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Okay. Lets get started. Thank you all for coming. My name is howard glutman. Ill be the host moderator for this panel. Our format will be very simple. Just going to have a discussion, informal discussion here about what we heard so far this morning. And then well leave some time for questions for you all. Let me just briefly introduce the panelist, you know them all, im sorry. To my immediate left. Professor of economics at rutgers and former director of tax policy center. Always great to have her back. Chad buckley former chief democratic counsel. Pam olson is the u. S. Deputy tax leader and pri pricewaterhousecoopers and former secretary of tax policy. And resident scholar of American Enterprise institute. Row san, ma row san many years ago was an author of the get which was a predecessor to the destination based cash flow tax. Talked a little bit about that as well. I wanted to start by asking about an alternative to what were hearing this morning. We had a talk for years about the

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