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official who was saying last week was a week for all these controversial impositions of starmer allies, get them out the way and haveit allies, get them out the way and have it over in the first full week of the campaign.— of the campaign. 0k, we will eventually — of the campaign. 0k, we will eventually show _ of the campaign. 0k, we will eventually show that - of the campaign. 0k, we will eventually show that bus - of the campaign. 0k, we will i eventually show that bus when of the campaign. 0k, we will - eventually show that bus when we get the red light at the green light even the so to speak, but when it comes to the conservative party, rishi sunak is talking about these pledges to give 30 towns across the uk £20 million if re—elected. what do we read into that? i uk £20 million if re-elected. what do we read into that?— uk £20 million if re-elected. what do we read into that? i find the way the oli do we read into that? i find the way the policy side _ do we read into that? i find the way the policy side of _ do we read into that? i find the way the policy side of the _ do we read into that? i find the way the policy side of the campaign - do we read into that? i find the way the policy side of the campaign has| the policy side of the campaign has developed so far are quite interesting because you have a conservative party which has had a year—and—a—half for rishi sunak in government which has the weight of existing government policy behind it yes talking about behind that bit also new policies, shiny new things that we have not heard about before this week, national service, things like driving licence points and
donors nor politicians have taken this opportunity to turn their back on him. >> that is right. they had a chance to be appalled by his behavior and they got used to it. and they like what they see on the policy side. he is promising them the right things. he is promising he is on their side. he is a pro-business candidate. he is willing to trade democracy. >> we appreciate it, david a. graham, and susan glasser , co- author of the book "trump the divider in the white house 2017 through 2021." justice samuel alito story about an insurrectionist flag seen flying outside his home is traveling on front of that but he will not recuse himself from a pair of january 6th related cases, and republicans are already urging the court to step in on donald trump's behalf.
is becoming inseparable from his legal cases. first of all, in many ways, it's a campaign not just to win at the white house but to stay out of jail. but he's made the theme of being a victim and getting retribution against those who victimized him, and he says my extension victimized all my supporters, the centerpiece of his campaign. that's why he's there. it is indistinguishable from his campaign. it's not much of an agenda he's outlining -- >> not on a policy side. but the big question will be, it may work in the primary, but not in the general. jonathan carl, thank you, great reporting from the investigative team and you, and a great book that covers a lot about trump. president biden delivered a speech today commemorating the anniversary of a mass shooting by white supremacist at mother emanuel church in charleston, south carolina. in a pretty bold comparison, the president likened trump's election gia denialism to the end of the civil war when the former confederate states who
ways, or two sections. it's always policy and politics. on the policy side, trump now has a record, which is frankly easy to run against. from a conservative standpoint, a republican standpoint, in a primary, he doesn't have a record of achievement. he did not balance the budget. he did not reduce the size of government. he increased the size of the deficit with china. the border is no better than it was before. and he lost $3 million because you completely mishandled the covid crisis. so, he doesn't have a record of success. chris christie seems to be the only one running against donald trump. everyone else wants to play his defense lawyer. but then look at the politics of it! donald trump hasn't won anything since 2016. he's lost the house. he lost the senate, i would say, twice. willfully. i think that 2022 election was a referendum on trump, even though he wasn't on the ballot. it was about him, because the senate candidates we're all his handpicked. and he lost the white house. , oh, that's three for three
are focused on the policy side, always happen, but you are politically savvy guy too. what do you attribute that to? >> i think that there are two things going on. one is, we have just been through a period of economic trauma, the covid crisis and its aftermath was unlike anything that this country has lived through in 100 years. we are in a period of transition, it's going to take some time. the second thing is, the economic thing zaidi that people feel has been years and decades in the making as well, and so people, naturally, are hesitant to except when they see progress on the horizon. they want to know, is that progress going to continue? i think that's a natural process. we, economists, say that this data operates with the leg. you start to see the economic data improving. you start to see a confidence improving, we're starting to see that over the course of the last couple months. that should translate into people sentiments on the economy as well.
the economic data supports that argument, of course. including the inflation numbers going down, lowest in two years. in, polls almost half of them don't feel like the economy is going well. i know that you're focused on the policy side, always have been, but you are politically savvy guy as well. what do you attribute that to? >> i think there's two things going on. number one is that we've just been through a period of economic trauma, the covid crisis and aftermath was unlike everything that this country has lived through. we are in a period of transition. it is going to take some time. the second thing is that the economic anxiety of people has been years and decades in the making as well. people that naturally are hesitant to accept when they see progress on the horizon, they want to know if that progress is going to continue. i think it's a natural process and we economists say that this
first on the policy side of reduce taxes to its lowest level. i just talked to you about that. i have reduced crime to historic levels. last year we were at a 19 per capita low. homicides. this year 37% below that number. that's something that is plaguing all of urban america. as a republican candidate you have got to be able to attract urban voters. i have done that in miami-dade county. you have to have the personality to build relationships not only across the aisle. i was elected by 850% and ree -- 85%. you have to build relationships with foreign leaders and create credibility for the united states and get things done to strengthen our country. >> bret: some statistics say you are a little green and hugh hewitt's show and he asked you about the uyghur. you said what is a uyghur. chinese minority that is obviously in the news. do you feel like you are up to speed on foreign policy issues? >> you know, i'm the mayor of an
are -- donald trump only got to 47% last time. it might be hard for him in this environment to get there again. there are enough doubts about biden and there's enough stability to the basic partisan divide that this is not out of reach for either side again in 2024, despite everything that has happened to him since the 2020 election. >> which i think people need have a better grasp on to some degree. a lot of assumptions what a general or rematch would look like. jessica, before i let you go, his top -- trump's top challenger, ron desantis, who had a rough couple of weeks, maybe even months to some degree, released his economic plan yesterday. and what was fascinating to me is besides the fact he wouldn't take questions on anything else but the economic plan at his press conference great way to invite questions on everything else is there were some interesting elements in the plan what he's done on student loans, his focus on crypto and it was interesting to me from a policy side of things. but i can't fathom it breaks through in this moment. is that fair or am i not understanding the dynamic? >> yeah. i would agree.
and forth. desantis is saying that he can serve for two terms if he is elected and trump had an answer for that yesterday with the back and forth. >> you have to be mission-focused, and you cannot be distracted with any of this. it is going to require a daily grind for not just one term, but i believe two full presidential terms. >> every time he says eight year, i wince, because if it is going to take eight years to turn this around, you don't want him, you don't want him as the president. >> why didn't he do it the first four years. >> why didn't he do it the first four years, and that is the heart that desantis is saying going after trump. look, the um artrump years may e as great as you remember it. he is going after the policy side, and accusing him as soft
what opportunities they feel like theft both on the policy side of things, but also on the political side of things. >> another example of him pursuing bipartisanship with something of a positive outcome. phil mattingly, thanks very much. boris? the campaign trail is heating up as ron desantis heads to another key state. we'll show you what he told voters in south carolina. the ground in arizona is so dry, authorities are taking drastic measures to protect their water supply. plus political trials, finding a brand-new breast cancer drug is decreasing the risk of recurrence. some promising results to share with you. snoring, so you d don't have to. so, no more nudging your partner.. or sleeping on the other side... of the house. because the tempur-ergo smart base actutually detects snoring...