understand what this incident, the levels of failure are just incredible, beyond belief. the levels of failure are incredible and beyond belief. again, if you please out of respect, let s just put up the feys here. 19 young children, two teachers who are heros. educators are heros no matter where they are for what they do, and these, the families of these victims deserve the answers more than anybody. more than anybody. peter, when you listen, credit due to colonel mcgraw for finally coming out and laying out the timeline as he did, and for saying quite candidly, of course it was the wrong decision. what questions do you have after listening to what we just went through? it s really hard. right? to listen to that as the chief said. the training, he focussed on how texas embraces active shooter
concurrently, and thanks to our federal and local partners and i want to mention behind me, we have a special agent in charge. we also have an atf special agent in charge or asak, and who else do i have behind sne texas ra ran rangers. if there s any information i don t have, they re a support on. i want to cover one thing quickly before questions. that s some of the questions we received that we have already received. and one of those is going around now that there was that, in fact, the subject had been one of the two arrested by the texas rangers and the local police back in 2018. that s not the case. it was not one of the individuals. in fact, we have found no links that associates his relationships to that investigation. clearly it was a threat. it was back in 2018. the two juveniles were charged
barbershop got a phone call from his wife inside and she said come get me. there s an active shooter. that officer helped rescue people. there s still accountability that needs to go on here, and the bottom line is cannot allow something like this to happen again. it certainly with chiefs of police, this is a senior person making this decision at this scene, and it was as the director here said, it was the wrong decision. the words are haunting. i can t imagine how they feel. grateful for your reporting on the scene. from where i m sitting, the corporal saying of course it was not the right decision. it was the wrong decision. colonel, i m sorry. it was the wrong decision. there s no excuse for that. let s get perspective from two veterans of police work, a special agent peter lakoda along with anthony boricsteel.
the biggest break down on any action we do is always communications breaks down. and not to make this simplistic. you can tell that the communication broke down from the 9-1-1 dispatchers to the on scene commander. too much indecisiveness in order to breach that door whatever means they could in order to try to stop this perpetrator. i picked up at 7:35, seven officers inside the building, and a total of 19 a few minutes later. what did the seven officers do? three officers to neutralize a subject. that s the minimum you need to get in. those are the questions i have. how well did they train? and why did the communications break down? and to that point, commissioner, peter lays out that it takes three, at least that s the minimum to form a stack and go in. the person at the front of the stack knows they re likely to
get shot. that s their job, and these are men of amazing courage. in this case, something broke done, and again, how does the command how should the command and control structure work in the sense that the if the person inside for whatever reason is making the wrong call, and you have officers outside, you have additional people responding. you have the 9-1-1 calls, i could go through the timeline again, but frankly, it makes me sick and sad at the same time. you have children inside the room using their phones to call 9-1-1. and this decision was not overruled. how is that supposed to work? john, if it s you, i, and peter, and we re in a stack, and i m the incident commander, i m the highest rank there, and i say no, just leave them. this is a barricade, and you two don t believe that i m making the right decision, you know what? you go. you deal with the consequences