that someone like ross perot could emerge. there was one cable news outlet. there was cnn. a decade old, and at 9:00 p.m., you had larry king live, and larry king would have an old entertainer from hollywood's glory days and the next night, a business tycoon. two days later, george h.w. bush, won the new hampshire primary but it was humbling, his opponent pat buchanan had got 40%. you had bill clinton. paul songus was making noise, and larry king said would you think about running for president, i tell you what, if you the people are serious about it, you register my name in all 50 states and i'll do it. it was taken as an empty promise, almost a nonanswer, and yet almost overnight, in an age before you had the internet like
a lot of buchanan d dissatisfaction on the right. jerry brown in '92 ran a gorilla campaign, and paul on the deficit, which was perot's signature issue, there were brown voters, and buchanan voters. a lot of voters in that coalition. we're going to have the new nbc reporting about migrant children describing misconduct by border agents in arizona. plus, president trump tweeted last night that democrats are coming after mitch mcconnell. we'll show you what the senate majority leader is saying about the retired marine fighter pilot. amy mcgrath's new bid to unseat him. "morning joe" is back in a moment. you have said part of it is $180 billion. >> may i finish? >> may i finish? it was a simple question.
in his own biography. >> andrea, in looking at other parts of the battleground, whether ryan is a factor, does his youth help at all? perhaps in colorado and virginia, two of the younger states, in you will, in the battleground with independent voters less sensitive on the entitlement front. >> yes, i think that the independent voters, some of the young marrieds and younger voters concerned about the solvency and the budget issues, the tea party energy that might be reignited by this, it is not an accident they are starting in virginia. one analogy in florida, think back to 1992 as to who won the new hampshire primary. it was paul songus. then he just got clobbered in florida. when they head south, bill clinton called him all kinds of just demonized what songus was talking about in terms of social
pennsylvania. and bob walker thought i would say lebanon baloney and i can't want to pick down to geographic locations. the fact this this is a massachusetts moderate, voted for paul songus, to the left of ted why he kennedy in 1994 and he repudiated the contract with america and repudiated reagan and bush and he called himself a moderate and a progress stiff and now to run around saying, i'm a conservative, a conservative. the time has come, give me a break and campaign with who you are and win or lose in a fair, straight way and don't go around making things up that aren't accurate. >> sean: let me ask you specifically about tactics and strategy as relates to the campaign. you've been in this game a long time. i was there in the room the night you became the speaker of the house. that's a long time ago. usually one of the first rules in politics is somebody attacks you, you respond
good-- if huntsman doesn't have a good showing, he's invested everything in, i'm sorry, right here in new hampshire. that means it's going to be perry and santorum and gingrich going to south carolina. and at that point, i would. >> and paul. >> sean: one or two of them may drop out after south carolina, is that a good bet? >> it's possible. paul will never drop out, he'll stay until the bitter end. >> sean: i didn't mention paul. but the point is right now, gingrich had a point. you asked two-thirds of new hampshire that's not going to vote for romney. if they got together behind one candidate there would be a chance to defeatham. what i think may happen, sean, in 1992 bill clinton's chief opponent was paul songus, he defeated him and left with jerry brown and coasted to the nomination. and in 1988, al gore, he doo
good-- if huntsman doesn't have a good showing, he's invested everything in, i'm sorry, right here in new hampshire. that means it's going to be perry and santorum and gingrich going to south carolina. and at that point, i would. >> and paul. >> sean: one or two of them may drop out after south carolina, is that a good bet? >> it's possible. paul will never drop out, he'll stay until the bitter end. >> sean: i didn't mention paul. but the point is right now, gingrich had a point. you asked two-thirds of new hampshire that's not going to vote for romney. if they got together behind one candidate there would be a chance to defeatham. what i think may happen, sean, in 1992 bill clinton's chief opponent was paul songus, he defeated him and left with jerry brown and coasted to the nomination. and in 1988, al gore, he doo
it remains a question mark. >> second time i was up here for one of these big events we had paul songus running against bill clinton at the time, although he won by eight or nine points being the local guy from massachusetts, the form senator, he had nothing awaiting him afterwards. that is the way for santorum, no matter how good he did in iowa, there was nothing waiting for him to exploit the victory. there's no santorum organization. there's nothing there. it's his willingness to go door to door in iowa and that is behind him. and that is sad, you route for the guy that is out there by himself, fighting with his voice and heart. romney has the money behind him and newt is getting some money. i don't know whether santorum has money behind him. i heard he raised a million dollars in a day last week. but this will be a challenge, two guys with money duking it
compete like he will have to in the coming states? it remains a question mark. >> second time i was up here for one of these big events we had paul songus running against bill clinton at the time, although he won by eight or nine points being the local guy from massachusetts, the form senator, he had nothing awaiting him afterwards. that is the way for santorum, no matter how good he did in iowa, there was nothing waiting for him to exploit the victory. there's no santorum organization. there's nothing there. it's his willingness to go door to door in iowa and that is behind him. and that is sad, you route for the guy that is out there by himself, fighting with his voice and heart. romney has the money behind him and newt is getting some money. i don't know whether santorum has money behind him. i heard he raised a million
real happy, speaker gingrich, not feeling excited these days. i know, it's sad. >> here is a guy in the '80s was an independent and '92 voted in the primary for paul songus the liberal candidate and he's questioning my credentials. >> he's been flailing around a bit, and trying to go after me you watch it and shake your head and painfully revealing to watch. >> i challenged you how out of touch with honesty, romney's schedule will be. >> and successful in the other races, but, is it working? >> it is working. i mean, there's a saying in politics, the only thing being the worst guy to go negative is to be the second guy. and because mitt romney has the money and able to go far more, he's 95% of the ads that mitt romney is taken out have been negative and 13,000 ads total saturating the state and that has done major damage to