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You can have a private interview much like weve done through the intelligence committee through the last year he can be subpoenaed. theres many avenues that can be attempted. >> what does it say about your ability to function as a co equal branch of government providing oversight if the president is able to without facing any sanction publicly intimidate witnesses away fr testifying before you? >> i think its a gross abuse of power and at some point the president is going to pay for that. we hav...

Goes down. im telling you watch those numbers because at some point its too much pain for the republicans, many of a whom face tough reelections. >> theres a few people like susan collins, cory gardner who is going to be looking at their vote on knees two votes. radically changing asylum and wall money. then the clean cr. just reopen the government. what do you think well see? >> mitch mcconnell says he wasnt going to put show bills on the floor of the senate. thats exactly what hes doing becaus...

Endless war. we are getting to the point where people will be sent to afghanistan very soon who werent even alive in 2001. now what you dont do is notify your pentagon by tweet that youre going to be pulling out. but there is no question that we need to bring a close to that engagement. and all of our -- >> wait, let me just stop you there, because ive heard that for most of my adult life. what does that mean concretely? >> i think concretely it means engaging with the parties on the ground, mak...

Tampering with a witness a crime, to your mind? >> absolutely its a crime. thats an attempt to silence a witness and thats what the presidents doing because he does not want his dirty laundry aired. >> if youre saying intimidating a witness, tampering with a witness a crime, the president has committed that crime in full view. its not like weve got leaked recordings. hes been doing it in public and hes doing obstruction right in front of everyone? >> i think that will become clearer after we spe...

A vote. we need a chance for tuse see whos voting to reopen the government and whos not. and we can take our course of action based on that. i think theres a couple things at play. first, thats who was holding things at that point in time. but the seconds is these kinds of symbolic gestures are really meaningful. we have to do more than sit around and wait for him to finally dewhen he wants to do something. >> and you passed in the house i think nine different time, nine different bills to reope...

And i think the goal of the democratic congress is to try and restore a lot of that. i dont think that means we have to follow all the traditions and keep with the same kind of sense of oh, wait your turn, stand in line, be quiet, etc. because thats not going to happen with this class. i dont think theres a playback at this point. with everything going on government, trump, the shutdown. this is unheard of and we have to react accordingly. >> today news that mulvaneys asking agencies what would ...

Going to be based on his politics. we need to be ready to come with a different kind of vocabulary that will answer that question that hand-wringing democrats keep asking, how are we going to fit our values on a bumper sticker. i think we can do it. i think its freedom, democracy, and security, and im eager to share that message with the country. >> youre in washington for your launch today. this is a question i think is the most important question for every democratic candidate in the field. wh...

Legislation if you got elected president with a democratic house and democrat senate? >> well, weve got to make fundamental repairs to our democracy. that means legislation to secure access to the vote and a package that could also include some profound structural reforms. the electoral college is at this point indefensible, and there are a lot of other things happening in our political structure that make it so difficult to deal with any of the other issues from climate to health care, to econo...

>> what does it say about your ability to function as a co equal branch of government providing oversight if the president is able to without facing any sanction publicly intimidate witnesses away testifying before you? >> i think its a gross abuse of power and at some point the president is going to pay for that. we have to build a case but i see the extent to which he has done things to michael cohen beyond the tweets are things that were going toing have to explore. >> theres also the possibi...

Aired. >> if youre saying intimidating a witness, tampering with a witness a crime, the president has committed that crime in full view. its not like weve got leaked recordings. hes been doing it in public and hes doing obstruction right in front of everyone? >> i think that will become clearer after we speak with michael cohen and thats going to be important to both mr. c can ummings and schiff as chairs of those two committees. >> i guess -- youre not chair so this is something the chair is pr...