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that he had been rumored to be dead this most recent recording released last year u.s. officials say they're working to verify the authenticity of the message. hugh heffner the founder of playboy magazine has died at the age of ninety one credited with helping assure in the one nine hundred sixty s. sexual revolution with his groundbreaking men's magazine hefner was also known for his hedonistic lifestyle which he kept up well into his eighty's his critics said he just peddled pornography and several of his female employees called bunnies said they were raped at parties in his hollywood home the playboy mansion. currents in iraq vote yes for independence but iraq isn't going to let them go without a fight and turkey is threatening to get involved in the conflict as well i'm sorry i'm in berlin this is the day.
so that the people of kurdistan have made their decision and entered a new phase different from anything in the past. that nobody blame us for this but that they took advantage of the situation and broke the bounds of the constitution and upward for the for the more than the one i don't want to sign they will use force. barzani and the northern iraqi administration will go down in history bearing the shame of pushing our region into an endless sectarian war coalition. that iraq after two thousand and three was established by american and coalition forces america has to mediate to save the blood of iraqis and avoid civil war between kurds and arabs. also on the show the founder of playboy
just affect the kurdish people. we have a beacon on but off refugees that using the airport and we used to be a bridge between syria and you in two sense the humanitarian aid to those places and we host to coalition forces here so this is meant to be put everything. after voting for a session kurds in iraq could hardly contain themselves thousands flooded the streets in northern iraq to celebrate the referendum they had been pushing for for years we have been living under occupation and suffering for one hundred years but today we rejected that yes for independence and freedom for the kurdish people. iraqi kurdistan is already an autonomous region but the minority kurds want to break away to form an independent state that would include areas like the oil rich region near cute cook. baghdad has called the vote unconstitutional iraq's prime
minister has vowed to keep iraq from breaking apart. but they took advantage of the situation and expanded outside the constitution i don't want to say that we will use force but we will use understanding and constitutional means if they respond to this then that's fine and today i demand that they return all the areas they recaptured from the islamic state it's what parliament decided that. iraq's neighbors have also rejected the referendums results the turkish president warned that the kurds responding an ethnic war in the region a lot at stake here daniel girl off as a middle east analyst from zenith magazine he joins me now for more daniel thanks for being in the studio with us having me is barzani playing poker here is he really betting for independence or is this the beginning of a negotiation or isn't is definitely a great poker player and he understands the power gamble in the middle east very
well and he's part of it. i think it's an option and it's a very viable option for them i think he has a strong power base of people who believe that independence is the right way to go with all the collapsing structures and states around them and i think there is something else stake which is his political survival and his family's political survival because he's not an contender and there's other contenders and i think this referendum is a good opportunity to rally support in courtice tano in the caribbean northern iraq behind him and turkey really does not want this to happen how dangerous are those threats of intervention in turkey. turkey has been intervening in the north of iraq at multiple occasions they have been targeting the p.k. k. in the condom mountains with the consent silent consent of the government by the way they have probably protested every now and then but they let them operate there . i think. don of course we know him he would like strong words and
he likes to express his views in a spectacular fashion but i think. the political strategic is they have made their peace with the idea that there is going to be some sort of kurdish strong autonomy or even an independent state in the north of iraq and let's not forget that they're one of their main business partners but i think the big mistake that the kurds in the north of iraq might make is they have been the l.-i of many powers as long as they were an undeclared independent state but once they turn into a really independent state i think they will many of their but they're just and countries many of the neighbors will turn against them and they will make many enemies and turkey might be one of them but let's not be naive i think out of god knows what's going on he knows that this was this was going to happen sooner than later ok so this has been in the cards you're saying what is it going to mean for the fight against isis. the kurds have done a great deal of fighting against isis the peshmerga have taken on isis and they've
a long time and i think backed out and would be less long as they say just exchange words strong words they know what's at stake you ok sound optimistic who has the tension global way to diffuse the situation if anyone. well of course some fans or is the united states and russia i've talked to russian experts about the like the idea of an independent kurdish state and. they say we don't mind to have another i mean that's not the official position of course but if you talk to russian expert they say we have iran and turkey at a sudden interest they want to influence in our southern comfort a comfort zone we don't mind having another state but we don't want to push for it and i think the russians are trying to gain some leverage through a quarter state but the americans a president too so i think these two powers have have a lot of leverage to at least two two which would delay a decision of an independence movement but i don't think that they can stop it i don't care a lot he's a middle east analyst we're seeing a magazine thanks for being with us on the thanks for having me.
on to the fallout from the german election now the far right alternative from germany won more than ninety seats in parliament raising fears of a potential surge in populism and anti semitism for those who lived through the holocaust some of the i.a.f. days rhetoric is hauntingly familiar we spoke with horst zellweger a holocaust survivor who endured forced labor under the nazis and saw most of his family murdered now ninety years old so margaret says that for him the rise of a.f.g. comes as no surprise that if this most i didn't do it can deal with. fascism in germany never went away it just took on a new form will you fall. yeah the. yeah yeah i don't see. we will hound this government we will hunt down chancellor
america or whomever else we need to we will take back our country and there are people. who are suited and want to see one thing on the borders from nine hundred thirty nine again . clearly remembers the beginning of nazi rule in germany at school in berlin he was virtually abused and beaten up by his classmates. it started with him calling me horrible names like smart alec jew or jewish pig. it got worse and worse more offensive and then deadly. in my two. sixty one members
of the bigots extended family were murdered in the holocaust fascism and germany's coming to terms with its nazi past our core issues in his life and after seeing so much in his ninety years he's horrified by sunday's german election result he's been sharing his reactions online. to be honest i don't understand the astonishment and anger that he i have today has made it into parliament nazis have been in parliament since one thousand nine hundred forty nine they had nazi ministers one was even chancellor. yorkies inger was chancellor from one thousand nine hundred sixty six to sixty nine former nazi party members held seats in the west german parliament until the one nine hundred eighty s. across most of the political spectrum. down because she is the rise of the f.t. as a continuation of this tradition. yes. i
just hope that a real change of thinking happens here. and that this long standing refusal to take the fire right seriously will finally be confronted. we have to expose this ugly extremism and i hope this confrontation will play out in the new german parliament that. i don't want to see the f.t. take over on the contrary. for more i'm joined now by being labor he's the correspondent for britain's tog newspaper and focuses on right wing populism and the a.f.d. founded thanks for being with us today we heard mr selinger in that report say
fascism in germany never went away and he sees the a.f.d. is a continuation of naziism do you think that's an accurate description of them. i think it's a little bit too easy to describe i think there's not a real continuity between for example in a win or nazis in the fifty's or sixty's of this of the last century and these new right thing populists i mean they tried to reinterpret for example the history and they are for example in islamophobia a party i think but it's not not and repeat cation of the nazi party of the of the last century i think so we have to be a little bit careful when it comes to definitions here i think now would you classify the a.f.d. as anti-semitic the problem here is that the a fifty is not an openly anti-semitic party it's quite the opposite in the interpretation of the safety of how they interpret themselves for example the former. chairman of the party of how
completely i mean she stepped down now but she for example is quite the a fifty is a kind of guarantee power for jews living in germany to protect them when it comes to and this may take forces or to anticipate to take sentiments from migrants for example so and another example is that they have strong ties to some organizations in israel for example so that don't distance themselves from israel but on the other hand i think they really tried to. yes to to to. reinterpret the german history in some way so you're saying there revisionist have also nile is a crime here in germany it's not everywhere in the world but it is here how revisionists is they actually. here it comes as well to the birding because you don't have any prominent politician of the a few who is really denying the holocaust but for example under golland another
prominent politician of the f.t. talked recently about these twelve years when it came to the nazi period so when in germany in germany normally you very openly speak about the nazis about hitler germany for example some of them words and not about these twelve years that sounds very distant for me yes and i think. here it's. yes that is the problem here yes when we talk about anti-semitism in germany and specifically in berlin some of the reports of anti-semitic attacks have been coming not from the far right but allegedly from muslims your paperwork morning on this alleged incident at a berlin school involving arab and turkish students bullying a jewish student how big is that problem i mean we have this problem here but we are discussing about this problem and i think it should not be a topic of this right wing populist party alone so we should talk about migration and maybe these people who are coming if they are refugees they are coming indeed
from countries like syria where aunties emits. opinions were very openly discussed all right that's fabienne labor he's a correspondent for berlin tog spiegel newspaper thanks for being with us on the day thank you. well the founder of playboy hugh hefner has died at the age of ninety one hefner gained instant fame when he launched playboy magazine in the one nine hundred fifty s. the adult publication created a sensation in conservative america after spawning the brand into a publishing empire but critics accuse him of degrading and objectifying women flowers and a string of well wishes for the bunny king outside the famous playboy mansion in los angeles. it was here that hugh hefner ran his major net ten mins empire usually clouded his trademark so but john was. it takes
a. special event to get me. to get out of my pajamas. there put on a pair of pants. with a cafferty crafted mix of nude photos highbrow articles and big name fiction have struck a chord with playboy more than sixty years ago the men's magazine quickly became a roaring success half not his girly bag and his lifestyle was symbols of the sexual revolution and shook out puritanical american values really brought the pop culture to life you know it during a time when he was very conservative and this was something that kind of went against the grain but he did it in a very tasteful way and you know and he's just created so many great things as a result of do we know and really bringing pop culture to hold the love of others condemned teff not for degrading women treating them as objects of male fantasy just as many were fighting for basic rights and equal opportunities the internet
age so playboy circulation plummet but by then half turned his bunnies had already transformed popular culture. and more than six decades later he's still a household name for more on hugh hefner i'm joined now by christopher nepali tano he was the editorial director of playboy magazine between two thousand and five and two thousand and nine chris our thanks for being with us now your title was editorial director because editor in chief was reserved for hugh hefner sounds like a man who was very involved in his business well liked working for him i was great it was a big business and his focus was the magazine and then it's very content in america so in one hand. frequent dialogues with them and on the other hand he was there to . protect our decisions and and oh i was to do what we do best. we've we've heard a lot about who have been our throughout the day good things bad things in your
mind a few people who knew him personally tell us what your favorite are anecdotes. oh my goodness well he was just you know always very very entertaining always very engaged he was extremely smart so i often didn't want to tangle with him or debate with him on the phone or in person i would have to gather my thoughts he would he had some phrases just like you find if i knew what the hell you were trying to do it would help you do it. you know and. he always was very forthcoming about his personal life i remember going out to the mansion right after one of his girlfriends of broken up with him in a very public way and he said i don't have he said personally and professionally ok personally how you doing is like i feel like road kill my heart's been smashed over but tonight we're having a party and maybe there's some young cull it will make me feel better and then he
gave a big you know his trademark cackle. so you know he he was a guy who who knew what he was about very sure footed very sure thinking if he didn't have an opinion on something it meant that it wasn't worth having an opinion on. so whereas i am a bit of a pleaser and i always want to give the right answer for have just said what he thought he had that direct connection between his mind and his mouth and he was very very adept at expressing. some some good thoughts in said that you yourself are a bit of a place where you studied comparative religion as a student at columbia and you have any qualms about working in a magazine that features full frontal nudity. no you know i was raised catholic and so all of that kind of. kind of had an impact on the way i learned to look at the world and comparative religion is not the ology for saying
it's about how the bible was put together particularly my area of study was the new testament so to learn about how these various stories were were compiled in call aided and then later seen as the word of god is you know very reverent tory you know you learn that jesus had no brother to which i'm catholic dogma is really not allowed so going from that cuts a verse of thought to something like playboy believe it or not there are a lot of catholics drawn to this kind so i was not alone i think i can believe that you know it is that you know it's a very sad but playboy it's been around for what like sixty years it's survived and magazine publishing crisis the advent of internet pornography how do you manage to stay relevant and just stay in business. what's interesting i think was the first magazine to be a brand i mean it was the precursor to what all magazines are talking about today
we're not a magazine we're brand we're online grown social well playboy was very social it had clubs you know it had hotels it tried to bring to life at every turn even in my tenure there was relaunched a playboy club in las vegas that was wildly successful so any time you could try to capture and make real the fantasy that was present in the magazine you had a hit so that kind of branding and extension of that rabbit had logo was sort of built into the d.n.a. from the very start and you were at it and arcelor actor i'm sorry go ahead. no and that's allowed it to go on in various incarnations you were editorial director from two thousand and five to two thousand and nine i'm sure you've heard your share of criticism how do you respond to people who say playboy objectifies women. well you
know i think that the women who appear in the magazine can address it best. and they can talk about how they what the magazine did for them in establishing them in terms of their personality in their careers. proved very useful to many women and as an expression of what they felt so for them they're coming from from one angle from a critic's perspective you know objectification is really a reduction as anything that we did successfully present or enticing imagery or an enticing personality really required us to speak about who that woman was and what she wanted to do and quote her accurately all that was very important to our readers because then they determine where they both like her and her not so it's a bit of a male psychological thing. but yeah i mean there's there's. there's
objectification goes on and almost every aspect of our lives. we're not immune to the criticism and people make it so so all right with me it's kind of a question to say at this point oh i read playboy for the articles but playfully has over the decades published some of the best writer is that each generation what do you personally most proud of from the time you were there. well we did a lot of good things i mean we really presented a lot of i worked with norman mailer john updike publishing those guys was great. one thing i'm very proud of is sending mark boal to iraq and publishing the story the man in the bomb suit and he later took those experiences and turned into the hurt locker. we had an acclaimed writer here dennis johnson who. came off winning the national book award and he wanted to write
a four part serial written on spec so every thirty days he would come up with a new chapter that we published in the issue very proud of that. so yeah i mean we're i just was flipping through some of our older magazines and on there there are all impressed with the amount of good material that's in there i mean juno walter mosley. weidman joyce carol oates a lot of pain and i leave it there and let me just i mean really it's like you're running out of time you have here is being buried next to one of the most famous names of all marilyn monroe how did that happen tell us that story. he went out and he brought that that that box that's level marble next door and that in that muzzle him he was infatuated with her he was she was always on his mind it was you know every every six months it's i think it's time to start talking about marilyn again
we like the it's enough marilyn for now. but she would be on the cover you know regularly every two three years see and as editors you get cynical and you think oh that's too much but you know you meet people and they all mention her there he would be like she's with her son. and he knew what everybody else like too so sometimes we're we're sitting here we're too smart for own good we're going to have to leave it there christopher dippolito know he was the editorial director of playboy magazine until two thousand and nine. well the day is nearly done but the conversation continues online you'll find us on twitter use the hash tag the day i found out. he was one of the bees in apa by me and the sun. now benny is back
EmployeesNorthern-iraqIndependenceVotePartiesIraq-isn-tHomeCurrentsHollywoodPlayboy-mansionTurkeyConflictreally incontrovertible and available in the public domain. >> while this admission might seem in significant, it's not. for more than a year president trump has refused to accept that russia meddled calling the probe a hoax and a witch hunt. >> the russia story is a total fabrication fabrication. it's just an excuse for the greatest loss in the history of american politics. >> this russia thing with trump and russia is a made up story. >> the entire thing has been a witch hunt. how many times do i have to answer this question? it's a ruse. i've been in office 11 months. for 11 months they've had phony cloud over our government. it's a democrat hoax brought up for an excuse losing ha election frankly the democrats should have won because they have such
facebook. the pages issues in american life. race relations. immigration. and of course then candidates hillary clinton and donald trump. facebook estimates close to 126 million americans may have been exposed to this and other propaganda. federal investigators say the group behind it is the internet research agency link today the kremlin. russia has denied any involvement in the u.s. elections. and the security conference saturday russian foreign minister again dismissed those claims. >> translator: i have no response. until we see the facts, everything else is just blatter. >> then there are the rallies. in may 2016 a small group of anti-islamic protests gathered outside houston texas. situation grew intense with counter rally. the very month of the election, both pro and anti-trump demonstrations held in new york. u.s. prosecutors say both events were authorized by this same
them to stop potential future meddling. and no real sign from the administration that they are going to take aggressive steps to prevent russia from interfering again in the future elections. one coming up just a few months away in november. instead, what we have seen from the administration is a focus on democrats and the media. i want you to listen to what debbie press secretary hogan told fox news earlier today. watch this. >> there are two groups that have created chaos more than the russians. and that's the democrats and the mainstream media who continue to push this lion the american people for more than a year. and quite frankly americans should be outraged by that. >> so, again, the blame for election meddling not squarely placed on vladimir putin or his cronies but rather decks and the media, at least according to hogan didily. that thinking not a lining with other republicans, including
i don't imagine he would say them if they didn't maybe mean something. but putting that all aside, yeah, i feel like from a political point of view, you say this is serious. we acknowledge this. and we look forward -- to me, it's a very simple thing to do. if you have even the slightest degree of cyst plin, l degree of discipline, and let it move on and he seems to be incapable of doing that. >> and we should point out we know people like flynn, papadopoulos, pleaded guilty. what message do you think mueller was sending with this indictment? >> well, i think what he's saying is he's going to investigate this diligently and return an indictment if they can gather the evidence, which they gathered, of what these individuals did. and i think that my last 11 years in the fbi, i was senior executive, my last seven under
robert mueller, and i can tell you that's why we don't know what's going on in that investigation. he runs a tight ship. several dozen agents that are assigned to him in this investigation, you've heard nothing from them. and we are always surprised, we were sur surprised when rod rosenstein made the announcement. people were wondering what is this going to be when he announced a press conference. so that's the nature of this. this investigation is not over by any means. and i think you are right nobody should be celebrating in the end zone that they are being exonerated. we just don't know. and i think that the rod rosenstein was quite clear, although a lot i've heard a lot of people on air that missed this point, that this indictment, this indictment doesn't show collusion, doesn't show that any results were successful in attempting to influence the election. just that they tried and they have the evidence of who did it and how they did it and brought a dpiemt throu a diemtd throuindictment throug
grand jury with them. >> why do they say president trump has a problem saying this isn't about russia but doesn't have any problem going after ally when they don't agree with what they say or do. think of the u.k. and what has happened there? >> i think it goes back to his views of his legitimacy as president. i think if you can strain out all the other things, what he hears, we are all listening to what rod rosenstein is saying in the press conference, we are reading through these documents, we are picking out pieces. what the president is hearing is, you know, you are elected, and it wasn't on the level. you didn't achieve. you are not a brilliant candidate. you won for some reason apart from your own, you know, unique incredible political abilities. that's what he's hearing and reacting to. many and . and if you read his twitter feed it's all about democrats this,
and hear from the white house this is weapon of destruction mainstream media. i think it's important to the extent we can put ourselves in his shoes and what he hears here is what you did, your great accomplishment is not legitimate. >> so, tim, you had said something earlier that struck me. you said any attempt now to undermine the mueller investigation at this point could credibly be described as treason. explain that. >> well, the mueller investigation, if you look at the mandate, was always supposed to look to see if there was any coordination or contact between associates of the trump campaign and russia. so it was part of the brief. but now we have publicly accessible information, which means the president has this information, that shows there was a russian effort to undermine our democracy. that means that any attempt by an american citizen right now, whoever it is, to undermine the
mueller investigation, you have to interpret as a way to help russia. i mean, we know that the mueller investigation is trying to figure out why russia did this to the extent you can. who was involved. to what extent did they influence our democracy. again, based on what you can learn through the means at their disposal. anybody who tries to intervene in that process is making it harder for our country to defend itself against russia. that's why the reason of treason arises. it's a game changer. this is a much, much more serious investigation and more publicly serious. there was a time when only people in the intelligence community and then in congress knew what they had been finding. now the american people do. and now members of the white house do. i don't know what they knew before, but they certainly know it now. so for the president to start playing the game that he was, to undermine the credibility of the mueller investigation, a lot of folks are going to say to the president, mr. president, you
don't want an independent investigation of russia's intervention in our democracy? why not? this raises the stakes for him. it's not the political game for him that it was before. and my hope, because i wanted the united states to have a credible national security policy, my hope is the president will start distancing himself from russia big time and showing that he's embarrassed about having been putins candidate. this is embarrassing. the president of the united states was putin's or at least russia's candidate. that should be embarrassing to mr. trump, to president trump. that's not any reason to have a victory lap at all. >> i want to give you the final thought, tom. >> well, i think that one of the things to point out here is this is not something new. this goes back to the cold war soviet union with their trade craft continued when they became the russian federation in 1991. they contribute to protest groups over the years. a
an anonymously, of course. but this is back in the 60s, 70s, 80s, doing that, trying to show the rest of the world that they have the answer to run a country with their system, and our democracy is dysfunctional, and we actually help them prove that case, that we can't pass laws, that we can't agree, that we are all divided. and anything they can do to widen that wedge between various factions in this country, they do it and take advantage of it. and it's still ongoing now, with or without their help, it's continuing. >> tom, tim, gregory, thank you all. >> thank you. >> straight ahead to florida, where the outrage is boiling over. >> every politician who is taking donations from the nra, shame on you. >> a powerful message straight from the stewudents who survivea massacre. their calls for change next.
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message. >> we lost 17 lives on valentine's day. that's supposed to be international day of love. we'll take the love that we lost on wednesday and spread it over the next week, days, months and maybe even years. the love you shared and continue to share is going to help us get through these trying times. eagles i promise you, i'll hug each and everyone of you as many times as you need and i'll hold you as long as you need me to for all 3300 of you and your families and we'll get through this together. >> now to the person responsible for all of this pain and fear and unbeliefable sorrow for so many people. the killer. 19 years old. he has confessed to the shooting. to killing 17 people according to law enforcement. people who know him say they aren't surprised that, he has a long history of struggle and
violence. his online posts do nothing to dispute those images. he does hate speech. here in parkland, florida, kalgly who went to school, live next to him, teachers, all paint this picture of someone capable of horrible violence. >> yeah, they do. we continue to learn disturbing habits on and off line of the confessed school shooter. cnn was actually allowed access into a private group instagram chat that he was a part of. in it, he pronounces his views rateist and homophobic and anti-semitic. shares photos that illustrates his obsession with guns and violence. now, since cruz joined instagram group chat in 2017 primarily 6 individuals. they confused their identities.
they are younger than 16 years old. i'm going to warn you his language is disturbing. as he would write, hate, i hate jus, n, immigrants, shoot them in the back of the head. i think i am going to kill people. over the course of this story, we have also learned that the shooter spent most of his life in an adopted home. here in this group chat he wrote, quote, my real mom was a j jew. i'm glad i never met her. we are told by authorities that called to the home that cruz lived in. we are learning of one specific incident in september of 2016 gotten into a fight with a mother. she ha ledged to short tlorts he was cutting himself. investigates came to the home and yet determined he was not at risk to harm himself or others. we now know that not to be true. >> such a shame all the way
around. carly, thank you. i want to bring in ha career law enforcement official and current deputy mayor of new york. sed trick, this 19-year-old shooter now charged with murdering 17 people. he has a mental health history apparently very long and extensive. classmates say he talked about killing about shooting up the school. fbi now we know got tips specific to this shooter. and i want you to listen to what he apparently told a neighbor after his mother died last november. >> i was emotionless. i wasn't sure if it was shock or what was going on. but he had no emotion to him. he was just -- then i asked are you sad? you know, can i help you? and he said i'm sad because nobody showed up. >> he was upset nobody showed up to his mother's funeral. reporting just four people were there. and some were asking was that the straw that broke the camel's
back. but we also nolo cal law enforcement responded to this person's home 39 times. at what point does law enforcement intervene? when is the time for them to intervene? >> well, let's back up a little bit. i think one thing that is important to point out, and a, when we look at this 19-year-old young man, is that he certainly without question had a culmination of severe events happened in his life. probably loss of parents we know at this point. loss of connectedness. emotionless that you hear about is someone who became totally detached in many ways. and probably suffered with some really for long time homicidal and suicidal aid yae ideations. and got to a point when got to a place when there were
opportunities to intervene to help him through this. so what we end up with home and address police went over 29 years over the period of seven years and i'm quite sure they flag the residents in a number of ways. a number of officers been to that residence a number of times. but nothing ever from their visits to suggest anything else other than family trouble or something that didn't rise to the level of such as what we have today. so this is sad on a whole lot of levels. unfortunately he did not receive the help he could have received very early on. and we may have permitted or had an opportunity to get in the way of 17 lives being lost here, which i'm still very sad and very angry about myself. >> so am i. and as a parent myself it feels personal when you see children in particular affected. >> well, it is personal. and now if we listen to these children, these young kids in
this school, they are young adults and becoming young adults, and in a few years they'll finish high school and college and going to go into the workforce and voting citizens. they'll carry this trauma with them for a long time. they are going to be the ones going forward in the future who are going to determine who the next politicians that's going to set in those seats in washington and in the home state local communities because what they are saying is enough is enough. these are coming from young people. and over the last couple of days we've watched them on television articulate their thoughts and feelings. and we can see how bright they are. how smart they are. how fought thul they are and how committed they are in terms of helping to make a change in this nation when it comes to gun violence. >> yeah. i want to ask you about lessons learned. because i spoke with columbine principal frank deyoung ang less when he was there almost 20 years ago and talked about how there were protocol changes when it comes to respond to go active
shooters for example. so there is always a takeaway you hope when all of these tragedies happen. what will be the lessen from this one? >> lesson from here we should have learned many times before, when someone is identifiable to us and may have a severe issue, a severe mental health issue, and making threats as such, we no longer can take any of these threats for granted. and i said the other night, you can go up on any website and see all kind of foolishness of people holding gun or masquerading weapons or making crazy statements. and what i implore to the american public we can no longer joke around that way. and we also have to ask social media to create some new restraints as well as what's going to be posted online. because police cannot go beyond 300 million websites in this country and keep up with them all. >> correct. could it help if social media flagged thoem accounts?
>> absolutely if they flag them. but they'll have to come up with new parameters what they are going to allow. because you won't have enough police or social service toss follow behind what's up there now. this is a very sad case. but the young people are being very aggressive. being very verbal. and they are making it clear to all of us in this nation not again. enough is enough. >> no doubt about it. sedrick alexander, thanks for being here. >> good to be here. >> we want you to remember the names and faces of the here are some of the 17 w perished.
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they are enabling and the blood of 17 people and all those injuries and all the families that have been hurt, this is all on them. they have us thinking this is inevitable and that we can't do anything to stop it. it's too difficult. we are done with that. the gop has a bon doned us and left us to people like nikolas cruz. >> this is what speaker ryan said. >> we need to think less of taking sides and fighting each other politically and pulling together. >> i disagree with that statement. because it's very clear that there are two sides to this and there are certain people that accept money from the nra and i believe speaker ryan is one of those people. it doesn't seem like the country is coming together. they are sending prayers and condolences but not taking action the way they should be. >> those we are hearing from others is that the nra didn't purchase the gun. the nra didn't pull the trigger. nra didn't conspire to kill. >> they might have pulled the
trigger, but they are who allowed him to buy the gun. >> someone who isn't allowed to buy alcohol legally is allowed to buy a war weapon like where does that make sense. >> does this make you uncomfortable what you are hearing from people who want to limit access to weapons? >> i just don't feel it's realistic to expect people to just deny right they've been given by the second amendment. and throughout the entire history of this country. i just feel like if we take small steps now that are plausible, maybe later we can actually take larger steps that will stop things from ever happening again. >> i think mental health is something that everybody can get on. >> if nikolas cruz spoke to one official, someone who knows mental health for five minutes before he bought that gun, they would have instantly said not only is this person not able to wield this gun responsibly, this american belongs in counseling. >> mental health hasn't brought
washington together before. what's your degree of confidence that anything will happen? >> i've never seen this kind of reaction to something like this. >> i don't have a degree of confidence at all. >> stories like these, like you hear about them on the news, and a week later we are onto something else. >> every time this happens, it's flowers, it's love. but right now there is this air of change. parkland i feel it, everybody is inspired. everybody is ready to make parkland the last city to deal with it. >> 17 people lost their lives in the high school shooting. we honor their memory tonight.
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following alleged a fair and new claim against an extra marital merger. that story dates to 2006 when the apprentice was shooting and having a party at the playboy mansion in los angeles. the donald trump was there and an according to the new yorker so was karen mcdougal. the magazine said start of whirlwind and pointing out wives bedroom. even he profile events like the launch of trump vodka and miss universe pag nt. mcdougal told the mac seen she paid for everything as reimbursed to prevent a paper trail leading to trump. the white house says this is an old story that is just more fake news. the president says he never had a relationship with mcdougal. so how did the new yorker come up with the sordid tale? a friend of mcdougal supposedly gave the magazine eight
handwritten pages. >> she wrote a detailed chronicle of this a fair in the course of selling this story. >> the story did sell to the company that owns the "national enquirer" for $150,000 days before the election. according to the wall street journal and the new yorker. why didn't you read it? because "national enquirer" did not publish story blocked anyone else from coming out with details. "national enquirer" has made no comment on that part of the story. >> we reached out to mcdougal and we heard no more. many allegations bins trump of other affairs, sexually behavior, disrespectful, including a racist comment. so is all of this getting to the first lady? we don't know. all she appears to be keeping some distance from the president, she is also keeping quiet. ana. >> tom foreman, thank you. so black panthers breaking
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lifting up a proud image. so good to see you tonight. how does it feel to be part of something so big right now? >> good to see you, too. it feels amazing. i mean, it is a huge celebration. just to see how everyone is in love with the movie. everyone is coming out with their african garb and outfits. it is a huge, huge celebration. i really didn't expect it to be this huge. >> what is your message to the fans. >> look, my message to the fans is if you like superhero movies you are going to love this film. if you love action films, you are going to love this film. i have seen it a couple of times with different audiences and everybody loves the film because it is ultimately a great story. also, you know, it highlights africa in such a great, positive light of what could really be
possible. the most exciting part for me were the women of this film. and it just reminds me of our african mothers who really are the backbone of our society. and they really kick butt. can i say ass on cnn? >> sure. you just did. >> my fault. my fault. >> i know you are so passionate about this, about your work, about your culture. some people are calling this film a real culture breakthrough. is that how you see it? >> yeah. well, i think it is kind of a breakthrough the same way that star wars was a breakthrough. right? we have had like blade before. but i think at the time that "blade" came out, superhero, marvel films or superhero characters didn't have the light and interest that they have today. so that's what i would say. i don't think it compares to obama being elected, right,
because at the end of the day it is a film. but what i'm hoping is that it will show that black leads can carry a movie, and it can play globally and be bankable. hopefully we can get more movies like that. >> i haven't seen the film yet. a lot of people will be like, okay, now i have to look for you in this movie. what character do you play? >> well, look, i'm the militant leader. my part comes fairly in the beginning. i kind of open the film up in a way. so get there early. my black people, please, this is not the time to be late. you got to show up on time and get ready and you're going to be blown away. >> go ahead. >> no. i was going to say there is one more thing. it is also kind of bittersweet because, as you know, i have been here as a daca recipient and dreamer. and to be a part of such a great
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PresidentProbeAdmissionSignificantRussia-meddledPublic-domainStoryHistoryRussiansExcuseHoaxLossto fund the government, which by the way, in the space of a few days he endorsed and threatened to votto and didn't veto in the end, the president was asked three questions. two about the bill which he answered and one he did not. >> thank you all very much. >> lying about the affairs? >> well, on the way out to marine one, the same story. >> mr. president, is karen mcdougal telling the truth? >> any comment on mrs. mcdougal. >> will you watch "60 minutes" on sunday? will you watch "60 minutes" mr. president? >> well, the president also ignored questions at joint base andrews taking the long way to avoid members of the press. this is a president who, as you know, doesn't shy away from speaking his mind about even the most serious allegations against him, including allegations of sexual misconduct. he is, however, silent about the alleged relationship karen
of mind with everything else. and you know, deep inside, i did have a lot of guilt, but i still continued. >> you believe, though, that he had real feelings for you? >> of course he did. mm-hmm. i know he did. >> he would say it then? >> he did. >> were you in love with him? >> i was, yeah. imham. >> do you think he was in love with you? >> he was, yeah. >> did donald trump ever say to you that he loved you? >> all the time. he always told me he loved me. yeah. of course. >> so where is this picture from? >> that picture is from the apprentice release party that they had at the playboy mansion. they filmed it like a month beforehand, which is where i met him. then they had the release party when "the apprentice" actually aired. that's when that was. >> this is a picture with ivanka trump, melania trump, several of your colleagues and yourself. >> correct. >> did -- so was that the first
like, again, when you're doing something wrong, you try to push everything out of the way and make it as right as you can in your mind. so i met, you know, all his kids, except for barron, of course. and i just tried to shake it. but now it gets to me, but then it didn't. >> did he ever compare you to any of his kids? >> you know, he's very proud of ivanka. as he should be. she's a brilliant woman. she's beautiful. she's, you know, that's his daughter, and he should be proud of her. he said i was beautiful like her. and you know, you're a smart girl. there wasn't a lot of comparing, but there was some, yeah. i heard a lot about her. yeah. >> did you think maybe this would lead to a marriage? >> maybe. >> that's something, though, you liked him enough, that's something you would have liked? >> maybe.
>> if melania trump is watching this, what would you want her to know? >> that's a tough one. >> or say to her. >> yeah. what can you say except i'm sorry. i'm sorry. i wouldn't want it done to me. i'm sorry. >> well, the white house press conference scheduled for 1:00 today was canceled. the issue was sure to come up. then the president tweeted he would have a pres conference today, which raised the possible he himself would take questions on it, but there was not a press conference. he answered two questions off mike and avoided the third. we asked for a statement but still haven't gotten it, and quite understandably, no statement from the first lady, who hosted what was billed as a woman of courage event. >> let us think for a moment about what courage truly is. courage is the quality most
needed in this world. yet it is often the hardest to find. courage sets apart those who believe in higher calling and those who act on it. it takes courage not only to see wrong but strive to right it. >> the first lady did tweet out a photo yesterday. she and the president with a snowy lawn in the background. she doesn't send out a lot of tweets of pictures with her husband. she sent it about ten hours before the interview hit. also, yesterday, the official white house schedule hit, saying the couple would depart the white house together. however in florida, it was family all the way down the stairs, the president, the first lady, and their son. as for the departure, we reached out to had first lady's office for an explanation or comment on the change but did not receive a response. jeff zeleny said the president's announcement of john bolton after dumping his secretary of state, was done in part to take the spotlight off the interview
with karen mcdougal. and jeff zeleny's sources are correct, that would be an extraordinary move, even for this president, announcing the replacement of a top adviser, at least in part to deflect from a former playboy model talking about a 12-year-old alleged affair. jeff did the reporting on the curious timing of the bolton story, also the one trying to get answers from the president today. jeff joining us now from the white house. the president not wanting to say anything at all about this today. >> he did not. we asked him questions, shouted questions to him as he was le e leaving the white house south lawn. at the end of a very busy day here, a very tumultuous week here. clearly did not want to answer these questions. it was notable he was walking alone. melania trump, the first lady, was arrived separately to andrews air force base outside washington. we, of course, saw them departing there in west palm beach, florida, but certainly, there was a sense here today, anderson, this was a different moment. as for the announcement of john
bolton, i was told by administration officials that this did play a part in it. it was always scheduled to happen, but it was going to be announced as part of a bigger group of announcements. now, of course, the president controls the timing on all of this. he was also furious this week about a leak from the vladimir putin phone call, when he was told not to congratulate him. so many things played a role in this. but i am told the president, as we know, watches cable television, and other television, and reads many newspapers, was keying in to this, and clearly was eager to change the subject. anderson, certainly, as the family, the trump family is mar-a-lago for the weekend, it's unknown what the status of their time together will be. of course, we'll be watching for the president on social media, other places, but certainly, this had a different feeling today here at the white house, anderson. >> jeff, appreciate that. in just the last few moments, we got breaking news on the silence from the president. the "wall street journal" reported the president has been
asking advisers whether he should break it and publicly fight the allegations. advisers told him there's no sign the allegations have hurt him with voters and have warned him it would look inappropriate to engage with among others a adult star. maggie haberman is with us. i saw you on new day this morning. you were talking about exactly what the journal is reporting tonight, about advisers telling him that there is no upside to coming out on this. >> and there really isn't. look, he's been cautioned over time that there's no upside to a lot of the fights he picks and he usually can't help himself. he's been pretty restrained this time. him asking advisers about what he should do, and that is something he has been doing for a while, but i think that he is watching night by night, your interview with ms. mcdougal, all of us talking and saying he's being really silent. then that makes him think, maybe
i soonlt do it. i expect he will stay silent as long as he can. as long as he can keep himself from doing it. this is a very unusual feeling for him, to have to just sit and kind of absorb things. to have to bring the press along with him on a plane. normally, he can block people out and handle things as he wants on his terms. can't do that as president. so i think this is just a challenge for him. >> especially, regarding stormy daniels with this interview, which has been two weeks coming. and the attorney for stormy daniels has been very public, you know, challenging in a very public way. >> beating him, yeah. >> that's got to be difficult for this president, for this white house. >> it's as we know an incredibly reactive white house, which we have seen again this morning when the president threatened to veto essentially because he was watching and hearing criticism of the spending bill coming from his political base. he looks at tv, and he responds to it. he hears what's being said and responds to it, so yes, he has been baited repeatedly by the lawyer for stormy daniels who is
essentially saying, you know, tweeting oud a picture of a cd last night, which he then said today contained proof of some kind of an affair. and he essentially taunted the president to keep going. the president on that one, he has become part of this arbitration case. so he is actually joining that fight in a pretty public way. it's dramatic for him to be suing somebody for damages in this way. while then sort of saying i know nothing about it and this isn't true. i think that the longer this goes on, i think the harder it is going to be for him to stay quiet. >> it was interesting just hearing jeff zeleny's reporting that sources of him are telling him at least in part, the timing, the way the bolton announcement was made, may have had something to do with the interview last night. you actually talked about that yesterday as a possibility. and i gotta say, when you said it, i kind of thought, there's no way that would actually -- >> you had surprise in your voice. >> i did. the idea that he would affect an
announcement based on an interview with somebody whose story has been out there, but this was the first time she was talking on television, yet, jeff is reporting what you intimated yesterday. >> don't think that was the only reason, but that was an added benefit. john bolton, remember, he was -- john bolton was public about this. he didn't expect to be offered the job when he was. he didn't hear anything from the white house for a while until suddenly getting this call the day before yesterday, please be in the oval office. this is a president who is pretty aware of what is taking place on television. it is hard to believe that he was not aware of this. >> the other question, that means sunday for the "60 minutes" interview. >> buckle up. yeah, i think that he could do something. he could just let it ride. i think that one is going to be really hard for him not to challenge. i found your interview with ms. mcdougal, it was sad. there was sort of a sadness about it. i think stormy daniels and michael avenatti in that case
have been much more in the president's face. and i could see him reacting more to that. >> yeah. the story well, it was also interesting, ms. mcdougal, this was a ten-month-long relationship in which she felt love toward him. she claims he felt love toward her as well. so you had a story earlier this month about the president's legal team shake-up. and i am reminded by what the president's response to that story was, saying the failing "new york times" purposely wrote a false story stating i'm unhappy with my legal team on the russian case. i'm going to add another lawyer. wrong, i'm very happy with my lawyers. went on to complain about you. of course, your reporting. this is just yet another example of you reporting something accurately. the president attacking it as fake news. in particular, naming john dowd. john dowd left yesterday. >> yes. >> there's been reporting on h.r. mcmaster, when he would go. >> "the washington post" story. >> fake news. >> accurate. it was accurate.
>> tillerson, which has been going on for quite some time. again, all of this stuff. at a certain point, you would think either the president or maybe the people around him already do, would realize that the more he calls stuff fake news that then is revealed by his own actions to be true days later, the less credible he becomes. >> he doesn't care. they're trapped in his unreality bubble. one of the things i think has come up repeatedly is, two things. we know that he likes to test the limits. and if he sees he can get away with something, he'll keep doing it. if he can keep talking publicly and intimating he's going to maybe shut down the mueller investigation, even without saying that, and the republican leadership in congress doesn't more vocally challenge him, he'll keep doing it. you know, in terms of his staff, his staff has gotten a lot of criticism for, we have all written about this one went out and lied. this one went out and lied. in some cases, people are lying. some in cases. people are told a lie by him,
and they don't know. that's not a reason to stay in a job, but it ultimately all goes back to him. this is how he does things. he clearly, when they yell fake news. it's very hard to take it seriously. he believes he has a base that is essentially always going to be with him and believe whatever he says about these stories. that's what he's banking on. it's really hard to get re-elected without expanding your base, but that's clearly if he runs for re-election, how he's going to do it. >> maggie haberman, thank you very much. >> coming up next, perspective from two republicans. a former trump aide and one of the president's critics. >> later, breaking news on guns. march in washington and other cities, action from the administration on bump stocks. ♪ ♪
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the president shortly after melania gave birth. karen mcdougal pointed out she's a republican and voted for the president even after hearing the "access hollywood" tape. >> i voted for the president, i voted for donald. why would i want to damage him? that's my party, republican party. that's my president. >> joining us, gop strategist rick wilson. also former trump lawyer, white house lawyer, james schultz. appreciate both of you being with us. rick, we talked about this last night on the program, that voters, americans elect a president, say that voters elect a president, not a pastor in chief. is there a red line here, you think? >> i think one of the things we're really going to test in the next few days is the fact that voters sort of internalize that donald trump was kind of a skeez bag in the campaign, but they didn't have it in their face. they didn't have these women telling their stories as directly as they are now with what looks like emergent evidence of these affairs and these engagements with these women. i think it's a little bit more of a test now, particularly for
his evangelical base because if you look at the situation holistically, stormy daniels and the new person that came out yesterday, they're not the last. they're the beginning of the beginning, not the beginning of the end. >> jim, is there a point, you think, at which the president's supporters will start to care about all this? we talked about it last night. a lot of evangelical voters and leaders have said, again, you know, we're not looking for a pastor in chief. >> yeah, i think this is somewhat old news. we walked through this time and time -- we walked through this during the campaign cycle. during the campaign cycle, these issues came up time and time again, including billy bush. that was in your face. as in your face as they come, and the voters didn't care. we have seen it develop. the news media has been hitting this for the last 30 days and his numbers continue to go up. where the evangelical base, i think time will tell, but what the evangelical base seems to care about are conservative judges like neil gorsuch and the circuit court judges on the
court. the president's put on the court, and also looking at the religious liberty issues and the suxsis in the administration on religious liberty. i think they're looking at those issues and him keeping his promises and less about the issues that took place years and years ago. and maybe there are more to come out in terms of allegations, but i'm not sure it's going to matter. >> rick, it's interesting hearing karen mcdougal who is a female republican who voted for the president, even knowing what she says she personally knew about the president and the relationship they had, and obviously, the "access hollywood" tape. so if it didn't matter to her in terms of who she voted for, i'm wondering just on women voters, republican women voters who voted for the president the first time, whether it will have some sort of cumulative effect or not. >> well, if you look at the polling right now, you have already seen republican women voters very much walking back from the party in a lot of the elections we had in the 2017 and 2018 window so far. republican women, particularly college educated republican women, are the president's
weakest supporters inside the republican cohort, and they have pretty much flipped over. so i think that the continued pressure of the stories, and again, you know, the point was made that we saw this during billy bush. we didn't,achytually. we heard it. i think if we're going to see the women giving their testimony and i think if we're going to see the women producing documentary evidence, it's a totally different situation for the president. i also think that there may be a moment, and i don't want to be too flippant about this, but it's kind of horrible to contemplate, but if there are naked pictures of the president, that's a news story that blows up the world. it's going to be a problem. and i also think that the legal overhead of this, the constant back and forth with his incompetent legal team with michael cohen and those folks, that just drags the story on and on and on. like a bleeding chest wound. his own lawyers can't get him out of the way of this problem. >> i think the other -- >> go ahead, jim. >> i think on the legal front, and on all the other crowd noise
going on day and day out in news cycle after news cycle, whether it's russia or stormy daniels or the substantive issues going on, tax reform, north korea, all the things that are happening at one time, i don't think there's one particular issue that's breaking through and really resonated with voters at this point, as it relates to -- i mean, the president's numbers are going up. >> rick, it is interesting, "wall street journal" reporting tonight about what the president's advisers are telling him about not to respond. maggie haberman was talking about that early this morning. cnn had that in some ways as well. does that advice make sense to you? i suppose it's kind of damned if you do, damned if you don't. for a sitting president to be trying to go after an adult film actress, how -- what would you advise him? >> particularly this president, i mean, look, i'm not an attorney, so i can't speak to that aspect of it, but it seems to me intuitively, don't drag the story out and make it even
more the centerpiece of everybody's attention. and so don't tweet at them. we know this president, though, has a very short attention span and a very poor sense of twitter discipline. so i think that at some point if the legal heat rises, that it's going to be difficult. i think sunday night is going to be a very uncomfortable evening in the trump household. if i was him, i would be the exact opposite end of mar-a-lago when the interview is airing from melania. >> we have to leave it there. rick, james, appreciate it. coming up, part of karen mcdougal's story, and her lawsuit includes a tabloid maneuver called catch and kill. buying the rights to a story to keep it from coming out and embarrassing someone else. ronan farrow first reported that's what happened last month. he reported that in the new yorker. ronan joibs us next. we'll hear more about what she said about her story. yes. thanks to the dedicated technicians at the american red cross... who worked with vmware...
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the case of former playboy model karen mcdougal put a spotlight on a tabloid practice known as catch and kill. that's what happened to her with ami, the parent company of the national enquirer, led by a longtime friend and associate of donald trump. ronan farrow was the first to get her notes that detailed her affair with donald trump. i'll speak with ronan in a moment. first, listen to what karen mcdougal told me last night. >> why do you think it was that it was after donald trump was the republican nominee that they came back? >> they wanted to squash the story. >> you're saying they wanted to protect donald trump. >> i'm assuming so, yeah. it was more about the way it was
presented. it was more about protecting me. it was more about, we don't want to tarnish your image. we want to keep your brand wholesome and whole. so i'm like, that's awesome. you know, that's great. so that's the way i perceived this contract. it was a win-win, like i said. >> have you ever heard the term at that point, catch can kill? >> no, i had not. >> do you know what catch and kill is now? >> i do now, yeah. >> ronan farrow joins me now. your piece at the new yorker really opened a lot of people's eyes to this whole idea of catch and kill and to karen mcdougal's story. she wouldn't go into detail with you at that time about her alleged relationship with trump or the deal she signed with ami. i wonder what you heard from her yesterday, if anything stuck out to you. >> so look. in both of these pieces of coverage of her story, we got the sort of gory details, if you will, of this affair. what you were smart and doing and what was the focus of my story about karen mcdougal was in turning the attention to the systems that this reveals. that was a key concern for karen mcdougal herself.
she said on the record in that story that i wrote, i want to warn other women about this practice. and about a set of contracts that she ultimately found onerous and exploitative. now she's talked to you. she has filed a complaint legally where she wants to sue ami, and she's going on the offensive on the basis of that argument. if you look at that complaint, anderson, there is a very clear articulation of a public policy argument, saying this is something that suppressed the marketplace of free ideas, that distorted an election, possibly. >> but, you know, karen mcdougal says in the deal with ami, she was aware they were not going to run her story. and in fact, she says she was glad that they were going to bury it. obviously, she was also glad to get money for that and what she said she was promised about kind of a new potential career as a writer. you know, as sort of an expert on aging and health. i guess that's the other side of this. that some people who want to
keep a damaging story from coming out or a story that may affect their family, but still want money, the catch and kill can work for them in that way. >> so look, there are lawyers, if you talk to gloria allred or a number of people who make a living off deals in this space who say, look, confidentiality and making sure stories don't come out can be to the benefit of individuals. what karen mcdougal reveals is this can have a heavy burden. she readily admits she was an adult, shed the agreement. she knew at the time it was likely ami was not going to run this story, but she also had to deal with changing circumstances since then. this is now the president of the united states. that is a much heavier burden to not talk about your president. >> it's also interesting, and you first reported this in the new yorker, she talked about it last night, sort of the way the system that it seems allegedly donald trump had in place with keith schiller to handle women
who he may have been involved with, whether it's in karen mcdougal's case, she would pay for her own flights, book her own hotel rooms and be reimbursed, she said, by president trump. oftentimes, keith schiller would be a go-between, picking people up or phone calls would be made to keith schiller in order to communicate with donald trump. >> i think karen's conversations with both of us reveal a very well oiled machine. and that's the secret meetings. it's the body guard. it's the in the moment concealment that you just described. and it's also this complicated legal system. in which a lot of actors, including ami, have dirt on the president. according to these allegations. and a pretty wide circle of ami sources that we talked to said this was a repeat practice. and that they had concerns, having seen this play out with other prominent people that they caught and killed for, that this gave ami leverage over the president. that was a term that was used a lot. >> which is particularly -- i
mean, if that is in fact the case, and ami has files of negative information about the man who is now the president of the united states, that is a comp -- potentially compromising situation. >> it's pretty unusual for a sitting president of the united states, and it gives a lot of influence and power to the people the public did not elect. the heart of the dispute that karen mcdougal is now involved in with ami is whether she can or can not speak. her representatives say she cannot speak because behind closed doors, ami is saying we'll drag you into arbitration. we'll see what plays out after the interview she gave with you. they weren't thrilled after the interview she gave to me. however, ami says she can speak. the one thing i want to point out, what is not in dispute is at the time of the election, she could not speak. their whole argument is premised on an amendment that was made after the election. so to the extent that this was indeed an attempt to shield the president, in that crucial
window, it appears to have succeeded. >> ronan farrow, appreciate the reporting. it's in the new yorker. people can look at ronan's original reporting. we got an answer to a question that rick wilson asked before the break. where will the president and first lady be when the stormy daniels interview airs sunday night on "60 minutes." the president will be back in washington. melania trump still will be in florida on a prescheduled week spring break with their son. >> there's breaking news the came brn analytica whistle blower speaking to cnn saying john bolton also has ties to the firm and one of the first clients to use improper facebook data on millions of american wher whereses. >> also, this sunday night, don't miss the series american dynasty, the kennedys. here's a preview. >> you know their name. you don't know their whole story. >> an historic state dinner brings mr. and mrs. kennedy and
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>> cambridge analytica's work for the john bolton super pac was the very beginning of using improperly obtained facebook data from tens of millions of americans, according to whistle blower chris wily. >> they were one of the first clients of cambridge analytica to buy into the psychographic messaging that was developed using the 50 million facebook profiles that were misappropriated. >> a spokesman for john bolton's super pac denies knowing of any alleged impropriety by cambridge analytica, and the contract stipulates that cambridge analytica would follow the law and obtain all necessary perments. that contract shows the bolton super pac in 2014 initially paid cambridge analytica more than $450,000 for behavioral microtargeting with psychographic messages. in other words, using data in an
entirely new way. >> you're not trying to change people's volts or win people's votes at that time. >> you change their perspective. we want to change their perspective and change how they see things. this is a really key element of what cambridge analytica does. >> they used facebook data to identify groups in arkansas like this so-called cluster, mostly male, 40 to 60 years old, that would be most influenced by imagery that depicts politicians getting jobs done. with subjects like economy and national security. according to wiley, that information from facebook was then used to create specific ads targeting those people whose personality traits they had just uncovered. like this 2014 ad, bolton's super pac created to support arkansas republican tom cotton in his race for senate. >> he'll project u.s. strength at home and abroad. >> one neighbor might get a different message from the second neighbor.
>> exactly. it's not even neighbors. they might be people in the same house get a different message. the messages would be crafted to pick at underlying mental vulnerabilities. >> cambridge analytica was the brain child of steve bannon and funded by republican conservative billionaires rebecca and robert mercer. since 2014, robert mercer has donated $5 million to john bolton's super pac, the super pac in turn has spent $1.2 million on contracts with cambridge analytica. >> and drew joins us from london. cambridge analytica is not just under fire in the united states, also in london where you are. >> tonight, the uk's information commissioner's office had a search warrant executed on cambridge analytica's headquarters. part of an investigation into whether the company misled the government here and to see if facebook data may have been illegally acquired and used. that's going on right now. >> the company already suspended their ceo. what's the reaction been to
that? >> late this afternoon, cambridge analytica sent a statement saying it is not this politically motivated unethical company. excuse me, anderson, that some have tried top portray. as for christopher wylie, the source of allegations against the company is not a whistleblower or a founder of the company. christopher wylie, the company says, was just a part-time contractor who left in july 2014. has no direct knowledge of our work or practs since that date. i can tell you, lawmakers here in london and the united states are demanding cambridge analytica explain exactly what its practices are and where all that personal data came from. >> drew, more on that ahead, no doubt. thanks very much. >> coming up tomorrow, the march for our lives in washington. organized by the students from stoneman douglas high school and others. we'll introduce you to another survivor of the sandy hook elementary shooting 5 1/2 years ago. followed by a special hour, the parkland diaries.
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sandy hook elementary in newtown, connecticut. by the time it was over, the shooter had fired at least 150 shots, taking the lives of 20 children, first graders and kindergartners as well as six adults. lauren's quick-thinking teacher hid all 15 of her students in a tiny bathroom off the classroom, saving all of their lives and her own. today lauren and that teacher are still friends. >> do you feel like you're closer to her, you know, because of everything? >> yeah. >> you really have a nice friendship? >> i mean an experience like this, it really does bring people together. >> reporter: the march for our lives will be bringing people together too. it was organized by the students of marjory stoneman douglas high school in parkland, florida. lauren will stand with them to say enough. >> i'm marching because i don't want this to happen to any other child, and it really shouldn't have happened. and that we really do need more safety. >> do you feel like you can make a difference even at age 12?
>> yeah. i mean it's amazing what the parkland students are doing. like they're already so ahead in this generation, and it's -- it's just at that age, it's libel incredible. they're making such a big difference. >> reporter: she doesn't talk much about the shooting at her school, but she hasn't forgot it, nor has she forgot rn the many friends she lost that day, one who was killed, daniel barden, had given her this heart necklace. she wears it some days and thinks of him. all these years later, her father still recalls gathering with other families at the firehouse, imagining the worst. >> when i look back, that was the -- the families of the 20, or the 26 really, you know. those adults were lost that day too. >> reporter: lauren's parents and her brother, dalton, will be marching alongside her. dalton was in the fourth grade and survived the sandy hook shooting too. when you saw what happened in parkland, what did you think?
>> i mean there have been so many. i mean it's almost desensitizing to just see like one every so often. >> so it's time to change? >> 100% yes. >> we can make a difference. we can speak out. this makes us feel like we're doing something when we do go out and we march and we do something together as a family. >> our kids, sadly, you know, were not old enough to speak out, and we as parents -- i won't say we failed them, but we were too polite. these parkland kids, they will not be silenced. they will not be muzzled. >> reporter: nor will his own daughter who still has hope that gun laws will change in her lifetime. do you think guns are just too easy to get in this country? >> yes, definitely. >> would you want your teachers to be armed? >> of course not. like that's just a horrible idea. i mean any child to be able to pick up a gun and they could shoot it thinking it might be some sort of toy. >> reporter: what's really great, anderson, is to see how well lauren is doing.
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