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the president look so bad? folks are feeling low, for many, things are bad, and the world is worse, planes crashing, planes disappearing, the jobs disappears. good jobs disappearing, like jimmy carter's malaise thing kicked around and we're not kicking back, this is not the 1970s. for many, this is worse, certainly feels worse because this is not just about vladimir putin having his way around the world but rather america can never be what it once was in the world, a leader. the view i get from many in washington is that maybe that's just not our thing anymore. let's be a citizen of the world, quit trying to be the boss or leader of that world. we created our own vacuum and now supposedly shocked that bad guys are filling that volume. america's best days aren't behind it. they are only that way if we let it. anyone who says there is nothing we can do, stick an egg in it. to our fox biz all-stars, rick ungar and kayleigh mcenany. polls released that show trust in both parties at an all-time, that is an all-time low. what do you make of that? >> i tell you on capitol hill i talked to members who say those exact things that the public was saying in your clips. that america's best days are behind it, and there's this lack of optimism among the nation's leaders, and i think part of the problem is that barack obama had so much, so much optimism coming in. expectations were so high, and there is such a feeling of dejection, and i think that's what the 2016 candidates have to tap in, they can resurrect the country. democrat, republican, the polls show they think the country is moving in the wrong direction, that's a bad sign for everybody, republicans, democrats, all parties. i think if the 2016 candidates, whoever that is, is able to tap into that and lift the country up and put in policies that make everybody feel better, improve the middle class, and i think that person is going to be the next president of the united states. neil: kayleigh, what do you think? >> a federal government that is as inept as its been, more than jimmy carter's malaise as you mentioned. the crop of gop candidates are more and more promising. you saw paul ryan's plan on the economy he released. marco rubio, an article on him, he had bills ready to go, if republicans take the senate, they're putting solutions on the president's desk and rick perry sending the national guard to the border. i'm seeing solutions from the gop. that's what the american people want. neil: tate? >> you talked about america as a leader. to be a country leader, you need leaders, i don't see a lot of leaders in politics. my son's a leader, a hero to me, he's a marine, gunnery sergeant in the marine corps. green politicians go to make a lot of money once they get out of office. that's why he doesn't want part of it. that's why i think you need term limits. you don't need to make politics a career. it should be a part-time position that people should be forced to do not people get into in order to make money and get rich. neil: young people, even with the market run-up, by and large don't trust the president, like they don't trust republicans, like they don't trust the institution of marriage, the cynicism in the middle of the supposed market, they want nothing to do with it, what do you say? >> cynicism feeds upon itself. i hate to say it, a lot of what everybody just said, i agree with, and you said something in the opening, look, leadership is about more than actually leading. it's about the optics of leadership. and i've got to say the disappointment you referenced, i'm feeling myself because i see a president, i know the presidency travels with him wherever he may go, whether a fund-raiser, the gulf, he's always a president. the communications is always there. the optics of it, cause people to grow cynical, cause people to worry. they don't think it through to the point. sure he can do something from the golf course or the fund-raiser. this is a problem. you've got to get ahead of this, he's got to get ahead of this and it may be too late now. neil: you know, bob, one of the things that came out in -- a lot of the men on the street interviews for us, there's a frustration, well, we were, and i'm wondering whether that resonates and gets to be an issue, how any candidate on the right or the left in 2016 running for president connects with people. if people aren't so jaded it takes a lot to unjade them. ronald reagan tried that against jimmy carter and succeeded. these types of things are short-lived. what do you think? >> all about the american dream, neil, and the people think the american dream, they can't attain, it you have to have someone who will inspire them and implement policies that are working. barack obama inspired everybody. a lot of republicans voted for barack obama in 2008, by 2012, a lot of the republicans had not. obama obviously won re-election. there is the feeling of depression, and listen, the stock market doubled under obama but you look at middle and lower class, and the republicans say listen, he's been in office nearly six years, it's his call, and that's where the challenge comes in. neil: bouncing on. that when i talked to michael bloomberg on the very issue, he said republicans are hurting themselves on the immigration issue, for example, this is from michael bloomberg. >> you're not in agreement with republicans who said the way we're handling the 50,000, 60,000 illegals who come to the country in such a way we're encouraging others to do the same right now to complicate, and make our situation -- >> neil, i don't know what they're talking about. they've got concrete things that the president could do, i'm sure he and the rest of the public would love to hear them. just criticizing when we have a tough problem is not helping anybody, it's hurting everybody, and i think it's hurting the republican party. people don't want people that just criticize and say no, they want real term solutions. neil: they did come up with plans of their owners the court said the other side they can ignore them as well. it means you're not getting stepped on, dave. that's what it means? >> i agree, immigration is one thing republicans dropped the ball on. neil: how so? >> there's an easy way to bring republicans together on immigration and the immigrants themselves. i come from -- i married an immigrant, my nicaraguan life. she is legal. neil: she is legal. >> the point is, all immigrants have in common is they hate the i.n.s. you say the immigrants, you have a horror story about the i.n.s. you know how bad a government bureaucracy is. this is what we're trying to get rid of. come to our side and we'll help you get rid of awful bureaucracies that don't respond to people in a legitimate way. that would be a good direction for republicans to go. i saw rick perry go in that direction, he's the only one. >> problem is coming to your side hasn't accomplished. that i'd go to your side, if it would. we're all being incredibly reasonable today. all of the things is blamed on -- neil: we have another 15 minutes. [ laughter ] >> all of the politicians are playing a game they don't want to include us. in that's what it is at the end of the day. they have their own cottage industry. david is making sense! >> why are you surprised? neil: what it you think about bloomberg was saying. i know he's a democrat versus a republican, he's saying republicans can't look like they're the party. you can say to many of the issues they have plans, go to the senate and lay there. but the perception is that. what do they do to counter that perception? >> in all due respect to mr. bloomberg, he told a falsehood on the show. republicans have a plan, we want to secure the border first. we were sold a bill of goods in 1983 that we would secure the border. as long as you give amnesty. neil: ronald reagan signed onto that. >> yes, ronald reagan did that. but the republican party does have solutions. we want to secure the border first. neil: but it is frustration, i guess as you all point out it's frustration and producing the reaction that steph got. >> my frustration is with the democratic party for not coming to the middle on this. neil: that's shocking. when we come back, another day, yet another crash. not our markets. i'm talking our planes. what do you make of that? 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>> i'm saying that the consumers are fearful of traveling at the moment. neil: fearful of traveling domestically? abroad? >> a general perception of fear. there's been three separate incidences in the past 7-days and it really, consumers have a debilitating fear, should they fly internationally? do they book destination? do they book their flights? it's a sad time the past seven days within the airline industry. neil: how has that affected travel to europe or the far east or the middle east. there was a brief ban over the past two days traveling to tel aviv. former mayor bloomberg had overruled on his own. how has that affected people? >> from an airline standpoint, it affected revenue. el al airlines made a statement this past week saying they are predicting a $15 million revenue loss for their third quarter. based on -- neil: on the part of americans traveling there? >> from that standpoint, it's not just americans but global travel going into israel, with a perception where there is so much conflict at the moment, people don't want to go there from a leisure standpoint, and then business travelers, most corporations and companies would avoid putting their employees in those types of situations at the moment. neil: what businesses think all right, we used to think about getting our employees from point a to point b. now we have to figure what they're flying over in the meantime. if you are over eastern ukraine, you worry about what's going on there. if you are flying over the middle east particularly, the israeli border, you worry what's going on there. we hear companies saying we are going to go slow on that. what do you make of that? >> with today's technology, we can use skype. fear is debilitating, the only way to overcome the conflict of fear is being knowledgeable and informed. and consumers and companies really being on the top of their game of knowing what are these areas that are war -- affected -- conflict zones. neil: there were 37, 38, 39 of them. if you were to avoid these areas, you wouldn't go anywhere. i know to be commonsensical about all this. i could see a lot of americans in particular would say to hell with them. keep it home, i might take the train, i'm not going fly? >> for the rest of summer plans, definitely european, people are looking, thinking about a two, three, four times, and saying within seven days they've it three incidences. all separate parts of the globe. all for separate causes. two of the incidences were at this point, seems to be whether related. >> but you can be very rational, the way you explained it. friends and colleagues, telling me, i don't know about going on this trip. what are you thinking? i'm not your travel adviser, but i think these are more the exception than the rule. it's hard to be rational at this time? >> hard to be rational because it is such an emotional topic at the moment. the part that -- that i keep on reminding myself is, it's a global loss. those lives, 116 lives were lost and that's a global loss. neil: just today. >> and that was today. and yesterday, 57, my numbers might be off. >> i get your point. >> so put them in perspective. >> put it in perspective. we want to focus on travel plans, but it's just a sad, sad day. neil: it is. thank you very much. when we come back, 47 million americans on food stamps. 47 million. they are given that, they deserve that. 47 million americans are getting food stamps, we got bigger problems in your country than we thought. is it possible they don't need that or could work that? after this. as long as i've lived in iowa, there's always been wind. 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and look in new york city, mayor giuliani, the results were astounding, in the following seven years, you saw the welfare rolls come down 67%. it was good for the economy. poverty rates fell by a fourth and single mother employment doubled it. works for the economy, works for the budget, it's a no-brainer. >> it does work, we got a totally different mind-set. rick and i know a beautiful young woman -- neil: whoa, whoa, whoa. >> i'm not going to get too personal. neil: i understand. >> this is pg-13. when she was starting out in her early 20s. she said i was on food stamps. i said why did you go on food stamps? you are a strong, healthy woman. she said it was there. when i started out i was making like $8,000 as a freelance writer, i never went on food stamps, i ate peanut butter and soybeans, you found alternatives. nowadays, the idea is look, it's free, i'll take it. >> when i was a boy, look, i know who dave is talking about, she used to be a panelist with us. >> you know on fox every saturday morning at 11:00. neil: off-camera. >> but this is where we have to be careful. i'm actually a big proponent of putting local programs together, if you are getting a welfare check whether it's food stamps, anything else, if you're able and if it's not leaving your kids at home, et cetera, you should show up to do work for the community. this is good for the community, good for the taxpayers, good for the person doing the work. it has a lot of benefits. but we have to be careful, by imposing these one size fits all rules. you hate one size fits all. neil: that's not what the governor of maine is advocateing. >> the governor of maine advocated anything that fell within the realm of sanity. this guy is out of his mind. neil: trying to get people to work. >> he'll take it too far. and people who david was discussing. neil: wouldn't you rather take it too far than not at all? >> exactly. exactly. neil: all i sudden we've got 47 million people in this country getting food stamps. i'm not saying, in a country as big as ours, the people are genuinely and legitimately hurting, starving and we should be helping. if it's 47 million, we're mozambique, that's pretty bad. assuming they all need them and deserve them, i'll give them the benefit of the doubt. certainly a good percentage can be working for them, and to work their way out of getting them. what do you say? >> there's no doubt, and in maine in particular, rick, you said nothing smart has come from the maine governor, this is a smart proposal. unemployment is 5% in maine. zero reason that you can't attach work to welfare benefits and food stamp benefits in maine. no reason. people need to learn self-responsibility and incentivize self-responsibility when it's not learned. there is no reason 47 million people should be on food stamps. neil: you know this benefit is there, why would you go around there? >> i got another anecdote. july 4th, i was waiting in line at cvs, and there was an immigrant family there. they couldn't speak english to the counter guy and they were buying potato chips and pretzels. when the time came to pay the bill, they brought out their ebt card. i wonder if they had a green card. food stamps is not for potato chips and pretzels. >> you have to be careful about this. that's the resource of food! >> you have to be careful about this, the argument that you make presumes that most people don't want to work and will take advantage of it if they can get around it. >> it's not that they'll take advantage of it -- neil: i don't know, but 47 million we can cut it down. >> if you look at walmart's statement today, because they just got rid of their u.s. president, they're claiming numbers have gone down. >> 47 million is a lot of people. they're claiming numbers have gone down because less people have food stamps. >> i don't believe it. >> rick, and you look -- >> and then walmart -- >> you are going see the number come down as the economy gets better. neil: final word. >> welfare reform with president clinton, welfare rolls have fallen 60%. there's a reason for that. when you attach people to that, people get off welfare. >> do any of your harvard students take food stamps? >> not to my knowledge. not to my knowledge. doesn't mean it's not happening. 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>> i think the fans are sticking with dan snyder on this. >> so what makes the most sense for them. >> for him to be able to rally the fans is almost impossible. >> we didn't ask about dan snyder. >> 55% say they won't buy the merchandise. >> they have a very reasonable price for the merchandising pie to mr. snyder whatever he wants to change that here. >> and saw harry reid on the senate floor trolling around to find and extract them and they have to find a victim. in this case it's native americans. >> a little as one of the best looking logos around. >> you said that you can solve all this. keep the logo and change the name. >> another interesting thing to look at two is that with a lot of the polls that we have seen have tested the national landscape and tested different variables and i think what is interesting is that you have to imagine being in the washington dc area. and people are talking about this and it's really interesting to see what these individuals responded to what they have to think about it. neil: when we come back from a series of computer issues. another agency spending $300 million this of another crash but i think we are crashing and burning after this she inspires you. no question about that. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any allergic reactions like rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use and a free 30-tablet trial. what wthat's never really being able tbeen possible.fair price. but along comes a radically new way to buy a car called truecar. now it is. truecar has pricing data on every make and model, so all you have to do is search for the car you want... there it is. now you're an expert in less than a minute. this is how car buying was always meant to be. this is truecar. neil: washington keeps finding over the on and there are three things of the president can do right now to stop this crisis at the border. kansas republican secretary of state, kris kobach joining us now. >> it is ironic that we had a president he feels free to rewrite it. he refuses to use that. >> i shooing this proclamation it allows the president to declare that the current influx of immigration is inadmissible. the older president of this in 1991 that authorize the federal government to send them back to the country. and in all of these cases we have determined that they are for central american countries. and yes, you still have to continue this in the 1996, congress decided that they would give you more power to deal with these crises and after another provision of law in section 1103 of the code, it is for a mass influx which is what we have right now. and what it allows a president to do is immediately confer all of the powers of federal immigration on state and local police and this gives the county sheriffs all the power and that includes repatriation. neil: and they will be competing with a local authorities. >> they could immediately have a force multiplier of a thousand state law enforcement and saying that i did a tremendous act and the act already has an exceptional circumstance in section 1232. >> it is what i do. >> i didn't know any of those particular provisions. and this is mike bloomberg from yesterday. >> governor perry is saying that the president is not doing what he should be doing. what do you think? >> i do agree that we should be in control of our border, i don't think we have an obligation to take people from other parts of the world because they don't like where they are. supporting them is ridiculous and i don't have and think it should happen, we need these people, they have a tendency to have very low crime, they tend to pay taxes, as much as the documented people here. >> it is amazing that he is named that. where is it when people who are on the left of this issue, they are constantly talking about reuniting families. these kids, they are separated from their parents and being sent to be as distant relatives to the united states and we absolutely should be in favor of family reunification and the idea that they are coming here to take jobs doesn't really fly either. but we have the power to repatriate these people back home and we showed because shouldn't they be with their parents and i think about is the best possible outcome. see one mike bloomberg is defending their borders and maybe a little bit inconsistent on this. kris kobach thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. neil: remember when gm was giving essentially a blank check to victims? >> so you so you have an aerosol powered signal company under? >> now we are finding out that the company is already figuring out how much it's going to cost. we will have more after this. we never thought we'd be farming wind out here. it's not just building jobs here, it's helping our community. siemens location here has just received a major order of wind turbines. it puts a huge smile on my face. cause i'm like, 'this is what we do.' the fact that iowa is leading the way in wind energy, i'm so proud, like, it's just amazing. neil: this is like the department of motor vehicles on steroids. almost every single government agent fee that i know of, including the social security agency today, they have had problems with computers. so as i said, social purity spending $3 million for a computer system that does not work. maybe they need to privatize the red. >> i think that this is proof that the government should do as little as possible. so this is proof. if there's ever a case for smaller government, this is a. >> and goes on again and again. >> now government is essentially synonymous with corruption and inefficiency and you have irs and the social security administration and the obamacare website, i don't need to name any more. they had $3 million in the clearest to renovate a computer system and i can only dream of what a private sector company could do with $300 million in six years. >> obviously there is a problem, but i don't think that that is an issue. private industry. >> i do have an idea. instead of letting administrators who are already in these places in charge, why don't you go out and get it out of security chief technology officer, a cto, someone that understands this stuff and let them be responsible. >> when the government is the one who makes the rules and regulations and forces people to buy stuff that they don't know necessarily want, it comes out with a bill that even the experts in the health care industry don't understand, and dislike they don't understand those things. so answer me how president obama, who has mismanaged practically everything that is passed his desk over the last couple of years can manage this. how can they do a? >> i wouldn't mind having a beer with him. >> is not managing the health care industry. he's telling us how to buy health care and he's telling doctors how to administer health care. so as long as you and i have been buying health insurance, states have told us that this whole argument that we have seen about obamacare is whether the power will be concentrated. >> you're going to have first. $41 million goes to compensated victims and that's a lot less than the billions they were supposedly setting aside among the ignition switch fiasco. to what do you make of that. >> you know, this is wishful thinking and they think that they will pay $400 million for this compensation fund. but there's no done and turned out. so i think it's no doubt. >> i'm wondering if the chinese are eventually going to buy gm. i think that they are still dragging this government management behind them. >> i agree with you 100% that it won't be enough. when all of the lawyers get in there, they are going to get in. >> you are missing the point. it's going to be well over a billion, i think they are at he took this because they talked about 200 million already in the dill showed a profit. and gm will get through just fine. it's with a billion dollars just to get past it. >> i think that there is a million dollar statement there. >> it will be fine. >> at the end of the day they have lots of big government behind them and the too big to fail, i think they're going to be just fine. >> i think you are right. >> in the meantime, who says the media talks only in soundbite. we spent nearly half an hour talking to michael limburg. think about that. ♪ ♪ really... so our business can be on at&t's networkollar? 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>> i think compared to the security of american airports, it is infinitely better. >> do you think that this administration is as much a friend of israel? >> i don't think the republicans or democrats are giving enough support to israel. >> are you going to run for president? two now. >> that was just a snippet. traveling to israel during the van, kudos to you for a great interview. you are interview was excellent. his frank and unguarded responses were refreshing. aj says it's overly long and very boring. how low will this go? what a web ui. and peter in florida, what a moron you are. to let that liberal jerk play you like a piano. and in boston, you adhere to and search for the facts, it's not only gratifying, but it is refreshing. and spencer says thank you for the interview with bloomberg. andrews in illinois said you asked important questions in soliciting soundbites. and robin in connecticut said i'm so pleased he was able to break the strain. and what makes you think that he gives a rats butt about anything they might say. go ahead and add yourself. and in california, why did you even bother to have him on? that was a one of the most boring and one-sided interviews ever. and you are on too many shows, you need to have another anchor replace you on fox news. >> you need to stop writing because he written before and you have ignored me. i had never flown and i am sure that i have been leery a long time. not to mention the cost of flying is outrageous. and it is aiming to be something to fear, unfortunately. i can go only where i can drive these days. and bob wright, let's put it this way, if you have to fly, i won't. and liz says i am innately, comes have some cannolis and we will fly back together. and i said okay, let me check with my wife. and what is it like to be right about everything? well, it's incredibly lonely. and edwin says i can't believe how bad your show is. you are incompetent and partial and boring. oh, really? and to have the most aggravating voice i have ever heard. and i said why can't you fix whatever is wrong with your throat because you sound like crap. >> am not going to respond to that. and patriots as what we need to do to stop crime. and finally judy says looking good, you been working out, having a? 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New-yorkUnited-statesMalaysiaAlaskaTel-avivIsraelFloridaChinaBostonMassachusettsIllinoisCalifornia the president look so bad? folks are feeling low, for many, things are bad, and the world is worse, planes crashing, planes disappearing, the jobs disappears. good jobs disappearing, like jimmy carter's malaise thing kicked around and we're not kicking back, this is not the 1970s. for many, this is worse, certainly feels worse because this is not just about vladimir putin having his way around the world but rather america can never be what it once was in the world, a leader. the view i get from many in washington is that maybe that's just not our thing anymore. let's be a citizen of the world, quit trying to be the boss or leader of that world. we created our own vacuum and now supposedly shocked that bad guys are filling that volume. america's best days aren't behind it. they are only that way if we let it. anyone who says there is nothing we can do, stick an egg in it. to our fox biz all-stars, rick ungar and kayleigh mcenany. polls released that show trust in both parties at an that is an all-time low. what do you make of that? >> i tell you on capitol hill i talked to members who say those exact things that the public was saying in your clips. that america's best days are behind it, and there's this lack of optimism among the nation's leaders, and i think part of the problem is that barack obama had so much, so much optimism coming in. expectations were so high, and there is such a feeling of dejection, and i think that's what the 2016 candidates have to tap in, they can resurrect the country. democrat, republican, the polls show they think the country is moving in the wrong direction, that's a bad sign for everybody, republicans, democrats, all parties. i think if the 2016 candidates, whoever that is, is able to tap into that and lift the country up and put in policies that make everybody feel better, improve the middle class, and i think that person is going to be the next president of the united states. neil: kayleigh, what do you think? >> a federal government that is as inept as its been, more than jimmy carter's malaise as you mentioned. the crop of gop candidates are more and more promising. you saw paul ryan's plan on the economy he released. marco rubio, an article on him, he had bills ready to go, if republicans take the senate, they're putting solutions on the president's desk and rick perry sending the national guard to the border. i'm seeing solutions from the gop. that's what the american people want. neil: tate? >> you talked about america as a leader. to be a country leader, you need leaders, i don't see a lot of leaders in politics. my son's a leader, a hero to me, he's a marine, gunnery sergeant in the marine corps. green politicians go to make a lot of money once they get out of office. that's why he doesn't want part of it. that's why i think you need term limits. you don't need to make politics a career. it should be a part-time position that people should be forced to do not people get into in order to make money and get rich. neil: young people, even with the market run-up, by and large don't trust the president, like they don't trust republicans, like they don't trust the institution of marriage, the cynicism in the middle of the supposed market, they want nothing to do with it, what do you say? >> cynicism feeds upon itself. i hate to say it, a lot of what everybody just said, i agree with, and you said something in the opening, look, leadership is about more than actually leading. it's about the optics of leadership. and i've got to say the disappointment you referenced, i'm feeling myself because i see a president, i know the presidency travels with him wherever he may go, whether a fund-raiser, the gulf, he's always a president. the communications is always there. the optics of it, cause people to grow cynical, cause people to worry. they don't think it through to the point. sure he can do something from the golf course or the fund-raiser. this is a problem. you've got to get ahead of this, he's got to get ahead of this and it may be too late now. neil: you know, bob, one of the things that came out in -- a lot of the men on the street interviews for us, there's a frustration, well, we were, and i'm wondering whether that resonates and gets to be an issue, how any candidate on the right or the left in 2016 running for president connects with people. if people aren't so jaded it takes a lot to unjade them. ronald reagan tried that against jimmy carter and succeeded. these types of things are short-lived. what do you think? >> all about the american dream, neil, and the people think the american dream, they can't attain, it you have to have someone who will inspire them and implement policies that are working. barack obama inspired everybody. a lot of republicans voted for barack obama in 2008, by 2012, a lot of the republicans had not. obama obviously won re-election. there is the feeling of depression, and listen, the stock market doubled under obama but you look at middle and lower class, and the republicans say listen, he's been in office nearly six years, it's his call, and that's where the challenge comes in. neil: bouncing on. that when i talked to michael bloomberg on the very issue, he said republicans are hurting themselves on the immigration issue, for example, this is from michael bloomberg. >> you're not in agreement with republicans who said the way we're handling the 50,000, 60,000 illegals who come to the country in such a way we're encouraging others to do the same right now to complicate, and make our situation -- >> neil, i don't know what they're talking about. they've got concrete things that the president could do, i'm sure he and the rest of the public would love to hear them. just criticizing when we have a tough problem is not helping anybody, it's hurting everybody, and i think it's hurting the republican party. people don't want people that just criticize and say no, they want real term solutions. neil: they did come up with plans of their owners the court said the other side they can ignore them as well. it means you're not getting stepped on, dave. that's what it means? >> i agree, immigration is one thing republicans dropped the ball on. neil: how so? >> there's an easy way to bring republicans together on immigration and the immigrants themselves. i come from -- i married an immigrant, my nicaraguan life. she is legal. neil: she is legal. >> the point is, all immigrants have in common is they hate the i.n.s. you say the immigrants, you have a horror story about the i.n.s. you know how bad a government bureaucracy is. this is what we're trying to get rid of. come to our side and we'll help you get rid of awful bureaucracies that don't respond to people in a legitimate way. that would be a good direction for republicans to go. i saw rick perry go in that direction, he's the only one. >> problem is coming to your side hasn't accomplished. that i'd go to your side, if it would. we're all being incredibly reasonable today. all of the things is blamed on -- neil: we have another 15 minutes. [ laughter ] >> all of the politicians are playing a game they don't want to include us. in that's what it is at the end of the day. they have their own cottage industry. david is making sense! >> why are you surprised? neil: what it you think about bloomberg was saying. i know he's a democrat versus a republican, he's saying republicans can't look like they're the party. you can say to many of the issues they have plans, go to the senate and lay there. but the perception is that. what do they do to counter that perception? >> in all due respect to mr. bloomberg, he told a falsehood on the show. republicans have a plan, we want to secure the border first. we were sold a bill of goods in 1983 that we would secure the border. as long as you give amnesty. neil: ronald reagan signed onto that. >> yes, ronald reagan did that. but the republican party does have solutions. we want to secure the border first. neil: but it is frustration, i guess as you all point out it's frustration and producing the reaction that steph got. >> my frustration is with the democratic party for not coming to the middle on this. neil: that's shocking. when we come back, another day, yet another crash. not our markets. i'm talking our planes. what do you make of that? 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>> i'm saying that the consumers are fearful of traveling at the moment. neil: fearful of traveling domestically? abroad? >> a general perception of fear. there's been three separate incidences in the past 7-days and it really, consumers have a debilitating fear, should they fly internationally? do they book destination? do they book their flights? it's a sad time the past seven days within the airline industry. neil: how has that affected travel to europe or the far east or the middle east. there was a brief ban over the past two days traveling to tel aviv. former mayor bloomberg had overruled on his own. how has that affected people? >> from an airline standpoint, it affected revenue. el al airlines made a statement this past week saying they are predicting a $15 million revenue loss for their third quarter. based on -- neil: on the part of americans traveling there? >> from that standpoint, it's not just americans but global travel going into israel, with a perception where there is so much conflict at the moment, people don't want to go there from a leisure standpoint, and then business travelers, most corporations and companies would avoid putting their employees in those types of situations at the moment. neil: what businesses think all right, we used to think about getting our employees from point a to point b. now we have to figure what they're flying over in the meantime. if you are over eastern ukraine, you worry about what's going on there. if you are flying over the middle east particularly, the israeli border, you worry what's going on there. we hear companies saying we are going to go slow on that. what do you make of that? >> with today's technology, we can use skype. fear is debilitating, the only way to overcome the conflict of fear is being knowledgeable and informed. and consumers and companies really being on the top of their game of knowing what are these areas that are war -- affected -- conflict zones. neil: there were 37, 38, 39 of them. if you were to avoid these areas, you wouldn't go anywhere. i know to be commonsensical about all this. i could see a lot of americans in particular would say to hell with them. keep it home, i might take the train, i'm not going fly? >> for the rest of summer plans, definitely european, people are looking, thinking about a two, three, four times, and saying within seven days they've it three incidences. all separate parts of the globe. all for separate causes. two of the incidences were at this point, seems to be whether related. >> but you can be very rational, the way you explained it. friends and colleagues, telling me, i don't know about going on this trip. what are you thinking? i'm not your travel adviser, but i think these are more the exception than the rule. it's hard to be rational at this time? >> hard to be rational because it is such an emotional topic at the moment. the part that -- that i keep on reminding myself is, it's a global loss. those lives, 116 lives were lost and that's a global loss. neil: just today. >> and that was today. and yesterday, 57, my numbers might be off. >> i get your point. >> so put them in perspective. >> put it in perspective. we want to focus on travel plans, but it's just a sad, sad day. neil: it is. thank you very much. when we come back, 47 million americans on food stamps. 47 million. they are given that, they deserve that. 47 million americans are getting food stamps, we got bigger problems in your country than we thought. is it possible they don't need that or could work for that? after this. unlimited cash back. let that phrase sit with you for a second. unlimited. as in, no limits on your hard-earned cash back. as in no more dealing with those rotating categories. the quicksilver card from capital one. unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you purchase, every day. don't settle for anything less. i'll keep asking. what's in your wallet? 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[ laughter ] >> caviar. neil: coming up, the plan to fix the water mess that won't cost a dollar more, it's incredibly simple. so simple and i'm wondering why neil: when critics are on the attack, sometimes demeter fans. some will avoid using the term redskins next season. a new poll shows that the washington redskins fans reject the notion of a name. he said, what are the results of this poll and how to go about it? >> amongst those that we poll, 65% that don't change the red team name. amongst those who said that they were redskins fan, and the me also ask you find the redskins name offensive and 71% said they do not find it offensive and 83% said that the redskins were their favorite team said that they don't find it offensive either. neil: in washington whether that poll is the case or not, they argued that it is no more. so are those fans revolting now or have they revolted or was? >> i think the fans are sticking with dan snyder on this. >> so what makes the most sense for them. >> for him to be able to rally the fans is almost impossible. >> we didn't ask about dan snyder. >> 55% say they won't buy the merchandise. >> they have a very reasonable price for the merchandising pie to mr. snyder whatever he wants to change that here. >> and saw harry reid on the senate floor trolling around to find and extract them and they have to find a victim. in this case it's native americans. >> a little as one of the best looking logos around. >> you said that you can solve all this. keep the logo and change the name. >> another interesting thing to look at two is that with a lot of the polls that we have seen have tested the national landscape and tested different variables and i think what is interesting is that you have to imagine being in the washington dc area. and people are talking about this and it's really interesting to see what these individuals responded to what they have to think about it. neil: when we come back from a series of computer issues. another agency spending $300 million this of another ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] if you can't stand the heat, get off the test track. get the mercedes-benz you've been burning for at the summer event, going on now at your authorized mercedes-benz dealer. but hurry, offers end july 31st. share your summer moments in your mercedes-benz with us. offers end july 31st. my motheit's delicious. toffee in the world. so now we've turned her toffee into a business. my goal was to take an idea and make it happen. i'm janet long and i formed my toffee company through legalzoom. i never really thought i would make money doing what i love. we created legalzoom to help people start their business and launch their dreams. go to legalzoom.com today and make your business dream a reality. at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. neil: washington keeps finding over the on and there are three things of the president can do right now to stop this crisis at the border. kansas republican secretary of state, kris kobach joining us now. >> it is ironic that we had a president he feels free to rewrite it. he refuses to use that. >> i shooing this proclamation it allows the president to declare that the current influx of immigration is inadmissible. the older president of this in 1991 that authorize the federal government to send them back to the country. and in all of these cases we have determined that they are for central american countries. and yes, you still have to continue this in the 1996, congress decided that they would give you more power to deal with these crises and after another provision of law in section 1103 of the code, it is for a mass influx which is what we have right now. and what it allows a president to do is immediately confer all of the powers of federal immigration on state and local police and this gives the county sheriffs all the power and that includes repatriation. neil: and they will be competing with a local authorities. >> they could immediately have a force multiplier of a thousand state law enforcement and saying that i did a tremendous act and the act already has an exceptional circumstance in section 1232. >> it is what i do. >> i didn't know any of those particular provisions. and this is mike bloomberg from yesterday. >> governor perry is saying that the president is not doing what he should be doing. what do you think? >> i do agree that we should be in control of our border, i don't think we have an obligation to take people from other parts of the world because they don't like where they are. supporting them is ridiculous and i don't have and think it should happen, we need these people, they have a tendency to have very low crime, they tend to pay taxes, as much as the documented people here. >> it is amazing that he is named that. where is it when people who are on the left of this issue, they are constantly talking about reuniting families. these kids, they are separated from their parents and being sent to be as distant relatives to the united states and we absolutely should be in favor of family reunification and the idea that they are coming here to take jobs doesn't really fly either. but we have the power to repatriate these people back home and we showed because shouldn't they be with their parents and i think about is the best possible outcome. see one mike bloomberg is defending their borders and maybe a little bit inconsistent on this. kris kobach thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. neil: remember when gm was giving essentially a blank check to victims? 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>> i wouldn't mind having a beer with him. >> is not managing the health care industry. he's telling us how to buy health care and he's telling doctors how to administer health care. so as long as you and i have been buying health insurance, states have told us that this whole argument that we have seen about obamacare is whether the power will be concentrated. >> you're going to have first. $41 million goes to compensated victims and that's a lot less than the billions they were supposedly setting aside among the ignition switch fiasco. to what do you make of that. >> you know, this is wishful thinking and they think that they will pay $400 million for this compensation fund. but there's no done and turned out. so i think it's no doubt. >> i'm wondering if the chinese are eventually going to buy gm. i think that they are still dragging this government management behind them. >> i agree with you 100% that it won't be enough. when all of the lawyers get in there, they are going to get in. >> you are missing the point. it's going to be well over a billion, i think they are at he took this because they talked about 200 million already in the dill showed a profit. and gm will get through just fine. it's with a billion dollars just to get past it. >> i think that there is a million dollar statement there. >> it will be fine. >> at the end of the day they have lots of big government behind them and the too big to fail, i think they're going to be just fine. >> i think you are right. >> in the meantime, who says the media talks only in soundbite. we spent nearly half an hour talking to michael limburg. think about that. ♪ ♪ ♪ really... so our business can be on at&t's network for $175 dollars a month? yup. all five of you for $175. our clients need a lot of attention. there's unlimited talk and text. we're working deals all day. you get 10 gigabytes of data to share. what about expansion potential? add a line anytime for 15 bucks a month. low dues... great terms... let's close. introducing at&t mobile share value plans... ...with our best-ever pricing for business. neil: what is the deal with my spending 24 minutes interviewing michael bloomberg on fox news? the former new york mayor flying to tel aviv because he thought it was perfectly safe there. he though he hopped on a plane to make his point. >> is this an overreaction on the part of the faa? >> i think compared to the security of american airports, it is infinitely better. >> do you think that this administration is as much a friend of israel? >> i don't think the republicans or democrats are giving enough support to israel. >> are you going to run for president? two now. >> that was just a snippet. traveling to israel during the t interview. you are interview was excellent. his frank and unguarded responses were refreshing. aj says it's overly long and very boring. how low will this go? what a web ui. and peter in florida, what a moron you are. to let that liberal jerk play you like a piano. and in boston, you adhere to and search for the facts, it's not only gratifying, but it is refreshing. and spencer says thank you for the interview with bloomberg. andrews in illinois said you asked important questions in soliciting soundbites. and robin in connecticut said i'm so pleased he was able to break the strain. and what makes you think that he gives a rats butt about anything they might say. go ahead and add yourself. and in california, why did you even bother to have him on? that was a one of the most boring and one-sided interviews ever. and you are on too many shows, you need to have another anchor replace you on fox news. >> you need to stop writing because he written before and you have ignored me. i had never flown and i am sure that i have been leery a long time. not to mention the cost of flying is outrageous. and it is aiming to be something to fear, unfortunately. i can go only where i can drive these days. and bob wright, let's put it this way, if you have to fly, i won't. and liz says i am innately, comes have some cannolis and we will fly back together. and i said okay, let me check with my wife. and what is it like to be right about everything? well, it's incredibly lonely. and edwin says i can't believe how bad your show is. you are incompetent and partial and boring. oh, really? and to have the most aggravating voice i have ever heard. and i said why can't you fix whatever is wrong with your throat because you sound like crap. >> am not going to respond to that. and patriots as what we need to do to stop crime. and finally judy says looking good, you been working out, having a? see you tomorrow >> they are everywhere. the lawyers who claim they will solve our problems. >> bill o'reilly and do you think america will lock these people up? >> we have too many laws. and let's get rid of something. that is our show tonight. ♪ ♪
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