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>> he cared. >> he truly cared. >> it wasnt fake. >> it was really just all about my daughter, do you know what i mean, thats all we talked about. like i said, they were very gracious, they showed compassion and thats all we were here for, do you know what im saying? he listened to everything and we listened to him. he shed some tears, we shed some tears. >> reporter: and this morning we are at the memorial for victims. this is a site that is normally a place for live concerts in the summer and ...

All those witnesses theyre going to be unreliable. they will say different things so the investigators have to spend months sorting out why person a said something and person b said something fundamentally different about the same incident. you have to come back and say, okay, what did we learn from this? then there is a separate secondary question given what we learned and heard are there people there who didnt do the right thing? thats going to be i think one of the most painful parts of this....

Thats what i would say. >> would that be odd, though, for them to not have had that information relayed? obviously that would be a missing link, right? >> it would be surprising, but to learn that communications was garbled and that people on the scene were trying to figure out what to do in a situation they didnt fully understand that would not surprise me in the least. 17,000 police agencies and we expect perfect communication among them, i dont think so. >> chaos at a crime scene is a given b...

You are dealing with 17,000 police agencies, some of them have one, two, three, five officers, how do you train someone in a department of that size, you cant just familiarize them, you have to train them. how do you train that number of agencies to respond to an incident like this and differentiate between someone who is barricaded and when you have a live shooter situation? this is really more complicated than it might have looked at the outset last week, brianna. >> phil, take people through ...

>> it would be highly unusual, phil, for that on-scene commander to not be getting information from dispatch about these 911 calls. that is just regularly relayed information. so doj obviously needs to figure out what he was learning, assuming it was a he, maybe it was a she, but they need to find out what the on-scene commander was learning, right? >> yeah, i think there are some fundamental questions you look at here. this is not a criminal investigation the department of justice will do, that...

Again in a country with 17,000 agencies. when i underwent this training the expense of this is phenomenal. youre talking about having a facility where you can do this, having trainers to do this, doing it for days at a time with specialized equipment. each of those officers undergoing a training needs individualized responses, sometimes youre going to videotape the training so the officers can see themselves, and were anticipating that forces with lets say six to four officers, six to eight offi...

And former cia counterterrorism official phil mudd. michael, let me go to you first. thanks, gentlemen both for being with us. we appreciate it. michael, the school district police chief who decided not to breach the classroom, i keep coming back to this one. i cant understand it. you were someone who ran into the fire on january 6th. your reaction to learning about these officers standing back as these parents were begging for them to go in as 911 calls were coming in from the kids inside the c...

Those judgment calls. that being said, you know, i was a d.c. police officer for almost two decades. i was exposed to the active shooter training almost immediately after it was introduced to the law enforcement community. police officers primary responsibility is the preservation of life, and in that circumstance, it required the taking of the shooters life. i also know that, you know, an active shooter is a threat classification, and it remains so until that threat is neutralized. theres no tr...

America today. >> and michael, you mentioned the guidelines, cnn has obtained guidelines from the texas commission on law enforcement where it makes it clear, we can put this up on screen. an officers first priority is to move and confront the attacker. the document also says a first responder unwilling to place the looifts of the innocent above their own safety should consider another career field. i mean, what do you make of these guidelines? >> i mean, those are the guidelines. again, law enf...

Make sure your officers know how to respond. it sounds like they were rehiing on the response and assistance of nearby agencies to do this delicate tactical work that required as a result of the shooting. >> phil, what questions do you still have about this investigation? obviously, the shooting was just two days ago. what more are you wondering about that we havent found out in terms of the actual shooter? >> boy, theres a lot that people arent talking about that occurs to me after all the case...