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BBCNEWS The Media Show July 27, 2021 00:31:00

Among them are heads of state — emmanuel macron�*s phone number appears on the list of alleged targets. the spyware used is called pegasus and it is made by an israeli surveillance firm. the revelations have been dropping all week, so how do you pull off a series of global scoops like this? we are joined by some of thejournalists behind it. also today, the role that specialist fact checkers play injournalism. in the last 18 months, this has been a story of what is and is not true. some stori...
Phone Number Surveillance Firm Heads Of State Donald Trump Covid 19 Bill Gates

BBCNEWS The Media Show July 27, 2021 00:35:00

Of the hacking of the device of khadija. nso company is selling that kind of cyber weapons to countries with a very sad and very bad track record in terms of human rights abuses. paul lewis, of the guardian, if i can bring you in here. there are 17 news outlets partnering on this. howd the guardian come to be one of them? we were invited into this project by laurent at forbidden stories. he contacted us. we had to be very careful when we were reporting this about conversing on phones, as you can...
Nso Group Track Record Human Rights Abuses Khadija Ismayilova Paul Lewis News Outlets

BBCNEWS The Media Show July 28, 2021 00:36:00

Into a project. i visited, with a delegation from the guardian, his offices in paris. he showed us this data and we were stunned. there were 50,000 numbers of people who had been selected as persons of interest by client governments of n50. we had never seen anything like this before and it was obviously going to be a very big story. so the moment laurent invited us in, we were interested the moment we saw the data and most importantly, the moment we realised that there was forensic evidence to ...
Laurent Richard Wish List Phone Numbers Lets Talk Heads Of State

BBCNEWS The Media Show July 27, 2021 00:42:00

I do not think we ever expected them to be overjoyed with these stories or even accept them, but we stand by our reporting. when you look at the data and the connection to the forensics, it is quite compelling. i mentioned this french ministerjust now, he was selected in this list 15 seconds before pegasus activity appeared on his phone. there are multiple examples that we can show and as you said, we did a sample of forensics on 67 phones that were in the data. of those, 37 showed evidence of s...
Pegasus Activity Laurent Richard Activity Recording News Outlets Edward Snowden

BBCNEWS The Media Show July 28, 2021 00:42:00

But we stand by our reporting. when you look at the data and the connection to the forensics, it is quite compelling. i mentioned this french ministerjust now, he was selected in this list 15 seconds before pegasus activity appeared on his phone. there are multiple examples that we can show and as you said, we did a sample of forensics on 67 phones that were in the data. of those, 37 showed evidence of some form of pegasus activity recording to the forensic analysis and for us, we think that is ...
Pegasus Activity Laurent Richard Edward Snowden Activity Recording News Outlets

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BBCNEWS The Media Show July 27, 2021 00:32:00

We are going to be talking about that and more a bit later with claire milne who is the acting editor of full fact, the uk fact=checking organisation and ian birrell who is a contributing editor of the mail on sunday. lets start with that pegasus project which has been making headlines all week. laurent richard is the director and founder of forbidden stories, the ngo which got hold of this leaked list of 50,000 possible targets for surveillance, and paul lewis is head of investigations at the g...
Awe Fact Ian Birrell Acting Editor Factchecking Organisation Claire Milne Mail On Sunday

BBCNEWS The Media Show July 28, 2021 00:35:00

Of the hacking of the device of khadija. nso company is selling that kind of cyber weapons to countries with a very sad and very bad track record in terms of human rights abuses. paul lewis, of the guardian, if i can bring you in here. there are 17 news outlets partnering on this. howd the guardian come to be one of them? we were invited into this project by laurent at forbidden stories. he contacted us. we had to be very careful when we were reporting this about conversing on phones, as you can...
Paul Lewis Nso Group Track Record Human Rights Abuses Khadija Ismayilova News Outlets

BBCNEWS The Media Show July 28, 2021 00:32:00

About that and more a bit later with claire milne who is the acting editor of full fact, the uk fact=checking organisation and ian birrell who is a contributing editor of the mail on sunday. lets start with that pegasus project which has been making headlines all week. laurent richard is the director and founder of forbidden stories, the ngo which got hold of this leaked list of 50,000 possible targets for surveillance, and paul lewis is head of investigations at the guardian which is one of the...
Awe Fact Ian Birrell Acting Editor Factchecking Organisation Claire Milne Pegasus Project

BBCNEWS The Media Show July 28, 2021 00:31:00

Among them are heads of state — emmanuel macron�*s phone number appears on the list of alleged targets. the spyware used is called pegasus and it is made by an israeli surveillance firm. the revelations have been dropping all week, so how do you pull off a series of global scoops like this? we are joined by some of thejournalists behind it. also today, the role that specialist fact checkers play in journalism. in the last 18 months, this has been a story of what is and is not true. some stor...
Phone Number Surveillance Firm Heads Of State Donald Trump Covid 19 Bill Gates

BBCNEWS The Media Show July 27, 2021 00:36:00

He showed us this data and we were stunned. there were 50,000 numbers of people who had been selected as persons of interest by client governments of n50. we had never seen anything like this before and it was obviously going to be a very big story. so the moment laurent invited us in, we were interested the moment we saw the data and most importantly, the moment we realised that there was forensic evidence to support the data, that we had done forensic examinations on phones and found pegasus, ...
Laurent Richard Wish List Phone Numbers Lets Talk Heads Of State

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