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>> you know, joy, you talked about beto and julian castro who are both texans. i was down at the border interviewing beto orourke and he made all this news. i said look, there is a wall in el paso. should they take it down? he said yeah. it was an interesting moment, because he does have -- its an issue where he has policy command. they put out a very comprehensive policy that would essentially go back to the case management system that would not necessitate detention. he has some policy command...