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To pay for this stuff however, when theyre sick theyll jump into the insurance and well have to take them and 2300% higher expenditure for those people who jump out. theyre going to game the system. >> brenda: pat, af been saying all along cost containment is not the reason for the bill and has not been considered. does this surprise you, this report? >> not really. because again, the focus was increasing coverage. and argue all day whether thats a good or bad thing. thats the focus, not attacki...