pope pfrancis and some barking dogs. this is a big day for both men personally and professionally. let s bring in father dave dwyer, host of the busted halo show on sirious xm radio. good to see you as always. good morning, good morning. in terms of the perspective on this, could say, and i have been saying, only the second catholic president. sure. only the second, therefore, to meet with a sitting pope. it is a first, in a way, is it not? it is. popes have met with u.s. presidents over 39 years since dwight d. eisenhower. formalized diplomatic relations with the holy see and the united states only happened in 1984. so it s really the first sitting u.s. catholic president to meet with the pope since that has happened. and, of course, vatican city as a state, we know it s the smallest country in the world. only about 800 people are residents of it so you wouldn t say why is this all that significant? but there are 1.2 billion catholics around the world and