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Private insurers and in coming years, they include changes to that medicare tried to do a little bit less of paying for quantity of health care and more of paying for quality of health care. there are health experts to which the plan did more. there are those who see it as on the way to death panels. thats basically what -- >> >> the obama plan. the white house, basically are saying no commitment to any recipient, someone over 65, nobodys going to get hurt. is that fair? >> well, i dont know whe...

Now back to "hardball." >> you said earlier this year, rhine paul ryans earlier medicare proposal is absolutely right on. so im curious, is there anything about it you disagree -- >> well, the items we agree on i think outweigh any differences. i cant imagine any two people even in the same party that have exact there same positions on all issues. >> thats not very effective. the biggest risk of a rag candidate mike romney misses in picking a fire brand like paul ryan is all the gaps in romneys ...

A response to that. the saving his ad attacks do not cut a single guaranteed medicare benefit and mitt romney embraced the same savings when he promised he would sign paul ryans budget. david here. there we go back to the shell game that goes on here, where by paul ryan assumes the cut that is obama recommended in his affordable act bill, in fact, carried and signed. and yet, he says i wouldnt go that route. and back to the question of is it really going to work? the obama plan, to basically for...

>> i dont know that we know. if we were bogey to try to boil this down, they are there are so many different charges about who is cutting medicare more. i think what we would say is obama, for better or worse, has more modest changes or cuts to medicare. he has some. the republican plan has much more. so the question is how much change to medicare do you want? modest changes, obamas plan. or more radical changes because youre more worried about the fiscal sustainability of medicare. were not hea...

That medicare tried to do a little bit less of paying for quantity of health care and more of paying for quality of health care. there are health experts to which the plan did more. there are those who see it as on the way to death panels. >> the obama plan. the white house, basically are saying no commitment to any recipient, someone over 65, nobodys going to get hurt. is that fair? >> well, i dont know whether thats fair. anytime you change a program, it has the poesh l to be potential to be b...

Loose. romney had a plan. people were going to blame obama. give romney a try. what has happened with paul ryan is that this has now shifted. the president was trying to shift it all along to who stands up for the middle class. this now confirms that. the shift in the dimension to debating privatetizing social security, voucherizing medicare, slashing education. theyre worried not only about whats going to happen to the ticket, but to republican control of the house, which they thought was prett...

So the question is how much change to medicare do you want? modest changes, obamas plan. or more radical changes because youre more worried about the fiscal sustainability of medicare. were not hearing that debate because basically, neither side wants to. they want credit for being bold on the deficit. but they dont want credit for actually doing the things you need to do to cut the deficit, which is cut spending. >> i think david put it right and the way to think about this in the long-term, wh...

When congress failed to pass the dream act, president obama issued his own executive order to temporarily allow young illegal immigrants to live openly in the united states. tomorrow his plan dubbed deferred action for childhood arrivals takes effect. over 1.5 million people can apply for two-year reprieve from deportation and for work permits positively. and those eligible include undocumented i am grants between the ages of 15 and 30 who arrived in the u.s. before their 16th birthday. they mus...

System doesnt work and thinks the presidents plan doesnt work. and there are people like myself that understand in this country we play more money per patient than any other country on the planet and and i think one of the reasons why is because in the system. why again, success is not rewarded, failure is not punished. so republicans have to somehow put together a plan -- bobby jindals doing that. but more importantly, with.

Digging out of the deficit. president obama laid out his blueprint yesterday to chip away at the nations mind-bogging debt. not surprisingly the republicans say the plan doesnt work for them. >> reporter: under fire from critics who claimed that hes failed to lead, president obama laid out his new plan to blood up our red ink. >> we have to live within our means. we have to reduce our deficit and we have to get back on a path that will allow to pay down our debt. >> $4 trillion of deficit in fou...