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To overturn the election results. again, we dont know if those state legislators are yet among the 400 that the committee has talked to, so what is revealed sometimes in these subpoenas is part of what they have pieced together, and i wonder your thoughts before anyone falls over the cliff of, well, rudy wont talk, it feels like from these subpoenas already, they have a whole lot of information around this effort of trying to manipulate state legislators to send in alternate electors. >> yeah, i...

Soon. we are out of preseason and we want to know how to prevent that from happening. i think that the argument -- if you are prosecuting a case -- dan knows 100 times more about this than i do. you can build a paper case. sometimes it matters more there are some cases that are paper cases. they want to produce all of the paper they can. it has been a big 24 hours for that if the courts continue to rule the way they are ruling on the question of executive privilege. but on the question of making...

You dont call a special-grand jury, and begin proceedings there because you still have questions about whether or not a crime was committed. the answer to that, i think, folks in new york are very clear on. the issue that remains is who? and whether theyll be able to go all the way to the top of the food chain and indict the former president. perhaps, they already know the answer to that. perhaps, right now, theyre stuck at the cfo level with allen weisselberg, who it doesnt seem, yet, has made ...

Jury and begin proceedings there because you still have questions about whether or not a crime was committed. the answer to that i think folks in new york are very clear on. the issue that remains is who. and whether theyll be able to go all the way to the top of the food chain and indictment the former president, perhaps they already know the answer to that, perhaps right now theyre stuck at the cfo level with allen weisselberg who it doesnt seem yet has made a decision to flip and cooperate wi...

Boardroom existed for "the apprentice," scenery at nbc where its in cold storage. that said, alan weisselberg was everything to that organization. how do you think hes feeling in this about now? >> well, im sure this news is not welcome to him. hes somebody who is very much in the cross hairs. as chief financial officer for the trump organization, he is in position to know an awful lot about the finances. what weve heard from mikele michael cohen, inflate some purposes and deflate for tax return...

Allen weisselberg was everything to that organization. how do you think hes feeling in this right about now. >> im sure the news is not welcome to him. he was someone in the crosshairs as the chief financial executive for the trump organization. he knows an awful lot about the finances. remember from michael cohen, the trump organization when inflate the value of -- assets for purposes and decrease it for tax returns. its a paper case. you can look at the documents and see they both cant be true...

Just opened up a whole new avenue of hurt, legally, if he really wants to assert that he relied on cohen. i dont think thats going to work, and i dont think its wise. >> i want to get all of you on the record about allen weisselberg. he ran the money at trump organization. a narrow immunity deal with the southern district of new york. what he is on tape, what he is referenced to on the secret recording from trump was basically someone who processed invoices. so in the manafort indictment, you gu...

Crack into a very closely held corporation or set of corporations that had never really been -- had any public exposure to anything. so trying to find people who had been in and around that empire was a great challenge. and then getting them to talk. and then getting records that had never been public before, that was the real heavy lift. once we had all that, it was kind of colossal forensic analysis of just hundreds of tax documents and ledgers and, you know, i read a book on real estate accou...

These are financial crimes. if im not a financial expert or a legal expert, it might take me a while to go through all of the charges and all the documents and all the evidence to make sure im the dog those "i"s and crossing those ts. >> tax cases are paper cases, so theyre really not terribly complicated. it seems daunting because of the amount of paper and the numbers and the complexity of the numbers. but ultimately where we talk about rick gates being the focal point of this case, this reall...

To the 27 witnesses which testified for the government, including key witness rick gates, manaforts former right-hand man. the prosecution produced 367 exhibits compared to just 12 for the defense. lets bring in our legal experts, bob, a criminal defense attorney and a former new jersey prosecutor, and jeff, a white collar criminal defense attorney who represented three white house employees during the clinton scandals. thanks so both of you for being here. really appreciate it. >> good morning....