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Going broke because of entitlements. >> spending too much on education. >> on everything. were going broke. >> stay on education. >> on education we spend about 12,000 per student. hundred thousand per classroom. we do a lousy job. >> okay. is that the teachers union fault because they wont hire good teachers and they protect.g>u bad ones? >> some of it but mostly its a government monday nonefully and they never do anything well. >> so you if vouchers. >> yeah. >> you support that? >> definitely...

Trafficking industry in the region, their future seemed bleak. when christie returned to atlanta, she started collecting funds at her small tea shop. listen. >> i put the sign up and within six months, i had enough money to buy a plane ticket back over there and support them for a year. i republicaned a -- rented a flat, i put them in a school, i furnished the flats so thats how the project started. >> to raise money, christies shop collected funds from used book sales, hosting monthly indian di...

That plus the debt service. we have to think about these are competing against one another. if you want to have all the spending on education. the other thing is we have been spending a lot of money on education in k-12 to not very good results. we have more than doubled the per student, per capita adjusted for inflation and results are flat. why do we think we are going magically have better results for pre-k, im not convinced. >> this is the claim on the right. well, your k-12 is a mess, right...

Illinois teachers union and other unions. it is hard to fire a teacher. i assume they are all up to speed. they a >> they are all equal, john. there is what i like to call the union sealiceiling. they are in the classroom with a teacher who is below par what parents would like is to be able to identify the teachers who are exceptional and reward them with merit pay. thats not what the unions want they want everybody treated the same even though we knew they are different. >> if it were more of a...

Complicated than that. pell grants are going up significantly. we were able to maintain the maximum pell grant of $5,550. that was hugely important to us. there were some folks that wanted to cut back on pell grants, $1,000 per student. we were able to fight that off because it is so important that students stay in school. he had had to eliminate the two pell grants in one year. so we werent able to continue that. >> summer school grants. >> yeah. more important, they can use these grants during...

>> theres some in congress who want to get rid of the department of education, theyll be voting that way. thats not the presidents decision. his 2012 budget would, for example, keep pell grants where they are. $5,550 per student. he would have a nominal increase in the budget for head start to $8.1 billion. and then hes emphasizing his race to the top program, which in a nutshell essentially rewards innovation for school districts. but thats one philosophy. >> absolutely. and the presidents race...