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Isis is populist, the energy comes from the top up not from the top down. that adds to a problem. >> to add to that problem, you were making i thought a differentiation between isis directed and isis inspired. having said that, they are both potentially equally deadly. >> oh, quite so. that ties into the nature of mikes question here. this is kind of organic. this is kind of the idea the etiology spreading. look. when we went against al qaeda, mika, we actually got really good at catching their ...