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>> laura: two years ago, the experts were thinking you would destroy nato. what do you say to them? >> those were the people -- i know them, ive read them. nato was going down. if you look at the money coming into nato for the last 15 years it was just like an escalator down. now it is like a rocket ship up. the secretary has been trumps biggest fan. without donald trumpon maybe the would be no nato. wevee gotten over $100 billion from other countries where they are starting to pay. we weree get...

>> i want there to be laws that go after the people that commit the crimes with the guns and go after the people that run those guns. that is the core problem that we have here flt lo. look at the numbers. 1% got denied. people are shocked by that. law-abiding scitizens are the ones that want a background check. the last thing you want to do is go get a gun. >> but i agree with that. 80,000 did lion their background checks. we are reaching some points of consensus here. here is the stibcking poi...