taibbi on the jean for us. mike? >> reporter: hello, lester. the family of the suspect said they warned police about the youtube video before the shootings. what did happen ten minutes of carnage that left seven dead including the shooter and a college community in shock. by late this afternoon, nine separate crime scenes were on the way to being cleared, locations where just before 9:30 friday night, the usual busy scenes in and around the santa barbara campus had been pierced by gunshots. it was someone shooting from a car, a black late-model bmw here firing away in this busy intersection in the enclave known as isla vista. >> the car had pulled up in front of the deli mart. i heard between 12 and 20 shots into a group of people eating in front of it. >> hours before the shooting started, a chilling video had been posted on youtube.
>> elliott roger here. well, this is my last video. it all has to come to this. tomorrow is the day of retribution. a day in which i will have my revenge against humanity, against all of you. >> reporter: roger, the 22-year-old son of associate film director peter roger of "hunger games" fame had been a student at a local community college, not ucsb. the family attorney confirmed he was the alleged gunman, a child of divorce the attorney said had been struggling with personal problems. >> we are experiencing the most inconceivable pain, and our hearts go out to everyone involved. >> reporter: roger had a life of privilege, comfortable with world travel and private country clubs. but in a 7-minute manifesto said his hatred and rage were fueled by constant rejection. by the girls he pursued and by the men who looked down at him, so he allegedly took a
semiautomatic handgun and a supply of ammunition. a drive-by shooter spraying bullets at random targets in the night. >> this atrocity was a premeditated mass murder. >> reporter: the suspect fired at people outside a deli, a sorority house, a pizza place, a 7-eleven. leaving six dead and seven others injured. one victim staggering into the home of friend dillon carr. >> he pulled his hand down and there was blood all over it. >> reporter: six minutes after the first 911 calls, police encountered the alleged shooter's car and there was an exchange of gunfire. the suspect crashing into another car and a bicyclist before dying of a gunshot to the head, perhaps self-inflicted. there were witnesses who heard those final moments. >> i heard about six gunshots, what sounded like shots, and we weren't sure if it was fireworks. >> reporter: and others who saw how it all ended. >> we saw this black car crash into a parked car like half on the sidewalk and a guy laying in the street and the cops tending to someone in the driver's seat.
>> reporter: there had been other hints of roger's manifesto troubles before the video. he had taken to twitter. why do girls hate me? on his blog he wrote, a beautiful environment could be the darkest hell if you have to experience it all alone, leading to this. >> i'll take to the streets of isla vista and slay every single person i see there. >> reporter: the father of one of the victims who died, 20-year-old christopher ross martinez was overwrought. >> chris was a really great kid. ask anyone who knew him. his death has left our family lost and broken. >> reporter: we will learn more about this terrible tragedy at a press conference at the sheriff's department scheduled for later today. lester? >> all right, mike, thank you. now to why. his youtube posting plainly revealed a tortured young man but who really was roger elliott and what led him to snap?
joe fryer has that part of our story. >> reporter: by now many students have watched the haunting youtube video posted just hours before the shootings. >> you denied me a happy life. and in turn, i will deny all of you life. >> reporter: he discussed attacking a sorority house. members believe roger may have knocked on the door to the house during the rampage. danny thompson said some of those young women sought shelter at his fraternity. >> a girl came to the door, came in and three people just got shot. >> reporter: the alleged gunman was a student at nearby santa barbara city college, the son of a hollywood assistant director, he was photographed at a red carpet event for the "hunger games." roger's family says he had asperger's, a mild form of autism. the 22-year-old's video and other postings tell the story of a young man angered by rejection. in one post roger writes "i wish
girls were attracted to me. i don't know why they aren't." former fbi profiler clint van zandt says roger's grievance echos that of the shooter responsible for the 2007 virginia tech massacre. >> i think we're seeing this shooter do the same thing. he blamed others for his inability to have personal relationships. he felt other people had committed acts against him. >> reporter: another young man tells nbc news he reached out to roger on facebook, leaving an encouraging post. roger responded on may 1st, i had to take some videos down because someone reported them to my school. i may reupload them in the future. tonight seven victims are recovering from the rampage, including the young man who is on this mangled bike. both of his legs were broken. >> he said don't worry, i'm okay. you can come visit me in the hospital today. he seems all right. >> reporter: now a 140-page written manifesto has been
circulating online. it says it is written by roger, but at this point we do not yet know if it's authentic. lester. >> joe fryer, thank you. a thousand firefighters are now battling a huge wildfire in arizona tonight. the so-called slide fire is burning in rugged terrain but as it grows, it continues to threaten hundreds of homes and businesses near sedona. our report tonight from nbc's miguel almaguer. >> reporter: for five days, arizona's slide fire has swept across mountain ranges. flames racing up canyon walls. with 300 homes and structures threatened, the blaze is multiplying in size, now well over 10,000 acres. even with 1,000 firefighters on the ground, the inferno is difficult to reach. >> there's some very steep, rugged terrain in the middle, in the center of the fire, and we're having a hard time getting firefighters in there. >> reporter: with containment at just 5%, in certain areas crews
are letting this fire go. the blaze has everything it needs. oxygen and dry brush. with so much fuel in its path, this fire will likely burn for weeks, if not months. firefighters even loaded these ping pong balls full of napalm to be shot onto hillsides with crews can ignite a slow and controlled burn. helicopters navigate smoky skies making drops on hot spots. >> it's really crucial especially in steep, rugged terrain like we're facing here. >> reporter: with ash and smoke visible for miles, the fire is impacting businesses in the nearby resort town of sedona. on this holiday weekend, hotels and tours of the red rock country should be sold out. >> we're not yet sure what things are going to bring tomorrow, but, you know, 10% to 20% today, maybe 30% tomorrow, less than what we've been expecting. >> reporter: tonight the slide
fire is taking its toll on communities in and out of the burn zone. a blaze that could still triple in size before it's under control. miguel almaguer, nbc news, flagstaff, arizona. authorities in georgia are searching for the cause of a massive fire at a chemical warehouse that burned for hours last night. it happened in marietta just north of atlanta in a building owned by a company that makes cleaning products. several explosions caused the flames to shoot hundreds of feet high. i-75 and several roads were closed off. no reports of injuries. overseas police in belgium are investigating a deadly attack. it happened in brussels. two women and a man were shot and killed at the jewish museum there. another person was seriously injured. authorities believe the shooter drove up to the museum, went inside and fired shots. they're investigating whether an anti-semitic motive was behind the attack. tomorrow is a potential turning point in ukraine where they will hold a presidential
election that could determine whether the country finds a pathway to unity or grows even more divided. nbc's ayman mohyeldin is in the capital of kiev for us tonight. >> reporter: good evening, lester. ukrainians will go to the polls to elect a new president months after they rose up and ousted their pro-russian president viktor yanukovych but there are serious questions about whether the country will be able to hold a legitimate election. pro-russian separatists who have been rising up against the central government say they will block the vote from happening and have been seen smashing ballot boxes in the eastern part of the country. meanwhile here in kiev, though preparations have been finalized, observers and international officials are on hand to observe the voting process tomorrow, but not everyone is happy about the political landscape that has emerged in ukraine after the revolution. in fact some of the most notable revolutionaries that have demonstrated here in kiev have actually complained that the candidates running in tomorrow's election don't represent the change that they want and in
fact represent the past corrupt system. meanwhile, russia's president, vladimir putin, made a surprise announcement today saying his country, russia, would respect and deal with the winner of tomorrow's election. lester. >> ayman mohyeldin for us, thank you. pope francis began his first visit to the holy land today with a strong message of peace for a troubled land. his first stop was jordan. nbc's anne thompson is there for us tonight. hello, anne. >> reporter: good evening, lester. pope francis brings a message of peace and compassion to a region where religion has often divided with deadly consequences. he told the people it is not something that can be bought, it is a gift every person can work towards, through their actions, big and small. christians are a tiny minority in jordan. but today in the soccer stadium, they gave pope francis a welcome worthy of st. peter's square. >> what does pope francis mean to you? >> peace, love.
>> reporter: university student captured it all on her new phone. >> this is the pope because it is really windy here. >> reporter: the pope lost his cap but won the crowd, stopping to bless or kiss every child handed to him. for 1400 lucky children, this was more than a papal mass. >> can you believe your daughter is going to receive her first communion at a papal mass? >> it is really amazing. it's a very nice feeling. i never imagined my daughter would have this honor. >> reporter: 9-year-old nadine's focus wasn't on francis. >> i feel happy. it's like my first time and i don't want to mess it up. >> reporter: 20,000 people joined her in the first highlight of what the pope insists is a religious trip, but he did not ignore the region's major conflicts, meeting with king abdullah.
the pope praised jordan for welcoming refugees and called for an urgent end to the civil war in syria and a just solution to the israeli-palestinian conflict. driven by the king himself, the pope's day ended at the jordan river, praying at the spot where christ was baptized by john the baptist. then meeting with the disabled and refugees. francis once again turned to his theme of peace, asking god to convert those who seek war and those who make and sell weapons. now, despite the historic sites here, christians are a shrinking minority in the holy land. tomorrow the pope travels to bethlehem, which was 85% christian in 1947. today just 18%. lester. >> anne thompson in jordan tonight, thank you. when nbc nightly news continues on this saturday night, the battle over abortion and a controversial new law about to take effect. and later, friends like these. the remarkable story of a lion,
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nbc's kristin welker. >> we're taking steps back as opposed to progressing. >> reporter: five years ago this woman had a legal abortion at a louisiana clinic. she wants to remain anonymous but is speaking ouagainst the law passed this week by the state legislature. >> how dare you take or make that decision for me. >> reporter: the legislation requires doctors who perform abortions have admitting privileges to a hospital within 30 miles of where the procedure takes place. that change could force three of the state's five abortion clinics to close. >> this legislation is about the health and safety of women. >> reporter: christina jackson co-authored the legislation, which passed by bipartisan support and governor bobby jindal has purported to sign. >> we're seeing a lot of laws pass that are thinly disguised attempts to limit access.
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of the rarest sights in the animal kingdom. >> lions and tigers and bears, oh my. >> reporter: belew the bear, e leah the lion and sheer kaan, the tiger, known collectively as the blt. >> it's amazing the blt interact like they do. >> reporter: amazing because in the wild, they never would have met, the bear native to north america, the lion to africa, the tiger to asia. how did they end up here? they were found 13 years ago all together in the basement of an atlanta drug dealer. exotic animals apparently a twisted status symbol. they were in bad shape but shared a special bond. >> they've never been separated from each other and we've never told them that they're different species. they actually seek each other out for affection. they nuzzle each other, they play together.
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students ment >> we asked is this fair or foul? james says what is going to happen when these kids grow up and meets a team who grew up without restrictions. >> why don't we wrap them up in bubble wrap and let them play? foul. >> goom. it-- good morning. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. it is july 23. a major victory in the georgia senate race. david perdue tops a longtime congressman. >> a big scare for obamacare and even liberals are concerned. the landmark ruling that could delete the president's greatest achievement. >> super bowl winning coach tony did you know -- dungee
being ridiculed for saying michael sam would be a distraction to his team. what is wrong with speaking your mind these days? think about that as we roll animation because mornings are better with friends. >> it's "fox & friends." >> live from studio e here in the heart of midtown manhattan on this 23rd day of july. welcome aboard, folks. >> heather nauert is here with headlines. a lot happening through the night. >> we've got news coming out of israel affecting travelers there. moments ago secretary of state john kerry touching down in tel aviv, israel, despite the f.a.a.'s new ban on u.s. airlines from flying into that airport. this after a rocket landed in a neighborhood about a mile from that airport. the 24-hour ban expires at noon today but the f.a.a. is reevaluating and will announce later this morning if it will extend that ban
or not. certainly other countries have also suspended flights to israel. more on that. >> moments ago the downed malaysian plane's black boxes have arrived in england. experts now downloading data from the recorders following a request by authorities in the netherlands who are now leading that investigation. also earlier this morning the first plane carrying the remains of some of the 298 victims left the airport in ukraine for the nght lands. it is trd -- it is considered a national day of mourning in the netherlands. in the meantime the united states said it found no link of direct russian involvement. but says vladimir putin base some responsibility for the attack. they provided the training and support for the rebels who most likely shot down the plane. here at home it could be one of the most watched senate races in the entire
nation. in georgia, david perdue defeating jack kingston in the republican run-off. it will be key to the republicans gaining six more seats to win control of the senate in november. >> more debt, higher taxes, a disaster that's called imoam, this is the agenda that michelle nun and her party support. would he can't allow that to stand. >> david perdue will join us live on "fox & friends." >> the piano man is set to receive one of music's greatest honors. ♪ ♪ >> the library of congress is awarding billy joel the ber -- gershwin prize for
popular song, the second major award for joel in two years. it comes on the heels of the kennedy center honors back in december. congratulations billy joel. those are your headlines. >> why did you chows to play "uptown girl"? >> she is an uptown girl. hello. >> it's all about her. >> it is a tribute to christie brinkley and they aren't married anymore. >> a big scare for obamacare. yesterday the d.c. court of appeals, the second highest court in the land, said the subsidies are illegal in 36 states. the law as written said that credits, these subsidies can only flow through, quote, an exchange established by the state. a bunch of states didn't establish them, so the federal government came in.
and in 2012 the i.r.s. pumped out a rule giving subsidies to everybody, and that's what prompted this lawsuit. simultaneously the white house felt a little lucky because the fourth circuit in virginia said they're legal. now it could be headed to the supreme court. >> in the meantime the white house said it is going to continue handing out billions of taxpayer dollars in the subsidies until this gets figured out and works its way up the court system. >> could be years. >> three judges decided this. it seems to be a major blow when it comes to obamacare and the money that's being handed out, in this case determined here in these three courts. they said it is illegal. a constitutional scholar said this is a bloody mess. >> it will be a bloody mess. the problem is the president, it was found by the d.c. circuit, to have exceeded his authority, to have violated again the
separation of powers. but m this case that violation led to the commitment of hundreds of billions of dollars in the past, future years. and that is a serious problem. i don't see how the a.c.a. can survive without this system, at least in the form it was originally designed to have. does that mean it will collapse? it would collapse unless congress would be willing to make massive changes and massive subsidies to back those up. >> the panel found the president spent billions in taxpayer dollars he had no authority to spend, subjected millions of employers and individuals to mandates he had no authority to impose. game on at the highest level. here we go again. and all indications are they knew all along how much in jeopardy this ruling would be. it's not so much the law that passed. it's the one that kept changing. if it goes back to the original form, can anyone afford obamacare without the subsidies? that will be one of the keys.
the other thing we've got to think about too is when everyone signed up, the 5.4 million people who signed up for obamacare, did they do it the right way? was anyone verified the information they were giving. the g.a.o. wondered that and set up a sting operation. >> the government accountability office made up fake applications, 12 on phone or on-line, 6 in person, all completely false. nothing true: income, counterfeit documentation false. 11 out of 12 of them, of these fake applications got through. they actually got government subsidized health insurance. they got through the verification process and their bogus beneficiaries are still covered. >> that's the extraordinary thing. it begs the question, so this was just a controlled situation where 11 of the 12 failed and the one had a
failed, the one that failed, the one they noted simply because that person did not cough up a social security number. how many people have applied for obamacare and gotten subsidies even though they completely perhaps misrepresented their income or lied about their situation? right now we don't know because right now nobody is looking into it. >> the president doesn't have time because he's flying back and forth raising cash for democrats. >> it's exhausting. >> exactly. but there is a critique that he is not paying enough attention to what's going on in the world, he's not doing the right thing. he's forcing his attention on fund-raising, causing the taxpayers $3 million for a recent trip alone. josh earnest at the white house, press secretary, said he can focus on a couple of things at the same time. >> the president, like most professionals, has the capability to deal with more than one priority at a time, particularly somebody who has the trappings of
the presidency alongside him. he has his own airplane, dedicated phone lines, senior advisors who will be accompanying him every step of the way. >> then he brought up out of the five work days he's spending three of them on funding. >> he's got the phone and the pen. he was in seattle last night and they were talking about cynicism, and the president said i don't really watch much of the news because i generally already know what they're talking about. wait a minute, i don't really watch much of the news because i know what they're already talking about? how many times have we heard the president say i learned about this situation by watching the news. a lot of people are going which way is it, mr. president? >> you can't have it both ways. if he didn't watch the news, he probably doesn't know that tony dungee, although he's not coaching anymore, he's a spofts --
sportscaster -- got himself into controversy when he answered the question, would you have taken michael sam, the defensive player who came out and say, by the way, i am quote, he said, quote, tony dungee did, i wouldn't have taken him not because i don't think michael sam shouldn't have a chance to play. i don't want to deal with all that. he's saying when you have somebody in a locker room that's different it becomes a major story. if you want to look at an example look at tim tebow. tim tebow was bigger than the sport for awhile. >> is there x factor going to take away from what's going on on the field. keep in mind, tony dungee didn't say i wouldn't sign him because he's gay. he said he would be a distraction. there are many players like tim tebow who in the mind
of many coaches thought this guy is going to take away from the team aspect here. listen to this. >> if you are in a professional sports locker room and you happen to be gay, there are people in an nfl locker room or any kind of locker room for a professional sports team, there are people who are going to have a problem with it. if somebody is sitting there in a locker room and they're minding their own business but it is just not something they agree with, they shouldn't be excoriated either. you have the right to feel what you feel so long as you're not trying to inflict any kind of harm figuratively or literally upon another human being. it's that simple. so tony dungee, whether it is from a religious perspective or whether it is just taking his quote verbatim, he happens to be right. >> but he is getting
slammed. he's getting abused in the media. it is a fact that this story is a big deal in the media. michael sam, did he make it a big deal? who knows? did tony dungee make it a big deal? it is a big deal because the media latched on to this earlier on. >> the twitter verse is aflame and they're calling tony dungee every imaginable word and name, but here's the thepg. he has the right to express his opinion. in his have been a distraction? to tony dungee, yes. to other people? maybe not. but they weren't asked. on twitter they're saying he's a hypocrite. michael vick, he completely repackaged himself. >> tonydunjihad -- tony
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welcome back. this week president obama will mote with leaders from central america to address the border crisis. even though u.s. taxpayers are footing the bill for children fleeing those countries, their leaders are still asking for more
money. our next guest says the solution to this crisis is to cut off those countries bit by bit. maryland congressman michael burgess joins us now. good morning, sir. thank you for being with us this morning. >> thanks for having me on. i wouldn't say it's cutting them off. it is billing them for the services we're providing for their citizens. i estimated, i saw a report in the papers, it was $500 per child per day. each child is staying about 34 days in a facility. the round number comes out to about $15,000, and that seemed like a reasonable amount to bill back to the presidents of those countries for taking care of their children. >> congressman, there you are in texas, and the reaction by many upon hearing this will say that's harsh, that's heartless. >> you want to know harsh? harsh is putting an 8-year-old on top of a freight train and sending him across mexico. that's harsh. harsh is taking children to the middle of the rio
grande, leaving them and calling it a high-water rescue which is what a constable told me he had seen there when i was there earlier this month. that's harsh. this is a problem that the president created, in my opinion, two years ago when the president created this special program of adjudication. that lit the fuse. the president may say that wasn't what i really said or wasn't my intention but it is how it was interpreted, how it was marketed by child traffickers on the border. they are using the deferred adjudication of childhood arrivals as a means to tell people if we can get you there, you get a free pass. that is what has created the pressure on the border. the numbers have doubled each year for the past two years. when you go down and ask people on the border when did this change? when did it become different? they will tell you november, december of last year. the administration saw this coming. they knew it was coming. in no way is this an emergency appropriation. in fact, you send more money, you're probably
going to get more problem. >> congressman, why hasn't the president been there? who is secure with the border the way it is? >> no one. our men and women who work for customs patrol, the social workers who work at h.h.s., the people who work for fema who are doing all the jobs we task them for, they're working their hearts out but the fact of the matter is they're being overwhelmed. the process has to include stopping the flow. the president could do that by going to the border and making that statement. >> congressman burgess, thank you for joining us from the lone star state of texas this morning. >> thank you. >> coming up, it's happening all over the country. our next guest thought she had a decent deem under obamacare until she discovered no doctor would take it. this cat may only have eight lives now. how he miraculously survived the massive wildfire in washington state. strong kitty there.
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>> quick headlines. a deadly standoff in texas ends in a shootout with police. two officers were wounded while trying to serve a warrant on a murder suspect in the rio grande valley. the 29-year-old suspect was killed in a gun fight. jury deliberations resume in a separate story in jesse ventura's defamation
suit. ventura says chris kyle lied in his 2012 bestseller called "american sniper" about punching ventura in a bar, in 2006 remarks he made insulting navy seals. in a videotape before his death last year kyle says the story is true. he has passed away. >> it is a major blow to obamacare. the d.c. circuit court of appeals concluded yesterday the i.r.s. went too far in extending subsidies to those buying insurance through the federal run exchanges at healthcare.gov. you can only do them through state exchanges. the fate of obamacare may be in jeopardy but personal troubles with the exchange are still piling up across the country. our next guest says she was forced to get a policy under obamacare. but now what problems is she facing? charlene lake joins us live. good morning to you, charlene. >> good morning. how are you? >> okay. you thought you got a pretty good deal through
the affordable care act, an h.m.o. that included a family doctor, not too many miles from your home. then when it was time to actually see a doctor, you started getting paper work. what happened to you? >> basically what happened, steve, is i found a wonderful doctor. i did go in to see him for a medical situation in may. i was thrilled. i thought this is great. this is working. and he was a mile and a half from my home. i received then a letter in early july -- july 3 -- stating that they were now removing me from that p.c.p. and will be reassigning me it a new provider. needless to say, i was very upset because i was happy with this doctor. i felt i was established with him. i went in, i filed all the paper work. you reveal a lot of personal information about yourself. i confirmed with humana. they first told me they thought it was an error.
they claimed it was because of patient overload they were no longer accepting any more patients. >> but you weren't a new patient. >> no, i was not a new patient. he said confirm with your doctor. i did and immediately they knew whiefs -- what i was talking about. she double checked and said you've been removed from the system. >> here's a quote from your cancellation letter. we sent you an i.d. card with a primary care physician. however the doctor who was assigned to you is unavailable to accept additional patients. you explained that. that's the deal. now you've got this policy, and who's your doctor? >> my doctor is questionable. i called to ask who i was being reassigned to. i spoke with a series of humana agents. i was on the phone literally for hours. i called j.s.a. medical group, the medical group who basically has a
monopoly in many areas of florida. they are the main provider for p.c.p.'s with humana, the plan i signed up for. i didn't know when i saw this doctor by name that he was part of a corporation and i risked being dropped. they refused to reinstate me. they were very unsympathetic. the agent was actually very cold and wouldn't let me speak to anybody else. i asked can i speak to a supervisor? he said no, i'm it. as far as you get. i called humana back and they called j.s.a. medical group, and she got a different agent. he went on to say -- i thought this was very interesting -- that i could keep my physician if i selected a different health care plan, a more expensive one. she said yes, it would be more expensive. if it's a patient overload, how come i can keep my doctor? i also asked my doctor can i continue to see you if i pay out of pocket? they said yes. we didn't select to lose
you as a patient. but you shouldn't have to do that. >> that is not what you signed up for. what are you going to do? >> no. i have gotten my new humana card. i've been assigned to a clinic. this clinic is basically the equivalent of a low-income free clinic, and i'm sure they can offer some good service, but that's not what i signed up for. i want to keep my physician. and i wouldn't -- this premium is over $400 a month through a silver plan. i didn't think i would end up going to a clinic. >> it's heartbreaking because that's not what you signed up for. you thought you had that doctor down the street and you wound up with the free clinic which is not part of the deal. charlene, thank you very much for telling your story and we hope this all works out for you. >> thank you for having me. i appreciate it. >> too bad. 29 minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, a veteran gets trapped inside a v.a.
clinic. >> what is your emergency? >> hi. i want to report that i apparently got left in a v.a. facility, medical facility, and the alarm has been going off. >> how does that happen? you're going to hear from that vet straight ahead. then white flags replace the american flag at the brooklyn bridge in the middle of the night, and still nobody knows who did this or why. how in the world does this massive security breach happen in new york city? but first, happy birthday to guitarist flash originally from guns and roses. roses. he is 49 today. celebrate your love of crab with gthis year's largest variety!.
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>> a judge in virginia wrote an opinion today in favor, in favor of obamacare, saying getting health care from the state or federal government is the same as ordering from pizza versus dominoes. i'm not sure if i agree. their websites always work. >> it's so true. private businesses, when they go in business to sell stuff on-line, why do they always work? >> the big comparison was how big even shoe sales companies like zappos went through. >> one thing about michael bloomberg, when he wanted to get stuff done, it actually worked a lot of times in new york city and certainly at bloomberg tv. he is actually the head of your news today because he hopped on a flight. >> that's right. he got on a flight to go to tel aviv to prove that it's safe to fly there despite a new f.a.a. ban. he is ignoring that f.a.a.
ban, landing in tel aviv just moments ago. bloomberg flying on israel's el al airline which doesn't have to follow the ban. bloomberg says that ban simply gives hamas a victory. he urged the f.a.a. to lift the 24-hour ban that ends at noon today and that resulted in part from a rocket that landed about a mile away from that airport. new developments. in the case of a missing marine's pregnant wife in california. newly released court papers reveal that aaron corwin may have been having an affair with her neighbor when she disappeared three weeks ago and the baby might have been his. that neighbor, christopher lee, was reportedly worried that his wife would find out that he got corwin pregnant and would divorce him. the desert sun reporting cops believe corwin was shot. the two were on a hunting trip. lee was recently discharged as a marine. he was arrested on suspicion of possession of
a destructive device but was released on bail on july 6. cops will not say if the case is connected to the search but say he was brought in regarding an ongoing investigation. that is a story we'll continue to watch. this next story will leave you shaking your head. listen to the 911 call made after a veteran realized that he was all alone and locked inside a v.a. clinic in florida. >> 911. what is your emergency? >> hi. i want to report that i apparently got left in a v.a. facility, medical facility, and the alarm has been going off. >> nice, huh? that is the voice of jeffrey dock. he said he went to his doctor for a prescription refill but ended up waiting three hours. he then figured out he was the only person inside that building. fortunately he had his phone on him. he whipped out that phone, recorded video walking around the lobby. >> here i am around the
v.a. and everybody has gone home. >> can you imagine? the v.a. has since issued an apology. dock says he's not angry. he's just disappointed. >> keep that straight, how are they going to keep the more important things straight? it's just an indication that there's still a lot more for them to do. >> the v.a. says it's working to make changes. >> a cat proving she really does have nine lives. this feline was found in washington state badly burned by the devastating wildfires we have been telling you about. the cat is now on the road to recovery. >> definitely burned. all of her pads are going to must have. the eyelids were crisp. >> the owners can't take care of her so she is now
going home with the woman who ended up rescuing her. such terrible wildfires taking place there. >> wildfire funding was proposed yesterday in the senate. >> how about the story of the guy left at the v.a.? how many times have you been waiting, you've been waiting for a doctor and you say to yourself, i think they forgot me? they forgot about me. >> he's right there. >> we didn't forget about maria molina. she's at 48th and 6th avenue with a preview of today's weather. >> good morning. here in the northeast we have a risk for some severe storms, especially across parts of northeastern pennsylvania up into portions of new england, including the state of maine. pretty widespread area across our region for the possibility of damaging winds from some of these storms. they are forecast to fire up late in the day. late afternoon, evening hours. here in new york city, we don't think storms are going to be rolling through
until late tonight. again, severe weather possible. temperature-wise, ahead of that storm system, 90 degrees for your high in new york city. you could reach the middle the 0's -- 90's in washington, d.c. across the plains, triple digits forecast for many areas across oklahoma and texas. factor in the humidity and it will feel even hotter not only across the plains, but take a look at new york city. what it's going to feel like when you head out the door, 93 degrees and upper the 90's possible, maybe even 1 00 degrees in d.c. brian, over to you. >> thanks, maria. 21 minutes before the top of the hour. here's what's happening in sports. two lawsuits just enough for the disgraced los angeles clippers owner donald sterling. he is now filing a fraud
lawsuit against the nba and his he is stranged wife. he is suing the wife over the sale of the former team to steve balmer and the nba over the antitrust laws. doc rivers says he will quit if sterling remains with the clippers. that franchise could fall apart again all because of donald sterling. >> the seattle seahawks top a new poll as the team to beat because they're young, good and strong. they round out the rest of the top five. the 49ers are up there, broncos remain there, the patriots are there. the new orleans saints. the raiders came in dead last. lebron james' return to cleveland did not do his neighbors any favors. hundreds packed the streets around his hometown of akron and his mansion. lebron sent them all a personal apology with
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a mystery surrounding one of the most famous landmarks in the country. who scaled the brooklyn bridge? took down the american flags and put up the white flags you see here instead? robert moses joins us live. good morning. everyone has a lot of questions when it comes to the flag swap here. >> reporter: elisabeth, good morning to you. a lot of questions and a lot of security concerns as well. the it would american flags are back in their rightful positions atop the towers here on the brooklyn bridge. police say the group responsible for this stunt planned it and may have had climbing experience. new yorkers did a double take yesterday when they saw those bleached flags that had replaced the usual ones. police say they have video showing a dpriewp of people walking -- a group of people walking across the bridge about 3:10 yesterday morning and then ten minutes later the light
illuminating the flag on the brooklyn flag went out. then the same thing happened to the flag on the manhattan tower. police say the perpetrators used aluminum pan to flash the lights. this morning police are still looking for the suspects. that is the latest live from manhattan tower. >> robert moses, thank you for that update. brian? >> 14 minutes before the top of the hour. should unionizing be a basic right? that is what one democrat is proposing in congress. keith ellison is introducing a bill making it easier for workers to sue companies who will not organize. you shouldn't be fired for expressing intent to support union activity.
here to discuss what this means for the worker, republican pete snider. do you believe congressman ellison is on the right track? >> this is ridiculous. the world is far from tranquil. our southern border is being overrun, and the democrats in congress want to make unionizing a civil right and gut our right it work laws? it's absolutely ridiculous. it will trash our economy. >> it's already illegal to fire workers if they say they want to unionize. the facts tell a different story. if you look what happened in michigan when they became a right to work state, they went up 21 places in the american economics institute ranging of business friendly areas, also the highest salaries, nonunion workers. >> that's spot on. study after study shows right to work states like my home state of virginia have lower unemployment, more manufacturing jobs. this is something that the left really would love to do. they would love to make
unionizing mandatory everywhere you go, bake it into our civil liberties instead of protecting the ones that are being trampled on by the obama administration. this all happened at net roots nation where all the progressives get together. they were talking about rand paul's effort to sue the n.s.a. and protect our privacy. they were talking about hoisting federal mandatory laws on us to unionize. >> you're not also saying if there is a group of people that want to unionize, they should do it and not get fired; right? you agree with that? >> i do. but i think our economy does better in right to work states, period. >> the facts so far back you up. about half the states are right to work states now. pete snider, good job. thanks. up next, isis terrorists giving christians an ultimatum. convert to islam. leave or die. father jonathan here live with a message straight from the pope.
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killed. the threat forcing thousands of christians to clear iraq's second largest city.
>> the numbers are dwindling. in 2003, mosul had 60,000 christians. by june of this year, there were 35,000. now there are reportedly zero. zero christians in that city. so what happens now? here with insider perspective is the patriarch of the syrian catholic church and father jonathan morris, fox news religion correspondent. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. thank you for having us. >> this deadline over the weekend, horrendous. horrific. following this, the pope reached out to you. what did he say? >> he just wanted to reassure me that he is praying for us, thinking of us. he really bears our life in his heart and he do whatever he can
to follow the situation and help christians in iraq, mostly in mosul you just mentioned because it's really tragic plight what we are going through. >> no kidding. father jonathan, over the weekend on "fox & friends," you talked about this story. a lot of people hadn't heard about it, that if you're christian in iraq, you either got to pay a fine, get killed, or convert. and where is the outrage? >> it's incredible what's going on. they're going to the houses and putting an end, standing for nazarene, saying if you're here, you better get out because you're going to be killed. you have all of these christians, catholics and other christians who are leaving with nothing. they're ripping up the deeds of your house, they're taking any family jewels or anything you have on you, leaving you with
nothing, saying you have nothing to do in a place where christians have been for 1700 years. and the international community right now, it's silent. >> absolutely. >> that's why it's such a blessing to have the him here saying he was here in iraq, in the beginning of july and saw it firsthand. >> yes. i was that weekend of 28, 29, 30 of june when i heard about the exodus of our christians from a town 15 miles southeast of mosul being threatened and told that they will be invaded like mosul was. so they just fled. everyone took what they could and they fled to the neighboring area. >> is your heart full of fear? >> out of fear because they
thought that the army that was on the border between them and mosul would be -- so they will invade their city and will do those atrocities as they did in syria, neighboring syria. >> father jonathan, our president talks about a lot of stuff. we haven't heard him talk about this. >> we haven't. he's been silent. there are people who are suffering tremendously. i'm going to put on my facebook and twitter people who want to help the christians fleeing with nothing and we're going to give an opportunity for them to help practically as well. >> if i may so, we have to pray to wake up our master, the lord jesus, who has been sleeping in the back of the boat as with the apostles who were drowning and they woke him up saying master,
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good morning. today is wednesday, july 23. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. we start with a fox news alert. a major outsider victory in a georgia senate race. david purdue tops long-time republican congressman jack kingston. what this means for the balance of power in washington. purdue joins us live in just minutes. >> then michael bloomberg just flew there and this morning, secretary of state john kerry touched down there. i'm talking about tel aviv. this after the faa had banned all flights to israel from the u.s. we have a live report from the war zone and what that ban could mean to the israeli economy in moments. and here is some advice, if
you're out kayaking, try not to paddle onto the back of a whale. what were those people thinking? we're going to tell you the back story to that and so much more. we got a busy wednesday, hour two starts right now. >> it's time for "fox & friends" a big show coming your way. local politic, big primary win. we're about to talk to that candidate, as well as the latest of what's happening in the ukraine and israel. >> this morning we have a fox news alert. secretary of state john kerry touching down in tel aviv as the faa bans all flights to israel from the united states. john huddy is live in israel, along the gaza border with the very latest. good morning, john. >> reporter: good morning. along with the ban on flights, that continues.
there has been a lot of rocket attacks on israel. we saw some of those rocket launches earlier today as we were driving to a location. also coming out of gaza, speaking of rockets, i found this in the open area where we are. this is the back of a rocket that was fired at israel. we found it on the ground here. this is the artillery -- as the firing continues. this is where all the smoke is that, is east gaza. there has been an intense, fierce fighting over the course of the last six days. really the 16 days we saw this started. but particularly since the ground offensive started. east gaza now artillery fire is being fired. there is a section of east gaza. went in that area a couple days ago. israeli officials say it's been hamas stronghold, and in particular there is a hospital there. saw that hospital. it's getting targeted now. it's been evacuated. but military officials here in israel say that it's been used
as not only for rocket storage and launches, but antitank missiles have been coming out of there. fired at ground troops. by the way, overnight, two more israeli soldiers were killed in the fighting, bringing that total to 29. i want to show you something as well. if you can come back to me live here, there are troops on the ground in the distance. it looks like there is some kind of vehicle searching for tunnels at this point. that's been the primary objective throughout this ground offensive is to find hamas' extensive network of tunnels. some of which have stretched well into israel in this area here. so right now troops are on the ground looking for those tunnels. let's talk about diplomatic efforts. u.s. secretary of state john kerry is on the ground in israel. he's meeting with u.n. secretary general and later netanyahu. kerry released a statement saying some progress, quote, unquote, has been made, talking about the cease fire efforts,
though no details and there wasn't any elaboration about what kind of progress they're talking about. so at this point, again, that faa ban remains in effect and in the distance, the fighting in east gaza and gaza continues to rage on. back to you. >> john huddy live in gaza, thank you very much. it's an faa ban. it does not apply to israel's state airline el al. that is why mayor bloomberg, former of new york city, flew over there to show it's safe. fox news alert now, the runoff election for the republican senate nomination. david per do you narrowly defeating jack kingston. what does that mean for the general election because it could decide the balance of power in the senate. >> let's talk to him right now. he joins us live from georgia. congratulations, sir. >> thank you, good morning. >> how did you do it? >> well, i think our message resonated around the state that
the debt, the jobs and the economy right now are the critical issues around the state. we talked about alternatives to that. my opponent served this state very well for three decades and now we're going to be shoulder to shoulder to take our policies out to the voters of georgia this fall. >> the question out there, too, we saw in the last presidential election mitt romney getting hammered for being a successful businessman. do we see your opponent getting ready to use those arguments against your success. how are we going to see that? >> we've seen that this spring in the primary. my mom and dad were school teachers. we were raised in middle georgia and we worked on a farm. i've been blessed in my career. but the people of georgia want to talk about the critical issues of how to get this economy going and break gridlock in washington. >> so far we understand your opponent on the democratic side, of course, daughter of sam nun has got $9 million in the bank.
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that's what we plan to do this fall. republican party needs to take the senate back and take this debate forward to get an alternative on the table to replace and repeal obamacare. >> we'll see how that goes. senator chambliss did not vote for it. now, when you look at michelle opponent, she ran the points of life foundation for george bush, sam nun is somebody that's been a friend to many republicans. do you feel as though you have to position yourself as if you're running against something that's almost extinct, and that's a conservative democrat?
>> not at all. people in the state are very clear, this is 2014. we've got a crisis on our hands. the people of georgia know that and they want something done about it. that's why i'm sitting here. i was the outsider in the republican primary. now you're going to have two outside voices in michelle nun and myself. we'll be able to talk about the failed policies of this administration and talk about smaller government, lower taxes, and how to get this economy going again. that's what people of georgia want to talk about and we'll be able to do that this fall. >> jack kingston did call you last night, did he not? >> he did. yes. he was very gracious. we've been tough competitors in this runoff. but we've agreed to one thing. that is, look, we're going to be shoulder to shoulder to present the republican values of economic opportunity, fiscal responsibility and limited government to the voters of georgia this fall. we're very confident when they see that alternative, they'll respond positively. >> he beat three sitting congress people to get this
nomination. a very happy man. congratulations and the hard work is straight ahead. thanks so much. >> thank you guys. >> next up, first tuesday in november. >> that's right. our next up is heather nauert is here with some headlines. >> good morning. i've got news from overseas.
he's had enough. it flips the father and daughter over in the kayak. those are your headlines. argentina. i guess a lot of people would like to swim with whales.
>> right. i'm not one of them. let me tell you what's happening in sports in real life. super bowl winning coach tony dungee is getting hammered today because he came out and answered a question. the question was by the tampa bay tribune, would you have drafted michael sam, because he's the first openly gay athlete. would you have drafted him on your team? he says no. it would have been a distraction. he says he wouldn't have picked him. so he has gotten backlash because he said this. >> there is an attack against him for holding that opinion. we asked you what you thought. e-mails are pouring in. facebook, twitter is on fire. this is one person saying the press should give him credit for speak the truth. each player brings assets and liabilities to the team. if the celebrity of one player, regardless of circumstances
distracts from the mission, it's a liability. >> david tweeted out, i believe the media frenzied reaction confirms that he would have been a distraction. >> we're going to see how they react in the locker room. >> keep those opinions coming. >> he's entitled to his opinion, as are you. coming up, crises across the globe and here at home, so where is america's leadership and are we creating a void for our enemies to grow? captain pete hegseth reporting for duty on that. blowing the whistle on sports in america. is this woosification of america or something that's long overdue? ♪ ♪ woooo.
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with the chaos around the globe, questions are being raised about president obama's lack of leadership, from the malaysian plane disaster to the violence in gaza where secretary of state kerry is right now, to isis where they've told the christians get out or be killed. is the white house creating a power void that's allowing our enemies to grow or are we just helpless to the volume of controversy?
pete hegseth is the ceo of concerned veterans for america
>> maybe in aruba. >> yes, brian. that tranquility of this global community, it is as if we are not on the field. this president doesn't -- it seems he doesn't even believe that there is sort of a geopolitical game going on of forces of good and evil, freedom and tyranny in which america has been the lynch pin. he seems disinterested. i want a president who is doing
whatever he can to maintain american advantage and defend our interest and our allies. you got israel under siege. we're playing arbiter. >> as we try to get money into the military, that would send a big message that we're starting to bulk up instead of scale back. captain hegseth, thanks so much. >> thank you. next up, food stamps paid for by taxpayers going up in smoke. food stamps being used for weed and it's perfectly legal? meet a sheriff who says orange is the new problem. why he's putting inmates back in stripes. >> when do we get outfits like everybody? >> maybe tomorrow. ♪ ♪
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families. when do we get outfits? >> maybe tomorrow. >> shut your mouth. >> well, all the inmates at one michigan jail are getting new outfits thanks to that show, "orange is the new black." >> the hit show. the sheriff says pop culture made orange jump suits cool and says black and white stripes are >> here to explain, sheriff william. good morning to you, sheriff. >> good morning. >> okay. so what were you noticing that caused you to get rid of the orange jump suits in lieu of those black and white stripes that your prisoners now wear? >> well, we regularly see citizens in public wearing orange pants and orange shirts that resembles our jump suits. also noticed health care workers, professionals in the hospitals that wear scrubs in different colors and we found a few of them wearing orange as well. predominantly people in the public wearing it, coming by the
courthouse, being out by our work crews and we didn't want there to be any guessing about whether it's an inmate of the saginaw county jail, so we changed the uniforms. >> what's been the reaction from the inmates? >> the reaction of the inmates, they don't like it. i had a few inmates tell me it makes them look like criminals. i said well, actually -- >> you don't want to label them. >> that's funny. >> well, i'm not trying to demean them. it's to identify them to provide good safety and security for the citizens. >> in the big picture, do you worry that prison will begin to look kind of cool? >> well, sometimes i worry about that. i know that there are individuals in certain cultural crazes go on where people wear the orange as a badge of honor and as you know, life sometimes imitates art and this is an instance that i don't like it and so again, we moved in that direction from a security standpoint. it was also a cost saving standpoint. >> what's your message to anyone who doesn't want to wear the
stripes? >> well, if you don't like the clothing i provide, don't come back. it's when they complain about the food or clothes, don't commit crimes and you won't have to wear black and white horizontal stripes. it's an easy thing to do. it's a choice. we're not trying to demean the prisoners, but we must identify them for our citizens. so if you don't want to wear it, don't come in. >> in other words, don't break the law. don't go to jail. >> don't break the law. exactly. simple message. >> all right. sheriff, thank you very much for joining us today. >> you're welcome. >> thank you. >> they feel it makes them look like convicts. >> boo hoo. >> all right. coming up straight ahead, one state blowing the whistle on full contact football in high school. is this the woosification of america or the right thing to do? and lights out at brooklyn bridge as american flags are white washed or bleached and authorities have no clue who did it. how in the world does this
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. >> natural symbols of surrender and as you can see it right here, it flew on top of the anotherly 300-foot high towers for hours and hours yesterday. surveillance video shows four to five people crossing the bridge about 3:00 o'clock in the morning and then a short time later, the lights went out and the waving american flag disappeared. police found aluminum pans and those were used to cover the bridge lights. at a closer look, the flags were really the american flag but bleached white. the nypd says whoever is responsible for this had training in climbing or construction. they do not believe that it's terror related or any kind of political statement. that's from the nypd.
in washington, the irs commissioner, john koskinen is back on capitol hill facing questions about the disappearance of two years worth of lois lerner's e-mails. it is the first hearing since testimony by irs attorney where he revealed he's not sure back up tapes containing lost e-mails exist or not. now the irs tech experts claim her hard drives were not destroyed and only crashed. the big question for investigators was that the crash, was it accidental or was it deliberate? more on that. a trip to florida turns into a nightmare for one family from indiana. their eight-year-old son, aidan, was playing in the ocean when he felt something on his right knee. it turns out it was a shark. >> i felt it, my eyes opened and then about a second later i started screaming 'cause it hurt so much.
i could see the teeth marks. it was pretty big. >> i heard him scream and i turn around and he was within arm's reach and i pulled him up out of the water. >> that poor little guy. aidan was rushed to the hospital. doctors say he suffered a six to seven-inch long cut on his leg. it was more than an inch deep. he will fully recover, it will take a couple months. california now limiting full contact practices at middle schools and high school youth football games. the reason? parents say they're worried about concussions. under the new rules, there will be no full contact in the offseason and teams are limited to 90 minute sessions twice a week for the rest of the year. this goes into effect january january 2015. >> no full contact in the kitchen. >> yeah. it's stormy in all places. >> thank you.
>> you guys feel the tingling? >> what are you -- chris matthews? >> i'm just saying there is a tingling on the couch on wednesday because it's trivia day. >> that's right. it's wednesday. hello, everybody. good morning. it's science trivia day. today's question, by the way, has to do with the urban heat island effect and it's basically the fact that pavement and concrete can keep temperatures a little bit hotter than what the thermometer reads everywhere else. roof, pavement and concrete can raise night temperatures in cities by how much? three degrees, eight degrees, 15 degrees or 22 degrees? how much warmer will the temperature be at night in a city versus somewhere else? >> i'm thinking b. >> i think it's more than 15. >> you do? >> yeah. >> we'll go with d. >> you're going to go with d? >> i'll go with steve.
>> i think it's around 20 degrees. i heard that once in a science lecture. >> steve, you are correct. it's 22 degrees. isn't that incredible? that a city can make nighttime temperatures 22 degrees warmer than elsewhere just because of the pavement and the concrete up here. >> you got a lot of cats on hot tin roofs on this town. >> it feels that way for sure. >> thanks, maria. >> thank you. >> that was your science trivia for the day. >> it was good. >> parents, are you sick of yelling at your kids from the driver's seat. toyota is unveiling a mega phone-like system in their new mini van. it's a reminder to our next guest on why he chose not to have children and why he[s9>(ñoo many laughs even talking about it. >> joining us is standup comedian and the host of fox tv's new show, " [ laughter ] >> the hecklers -- toyota has a
solution for the parents. what do you think about it and what would be your tip? >> my tip is not to have them. >> kids? >> yeah. i don't have any kids. people keep saying the same thing to us because we have dogs. so they say, oh, well you're practicing for children. to them i say you're probably a bad parent. dogs are much smarter than kids. >> we don't let the kids drink out of the toilets at our house. >> i own a home and i don't own any outlet covers. there has never been a moment when my dog was like, duh, like this never happened. >> exactly. and he's home right now, right? >> yeah, and i don't care. child services can knock down my door. >> you don't have the app to look at him and make sure he's okay? >> i'm sure he's okay. tv is not even on. >> if you have a kid, you can
brag to him and say, you should be so proud of dad, he has a new tv series and it's about laughs. >> yeah, but i can post that on social media. my ex-girlfriends will see anyway. >> making them know what they missed. >> exactly. i'm happy. it all worked out. i love my wife and they're nowhere to be seen. >> it's august 2 premiere, fox stations. tell us about it. >> "laughs" is a highlight reel for standup comedy. it's the best comics in the country. we go around every week, we find the best comics and show the homeruns, the slam dunks, the best part for their act and give information on how people can see more of them. so if they're somebody you like, then you want to go see them live, we tell what you club they're playing, where you can find out more, what their twitter is, and we help people discover some of the best comics in the country. >> there are a lot of them in this country. >> tons. >> many in washington. you're actually looking for comedians to be on the show, right? >> we're looking all over the
place. we're traveling to eight different cities in the first 13 weeks that we're doing it. we've already done tapings in louisville, indianapolis, new york, and l.a. and we're looking for more. it's fantastic. >> do they know you're there, or are you saying hey, if you're good, i'm going to put you on the show or you trio sneak in? >> i hope they know we're there. otherwise we'll have rating issues. yeah. they absolutely know that we're there live. and this is a thing where once we get picked up -- not if, once -- once we get picked up, then we're going to have the opportunity to introduce america to 400 new comedians a year, which is absolutely incredible. so if people enjoy comedy at all, they really have the opportunity to see it. >> people love laughs. good luck to you. >> we'll see you saturday nights? >> saturday nights on fox stations and then again on sundays on my net. >> good job. entrepreneur and very funny guy
giving comedians a great chance. >> good luck with the dogs. it's making national headlines, a man dies while being arrested in new york city by the police. [ bleep ] >> a community is outraged, but are we jumping to conclusions too quickly? peter johnson, jr. weighs in on that coming up next. and things get heated up during a live tv show. what sparked this brawl? you have to see the video. you're seeing some of it. it's next. ♪ ♪
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the country. this on the heels of the reported shootdown of a malaysian passenger jet last week. the united states hasn't found proof of the wrecked russian government involvement in the attack, but senior intelligence officials blamed moscow for supplying the missiles to rebels. steve? >> thanks, elisabeth. two new york city police officers are on desk duty after the arrest of eric gardner who died after this altercation with police. he can be heard yelling, quote, i can't breathe, a couple of times while an officer had him in what some are calling a choke hold. the facts of the incident being figured out, although many insist the altercation was racially motivated. bill bratten shot that theory down yesterday. >> i personally don't think that race was a factor in the incident involving this tragic death. >> okay. has there been a rush to judgment and what are the very latest developments?
joining us now is life long new yorker and fox news legal analyst, peter johnson, jr. >> good morning, steve. this is a controversy that's consuming new york and the streets of new york at this time. f.b.i. is involved. the staten island district attorney is involved and even spike lee has gotten involved, noted film maker. he said on a tweet, the gentle giant watched the video, what he did is take a piece his movie "do the right thing" and confuse it with a video that was at the scene where mr. gardner was arrested and his subsequent unconsciousness and brought them together in an inflammatory way. >> what do we know happened for sure? that's an image from the cell phone. >> we know mr. gardner was allegedly selling what's called lucys, cigarettes, untaxed cigarettes at 75 cents apiece. allegedly he had broken up a fight on the street previous to that. police came on the scene. they decided to arrest him.
the video apparently shows that he resisted arrest and one police officer, along with other police officers, uniformed and nonuniformed, came up behind him. i'll show you exactly what he did. we'll talk about what the controversy is. the allegation is that he performed a choke hold with his hand behind him in an attempt to bring him down. >> you can't have the arm right there. >> a choke hold is something that will crush the wind wipe and can cause you to die. the issue, is it a choke hold? the second issue, which is illegal under new york police department patrol regulations, did the choke hold cause his death? >> 'cause he did die later. >> he did die. an autopsy is going on now. as i said, the d.a. and staten island is looking at it, the f.b.i. has gotten involved. even al sharpton has gotten involved with the national action network, calling for robust investigations, arrests
and indictment of the police officer who was involved in this incident. so it's caused a fire storm in new york city. we've had similar incidents in the past involving the use of the choke hold which as i said is prohibited by the nypd. it's all going to come down to the medical examiner's report because they will determine did the choke hold cause the death or was there some inherent instability in mr. garner's medical history? did he have an arrhythmia? did he have a heartbeat that beat too fast? did he have asthma or some other condition? we know he had asthma. there is also an issue with regard to the conduct of the emergency medical technicians and paramedics on the scene who, according to one report, did nothing for six or seven minutes, except feel the carotid artery to see if there was a pulse and he was breathing. a lot of questions. i'm sure it will go on for a long, long time in new york city and there will be a lot of controversy of the race card has
already been played on this issue. >> it has been. >> although there is no proof at this point of any racial discrimination. >> i think your advice is good. we wait for the medical examiner, and then we'll see what happened. >> thank you very much. >> be well. coming up, a mom uses her iphone to track her teenage daughter's every move. is that normal or is that nuts? dr. keith ablow is in charge of that department. he joins us. first on this date in 1980, "it's still rock'n'roll to me" by billy joel was the number one song in america. i think before he wrote "uptown girl." ♪ ♪ !hs. they're irresistabowl... completely unbelievabowl... totally delectabowl. real silky smooth or creamy broths. everything she's been waiting for. carefully crafted with real seafood, real veggies,
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here is a quick headline i want to share. tensions high in the ukraine parliament. understandably so. a fight just erupted following a vote that called up more reserves to defend the country against the increasing russian troops on the nation's border. a brawl breaking out during a tv interview after a guest threw a bottle of water at his rival before trying to attack him with a chair. how do they act in the green room? two months ago on this same show, guests started violently shoving the interview desk on the set. >> that's a cheap desk. >> until it collapsed. >> looks frankly familiar. >> one day junior said, you stole my format. that's what's happening in the >> who is normal and who is nuts? it's a question we ask dr. keith ablow every week and he joins us now. hey there, doctor. >> hey there. how are you? >> so we've got some e-mails coming in.
first one says, i have a divorced friend who won't go to certain restaurants he frequented with his ex in order to keep his memory tarnished. she has remarried and moved on. >> is that normal or nuts? >> sad but normal. here is the thing, complicated grief reaction, yes. but listen, he loved this woman. maybe he still loves her. he's raw. this is more of a love story than it is a story of pathology. does he need some therapy? sure, maybe he does. does he need a new girlfriend? probably. but i'm not going to call him out. >> what if they live in a town where there is only one restaurant? suddenly your choices for takeout is limbed. >> i hop. >> that would be a problem, i agree. then there is the next town over and he's likely to meet somebody very kind. >> number two, whenever i witness someone being injured, either in person or on tv, i often experience a slightly
painful sensation in the center of my chest or tingling up my arm. is this normal or nuts? >> it's better than normal. that's not nuts. normal. but super normal. it's great. what are you describing here? you're describing human empathy. this person feels for other people. instead of calling it pathological, why not call it a gift, see if you can develop it. maybe you're very connected to people. >> our final query of you is my sister tracks her 14-year-old daughter and her friends anywhere the teen-agers go with an iphone tracker. normal or nuts? >> i knew we'd get one. nuts! that's crazy. >> what if she's worried about the safety of her kid? >> here is the delusion involved. you can't tell whether your daughter is safe by her location. secondly, instill trust in her. don't try to track her. that's no answer. or you could say this, hey, where were you this afternoon?
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good morning. it's wednesday, july 23. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. we begin with a fox news alert. while you were sleeping, a major victory in the georgia senate race, outsider david purdue tops long-time congressman. hear from the candidate and his first interview since getting the win. they stumbled across the border illegally. now they need your help. >> what's your emergency? >> yes, somebody speak spanish? >> (speaking spanish). >> a small texas town forced to answer 911 calls from stranded illegals in spanish. one of those sheriff's deputies joins us live today. most veterans beg to go get inside the v.a. but this one is begging to get out? >> 911, where is your emergency? n hi. well, i want to report that i apparently got left in a v.a.
facility, medical facility, and the alarm has been going off. >> incredible. veteran locked in the waiting room and the staff went home. mornings are better with friends. >> it's time for "fox & friends" >> well, it was six days ago that the rebels shot that jet liner out of the sky and this morning we've got a fox news alert out of ukraine. moments ago, ukraine's military revealing pro-russian rebels just shot down two of their fighter jets as fighting flared up again in the east. steve harrigan is on the ground with the breaking details from ukraine. all right, tell us the latest. >> reporter: these two f jets went down a few hours ago. they are soviet made fighter jets, single piloted jets from about 1970s used by the
ukrainian government against the rebels. all this is happening not far from the crash site, 40 miles from where i'm standing. it looks like they were shot down with advanced surface to air missiles. that's with it would take to bring down a fighter jet of this nature. so six days after this tragedy when people thought perhaps there would be a pullback, the reverse is happening, going ahead, knocking more jets out of the sky. rebels apparently using similar or the same surface to air missiles to knock down two single piloted government jets not far from this crash site where any hopes of carrying out a careful investigation in a hot war zone is very challenging. steve? >> all right. steve harrigan live in ukraine with the very latest. what we learned in the last one was we've got the technology, the satellite technology to figure out where those particular surface to air missiles were shot off, if they're in rebel areas, this should be easy. doesn't look like the rebels learned their lessons. >> they didn't. they're in a war. we told the russians you better
scale back and called for a cease fire. told them to stop doing this, stop supplying the russians. we're not supplying the ukrainians, those russian separatists who are basically russians. what do they do? shoot down two more planes. so want the threat of an embargo or the sanctions from western europe? i don't even think so. you think vladimir putin is shaking? obviously not or else that wouldn't have taken place. france yesterday not only did not offer sanction, they off the record to continue their sale of warships to the russians. european foreign ministers met yesterday and they're looking to speed up the would be sanctions on russia, whatever they determine them to be. does that sound like a scary statement? >> in britain were appalled that the project was continuing in terms of construction there. >> incredible. >> we were also asking yesterday, does the president's word matter when he says cease fire, when he asks potato ton make things more peaceful? is it being heard? today with this happening, it doesn't seem like it's falling
on ears that are listening. >> you know, before they shot the jet liner out of the sky, they had already shot a couple of other military planes. we probably wouldn't even have noticed it, unfortunately, had they not killed all those people on that particular jet liner. now they're just back to the same monkey business they were at seven days ago. >> the new anti-airplane missiles are relatively new. they shot down three cargo planes overall. that shows the russians are giving them more technology instead of telling them to back out. instead, essentially saying we're doubling down. >> putin's rebels, putin's equipment. you be the judge. five minutes after the top of the hour. heather nauert has a whole bunch of other news. let's go to gaza. >> good morning. i've got another story about airplanes. this morning, secretary of state john kerry touching down in tel aviv as the faa bans u.s. airliners from flying into that airport following a rocket attack in a neighborhood that was about a mile away from the
airport. it is a 24-hour ban and expires at noon today. the faa is reevaluating and will announce this morning if they will extend that ban or not. several other countries have also suspended flights to israel because of the escalating violence there in the past two weeks, more than 2,000 rockets have been fired, killing nearly 700 people. could be one of the most watched senate races in the entire united states. in georgia, this david purdue defeated a long time incumbent in a runoff. he will face michelle nun in the general election. it's to replace retiring senator sax bee chambliss. he said this about his strategy early or on "fox & friends." >> you run against harry reid and barak obama and nancy pelosi and the failed policies of the last six years. people in this state are very upset about the performance in washington right now. that's exactly what we're going to do. this candidate, michelle nun, i have a lot of respect for her, for her work and her family.
but she's going to have to defend the failed policies of the last six years. >> republicans holding that seat will be key to getting six more seats. they need that in order to control the senate in november. a warning out before you eat breakfast. popular summer fruit is apparently contaminated with listeria. it's now being recalled as a result. merona packaging company sells fruit. they're being pulled from shelves across the country. they've been sold at stores including costco, trader joe's and wal-mart and kroger. no reports of anyone getting sick so far. this story is unbelievable. it's really going to leave you shaking your head. listen to a 911 call made after a veteran realized that he was all alone and he was locked inside a v.a. clinic in florida. >> 911, where is your emergency? >> i apparently got left in a
v.a. facility, medical facility and the alarm has been going off. >> jeffrey duck said he went to see his doctor for a prescription refill for his pain medication. he ended up waiting three hours. he then figured out he was the only person inside the building, so he whipped out his cell phone and recorded the video walking around the lobby. look at this. >> here i am inside the v.a. and everybody has gone home. >> can you imagine? the v.a. has since issued an apology. duck saying he's not angry. just disappointed. >> if they can't keep that straight, then how are they going to keep the more important things straight? it's just an indication that there is still a lot more for them to do. >> the v.a. says it's working to make changes and make sure this does not happen again. he walked in about 1:00 o'clock. three hours later, they locked the doors. so 4:00 o'clock, nobody is around.
not quite sure why. >> that guy is going to be on our show tomorrow. we promise not to keep him waiting. >> we won't lock him in either. >> and we will not leave him alone. >> thank you very much. let's talk about the big fox news alert from yesterday. the dc circuit court of appeals, the number court in this land said the obamacare subsidy attention being used in 36 states through the federal exchanges are illegal because the way the law was crafted by democrats and only democrats, it said you can only get the subsidy money through an exchange established by the state. 36 states didn't sign up, so they won't on the federal exchanges, which were invented by the federal government. that court says that's illegal. however, there was another, the 4th circuit, almost simultaneously, they came out and said we don't have a problem with it. that was probably heading for the supreme court. >> that's exactly what the forecast is looking like, it will travel up there. the government says they're going to continue to pay out
those subsidies until that final ruling comes through. >> of course. >> so here is jonathan turley on are we are right now. >> it will be a bloody mess. the problem is that the president was found by the dc circuit to have exceeded his authority, to have violated again the separation of powers. but in this case, their violation led to the commitment of hundreds of billions of dollars in the past and future years and that is a serious problem. i don't see how the aca can survive without this system, at least in the form it was originally designed to have. does that mean it will collapse? it would collapse unless congress would be willing to make massive changes and massive subsidies to back those up. >> the first ruling says the taxpayer dollars, the president had no authority to spend them. he has no authority to subject millions of employers, individuals to taxes, that he had no authority to impose.
game on, supreme court. so now they're going to take these two cases and come up with an overall ruling. again, we'll have the drama at the supreme court that could have this bill live or die. >> when you have a constitutional lawyer say what he just said, this could be just the end of it entirely. he had eyebrows raised across the nation. >> sure, because he has been talk being how this administration has done all this executive overreach. in this case, the democrats in congress passed one thing, but then the administration through the irs, interpreted it another way. now at least one court says not illegal. there's a real good possibility before it gets to the supreme court the administration could actually ask for a review by the entire dc circuit, which this administration has done their best to pack with left-leaning judges. >> 544 million people, especially listening very
closely to this talking point we're going through 'cause they've signed up for obamacare. 87% of them receiving subsidies to have their insurance. so they're going to get paid for in some way, shape or form. the gao thought, i have an idea. let's just make sure this thing is on the up and up. so let's run a sting operation with 18 people. >> yeah. so 18 people, sole applications were created here. 12 of them applied on line and by telephone. six started looking for in person help. they had all false information, documentation was bogus. guess what? 11 out of the 12 of those false applications for subsidies went through. and their sole beneficiaries are still receiving the subsidies. >> people that don't exist. >> people that do not exist on information that was false. 11 out of 12 is what they found in the sting. >> so that was in the sting. how many people in real life are getting subsidies paid for by all of us through the generosity of the federal government?
how many of those people simply are not entitled to them but are going to take them because is anybody really looking out for our cash? doesn't look like it. >> 12 minutes after the hour. here is what's straight ahead. they crossed the border illegally. now they need your help. >> 911, where's your emergency? >> yes. somebody speak spanish? >> speaking spanish). >> wow. one of the sheriff's deputies from the small texas town that's being forced to answer those type calls from people who don't belong there. >> and you never know what's lurking under your kayak. it could be a whale. take a look at this. >> bad place to park. ♪ ♪
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small town 270 miles south of houston, illegal immigrant are learning the hard way there is a deadly cost to crossing the border. listen. >> 911, what's your emergency? >> somebody speak spanish? >> (speaking spanish).
>> wow. just one example of the 911 calls bombarding the brooks county police department. not only are they understaffed and lack resources, now they've got to deal with illegal immigrants who have no business being here. martinez is the county chief deputy. chief deputy of brooks county. we appreciate you joining us, sheriff. first off, when you're hearing that call, how unique are calls like that to you? >> those calls are -- they have a crisis. we need to respond to them. those are pretty regular calls on a daily basis. >> so those calls, you have to respond to, even though for the most part when you get there, you realize they're not even american citizens?
>> that's correct. but they're on u.s. soil and due process comes into play and that's the way we're taking them as. >> you have 129 a couple years ago. you're heading this year on average, if it continues, with another 87 who have lost their lives by the time you get to them. they're dead. so far you've recovered 43 corpses. to date. here is another example of the 911 call that came in to your people. >> 91 s state your emergency. >> hello? >> (speaking spanish) >> sheriff, they're coming across the borrowedder and haven't had anything to drink in
three days. what do you do? >> well, basically what you try to do when the call comes in, it's not as easy as one, two, three step procedure. all you do is kind of get an idea to where they might be at. our brush area is vast. it's thick. vegetation is good. it's difficult. we can just maybe get within 500-meters of that particular call. >> so sheriff, the thing is, a lot of these men and women sneaking across the border illegally coming here are going off the main paths and that's how they're being led by their so-called escorts, coyotes, because they don't want to get caught. there is also no people around to help them, which makes things twice as hard for you when you have to get there quickly. >> absolutely. this is why we also realize the local border patrol office that we work closely is, as a result of the border not being secure,
developed on our frontan crisis step. >> deputy, real quick, you chronicle harrows situations where you have hundreds of these tapes. what do you want the message to be to washington and everybody else watching? >> they need to have a sincere dialogue. forget about the republican or democrat side. sit down and have a sincere dialogue where we can actually resolve this issue. it has to be resolved. as long as they keep stalling it, this is going to continue. it's going to continue to where our funds are going to be depleted. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up straight ahead, we change gears. food stamps paid for by taxpayers going up in smoke. welfare being used for pot and it's perfectly legal? we'll examine. atheists aren't giving up the fight to get rid of the steel beam from the world trade
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we got quick headlines for you. a deadly stand-off in texas ends in a shootout with police. two officers were wounded while serving a warrant on a murder suspect in the rio grande valley of la joya. 29-year-old suspect was killed in the gun fight. new develops in the case of a marine's missing pregnant wife in california just released
court papers reveal aaron corwin may have been having an affair with her married neighbor when she disappeared three weeks ago. and the baby could have been his. cops believe she was shot while the two were on a hunting trip. that's the news. it was a symbol of hope on america's darkest day. two intersecting steel beams in the shape of a cross found in the rubble of the world trade center. rescue workers use it to pray. but atheists say there is no way this cross should be allowed inside the 9-11 museum. my next guest has promised a fight the latest lawsuit. thanks for being with us this morning. american atheist group had this to say. christianity deserves no special treatment just because it demands it or because the world trade center was made from cross beams. they're looking to get that
cross out of this memorial. do they have a case? >> not at all. as you mentioned, the cross is not in the museum as a station of worship. it's not there to honor christians. it's will as part of the story of ground zero. it's displayed in a section of the museum dealing with how rescue workers dealt with the tragedy of 9-11. it's a story of how americans turned to god, family, country, community to find hope, to find inspiration and to overcome this horrible tragedy. and just because some people were inspired by god doesn't mean we have to hang up a plaque that says atheists died here, too, which is what they're asking for from the courts. >> eric, i have a question here. so the american atheists are making strong allegations here that just reading newspaper articles about the display of this cross caused them stress, headaches, and indigestion. some would make the argument that that pales in comparison to all that was suffered and lost that day by 9-11 families and
first responders. why in the world would they have a right to take away a symbol of hope that exists there today? >> that's right. the constitution is not your mother. it's not there to make sure that every boo boo you experience in the real world gets kissed better. and even your mother sometimes says okay. so you bumped into a cross, into the museum. stop crying, brush yourself off. move on to the next exhibit. this is not a constitutional crisis. and it trivializes the sacrifices that thousands of people made over this issue. >> should those that have already suffered and lost so much be faced with this challenge here? angst that it's causing to the families of 9-11 perhaps and those first responders would also be a case, no? >> that's what we are trying to tell the court, thatu:hñp4 loos case never should have been brought in the first place. the museum spent three years fighting this. not every community, not every organization that has some
mention of god or some mention of religion can afford to pay for that kind of a fight. the court should be clearing these kind of cases up. this is a playground fight. we live if a pluralistic society. the court should be saying, look, learn to work this out, respect each other's differences. and really be respectful of those people who died in 9-11 and the many rescue workers and others who paid a great sacrifice in an effort to -- in the course of the recovery effort in 9-11. >> sure. many of those, if not all, say it's a symbol of their hope. the atheists filed their brief and we're waiting for the court to respond. thank you for being with us this morning. >> thank you. coming up, terrorists in iraq giving christians three option. convert, pay up or die. why aren't you hearing about this? we're going to tell you. then white flags replace american flags overt brooklyn bridge and still no one knows why or who did it.
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>> it's your shot of the morning. kayakers got way too close to two whales in argentina. the boat lingered on top of the whale for a while before the massive mammal says they've had enough, flipping the father and the daughter over. >> yeah. i heard about this story. they saw this one whale and then saw a whole bunch of them. if you spot a whale, you would think, well, i'll point to it. i won't go up to it.
i give these people, whoever they are, tremendous credit. >> they're lucky to be alive. >> you don't want to get on the wrong side of that blow hole. >> tell me about it. >> we've all been there. >> we have some headlines. >> we have breaking news. ukrainian military revealing pro-russian rebels have just shot down two of its fighter jets as fighting has once again flared up in the eastern part of that country. in the meantime, the planes carrying the first bodies of the victims of the malaysia airlines crash are set to arrive in the netherlands at any moment now. this while british investigators are starting to look at a pair of the black boxes to try to retrieve data on the flight's last minutes. we'll watch that story out of there this morning. back here at home, who scaled the brooklyn bridge and replaced the american flag with these flags, these white flags? we all know it's the symbol of
surrender. they flew on top of the nearly 300-foot high tower for hours yesterday. surveillance video shows four to five people crossing the bridge about 3:00 o'clock in the morning and then a short time later, the lights go out and the waving american flag disappears. aluminum pans were actually used to cover the light and then at a closer look, the flags were really american flags that were bleached white. the nypd says they believe those behind this have some training in climbing or construction. they don't believe it's terror related and don't believe it's any kind of political statement. in iraq, isis is issuing an evil ultimatum to christians in iraq. convert, pay a tax, leave or be killed. christians in mosul are now fleeing with just the clothes on their backs. it is one of the oldest christian communities in the entire world. it dates back nearly 2,000 years. now that community faces
extinction. earlier today the patriarch of the syrian catholic church and father jonathan morris joined us with an insider perspective. listen to this. >> it's really tragic plight what we are going through. >> they're ripping up the deeds of your house, they're taking any family jewels or anything you have on you, leaving you with nothing. saying you have nothing to do in a place where christians have been for 1700 years. >> recent data showing christians face the highest rate of religious harassment in the middle east and north africa. hundreds of marijuana users are buying weed on your dime. the national review report said welfare recipients in colorado are using their ebt cards as marijuana retailers. the cards have been used more than 250 times in the past six months, total withdrawals of $25,000 in welfare benefits. some are saying it could be buying pot, it could be buying groceries. but those are your headlines.
now colorado starting to restrict it. this is the moment retired army staff sergeant and his military dog were reuniteed. they are battle buddies who put their lives on the line for one another. >> you know what? this morning they are joining other human k-9 teams and heading to capitol hill. peter doocy is with them in our nation's capitol and joins us live. peter? >> reporter: we've got four american heros right here. we've got jason boss, army veteran who you just saw, and marine corps vet sergeant dino miller and their two dogs, both seven years old. here is sela and that is thor. you saw the video with sela. you were four years as her handlers. you came back with back problems four years ago and retired.
you didn't know if you would see her again. >> no, i didn't. i was really surprised and thankful i was given the opportunity to get her back. i've had a lot of help from family friends. this organization has done a really good job of helping us get our dogs back. >> reporter: sela is so calm here. what does she help you with? >> she would do active searches. pretty much just trying to keep the soldiers safe there. >> reporter: tell me about how it was that you got reunited. >> i was in contact with her previous handleer and they told me when it was time to retire her out, they would contact me and they did. >> reporter: can you tell me about how thor was the only dog
that was listed to you in the marines. how about now? >> i got three dogs back home. they all listen perfectly fine. but when we went to the corps, they ran three or four dogs separately and he was one i wrote down. >> reporter: how were you reunited with him? >> as soon as i got out, i went through the senator's office and she got me in touch with all the right people and i put in adoption paperwork in 2011 and i finally found out he was available in april of this year. >> reporter: you said that you used facebook to get in touch with the dogs. a dog? >> definitely. facebook really helps out when you have people around the world, other soldiers. facebook definitely saved us. >> reporter: what are these dogs like at home? how are they different than when you're out on a patrol? >> now she gets to lay on the
couch and eat all kind of goodies and be retired. >> reporter: what is really amazing about these dogs, the american humane association who will be on capitol hill a little bit later on today says that each dog like these two saved between 150 and 200 servicemen and women when they are deployed. it is an amazing statistic and we're so lucky to have them here with us in washington. back to you in new york. >> very well behaved. all right. peter doocy with four heros. thank you. >> thank you all for your service. >> dogs were behaved and so was peter, as well as the veterans. >> i love to see those battle buddies reunited. >> great story. coming up, thousands of apple geniuses staging a revolt. what? find out about that. and they dedicate their lives to fighting for our country and the government's giving them pink slips. the military families and the price they are paying for washington's problems coming up
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steve? >> all right. the pentagon handing out thousands of pink slips to military officers all across the country and around the world. it's supposed to save money, but at what cost? our next guests have two sons devoting their lives to the u.s. military. as americans, they're proud to be parents, but as parents as well, they're also afraid of the direction our country is heading because of their children. greg hancock and his wife join us now from harrisburg, pennsylvania. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> vicky, let's start with you. the news came out that over 1,000 u.s. captains in the army are getting pink slips. the same day that news came out, what happened at your house? >> our son was sworn in to the united states army. >> that's kind of scary for you as a mother to think about his future then if people who have decided to make the military their career suddenly are looking for jobs.
>> right. and our son is looking to do that and it's very scary, very. >> yeah. greg, your older son, keegan, is in the marines. he's been there for a while. what are you worried about regarding him? >> well, both of our boys are really looking forward to make the military their life, their career. both of them actually forewent college. we have a strong military history in our family. our younger boy, cameron, he's looking to make a career in the mp ranks and like to get into the officer ranks. when you start to see these things happening where officers with ten, 12 years getting their hispanic slips, it's disheartening for him and for me as a father. >> sure. and as well, greg, just the fact that your son, who is a marine proudly serving his nation, he's looking to the future, but
currently, what is he, at the poverty line now or below the poverty line? >> well, he, like a lot of them, when you're in the lower ranks of the military, the e.-1 through e.-4 and 5, all those troops are below the poverty line. i don't think a lot of people in this country understand that. >> yeah. >> that's a sacrifice. >> absolutely is. so vicky, as your youngest, cameron, is thinking about the military, he's now pledged to become part of our military, are you thinking in your heart, maybe this isn't such a good idea. maybe he should think about something else? >> yes, i am. up until this show right now, he didn't know that. we support him 100%, but it's very scary. i mean, you have people getting pink slips that are still in combat and i saw an interview of a military wife worried about where they're going to live because they had planned on
making this their career, their life. here is my son wanting to do that and is like, women. is this how we repay our military? no. we need to take care of them. >> and our vets, steve. one of the things that really upsets us is what's happening with the vets and the veterans administration. when you see secret lists, lies, mail being shredded and people getting bonuses, bonus pay, gift cards, incentive pay and my son who is 17 joins the united states regular army, you know what he got? he was given a t-shirt and a water bottle. some things in this country are pretty upside down right now. you wonder where our priorities are sometimes. >> exactly. >> vicky and greg and greg, a proud u.s. military vet, we thank you very much for joining us today from harrisburg. good luck to cameron, who has got a big baseball project this summer trying to raise money for the wounded warrior project. thank you both.
>> steve, if i could, if your viewers could check out his web site, charity softball game.com. a lot of information on that regarding the wounded warrior project that my son put together. >> you're a good father, getting a plug in for your boy. >> i appreciate that. >> thank you. straight ahead, rent a house and refuse to leave? thanks to government regulations, you might have the right. that's coming up next. right now let's check in with martha mccallum who is joining us today with a show at 9:00 o'clock eastern. >> good morning. turns out lois lerner's hard drive was crashed, but not erased. what is really going on here? the cat and mouse game may be just about over for the irs. a new study says it's fairly easy to get obamacare subsidies, even if you don't exist. we'll tell you about that and new information about the american flags that were mysteriously replaced with plain white ones on the brooklyn
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thanks to our local and national leaders, we've got more than 100 million pages of rules and regulations on the books. and it's not always a good thing. >> time for an example of a case out in california where a guest rented and home and now refuses to leave. they say they have the legal right as squatters. >> joining us is legal expert and author of the rule of nobody, philip howard. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> the rule of nobody, what does that mean? >> it means is we've replaced authority with lots of millions and millions of words. so no one has authority to
balance the budget. nobody has the authority to pull pull -- the teacher doesn't have the authority to run a classroom. >> how bad is it now? you talk about laws being laws and there is no end to these laws. >> yes. it's like a progressive disease. over the last 50 years mainly, detailed regulations and lawsuits, piling up like sediment. now people can't do anything, talk to any mayor, any governor, all these mandates prevent them from making sense of their daily chores. >> they're preventing people from doing their job and enticing people to take advantage of those words and pages of this law, to go after someone for a lot of money. how do we simplify the laws? we see this, doesn't seem like an easy solution. >> it's actually easy conceptually, but we have to change our public debate from arguing about policy to arguing about putting humans back in charge again and having a big clean-up program. >> where do you start? do you start up top or small
towns? in counties and states? >> you can start at any level. school bureaucracy, for example, is a complete nightmare. you can start there. but ultimately federal law which kind of drives the train here. federal law needs to be recodified. you need to go area by area and radically simplify it so people can understand it, number one. and secondly, that it gives people flexibility to actually make sense of daily choices. law is not supposed to replace freedom. it's supposed to be a framework for freedom. >> let's hope congress is listening because they are responsible for a lot of laws that have gummed up the works and now they have the responsibility, you say, to change it. >> they do. but they don't have the idea. it's going to require movement, an outside movement. >> the name of the book is requesting "the rule of nobody."
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here is some good news for you as we have one for the road for you on this wednesday. you know how often do you hear you got to get eight hours sleep? there is a new study out of arizona state university where they say it's not eight hours. it turns out you should get seven hours is actually best. it helps with cognitive performance and 20 minutes less can impair your memory. if you got between 6 1/2 and 7
1/2 hours sleep each night, you actually lived longer. >> wow. okay. the media circus surrounding lebron james to cleveland did not do his neighbors any favors. thousands packed around the streets of his mansion. what did lebron do? he send them all a personal apology with cupcakes. he says he's sorry for the chaos and hope they enjoy the cherry cola treat. >> it's still a good story when you go home. meanwhile, according to a new study published with the journal for activity and health, they asked the question, why are 70% of kids quitting sports before the age of 13? here is what they came up with. it's not about winning or losing. it's about having fun. yep. 81 specific states, some of the reason they played, because of the positions, because they can learn from making mistakes. they can like being around friends. those are the reasons they play sports. it's not to win. >> so cindy lauper is saying girls just want to have fun.
you're saying kids just want to have fun. >> i think that's good. cindy lauper is a great philosopher. >> turns out girls do just like to have fun. >> thanks very much for joining us today. see you back here tomorrow. >> breaking news. test test test test >> that is the same area where nay have been blocked and good morning. i am bill hemmer and welcome back martha. >> good to be back. i am martha maccallum. there is no word on
especially mine. happy mothers day and we'll see you next "fox news" sunday. this is the fox report. tonight, we are learning how they voted, and about violence at the polls. people in eastern ukraine deciding if they will break away and join russia and all eyes on capitol hill right now as we wait to see if democrats will take part in the search for answers about that terror attack on americans at a u.s. consulate in libya. >> i have said from day one, i want this to transcend politics and i want it to inspire trust in you and our fellow citizens. >> the head of a special panel set to get to the bottom of benghazi. vowing to take his investigation wherever the facts lead, but are
congressman's trey gowdy's words enough to get democrats on board. >> i hope he sticks to what he said. the rules will determine if this is a fair process. we can never let this kind of outrage, if all of this true stand in this country. >> the fury growing deeper over the scandal surrounding the veterans affairs. allegations of secret waiting lists. now the question, should the man in charge lose his job? >> as a veteran myself, this is especially offensive. i think let's see what he does right now. does he get on this and make changes? and talking up the 2016 presidential race already, and look who says he's ready. i'm harris faulkner. let's start with ukraine. reports of deadly violence in a polling station at eastern part of that country. the polls are closed now.
one pro russian official call the turnout collossal and while the official results are not expected to come until tomorrow the u.s. and rest of the world are already dismissing them. the u.s. state department is calling it illegal in fact. ukrainians who live inside russia were given kind of an absentee voting right to go to a polling station in moscow. that's despite calls by vladimir putin not to hold that vote. greg, violence at the polls, as i just mentioned, what happened? >> reporter: yeah, harris. that was a big fear all through this day and we saw in heavy security in and around the polling places and it happened. it happened in a town on the western side of the donetsk region. they moved to shut down voting in the place. townspeople blocked them.
they were shooting in the air and some shots in the crowd. local accounts say one dead, one injured. we do not have that confirmed. apparently got too hot in the town and they left. leaving a lot of very angry people there. >> pro russian forces are already saying that they have gotten some early results, so what are they? >> reporter: early results came in just a couple of hours after the polling places closed, harris, with turnout of about 75%. they claim 89% said yes for self-rule, 10% said no in the region above donetsk. you've got to question this very strongly. it was pretty much clear to us during the day it was going to go yes. we can see through the transparent ballot box.
a lot of irregularities. the question of a ballot was purposely vague. our feeling was that if you were not in favor of this, basically, you stayed home. >> you know, it was interesting too, greg, on the wires, they said the information from the polling was coming from pro russian insurgents. we'll have to weight for the official ruling on this. what is next for this region? >> reporter: now, we're basically looking for further reaction, harris. we're already hearing from one separatist leader and he is sounding like he will be announcing on monday there will be a new country here. he wants to establish new national or ganction also key, harris, will be russia.
vladimir putin has been playing a very careful game in this. it was widely thought that he was basically backing this kind of activity. in the past couple of days he distanced himself from it, but we'll be waiting to see what russia says about it, and again ukrainian military here throughout this region, that is a big question mark, and also another big question mark, may 25th, presidential elections, supposed to be happening across ukraine. it's hard to believe it could happen here. a lot of questions, harris. >> just hearing what you are saying, the projection that maybe this is a new country taking form in eastern europe, what about the ukrainians who loved the old one. we'll watch the story. back here in the united states now on the growing scandal surrounding the veterans administration. two separate va facilities in wyoming and arizona accused of manipulating data to try to hide massive backlogs of patients who were waiting for care. at a hospital in arizona 40
veterans died waiting for help. a new temporary director was named there yesterday. in an outcry now to do more to right the wrongs against the men and women who served our country. illinois congressman adam kingser says this is an issue the air force and president obama needs to address together. this is a problem with bureaucracy. the people that really deserve this, those that put their life on the line for our country are the ones who get on the short end of this. >> and what is next in the story? va secretary shinseki who is a veteran of the vietnam war, is expected to testify this week. the topic heats up in our
nation's capitol hill. the other big issue to watch for, the select committee set up to investigate the terror attack on our u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. will democrats make it bipartisan? that panel made official on thursday with seven house republicans. those people were named, and that leaves five spots now open for democrats if they choose to use them. some democrats have said they want to boycott that panel claiming it's politically motivated. something the man leading the investigation, south carolina congressman trey gowdy flatly denies. >> we're going to go where the facts to take. they are not republican or democratic. they are facts. if we engage in a process that's not fair according to the american people, we will be punished as we should be for that. >> steve is live in washington where there's been a lot of
reaction to this tonight, steve. >> you are right. the republicans want to find out what led to the attack and whether the white house was engaged in a coverup after the fact. at different times, you know, the administration said the attack was triggered by an anti muslim video. trey gowdy says there's vital information he needs to gather through the committee process. >> i don't have access to intel. i don't have access to sources and methods. i don't have access -- i've never interviewed susan rice about anything. i've never had an opportunity to ask the secretary of state questions about the lead-up to benghazi and why we were stale there. >> trey gowdy says that hearing is needed to bring -- to break down the barriers among the committees that have gone before and have had hearings and to bring a less fragmented approach to investigating benghazi. >> i know from our reporting there was at least one democrat leader who called it a huge waste of time to be on this
committee. why is that? >> because it's already been investigated, say democrats. form former secretary of state hillary clinton testified. the question is whether democrats will join the committee. >> we've participated in all the other seven investigations, if it's a fair, open, and balanced process, absolutely. what we don't want to see is reckless and irresponsible use of congress and taxpayer money to do these witch hunts. >> no word exactly on when democrats might make a decision on whether to join that select . international intelligence and military advisers are now arriving in nigeria to help with the search for hundreds of missing school girls. the terror group behind those kipgs remains active in the region as we know from this past week. boko haram is the groups name reportedly launching a series of new attacks, kidnapping a family
and toiching -- torching a key bridge so they wouldn't be followed. nigerian police clashing with protesters demanding their return. >> the nigerian police, they are here to stop us from gathering, peaceful assembly. we have constitutional rights to assemble here. we will continue to agitate, protest, ask questions until these girls come back. >> live from the west coast following this, this past week, we learn some details how the united states is going to get involved in this. what's the latest? >> reporter: well we do know the states have sent a team across. they have been joined by the british and french who have sent experts to work out how precisely the west can be involved to assist the nigerian
government. here in the united states, we've seen incredible demonstrates outside the nigerian diplomatic missions. they want to see action from the u.s. government in helping the nigerians who are completely overwhelmed in this. but the question remains just what extent u.s. involvement could be. listen. >> we're going to bring to bear every asset we can possibly use to help nigerian government. i think you look at everything, but there's no intention at this point to be putting any american boots on the ground. >> in nigeria, today, we hear from military experts that the militants that kidnapped the girls have laid land mines in nigeria's jungles in anticipation of foreign special forces could actually move in and try and take them out and rescue the girls. no one is entirely sure what kind of operation could eventually happen. but clearly there was a will by the west to do something there.
that's going to be worked out in the next few days, and i think we will hear that it's probably going to be the british and french troops that get sent in for this kind of mission because there's just no tolerance for the u.s. troops to be involved in anything. >> as you've reported, and we keep reading, there's so much urgency with this because we know the leader of that group says he wants to sell these children so they are trying to move very quickly. thank you very much. right now, and this is something we've been watching this afternoon, and so now as the heating has happened across the country, the late hours in the midwest, it has come to happen, we are seeing some severe storms in our nation's midsection and reports of tornadoes touching down. a full report from the fox weather center, stay close. i ys say be thman with the plan
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philly and they say here's why. several flight attend tants began complaining of nauseous. the flight then diverted to dublin. the national transportation safety board says it's investigating what happened. now an update on that deadly hot air balloon. police recovered the third body from today. the university of richmond identified two of the passengers as members of their athletic staff. and the pilot's dad says his son was at the controls when it drifted into the power line. >> we now know that pilot's name is daniel t. kirk and authorities say he did everything in his power to save his life and the lives of two women on board. as the balloon attempted to land near meadow event park, about 25 miles north of richmond, witnesses recall a horrific scene. the balloon hitting a life power
line, igniting a fire. the pilot opening an vents to keep the balloon from rising as two passengers were seen jumping and falling from the basket. they are concentrating now on locating the balloon wreckage, asking for eyewitness photos and videos. >> we help in the investigation process and that's part of the per issuable evidence that we can gather while we're here. witness statements, pictures that people have taken. we'll look at it all and that will help gather the facts for the investigation. >> the crash, a devastating loss for the university of richmond community. the victims, the woman's basketball associate coach giny doil and natalie lewis. in a statement, the lewis family
saying we are stunned and saddened be beyond any understanding over what has happened to our beloved natalie. the university held a moment of silence yesterday. oftentimes like this there will be a press if safety is an issue overall for this industry, right? because this is something a lot of people like to do on vacations. >> last month, the national trapgs safety board actually recommended stricter regulations. citing, there have been 114 deaths since 1964, but lately a lot of recurring issues and deficiencies in the system. they believe that the faa should regulate the balloon industry just as strictly as they do the plane and helicopter industry.
well, in the spirit of mothers day, a mom who not only took care of her own child, but also helped out his classmates. she's from michigan, and was outraged when they found out her son's school took away his lunch all because of an outstanding cafeteria balance of under $5. >> it was really embarrassing, especially in front of the whole lunchroom. >> i was apauled that he was denied lunch and his lunch taken out of his hand over $5. >> so potentially it could happen to somebody else. she didn't want to see that happen, so she paid the balance for everybody. all 19 students. the balance reportedly came to $200. and to her we say happy mothers day. the gop is getting ready to carry the ball. house speaker john boehner has
announced that select committee to answer questions on the terror attacks which left four americans including our ambassador to libya dead nearly two years ago. seven republicans have been name to participate in that special panel. some democrats are considering boycotting that committee. so what does that say about our current state of affairs on capitol hill? our fox news political insiders will join me. and we want you to tune in and chime in. we want to hear from you. stay with us.
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results show votes for joining russia. injuries were reported. and the gop is taking a stand demanding answers in the benghazi terror attack. house speaker john boehner appointed that seven-respect committee who so as far, getting ready for investigating the attack. it's been nearly two years since four americans were killed at our consulate. political insiders are here and you can join the conversation as always on twitter at f-insiders. john is back from thailand. pat, and doug.
the gang is back together. so good to have you. first question. what is the significance of what we saw happen among the republicans with regard to benghazi this week? >> well, i think, harris, for the republicans this is doing what we've been talking about for a year and a half, which is making a systemic effort to figure out what happened, where the talking points came from, why we didn't have the military response, and most of all, where the president was during the initial hours after the attack. harris, i don't like to use the phrase bottom line, but this is a bottom line initiative by the republicans to do fact-finding. it's fraught with political peril as i'm sure we'll discuss. >> why is the gop finally going hard after these scandals? >> i have one more thing on to doug. why the stone walling by the administration? i mean if an ambassador is
murdered six weeks before our presidential election, you would think the president would want the sympathy of america to be with the administration instead of hiding, they hid right from the get-go everything, hide, obfuscate, change the story, and we've been pounding on this, the three of us, you know, and the speaker finally came around. >> why now? >> i think the last round of emails that came out forced his hand. he had been getting a lot of pressure. had 180 members of the house asking to appoint, and he finally said i have to do it. >> pat, do democrats boycott this thing? >> we're about to see. signing off whether they can have subpoenas. trey gowdy, i thought he made it very clear that he wants a fair investigation.
going to doug's point which is we must -- if this thing looks political, and it's a bunch of republicans doing -- we'll get what the rnc did, being political, the democrats won't -- they will withdraw. they will claim a victory. what is disturbing most of all and i say this to the democrats which is why no one in my party has felt at least some republicans did in watergate, we deserve to know the truth of what happened and i have heard more outrageous spins and lies how there's nothing to know or whatever for the purpose of politics, just as i've heard on the other side, when it involves american security, dead ambassador, dead americans. it is outrageous about our political system. >> i want to to goal now to twitter. if americans could be without that select committee. i want to know why our military did not go in and save them or even capture the terrorists.
americans from polling have taken a great interest in knowing what happened because we lost an ambassador that night. specifically, they want to know whoi our military wasn't engaged. >> let me speak to her point. this is an issue of fact. the general when he testified said that we could have sent our troops in and made an impact. others in the administration say that there was nothing that we could have accomplished by sending troops. it would have taken too long. it's a legitimate factual question that deserves being answered, considered from all perspectives, and i think katie raise ds an issue that the select committee will take up. >> the real issue is why no one has been apprehended or punished. we know who did this for a long time, and the president said we will do something and we haven't. there's so much being hidden and covered up in this -- that involves so many aspects of national security, and american
policy, but those fundamental questions and why there was no effort, you know, the questions -- the president -- one place i know the president wasn't that night was in the situation room, and you would think, you know, we get down to fundamentals. he went to the fund-raiser the next day. what was he doing that night? >> i want to press in on that a little bit. and i listed that among my questions. why is that important? there are times we know when things were done in the national security interest of this country, the president was in the situation room. we know because there are those photo ops so with this particular taking out of an ambassador, that is someone walking out dems accuracy around the world, where was the president if not in the situation room? >> maybe we'll find out. and maybe we'll find out what was the cia doing in benghazi,
why have 30 cia people been forced to sign nondisclosure agreements? >> is that normal? >> no. and they are not allowed to talk to congress or the media and they get polygraphed every month to make sure they are not talking. >> and one would hope that in this investigation, those people would finally be called and subpoenaed to testify because never in this country's -- could you imagine richard nixon could have gotten away with suppressing people from testifying or talking to anyone about watergate? you know, i mean -- >> he sort of tried, pat. >> we mentioned watergate a couple of times. i want to echo pat. i watched congressman trey gowdy this morning with chris wallace. i was very concerned. i don't as a republican want this investigation to be seen as a political witch-hunt. what they did in watergate, the
democrats were smart, and they picked two elderly senior congress people, sam irvine, peter rodino who were very partisan but they didn't act partisan. they were jeanal elderly guys who seemed fair and darrell issa has screwed benghazi up terribly. it's one of reasons that boehner did this is to get this thing away from issa and he gave it tie young second term congressman who out of the blocks on today's show did a good job. >> you are talking about trey gowdy. he's also a veteran prosecutor. roger barnhart says on twitter if democrats fail to participate, to us americans it shows a sign of guilt for a cover-up. >> my take is that could well be the case, if the republicans do a fair minded factual inquiry
without political spin, yes, it could redown to the democrats detriment. >> let's talk about that. john, i want you to get you in here, but i also want to hear from representative trey gowdy from earlier today. let's watch that and i'll get your response. >> for me, i will not raise money on benghazi just like i never raised money using crime victims when i was a prosecutor, and i've asked my colleagues to follow suit, but it would be helpful if our colleagues on the other side of the aisle did not have selective amnesia when it comes to what's appropriate to raise money off of and what is not. >> wow, this is kind of getting off topic here, john. what's happening with this? >> there's a phrase having a political tin ear, which bad politicians have this trait where they just don't connect, and i saw it the other day when
this thing came out, and they asked the speaker three times at a press conference and he wouldn't answer it about the fundraising, what he should have said is i'm the top republican in washington, and by the time this press conference is over, that fundraising is stopping and there will be no more of it. and here we are sunday and i haven't heard yet that it's stopped. >> pat. >> well, it just goes to show you there's no group that can destroy their opportunities more than republicans. i swear to god, the form a circle firing squad. how dumb? how outrajs? the reason we had -- if we had not waited a year and a half and done what we talk about the darrel issa thing and how badly he handled this, and the fact that -- as we said from the beginning, never could get the consistent fact-finding that doug is pointing out without a committee. boehner does that and then he
does -- he sits on his hands on that, and then when with this fundraising of all the things not to do, which we said a week ago is make this political, you are just playing the democrats hand. >> people are furious right now. at least some of them on twitter. they are saying this is political, though. this is already political. that the republicans are not making it political. democrats have done this too in the past. >> that is pat's point and that's absolutely correct. but there's a larger political narrative here. yes, you want to do what's right and we're suggesting, all of us, that that should happen, but the democrats will argue, fp fundraising continues, if it becomes a game of political gamesmanship, rhetorical excess and the like. republicans will say we're concerned about unemployment, imt pleming the affordable care act. that's the real challenge.
>> bottom line this for me, though. because going forward, if the goal is to find out what happened that night in benghazi, libya, you have seven respects that are ready to do it and if the democrats don't want to take part -- i remember a former select committee that 9 democrats on it and only 3 republicans. this is going to be 7 and 5. why are they baching? >> they are unsure of what to do. they are going to do it. >> i don't think they can afford not to. i didn't mean to interrupt you, john. >> i was going to say there's two keywords. fair. the american people will know if this thing is fair or not. if it's rigged, it's ruined. if it's fair, it will go somewhere, and the second one is what's the truth? >> that's the truth. >> that's what we've said from the beginning. that is the issue, these dead american, for god sakes the american people deserve to know the truth and for those people in the mainstream media and members even of my own country who keep saying no one cares,
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we're just a few months away from the mid term elections in congress. the "fox news" political insiders are back. let's start with the trend that you say you are starting to see, pat. >> i think what we're seeing the republicans are leading -- two things are happening, they need six net seats because they lost two in 2012. let us never forget how much they can screw this up, but they need six seats. they have got at least that many in serious contention to take from the democrats. there are seats in play that no one expected ever to be in play, like in oregon, michigan,
colorado is in play. >> iowa. >> all of these states and basically it's a question of tide. now the establishment republicans have done everything they can to squeeze out the tea party crazies. at the same time what they are also doing is running the worst kind of establishment candidates in some cases. i think you can run which is straight politicians. >> all right. i don't like to call people names, if you want to refer to the tea party, i can refer to that. when you alean yat one group, particularly the tea party, you are talking about a younger demographic too. can republicans afford to do that? >> it would be better not to alienate because they have the energy, and what's happening i think in american today, the passion differential is on the favor of republicans.
obamacare, jobs, sluggish economy. now we could throw in benghazi if you want. >> irs. >> irs. >> everything is bad. if you are obama, then there's nothing to run on that jazzs people up. >> yes, there is. the republicans, john, and that's why the prior conversation about benghazi is so important. the democrats best argument is as pat and john have said very clearly is the republicans are overreaching, playing politics and are the party of no. >> let's take a look at that statistic that i know you and i were talking about during the commercial. can we put up those numbers on that polling that shows how people will vote in november and they identify the president in this question. will your vote send a message to the president and if so, how so. message of support, 24%. message of opposition, 30%. why is that critical? >> that means one out of every
three voters, they are going there to vote against the president. the instinct to vote in an off year election because i don't like something is a lot more compelling for voters to turn out. but doug is absolutely right, '98 is a perfect example of that with impeachment, when the republicans overreached so badly that they took a situation that they could not lose in and lost seats. now, i don't think that's going to happen, but in the house, but in these senate races it matters, and again it's back to doug's point saying to john, you know, these people, the republicans need to also stand for something and so far, they are still short on that when it comes to obamacare and the economy. two issues that will probably work for them. >> it's interesting then to see the timing of the republicans getting tough with these scandals. it might play well into what you are saying in terms of shoring up some of that base. before we go to commercial real quickly because you guys are
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rubio was asked today whether or not he considers himself ready to run. he says anterior a lot of people who are and he considers himself ready and he says this. >> if i decide to run for president, i am not have some sort of exit strategy to run for the senate. you don't run for president with a exit strategy. >> when president reagan when he was running, do you think he ever talk about political strategy? never. he talked about here's what we have to do to make the country work well. >> but he was asked about it. >> you've got to use your air time to talk big issues, not about yourself. >> are you giving free advice to marco rubio on fox report tonight? >> we are. >> we've told candidates never talk about political strategy or the polls when you get asked. ever. >> the tea party has put up not
ready for prime time players, to say the least. marco rubio is an example of the exact candidate who actually succeeded. but i want to go back to the last point on mr. benghazi. let me say this to cotton who asked the question. if i believed with my whole heart if these republicans will simply gather the facts, it will be devastating, let the -- connect the dots, let the american people draw the conclusion and that is what barack obama has every reason in my party to fear. because this is not good stuff there. >> real quickly, people on twitter are reacting to your comments about those who could testify being kept from doing so. real quickly. just a response. >> i think that's part of this committee's charge, is that
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let's play "hardball." the r. let's play "hardball." the r. let's play "hardball." the r. let's play "hardball." the r. let's play "hardball." the r. let's play "hardball." the rt good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. why did rove do it? possibly the partisan equivalent of a terror attack. getting the other side so shook off it moves off its game plan. did rove do that, get the clintons ton a fight a year ahead of schedule? did that get bill and hillary out in the streets clamoring, out there looking like the veteran roe partners they intend to be, but way, way ahead of their 2016 schedule? did rove succeed in setting up the health matter just before her book tour to get every tv, radio and reporter to drop the health question wherever the book tour takes her. and finally, did karl rove southerly encourage jeb bush to get into the race by show how ready operatives like him are to do the job on hillary, just like they did the job on michael
dukakis back in 1988. and after all the blowback, could it be that karl rove doesn't mind at all being hated all the more by the left for running alongside the clinton campaign bus lobbing stink bombs in the window as long as it makes him more highly prized on the right, especially by the big money people. david corn is the washington bureau chief for mother jones and is an msnbc political analyst. and the special correspondent "the daily beast." all opinions are relevant because i have been trying to project where this takes us. it's been the week of the attack on hillary's health, whatever that is. has it worked, or even hurt her? what's it all about? rove is going to be around and she's going to be around and bill clinton is going to be around. >> this talking point is not going anywhere. i don't know if this was strategically intended for this particular week, but week by week -- >> he's been doing this for a while. week by week, the clintons are
more and more in the news, particularly hillary, as we get up to the big book release, happening next month. so you see more and more folks on the right as you get closer to 2016 trying to take shots at hillary. now, i think what rove wants to do here, he doesn't want to win the case. you know, he actually made a mistake by talking about brain damage and going too far and having to qua zi apologize. >> he said brain injury, would that have been smarter? >> i think it would have. he wants to create background noise so this question linger, hovers. people have to ask her. >> we've seen this so many times. they did it to dukakis with the psychiatrist. >> it's not at all unexpected. and it's going to continue to come up. and actually, though, in one way or the other, she will have to address this the way that john mccain and ronald reagan did. they did it more with rumor, but this is an issue. >> let's go where we were six months ago. hillary clinton comes off a pretty sterling performance as
secretary of state. worked hard, went millions of miles. became first name basis with these world leaders. she's up here as an icon, not a politician. is she still an icon? >> it drags her back down into the political -- >> they're dragging me back in again. every time i get out. >> a little bit like that. but that's inevitable. if she runs she's going to become a political figure again. >> it's may 2014. she's expected to announce in 2015? >> early 2015, maybe. we've got to talk about it. it's going to standard happening and it has happened. when rove walks into a crowd, not like this little crowd, but somebody on the pretty far right money people, is he well received now. is he seen as a guy who, okay a little dirty? but he gets the job done. >> the group that he started, american crossroads had a big problem.
they didn't win the races they were in last time. i know from talking to people on the right that his group did not do the internal autopsy that convinced people that they knew what to do next time. but that said, all karl rove needs is one or two texas billionaires, that's always been his go-to gang, to fund whatever he wants to do snex next. so they're still out there. he'll rope them in and they will appreciate this attack. >> who else is a riding, roping cowboy like this guy. this is lee atwater stuff. $103 million lost on every single race. is there a fee in this? he places these ads. does he get 7%? >> of course he does. but he lost every single race. >> the husband of outed cia officer valley plame has his own
history with rove. wilson took rove to task for engaging in his old dirty tricks. in the long run, wilson says they will backfire. african-americans, gays, women have long since fled the republican party as poll after poll have shown. but rove is still practicing his old treks by attacking hillary clinton, he seems to do short term damage, but what about the long-term damage he's done and is doing to his own party? by 2016, rove will have succeeded in alienating millions of more through his revolting tactics. my question to you, the question of mike is this -- i thought that hillary had almost reached the point of untouchability and that wasn't going to last. but this guy is now -- is he going to pay the price? and who cares. >> are the republicans going to pay the price for his behavior? >> the republicans are going to pay the price.
i don't think this resonates outside of the echo chamber. the echo chamber is a,rah, rah, rah. but with others it's going to produce a little sympathy for hillary clinton, if anything. >> but still, the republicans may not learn their lesson this time around. and hillary clinton is a great candidate in a lot of ways but also a candidate with problems and she is beatable by the right republican. >> she point out for the nirs time, i think it was her piece that we now know the rollout plan for the clin tons, the book tour. get a lot of positive ink about her role as secretary of state. really focusing on those four years. then apparently she's going to play a major role in the fall like dmix son did in '56. pick out the clinton favorites. peck out those ones, they win,
she gets the record as well as bill with being in the winners. >> she did this in 1998 and 2000. >> schumer in new york. >> and others. she had a great record. a great won/loss record in 1998 and that helped her be a much more impressive senatorial candidate in 2000. >> i dependent know until this thing happened. >> you know why this is important, she hasn't campaigned in a long time. micks is always evolving, it's always different. the role she is played as secretary of state -- >> is it giving nice speeches where everybody cheers? or letting people ask you questions. it it's both. it's having a message and a vision. it's going elsewhere and it's doing it -- you know what, i'll book it -- doing it not just
once a week, it's doing it every day over and over again. so she needs to get back up. >> that's always been my concern about any politician that leaves the field for eight years. you're not into the zeitgeist. every time you try a speech in the old days, nice try. >> that's why she goes out this fall. the conservative attack on hillary clinton, charles krauthammer insisted that hillary clinton's popularity is vastly overstated. let's watch charles. >> i think the democrats gross ly jor estimate how popular hillary is. she may be popular with them, but they assume -- >> she hasn't been out in the field. she hasn't been challenged in debate. she's a non -- she's not an officer holder right now.
so she's not subject to slips. you go back over her record and you have somebody asking very simple correct and tough questions, number one, name a single achievement in your four years as secretary of state. >> if you need more clues, the right sees hillary as a threat, look at reince pribus' twitter account. tweeted about hillary no fewer than five times in the last 24 hours. her failures at the state department are evident. also the hard choices led to bad decisions and bad outcomes. plus, here's another tweet. where hillary clinton goes, the donor scandals will follow. and the state department says hillary clinton could have acted on boka haram sooner. should she be trusted with hard choices?
that's the title of her upcoming memoir. >> charles krauthammer what is he up to? >> he's taking the benghazi cool aid. >> 66% ceiling. i have never seen a ceiling -- >> this is the point you made earlier. as secretary of state in that cabinet of rivals, team of rivals, her popularity just really went very high. now the question is, as she gets back into partisan politics, which a lot of americans tend not like, is she going to come down a bit? she will. the question is, how far? >> by the way, you're not answering the right question. you're a smart guy, but you're not answering it. charles didn't say she'll end up being unpopular. he says she's unpopular now and that's not true. >> look at the number, charles, look at the polls.
she's ahead of everybody 10, 12, 14 points. that's been done to no effect when she ran for president. legislatuors don't usually do something. this morning, hillary clinton showed up on the view to bid farewell to barbara walters. the former secretary of state had advice for the entirery news -- i don't think we say newswoman, but it's on script here. how about correspondent. here we go. >> first of all, take some time off. i mean, really -- >> you're in no position to tell me. >> that's what i've been doing. >> take some time. you have a wealth of friends who adore you. spend time for them. take a real vacation. i go out with my dogs. my husband and i take long walks. just let down and enjoy.
for a week at least. >> as long as you're here, let me ask you a question. the question i want to ask is are you going to run, but -- >> well, i am running around the park. >> that appearance did not hurt the former first lady. >> no. >> that's what she's got to do more of. >> politicians don't usually get to do that before they run. they usually do that if they lose. >> do we have time? >> quick. >> it makes me think about something. democrats always win women, but republicans win white women. watch that if she's the candidate. >> you may not be the last person to say that. white women will vote for hillary. coming up, i don't think they ale get together on it. you would think the tea partiers would have a good shot of winning the sflat and pushing it to the right, but it turns out they have a problem with the likely concerted republican winners. to too liberal by their
standar standards. also, do you remember this by the republican gubernatorial debate, not just the establishment candidates, but the fringier ones as well. >> hey diddle diddle right up the middle. that's my style. >> you have your choice, folks. a cowboy, a curmudgeon, a biker or a normal guy. take your pick, thank you very much. >> normal wasn't good in that case. that was harley, harley brown. and how could we help but invite him on to "hardball." he's going to join us later in person. plus, speaking of people on the fringe, right wing so-called patriot groups promise 10 million to 30 million of them would deaccepted scend on the w right. about ten people more or less did show up. finally what we can expect now that the starter's gun has gone off way ahead of schedule in the presidential race. this is "hardball."
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primari primaries. the most recent sidelined, the gop is eyeing full control of the congress, maybe even the senate. the tea party, instead of declaring victory right now is signalling it's ready to go to war with the republican party itself. again, "the washington post" reports today that a number of conservative leaders are gearing up for a fight with republicans who they fear will betray them once they get into office, especially when it comes to fiscal issues like the budget or social issues like immigration. they fear elegislature the republican, even if they succeed in retaining control of the house and winning the senate majority would cast aside the core conservative base. at a recent meeting, conservative leaders drafted their demands that included things like married moms and bads are best at raising kids. support for anti-abortion legislation and a balanced budget amendment. at that pleating, c imeeting te crowd, yay, our team is winning,
but we win when we stand for principle and we lose when we give in to washington's status quo. on activist summed it up and said conservatives ought not to delude themselves. if republicans win it will somehow be a conservative majority. we have the experts here. the author of "don't hurt people and don't take their stuff" a libertarian manifesto. and a national political reporter with "the washington post." that's your report. and i guess, what is it that you believe the hard right is worried about the center right doing if they get control. >> i was at ritz kacarlton hote and they were skiddish that should republicans take the senate there's going to be movement on immigration reform, there's not going to be a lot of
attention paid to social issues and there's not going to be a bold conservative agenda like cruz would like to see and mike lee would like to see. there was a fear that republican establishment is ascending and the tea party, popular with the base just doesn't have the power it wants to have. >> what's the fear? what's your fear? >> i'm actually more optimistic about it. i think we're defining the agenda. you're seeing even someone like thom tilus, he's come in our direction. he's run on that issue. we've reset the table. >> i think you have. you made that point, too. what was once called -- well, there's no more jake javitz. that wing of the party. no more arlen specters around. those republicans you called rinos are gone. there. >> a difference in temperament, style and strategy. not ideology. >> i think you guys, i think the
reason there is a tea party is a very legitimate concern that the government is wasting money. they're spending money on things people can't -- it doesn't make sense to regular working people. regular working people have to balance their books. why can't the dan government do it. i get that. there's also this sort of maybe ethnic, maybe just nationalistic attitude about illegal immigration. i think they will go crazy if speaker boehner cuts a deal that basically offers some route to legal status legally. doesn't that bother you? >> i think it would be a huge mistake to pass dick durbin's bill and that's the mistake marco rubio made. i think the problem is we can't work with harry reid, we can't work with barack obama. frankly we don't trus them. >> don't trust them to enforce the law after they get them? >> no, i don't trust them to negotiate an honest bill. >> what do you suspect that they would do to undermine the effect of this immigration reform? everybody knows what it's about,
especially in the southwestern part of the united states. everybody knows what it's about. too many immigrants, too fast, whatever. ethnic differences are obviously part of it. but here's the question, what are you afraid of? what deal are you afraid of? >> i'm afraid they won't fix the problem. the problem has to be, if you want people that want to come here honestly and work and follow the rules, you should fix prospectively the opportunity to do that. the senate bill doesn't do that. it focuses on who controls politically the people who came here illegally. the problem is if the house wrote the best immigration bill, one that i could support, it goes to conference, harry reid rolls them and we get a really bad bill. that's something we just can't do. >> how does that square with your reporting? >> it's real. >> they do the internal whip counts, the numbers aren't there. the numbers aren't even really there for a piecemeal bill that eric cantor wants to do. >> is there any chance that speaker boehner here -- objective reporting here, will
boehner try something in june with this little window we hear about? or will he try something in a lame duck? >> much more likely in a lame duck. he knows he has to get the base energized in the midterms. >> would he pass a bill after the election is over? >> that's never been his style. i'm not going to rule it out as a surprise. >> are you worried about that? fast numbers like november 15. >> i think john boehner is a short-timer. i think he's looking at what he's going to do next in his life. >> you think that time down in florida meant something? >> that's the biggest rumor. boehner is maybe on his way out. but a lot of what boehner says when he says he's keeping it as an option, he's signalling to the wiz community in the republican party he's not ruling it out. >> you don't trust these guys, do you? >> well, why would you? >> they made a lot of promises and they haven't been willing to keep them. the tension between the
grassroots and the gop establishment goes back to 1976 when ronald reagan took on a sitting president. >> how do you move away from same-sex marriage? you could have a religious difference with it, many religions do. not all. mine does. but people are gay. they're supposed to get married to other people of the opposite sex. what would that accomplish? you say your family values. what is a gay person supposed to do? marry someone in a fake marriage that doesn't involve physicality or that kind of love? what are you advertising? what do you want to happen here? >> i'm a libertarian, i don't understand why government, particularly the federal government is involved -- >> you don't mind states approving same-sex marriage. >> i don't want the government out of it. >> no, states. how do you do it without licenses. >> marriage is is a social institution. >> so you're saying you don't need a state license to get
married? >> i don't think so. >> some people like rand paul are advocating that right now. >> get rid of marriage licenses? >> no, more of a libertarian slant within the party when it comes to -- >> i agree with that. but prayer in school. that's not libertarian. how do you support that? all kinds of religions there and you're going to read the king james version of the bible. >> i would love parents to decide how kids are educate popped. >> in public schools? >> why don't you give patients a choice? >> who decides which religion you are. >> if the parents don't like what's being taught in a public school, should they get a choice to send their kid to a parochial school, yes. now it's top down. >> so you're for school choice? >> fabsolutely. >> they talked about school prayer yesterday. >> you just slipped off, whether they should. reading christian bible readings. >> i do not want politics determining school curriculums. i want parents to. >> you don't want prayers in
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>> there's nothing that gets me more m excited than a political rivalry. bush v gore, bush v bore, bush v door. >> welcome back to "hardball." time now for "the side show." that was steve colbert on some of the great political rivalries. one that's been added to the list this week, hillary clinton versus karl rove. >> this is a serious scandal because rove's conjecture is based on solid facts. hillary clinton did go to the hospital after a concussion in 2012, and she later exhibited some very strange behavior in her benghazi testimony. she had a mastery of the facts and an unshakable confidence, all while wearing those stupid glasses. i mean, they're like, these
things are like orthopedic shoes for your face. you would have to be brain damaged to wear those. or nearsighted, which i believe is caused by brain damage. >> well, hillary wasn't wearing those glasses when she appeared on "the view" for barbara walters' final show today. she talked about what the former secretary of state has been up to and what she's doing to prepare for her role as a grandmother. >> i love your daughter. >> oh, my gosh. >> what do you want to be called? >> do you like nana? do you like president clinton? >> the great barbara walters, still working the story. next, the protest group operation american spring descended on washington today. leaders were promising millions would gather to overthrow the government. and remove president obama from office. well, the group says government leaders have, quote, abandoned the u.s. constitution and are unworthy to be retained in the
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>> welcome back to "hardball." there's been hot political stories this week. most notably karl rove versus clinton story. the other big story is the firing of "the new york times" executive editor jill abramson. appropriately or not, it's raised the issue of pay fairness again and it recalls a scene from ron howard's great movie "the paper" where glenn close, playing the newspaper's managing editor confronts the paper's publisher asking for a raise. >> well, i won't waste your time. the fact of the matter is i have other offers. >> didn't we just renegotiate your contract? >> recently, yeah, but my deal is up in a little under a year. >> 18 months, isn't it? >> technically that would be more accurate, but, you know -- >> i'll tell you what.
if you have other offers, you have my permission to pursue them. but don't come to me again without talking to bernie first. i don't like it. it's cheap. okay? are we done? >> graham, i don't think you -- i would love it if you weren't here. >> joining me now, in a race to regain the pennsylvania district in the house she once representative. marjorie, thanks for joining us. you know, when i sthau movie, it struck me that this probably has a lot different feelings coming out from men or women. the idea of a woman asking for a pay raise, but accidentally walking with the publisher into the men's room and finding herself in that strange situation where she's
outnumbered in the wrong gender role as she's sitting in there, it just struck me, that much really get to women who are professionals. damn it, they must have an attitude about this. and what does this say about pay equity? >> i agree with you. and this is -- the pay equity, we're still about -- we're going up at 70 cents on the dollar for white -- for the average. but african-americans are at 77% and latinas, or the hispanic community, the women are at 56 cents to the dollar. but more than that, women really -- they don't ask for raises. typically, it's true. women kind of feel, well, we're doing a good job, we should be recognized, thank you very much. women don't ask typically for raises. the other thing is we grow up
still with stereotypical images. you know, these are the kinds of jobs that we'll be safe to go to, or that you should get -- although that's definitely changing. but once we get there, we find in the news business, many, many more women are on television. but still, the numbers in the executive offices, it doesn't -- it doesn't reflect the numbers that should be there. >> i've got to tell you, nbc is doing very good at that department. we have our top people all over the news area, all over the news business, generally find all the women in the top positions and all around us, with lots of vice presidents. but beth, i'm not here to flap for nbc. it doesn't need it.
it has pay equity has something to do with her being sack popped. >> all of us who are professional women, i think this story has the legs that it does. it's something we all contend with scene a huge frustration for us. but on the other hand, let's keep our eyes on the prize, jill abramson, those of us in television news, we have a good job with good salaries. the real problem is for women who are in the lower classes, working women, working class people, they, too, are discriminated against in terms of salary. and it really brings down their family income, their household income. it hurts the economy. they have less money to spend. it's so engrained in the way that we do business in this country that nobody thinks abc the overall repercussions that it has on a family and the economy. >> i wonder how much this conversation is going to encourage more women, not that they weren't already there to vote for hillary when the time comes. today, hillary clinton addressed
pay inequity. let's listen in. you respond to this marjorie. >> mothers are now the primary or soul breadwinners in nearly 40% of all families. this single mom lives in our vast metro sprawl, traveling long distances every day to work a low wage job she's lucky to have. many other young people in her neighborhood are still looking. she works hard but she knows that her male co-workers tend to make more than she does. it's demeaning and demoralizing and it shortchanges her whole family. >> her whole family. marjorie, your reaction to that? >> and it's shortsighted. if we are going to make the next steps, what we have to do is we've got to grow our way out of this economic situation. when did we last do it? we did it in '93, frankly.
when 24 million new jobs grew in the '90s after the clinton budget passed. that's where we have to -- that's where we strong -- and we have to figure out what it means to grow the economy with women. we've got to make sure there's transportation, job training, that there's day care. and we know that when we do that, the middle class grows. and when the middle class grow, more money is spent. >> i like my wife making more money. why wouldn't anyone want their space to make more money? there's always a little rivalry theoretically, but when it comes to the paycheck, it all adds to the family income. you know, it would seem, why aren't men joining in this fight to help women get more money? >> there's no transparency around what people make. nobody knows what anybody sitting next to them is making. businesses make sure that those
kinds of discussions don't happen. so we don't really know how to -- we don't know how to negotiate because we don't know what anybody sitting around us is making. >> did you ever know what your dad was making? i never knew what my dad -- i can't imagine that coming up in the house. >> i would ask and they would not tell me. >> it was off the record. good luck right there. i would be up there voting for you, of course. if i was up there now. >> you would have such a good time, chris. northeast, i mean, you would be -- you would such a good time. we're in there. >> marjorie, i ran for that seat 30 years ago. >> wow. >> thank you very much. good luck to you. beth, thank you very much for coming on from our network. the wild gubernatorial debate in
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>> we're back. it was 40 years ago i ran for that house seat in pennsylvania. 40 years ago. house seat in pennsylvania. 40 years ago. wednesday's republican primary debate for governor in idaho received national attention after a couple of lesser known candidates stole the show and turned the forum into a viral sensation. ample proof that in this country anyone can run for run for office and make noise. butch otter and russ fultur, and walt bays, and the man that proved to be the main attraction, harley brown. harley has been his legal name since 1996. the leader of a local biker club. here are some of his notable one liners from the debate. >> don't think i'm crazy because i'm not. as it says in my motorcycle club, hey diddle fiddle, right up the middle.
that's my style. we bikers, discrimination to cops, we are cop magnets, like a playboy bunny wearing a mini skirt gets hit on all the time. they pull us over without probable cause. i don't like political correctness. can i say this? it sucks. it is bondage. >> changed the pace of it this friday evening. joining us now, for his national television debut, the man himself, harley brown. here is your chance to sound off. i want to know what you don't like about this country, what you'd like to fix, if you get elected president which i understand is your ultimate goal. >> my daddy and his generation won world war ii, gave us a free world. us baby boomers, man, we had the best motorcycles, best cars, best cartoons, best tv shows and by far the best music, ram a
lamb a ding dong, rock and roll is king. we have a national vet wound up into the stratus fear, $17 trillion. my grandson was born a couple months ago, his share of it is $55,000. i don't like that. >> okay, you're president of the united states tomorrow morning. you're sworn in. what are you going to get rid of? what government programs? >> the commies. two-thirds of federal government is social programs. where in the constitution does it say we have to give all this money out to everybody, provide health care to everybody. i would give a swag, a scientific wild ass guess that 90% of what the feds do is as unconstitutional as the communist manifesto. where does it say we have to have department of labor, department of education, department of energy, and even
two of my favorites, the va and nasa. but the end run around that, put them under the air force, keep them going. but do it under the war department, which is authorized in article 1, section 8, as a function of we the people and the states who create it. >> where is the air force in the constitution? >> the army air corp. >> where is that in the constitution? 1789, the constitution, where was the air force. >> all right, put it back under the army air corp, the b-17s that worked over nazi germany. i wouldn't mind having the army air corp again. >> what do you make of the language in the constitution in the preamble that says we should promote the public welfare of the country? what did they mean by promote the public welfare? you say it is not in the constitution. what does that mean?
>> that word welfare has been contorted out of shape and the liberals interpret it as giving money out to everybody that needs it or wants it, and that's not the way the original intent was. >> you mean the way you contort an army out of shape to include an air force? >> a few things changed in the late '40s. ever since world war ii, this country, like these piis ant wars, vietnam, the gulf, you declare war, wipe out your enemies, period. that's the way i read it. >> you think we should have killed all the north vietnamese? >> hell yeah. first declare war, then use every weapon we have to annihilate the enemies. never send a marine when you can send a bullet and send the biggest bullet you got. >> harley, take a minute, list politicians in your lifetime you
respect, presidents going backwards, the last president you respected, going backwards. tell me who you liked in american history positively? >> okay, i liked reagan, i liked general eisenhower. i admire harry truman for having the georgia union tight to push the button. i like ulysses s. grant, george washington, abraham lincoln, arguably the best presidents we had. teddy roosevelt, booey. however he interpreted the presidential powers. >> you're on the ballot. see what people think of your candidacy. we will be right back after this. that are powered by the moon. ♪ she can print amazing things, right from her computer. [ whirring ]
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cur curry, then nhl stanley cup finals game one between the rangers/kings. on the broadcast tonight, celebration cancelled. stunning news from bowe bergdahl's hometown, plus what we learned about that dramatic moment of freedom caught on camera. u.s. forces face-to-face with the taliban. burning questions being answered tonight with hillary clinton's revealing about 2016, her health and the health of her husband and what she has to say about monica lewinsky. flying blind, a growing danger for pilots and passengers nationwide from lasers on the ground. how the fbi is fighting back. >> against all odds, a towering achievement today for one of the most inspiring teenagers you will ever meet. "nightly news" begins now.
>> from nbc news world headquarters in new york, this is "nbc nightly news" with brian williams. good evening everyone. i'm ann curry in for brian tonight. as we're seeing for the first time, the moment caught on videotape when bowe bergdahl was freed and taken into the protection of u.s. special forces after almost five years in captivity. the video which u.s. officials believe is real was shot by the taliban and is revealing what it captures and what it does not. we begin with our pentagon correspondent who walks us through the dramatic hand off, jim? >> reporter: first, ann, there is late word tonight that bergdahl's hometown of hailey, idaho had to cancel an event to celebration his return. there is concern with the attention paid to his story, local police just don't have the resources necessary to handle any potential problems. and today, something we rarely see, a taliban video showing bergdahl's release to american military forces. the taliban video released today records bowe bergdahl's final
moments in captivity. bergdahl seen sitting in a pickup truck is blinking and rubbing his eyes like they were adjusting to the sun light. >> he's clearly blinking his eyes because he was blind folded on the way over so he could not relay to the special forces operations the route. >> reporter: clean shaven, he appears disoriented but in physically good condition. as helicopters circle above, americans are in radio contact to avoid fatal mistakes. taliban fighters cover the surrounding hills armed with rocket propelled grenades that could take down a helicopter there are three dozen special operations forces within striking distance as well as attack helicopters and an armed drone just in case. >> they understand what they are carrying. >> reporter: one taliban fighter leans in to give bergdahl a final warning, do not come back
to afghanistan. finally bergdahl's ride arrives. as the black hawk helicopter lands, they above out. three americans cautiously approach and get close enough to barely touch hands with the taliban. >> you can see the man -- as we view on the left there, he uses his left hand, i think he's probably a right handed shooter and he doesn't want to compromise his ability to go for his weapon. >> reporter: one american brushes bergdahl's back, checking for a possible suicide bomb vest. bergdahl keeps a steady pace as they make their way to the chopper. before boarding, there is a more thorough pat down for weapons and explosives. less than 60 seconds after they landed the americans take off and for the first time in five years, bowe bergdahl is safely
back in american hands. tonight pentagon officials report bergdahl will have to remain at the u.s. military hospital in germany longer than expected. the reason for the delay is not clear, and his homecoming could now be delayed into next week, ann. >> jim, thanks. in the meantime the political fallout continues for the obama administration. our political director chuck todd is traveling with the president overseas. chuck, good evening. >> good evening ann. hagel called bergdahl's parents today with an update on their son's health. white house aids continue to do damage control with members of congress upset about not being consulted before the prisoner swap. they are finally briefing the entire senate today. meanwhile, back here a new war of words has broken out against president obama and russian president vladimir putin.
today it was a forceful president obama declaring an attack on one nato member is an attack on all. he was sending the message, russian aggression in ukraine would not be tolerated if armed at nato. putin accused america of being the real aggressor, noting it's american troops that are stationed all around the world. this putin obama spat is giving the french president a headache. he's hosting both men to commemorate the 70th anniversary of d-day. he had to schedule two dinners tomorrow night. one for obama at 7:00 and one for putin at about 9:30. >> chuck todd thank you for covering that tonight. a severe storm system moving across the country that is already causing significant damage in the midwest is tonight packing hail and heavy rain as it cuts across the ohio and tennessee valleys.
we get more on this from katy tur in cincinnati. >> reporter: a massive storm slammed the midwest today causing flash floods in ohio, missouri and iowa after pounding nebraska and much of the heartland late tuesday. >> it was horrifying. >> reporter: in omaha, five inches of rain fell in one day triggering dozens of water rescues. storm chasers in nebraska caught this show on camera. a straight line windstorm that lifted debris high into the air and send down hail the size of softballs that battered homes. >> look at the siding, blasted off. >> reporter: and damaged cars. on the highways, winds of up to 70 miles an hour. >> we just stumbled upon this about five minutes ago. a semi completely flipped. >> reporter: 52 cars over. they were blown over but no reports of injuries. >> it's already an active night and parts of the south and all 17 states impacted by severe hail, wind and possibly a tornado.
>> reporter: putting more than 15 million americans on guard, katy tur, nbc news, cincinnati, ohio. tonight a revealing interview from hillary clinton who allowed a photographer in her home and talked for the first time in years about monica lewinsky and also, about her health and the decision she says she still has to make. we get more tonight on this from kelly o'donnell. ramping up her already super charged visibility. >> thank you, thank you. >> reporter: hillary clinton has plenty to say. >> stay tuned. >> we will. >> when i know, you'll know. >> reporter: a book, hard choices out next week with its trailer of sorts. >> my views about what we needed to do to restore american leadership. >> reporter: and on news stands this friday, she's on the cover of people magazine but on that one big question clinton offers more to read.
she says we need to break down the highest, hardest glass ceiling in american politics. a first woman president. i would love to see that happen, but i'll just have to make my own decision what i think is right for me. clinton turns the question about her health, the fall, blood clot and concussion into the paul ryan asking him at the inauguration have you ever had a concession? three at least. were they serious? he said one was really serious. >> she said hey, paul ryan has had lots of concussions. so she's immediately deflecting this noise around the health questions for herself. >> reporter: clinton takes the asked and answered approach. i certainly have moved on, adding, i'm not going to comment on what did or didn't happen. i think everybody needs to look to the future.
asked about her husband's health, she said he has enormous energy. from admitting to totally bing viewing the political drama "house of cards" clinton's free time is about to change. a first grandchild expected this fall. >> babies are special political creatures. it will certainly provide a whole new set of images we've never seen of her before. >> reporter: adding dimension the her political identity. kelly o'donnell, nbc news, washington. late word the sell of the la clippers appears to be a done deal. donald sterling's attorney tells nbc news sterling and his wife have both now agreed to sell the team to microsoft billionaire steve balmer, all disputes and outstanding issue haves been resolved and donald sterling has agreed to drop his lawsuit against the nba. tonight the fbi is asking for help from the entire country
in finding and arresting anyone who points a laser at an aircraft. it's a serious problem with nearly 4,000 reports last year of helicopters and planes being targeted with lasers, bought off the shelf or over the internet. it's a growing risk for pilots and for passengers. >> reporter: it was in the skies over st. louis that a police helicopter was hit with a laser pointer from the ground. >> right now we're getting hit pretty good with a green laser. >> you're getting hit with a green laser. >> reporter: it's happening nationwide. since 2005, an 1100% increase in reports of aircraft being targeted by lasers. 11 times a day last year alone. the green lights illuminate dark cockpits, temporarily blinding them. >> the laser light and the effect it has on you in a darker cockpit is intense. >> reporter: the ghost guard
called off rescue missions after its pilots were targeted a. felony punishable by five years in prison, the fbi is offering a $10,000 reward for information that leads to the arrest of anyone involved. >> there are hundreds and hundreds of people's lives at stake when people elect to shine lasers at airplanes. again, it's not funny. it's not a joke. >> reporter: most often planes are targeted when taking off or landing overnight. the airports with the most laser incidents in 2013, lax with 344 reports followed by more than 200 in phoenix and san francisco and then portland, miami and houston. >> i could probably walk into a crew room at a busy airport and ask how many pilots have been hit by a laser and i could see a significant number of hands go up. that's the extend of the problem.
>> reporter: of the dozens of people convicted for laser tagging an aircraft. the fbi says most are teens or adult men who had no idea what they were doing was illegal with the potential for disastrous consequences. tom costello, nbc news, washington. today is the 25th anniversary of a massacre, the 1989 crack down. tonight in hong kong, tens of thousands gathered to remember what the chinese government has long tried to erase from memory. in beijing, lockdown, activists detained the internet and social media center. it crushed the movement and left hundreds, perhaps thousands dead. it also left the unforgettable image of when man still unidentified facing with a symbol of defiance. raising questions for parents what kids are doing online. overcoming obstacles with a
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think about a 12-year-old. magnify how difficult it is for adults times 20. >> reporter: we skyped with amy who was surprised to know her kids knew about slender man. >> my kids know how to find things i can't find, obviously, because they found slinder man. >> reporter: the middle school has filters on the computers, but creepy pasta, the site where many stories about slender man appear was never blocked before this weekend. >> there wasn't any real violence or pornography, nothing would have hit our filter, nothing would have alarmed us. >> website crazy pasta posted a statement saying only a small minority of people, newcomers truly believe what they read here and an attorney for one of the accused told us late today he wants a mental health evaluation, done on his young
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student but especially for this 18-year-old who lived most of his life on the edge between anxiety and despair. his mother died of cancer when he was six years old, soon afterward, griffin, his father and older brother ended up living in homeless shelters. >> tell me about your mom. >> she wanted the best for me and my brother and i remember most her spirit. >> reporter: for awhile the family had a rental home but financial hardships persisted. just before finals and ap exams, he was homeless again. >> i would think to myself at night, do i continue to do this or make something of myself. >> reporter: his girlfriend's parents put him up for awhile and then he moved in with an aunt and uncle. >> he never asked anyone for anything. he did this by himself because he wants a better life. >> reporter: through the ups and downs he never missed a day of school and kept his struggles to himself. >> he is remarkable and loves to learn. >> reporter: and loves baseball.
>> you have hard work in your cap. >> never give up inspires me to do great. >> reporter: his hard work paid off. griffin was accepted to florida state university. through an online fundraising website, friends have raised more than $69,000 to help him pay for college. overwhelmed, griffin says the only thing missing now is his mom. >> i just want her to hear my speech and know that without her none of this is possible. >> it's amazing what you can do with your life when you have motivation, ambition and most importantly, a purpose. thank you. >> reporter: with plans to study civil engineering in college, griffin is committed to succeed. today he's well on his way. rehema ellis, nbc news, jacksonville, florida. >> go griffin go. that's our broadcast for
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