presidentjose ramos horta, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me. it is a great pleasure to have you in the studio. i think it s fair to say you ve given most of your life to the struggle for freedom in timor leste, east timor, as we used to know it, and you have served as its president, not just once, but twice. you decided to come back in 2022 to seek the presidency again. was that a tough decision, to come back? yes. on a personal basis, yes. it was not in my plan, but then mr xanana gusmao, now prime minister, whom i deeply respect, he asked me to run again. ..to put timor leste back on the map of the world, because it was neglected, forgotten for a few years, because we ve been living in peace and tranquillity, so we did not constitute news. but at the same time, with so many conflicts in the world, we were running the risk of being forgotten. so. and then our asean accession. so i was asked to serve, to be the visible face of the campaign for our asean accession.
presidentjose ramos horta, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me. it is a great pleasure to have you in the studio. i think it s fair to say you ve given most of your life to the struggle for freedom in timor leste, east timor, as we used to know it, and you have served as its president, not just once, but twice. you decided to come back in 2022 to seek the presidency again. was that a tough decision, to come back? yes. on a personal basis, yes. it was not in my plan, but then mr xanana gusmao, now prime minister, whom i deeply respect, he asked me to run again. ..to put timor leste back on the map of the world, because it was neglected, forgotten for a few years, because we ve been living in peace and tranquillity, so we did not constitute news. but at the same time, with so many conflicts in the world, we were running the risk of being forgotten. so. and then our asean accession. so i was asked to serve, to be the visible face of the campaign for our asean accession.
learn from his extraordinary life? presidentjose ramos horta, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me. it is a great pleasure to have you in the studio. i think it s fair to say you ve given most of your life to the struggle for freedom in timor leste, east timor, as we used to know it, and you have served as its president, notjust once, but twice. you decided to come back in 2022 to seek the presidency again. was that a tough decision, to come back? yes. on a personal basis, yes. it was not in my plan, but then mr xanana gusmao, now prime minister, whom i deeply respect, he asked me to run again. ..to put timor leste back on the map of the world, because it was neglected, forgotten for a few years, because we ve been living in peace and tranquillity, so we did not constitute news. but at the same time, with so many conflicts in the world, we were running the risk of being forgotten. so. and then our asean accession. so i was asked to serve, to be the visible face of the
are there lessons for the world to learn from his extraordinary life? presidentjose ramos horta, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me. it is a great pleasure to have you in the studio. i think it s fair to say you ve given most of your life to the struggle for freedom in timor leste, east timor, as we used to know it, and you have served as its president, not just once, but twice. you decided to come back in 2022 to seek the presidency again. was that a tough decision, to come back? yes. on a personal basis, yes. it was not in my plan, but then mr xanana gusmao, now prime minister, whom i deeply respect, he asked me to run again. ..to put timor leste back on the map of the world, because it was neglected, forgotten for a few years, because we ve been living in peace and tranquillity, so we did not constitute news. but at the same time, with so many conflicts in the world, we were running the risk of being forgotten. so. and then our asean accession. so i was asked to
that any kremlin which is to not consider that any population movement is manipulation coming from outside, because manipulation coming from outside, because the deep conviction is that there because the deep conviction is that there is because the deep conviction is that there is no because the deep conviction is that there is no public opinion or no free there is no public opinion or no free people. we are entitled as an old democracy to believe the opposite. and so, i will not describe opposite. and so, i will not describe what has happened, but we mustn t describe what has happened, but we mustn t lapse into that rather summary mustn t lapse into that rather summary explanation, however, georgia summary explanation, however, georgia today is affected by morrison movements and we saw images these past morrison movements and we saw images these past few days worrisome movements, of a young woman carrying the european movements, of a young woman carryi