buddies and allies to overturn the 2020 election. as we reported on this program at this hour yesterday, mark short, he s of course the former chief of staff to former vice president mike pence, testified before a d.c. grand jury last week. now according to new multiple reports, we also know that a second senior pence aide also testified. that would be greg jacob, pence s legal counsel. both men, of course, had a front row seat to the extraordinary pressure campaign on mike pence by trump and his allies, people like john eastman, to get pence to stop the certification of president joe biden s election victory on january 6th. wall street journal reports these stunning details about their testimony. quote, one area of interest to prosecutors was a january 4th, 2021, oval office meeting where conservative lawyer john eastman pushed pence in trump s presence to either reject the electoral votes outright or suspend the proceedings and asked several state legislatures to re-examine
short was treating matt gaetz in that clip. right? here is the problem with that supposed civil war that s happening between pence and trump. it s pretty one sided. obviously, trump sent a mob to kill mike pence. that s what s happening on one side of the war. on the other side of the war, mike pence is saying, you know, donald trump was really great. we just disagree with his judgement for a few hours that one day on january 6. we agree on everything except our focus is different. that s not how you win a war. when there s one team on the battlefield. we have this in arizona, the same thing this past weekend. pence was campaigning for one candidate. trump was campaigning for kari lake, who is this insurrectionist kind of fake, phony pretending to be a maga crazy. at the trump rally, they went hard after rusty bowers and said he was a traitor.