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reporter: prosecutors claim four ring leaders, including an 89-year-old pension consultant, coached first responders to appear disoriented in psychological evaluations. more than 100 police officers and firefighters lied. about half of them blaming 9/11 for their disability. but investigators say photographs, video and postings on social media revealed the defendants don t appear to be disabled despite their claims they could not use a computer, could not drive, could not shop. former police officer glenn lieberman, shown here on a jet ski, received $175,000 over four years after reportedly saying he couldn t go outside. i can only express disgust at the actions of the individuals involved in this scheme. reporter: there is anger among the families of the heroes who died on 9/11. the firefighters and police i know were digging on the pile right after 9/11 to rescue and then recover. and many are dying today from
people predicted four years ago the economy would be still in this much trouble? none of them. you can t anticipate the future. if you re going to make promises on pensions you have to have enough money in the kitty or you have to scale back the benefits. several states have done that utah recently put all of their state employees on defined contribution plans. these are like 401(k)s. look, only 15% of private sector workers today have a traditional pension, a defined benefit pension. over 80% of public employees have a defined benefit pension which is much richer and much better. we have to equalize the bills. people bay paying bills for public employees can t have pensions more valuable. bill: this is slilt of hand you say. this is shell game. you have to guess where the money is going? can go out to times square right now, a few blocks from here and find a guy playing three card man tee and might be a pension consultant for the state of new york. bill: i advise you not to do that
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