last issue that most republicans in the congress can agree on. they are all for tax cuts, that's part of what it is to be a republican i think. is there anyway that this this doesn't pass? >> a very narrow majority in the senate, there are benefits in this tax code now that would have to be stricken to make room for the cuts, so you don't have a big blowout in terms of the budget and so they will be fiercely supported and defended by those affected. it won't be easy, not with a narrow majority of the kind that we have now among republicans. democrats by large do not favor tax cuts, particularly tax cuts they will inevitably say benefit the rich. it's not that easy sl for this reason. for one thing, every time you pass tax cuts and you are the president tonight say they're going to increase the number of people in the zero bracket, you
have fewer and fewer people actually playing texas. that is fewer and fewer people who stand to gain when taxes are cut because it is simply a mathematical truism that when you taught, cut taxes, the people who benefited the people who pay taxes. as the population shrinks, the constituency forced tax cuts rings with it. this is not such an easy deal. i would say, however, prevent momentum is provided by a certain republican desperation to get something done because they failed so spectacularly on obamacare repeal. this is the other big-ticket legislative item and i think there's a widespread feeling in the republican caucus in both houses that they need to get this done. >> tucker: so the debate among republicans i think outside of the congress is, does this make good on the president's promises to his core constituency, the american middle class, during the campaign? will this, from what you can tell so far, benefit that group, middle-class americans? >> there are two ways to look at tax cut benefits, tucker.
there's the indirect kind of benefit where you pay a certain amount taxes this year and because the new law comes along, your taxes will be reduced by x amount. that's one way you benefit. the principal purpose of a large tax cut of this kind, especially where you are also cutting the corporate rate, is not just to put money in the pockets of consumers to spend it. it is to encourage investment and growth in the economy, which benefits everybody. i think it's fair to say that the principal benefits, the major benefits, the most important benefit in economic terms of a big stack cut is to stimulate the economy. people benefit indirectly, that is to say, jobs are created, this competition for hiring. wages go up. and there is a possibility of a rising tide that does lift all boats. but when you are selling at tax cut, as you can tell by what the president was saying tonight, you often have to focus on the narrower question of how much
they pay social security, state and local taxes and so on. everybody has taxes they would like to see cut. i think the constituency for it is still there. the constituency for the kind of tax cuts the president is selling, or you are reducing the rates, where you can point to people and say look at this guy, he's got -- he's going to get millions and benefits. that's because he pay so much. we live in a country, after all, or 10% of the population, the richer 10%, pay about 70% of the taxes. it figures that when taxes are cut, they will benefit the most, because they pay the most. that is not a particularly good selling point to an ordinary taxpayer. >> tucker: but that is math. brit hume, thank you. >> you bet. >> tucker: one of the most famous economist in the world, worked in a break in administration during the last great overhaul of the tax code. president trump just tweeted about him saying "art just said he doesn't know how a democrat could vote against the big tax cut reform bill and live with
it will be a great thing for the u.s. >> tucker: judging by the equities market corporations are making a lot of money. the problem is not corporate profit and you still have close to 100 million americans unemployed and the stagnant wages. why, if that hasn't worked previously, when it work now? >> the corporations that have lots of cash on hand and all that don't find it available -- of valuable to invest in the future. they invest overseas, but once you bring that rate down to below -- we are number one highest tax rate. corporate tax rate. that means all these other countries are a tax haven for american companies and that's why there is so much money abroad. this money will come back, they will create jobs here and hopefully if we get it low enough we can become for tax payment and their jobs will come here. it will be great, just the way it should be, just the way we did it in 1986, the president cut the highest rate from 46% to 34%. that really rocket at the end of
in the oecd, of all the major countries, we were the only country that had global taxation. we have the highest tax rate and just for the record, just so you know, in the year 2000, the u.s. was seventh highest out of the countries in the oecd and i was the very highest. every country in the oecd cut their corporate tax rate dramatically in the last 17 years except the u.s. and of course hungry, which raised their tax rate from 18% to 19%. all of them lowered it to get a more competitive. we are just keeping up with the joneses. >> tucker: really quickly, when i was born this country was two-thirds middle-class, a middle-class country. two years ago at the middle-class became a minority in this country, that seems like the central problem. you sincerely think that this tax plan would help change that? >> yes. this tax plan will help change this. one of the things about the corporate taxes as it stands now in the u.s. is that a lot of
companies shelter their income, they choose different corporate tax -- if they do all of this other stuff that is not productive trying to get around taxes. when we lower that tax rate they won't shelter their income as much anymore. there will be far less tax evasion, they won't choose these forms, companies will come back and you will see tax revenues rise dramatically over the next ten years. i'm estimating that this will raise somewhere in the neighborhood of $1.3 trillion net, which will allow us to do all sorts of other things for the rest of the country, especially the middle class. >> tucker: i hope that's true. i'm rooting for that. i have to say. thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: great to see you. is this the end of the weinstein company? new information on today's board meeting, apparently harvey weinstein was there. details next. ♪ ♪ stare with me into the abyss
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took her to dinner and then afterward suggested he go to his hotel room. she claims that she very firmly denied this offer. stella still allegedly pursue ts relationship. after three months she claims she had to get her lawyer to contact the weinstein company and ask them to have him stop. >> tucker: that's a bad sign when a lawyer gets involved. with the claim count on the story of our? you have any sense of how many women have come forward? >> it has really gotten out of control at this point but we do know for sure at this point that the number of women making allegations of assault and/or harassment is over 50 right now. >> tucker: over 50. does each one represent a legal action do you think? >> it dispense, it depends on the state. in new york there are currently probes into two allegations of sexual assault against mr. weinstein. one of the women who shared their stories in the new yorker and another woman whose identity we do not know. >> tucker: those are criminal probes by the state?
>> yes. >> tucker: so harvey weinstein is, or is no longer affiliated with this company? >> this is where it's tricky. after all this talk of him really wanting to go in and fight for his position, we learned that he resigned, but he does stop at 23% stake in the company. it remains to be seen what's going to happen. many directors and actors have been very firm about the fact they have no desire to work with him so if the company is going to be bought, he would have to be bought out by whoever decides to come in because anything that will profit him. it >> tucker: when this broke, lisa bloom was center stage representing harvey weinstein and basically making assurances that everything is fine, it's cool. when it got out of control she fled the scene. has she reemerged? have you seen her recently, or is she in hiding? >> she actually was with black china, one of her former clients last night, rob kardashian's estranged girlfriends. but she has sort of return to her typical thing and try to distance herself from this is much as possible, which is what
every lawyer has done. if the company itself is about a spokesperson. you have to actually call the office to speak to someone. >> tucker: in contrast i think with most lawyers, lisa bloom has been accused of an effect, bribery by rose mccowen, who was that she offered her some huge number, $6 million to change her story, any movement on that story? >> rose mccowen is not the other one, there were also some yesterday, one of the clubs were an alleged assault took place was called by lawyers for weinstein and asked if he could go on the record and say this it never happened. it seems this might be a new story coming to light were multiple people were contacted about keeping quiet or denying claims that were being made by victims. >> tucker: if you think harvey weinstein was sleazy, wait till you meet his lawyers. they are really unbelievable. are there potential criminal penalties attached to that? are you allowed to encourage people to change their story in exchange for money? >> it depends. it would happen to someone who actually excepted ipad. is all developing and it sort of
unbelievable which each new thing we learn, so there's a vey real sort of feeling where this might get to the point where someone who is representing weinstein will get charged. >> tucker: that would not surprise me at all. thanks for that. when news report says the fbi has uncovered evidence of a major russian bribery effort just before the obama administration's approval of a deal back in 2010 that gave russia control over large amounts of american uranium. why would the obama administration gave russia control of the document great question. to answer that and others, with invited chief national correspondent ed henry, who has the very latest. >> good to see you. i major exclusive from the newspaper because it's raising new questions about just what kind of relationship the obama's and the clintons had with russia amid all these other investigations going on right now here in washington about the trump campaign and alleged russian collusion. the exclusive goes back, as you
say, to 2010 when the obama administration approved the controversial celtic of moscow control of a majority -- a big chunk of american uranium. at what they have in this report is that the f fbi was actually investigating in 2009, 2010 the fact that money was pouring into the u.s. for motion sources, russian nuclear industry officials, kickbacks, all kinds of money, problems, and they say in this report "federal agents obtained an eyewitness account backed by documents indicating russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the u.s. designed to benefit former president bill clinton's charitable foundation during the time secretary of state secretary of state hillary clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to moscow." she was running the state department at the time. a panel with him at the apartment deciding this. the story goes on to say the obama administration and the clintons defended their actions at the time insisting there was
no evidence that any russians or donors engaged in wrongdoing and there was no national security reason for any member of the committee to oppose this uranium deal. fbi energy department and court documents reviewed by the hill newspaper showed the fbi in fact had gathered substantial evidence well before the committee's decision that the main russian overseeing vladimir putin's nuclear expansion inside the u.s. was engaged in wrongdoing starting in 2009. what's interesting is that the justice department began investigating this 2009-2010, investigated it for four years but obviously we've never seen anyone charge from all of this and which justice department was investigating this? the obama justice department investigating obama officials like hillary clinton. remember, peter schweitzer, dominic raised some of these questions in the last campaign, then-candidate donald trump jumped on it, if you will. at the time, a spokesman for
hillary clinton's campaign was saying she was not actively engaged on this panel, was not involved in the decision involving uranium, but obviously these questions were raised and it was interesting that the fbi maybe had evidence -- coke >> tucker: ed henry, he was joining us from the white house, unfortunately lost the connection. that's an amazing story. they always accuse you of what they're doing themselves. there's even more news about hillary clinton summit, a search of anthony's laptop has uncovered new files from home without the details coming up. because i am cured with harvoni. harvoni is a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of chronic hepatitis c. it's been prescribed to more than a quarter million people. and is proven to cure up to 99% of patients who have had no prior treatment with 12 weeks.
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also in kids chewables. >> tucker: looks like carma congressman anthony weiner will be headed to prison soon, but the saga continues. the fbi now says it has found huma abedin's files on his computer and will release all of them by the end of the year. the president of judicial watch, his lawsuit against the state department caused those documents to come to light and he joins us tonight to explain what they mean. thanks for joining us. >> to mike sorry to superimpose against a picture of anthony weiner's chest. what's the significance of these documents? >> they are new documents, we don't know what's in them yet. huma abedin had an email account on hillary clinton server. the emails from hillary clinton server. they were on anthony weiner's laptop. the fbi picked them up last year, the end of last year, highlighting the fact that they found this information.
it turns out they had nearly 3,000 of them, government records on the laptop. we will get access to them by the end of the year. >> tucker: they were government records? >> they were, they acknowledged that. based on the other abedin emails that we have which involved classified information, hillary clinton emails that we hadn't seen before that she didn't turn over and try to delete. i suspect there will be classified material among these new records. this is another example of top government officials like huma abedin and hillary clinton having classified materials and places they weren't allowed to, which are grab potomac violations of criminal law despite mr. comey's appendage to the contrary. >> tucker: moreover, we spent the last year talk about russian hacking, clearly it's not safe to keep government data on a private computer. the larger question was why are we learning about this now? >> it took them forever to get them to us. >> tucker: i thought we had a
freedom of information that requires the government -- >> the only reason we are getting this information is we are in court and we demanded access to the information because we wanted abedin's emails from the secret account. the fbi found these records last year, they took forever to turn them over to the state department, the state department got them last june. >> tucker: do they belong to the fbi were the american people? >> the fbi found them they found that they were state department records, they turned them over to the state department many months ago and now we are finally learning the analysis has been done because there are records we won't get because they may be actual personal records of miss abedin or weiner or whatever. >> tucker: it seems like i have the same story all the time, the government has a legal requirement to turnover nonclassified documents when citizens requested, when journalist requested. and they don't, again and again. how do they get around that? >> they ignore it and you just
have to push in the courts four. this comment to me, is an opportunity for president trump to kind of initiate a transparency revolution by getting this information out as quickly as possible. we know the fbi went and found the emails that mrs. clinton tried to delete and they found some of them or recovered them in the state department has them. we don't know when we will get those. at the current schedule, the state department wants to release all of mrs. clinton's emails to us, but they still haven't had a release at a rate that would make them -- at a rate that would allow us to finally get them all in the year 2020. >> tucker: so there are still thousands of documents being withheld from the kennedy assassination, or 50 years ago, the cia is now -- we are doing a story on this tomorrow, that they need to hold them for another 25 years? if people knew the amount of information that belongs to them, being held by bureaucrats and officials, they would freak out. great to see you. >> thank you. >> tucker: doing the lord's work. it's been 49 weeks and counting
since the 2016 election, the hunt is still on for proof of russian meddling. did putin get trump elected? we still don't know. we did recently speak to progressive analyst glenn greenwald, who was at the is replacing good reporting with inaccurate scandal mongering. watch this. >> just to get to the facts of this story, it is conclusively shown that the story about the 21 voting systems being hacked is untrue, correct? >> it's false in two ways, one is that several of the states included in the list, such as wisconsin, california, and texas, said that the websites that the homeland security department cited had nothing to do with voting systems, they are entirely unrelated. and it's false in a second way, which is a lot of the stories, most of them said that russia try to hack into the voting systems when in fact even homeland security, it can only show that what they did was scan those computer systems, which is basically casing something to say for vulnerabilities and made
no attempt to actually hack into them. it was false on various levels. >> tucker: you when i don't agree on a lot of issues but i think we share the same concern about the story, american journalists are being manipulated for whatever reason by the intelligence community in the united states, and i'm wondering why after years of having this happen to american journalists, they are allowing this to happen again. >> that's the thing i would refrain that a little bit. i don't actually think so much that journalists are the victims in the sense of that formulation of the. how much they are being manipulated. at best we can say is they are willingly and eagerly being manipulated. what you see is over and over they publish really inflammatory stories that turn out to be totally false and what happens in most cases? nothing. they get enormous benefits when they publish it recklessly. they get applause on social media from their peers, they get zillions of retweets, huge
amounts of traffic, they end up on tv. they get applauded across the spectrum because people are so giddy and eager to hear more about this russia and from story and one their stories get completely debunked it just kind of -- everybody agrees to ignore it and everyone moves on and they pay no price. at the same time, they are feeling and pleasing their sources by publishing the sources that the sources want them to publish. there's huge amounts of career benefits and reputational benefits and very little cost when they publish stories that end up being debunked because the narrative they are serving as a popular one, at least within their peer circles. >> tucker: that is so dishonest. i think all of us and journalism have gotten things wrong, i've i certainly have. if you feel bad about it, you really do and there's a consequence. do you really think there's that level of dishonesty in the american press? >> i think what it is more than dishonesty is a really warped incentive scheme bolstered by this very severe groupthink that social media is fostering in
ways that we don't yet fully understand. most journalists these days are in congressional committees or at zoning board meetings or using -- they're sitting on twitter talking to one another and this produces this extreme groupthink where these orthodoxies arrive in deviating from them or questioning them or challenging, believe me, results in all kinds of recrimination and scorn. embracing them produces a sort of in group mentality where you are rewarded, and i think a lot of it is about that kind of behavior. >> tucker: that his ability. if you live in a foreign country, i'm not on social media, maybe we have a little bit of distance from this, where do you think the story is going? what's the next incarnation of the? >> the odd part about it, and about the inpatients that journalists have in trying to just jump to the finish line is that there are numerous investigations underway in the city, including by credible investigators, including senator burr and warner and the
senate intelligence committee, which most people seem to trust and certainly robert mueller, and everyone is really eager to lavish with praise. we are going to find out presumably one way or the other soon enough. one thing that is so odd to me is that this is been going on now for a year, this accusation that the trump administration of the trump campaign colluded with the russians to hack the dnc and john podesta's email and we know that there are huge number of people inside the government who are willing to leak, even at the expense of committing crimes in order to undermine trump and there have been no leaks so far showing any evidence of that kind of collusion leading one to wonder why that is. i hope that everybody is willing to wait until the actual investigation reveals finally the real answers. but it doesn't seem that will be the case. >> tucker: 's bravery is when you disagree in public with your peers. by that definition you are a very brave man. thanks for joining us tonight. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me.
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pharmaceutical investigations for the dea, it is now president of a former compliance group. thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me come up later to be with you tonight. >> tucker: those numbers, they are almost hard to believe, over 60,000 americans dead in one year of drug o.d. which of the congress be doing? >> they shouldn't be enacting laws that take the authority away from the drug enforcement administration, they should be enacting laws that provide resources to law enforcement to dismantle the target and dismantle organizations, criminal organizations that are distributing these prescription drugs throughout the country. >> tucker: when you were working for the dea and seeing this crisis unfold in real time, did it surprise you that policymakers see mostly unaware of it, or not panicked by it, not upset? >> it did. it surprised me quite a bit.
politicians didn't get law enforcement efforts until this problem was well down the road. it became what is now known as an epidemic. it didn't happen overnight, there were stories written every day, folks like yourself that are articulating the issues out there that are happening in the country as it pertains to the misuse and abuse of prescription drugs. it did surprise me. >> tucker: it would read the stories or you would hear stories about pill mills, particularly in the state of florida, kentucky, or people could just walk in and walk out with a script for an addictive opioid painkiller. i've never understood, why weren't those places shut down immediately, obviously the dea knew about them. >> many of them were shut down and people were prosecuted and went to jail that owned and operated those what you referred to as pill mills, which is
appropriate. this problem started before pill mills. they were a reaction to when we shut down internet pharmacies. there wasn't any law at the time that prevented a person from taking a credit card and going online and googling hydrocodone without a prescription and hundreds of websites with pop up and they can order vicodin or hydrocodone online, the brand name for that is vicodin. that would be shipped to their house and the person who ordered the drugs wouldn't have to leave the house. the legislation was passed and that mandated at least one face-to-face doctor-patient visit before a prescription for a controlled substance could be issued and that was a case of where the technology got ahead of the law and subsequently the logic catch up and when the internet pharmacies domestically put out of business the pain management clinics popped up because the pill mills had a doctor on site.
there would be lines out the door. >> tucker: would have never understood is the online pharmacies in the pill mills don't manufacture these drugs, they are manufactured by pharma companies. didn't they notice that there drugs were being sold illicitly? >> of course they did. it manufacturers as well as the distributors they know, every medication that they either manufacture or distribute, whose shelf it ends up on at the end of the day. of course they knew where their pills ended up and they know if that town or geographic region can support the amount of pills that are being distributed to those areas. that being said, i want your viewers to understand something else about this problem, very comprehensive and complex. there are practitioners and or pharmacists. they have a corresponding responsibility to ensure that every prescription they write for practitioners, and phil for pharmacists, are written for legitimate medical purpose. if they are not written for
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>> tucker: there's at least one great mystery at the heart of the harvey weinstein scandal, why did so many vocally liberals supposedly pro-women individuals assertively cover for his behavior? lisa blount's example a, she made a career as a champion of women who faced sexism and sexual assault. she is now of offering to bribe one of weinstein's accusers, someone who accused him of rape. how did that happen? tammy bruce is a radio show host and she joins us to unravel this. what is this about? >> this is something that we've been hearing about -- rose mccowan is clearly an actress and one of the heroes of the story. she is alleging that during this, just as before "the new york times" profile expose on mr. weinstein was going to be released, miss mccowan alleges that lisa bloom contacted her agent and said that there could be a lot of money for her if she would get on the harvey has changed
bandwagon. this is from an assertion from miss mccowan saying at first they offered a million dollars and then i got up to $6 million and she says i can't be bought. that's obviously a lot of money, it would change people's lives of course. she went on, publicly talked to miss bloom through twitter and i think her facebook saying we know who you are now, you've betrayed individuals, he tried to bribe me to do this. we supply them, keep in mind, has denied any of that occurred. what we also know is while she was representing harvey weinstein, she says that was a mistake. she said she had no idea how bad it was but at the same time, she was also on the defense team for roy price, the now-disgraced head of amazon studios, who has been indefinitely suspended for sexual harassment case. in that case of miss bloom, accused by ken masters, a well-respected journalist of threatening or effectively with lawsuits, which is what lawyers do, but also saying that she
would be exposed for doing this to mr. price because amazon wouldn't find a radio program that she had, which she says is completely false and is somewhat ironic since miss bloom at a business deal for a miniseries with harvey weinstein. you've got this interesting attempt in both cases to either silence women through money or to threaten them with it. >> tucker: and to profit from it herself in the process. if that's not the definition of corruption, i don't know what is. that's not her only mystery tonight. it las vegas. shrouded in mysteries, getting more confusing by the day. the mandalay bay security guard, all set to talk to the media, including sean hannity last thursday and then canceled and apparently disappeared. now mgm reports appears to be issuing statements on his behalf requesting privacy. meanwhile, cops still can't find a motive for the rampage. and we are learning that he may
have used someone else's federal i.d. what does this add up to, if anything? can you make heads or tails of this? >> his union when he first bailed on a series of interviews, it said we don't know where he is, he has just disappeared. then his union leader said without a text that says he went to an urgent center and now he's really does appear, we don't know where he is. this is what's troubling, there's already a lack of trust from the american people from big government. with that fake news and the conspiracy theories. here you've got a man who was effectively the only eyewitness in the moment on the floor, and he was shot. he was shot enough i, a security guard. and we now know for a period of time, we didn't know where he was but now mgm, his employer is saying we know where he is, he wants privacy. his union before said he wants to speak to people and let them know what he knows. at this point we have this major witness, we don't know where he is, the law enforcement is not
speaking about anything at this point in the american people are hearing so many different stories. this is what adds into and creates some fakeness. it can encourage conspiracy theorists. what we would hope for is the fbi should have more of a handle on this. >> tucker: yeah! >> whether or not he is an illegal alien. at this point, this transcends his status. we have a responsibility to let him know that. >> tucker: it does transcend that, i think that's right, but there's a report finally that he used someone else's social security number. do we know that? >> all of this, once again moves into gossip. we have no transparency, but this is also not a debated environment. we know exactly what happened. we know who did it in the moment. if you notice who also is out of the news, the girlfriend. when was the last time you heard about the status of the woman whose information he allegedly used ticket into the hotel and
in some ways that he used it in some fashion for some purchases, the american people -- it's important that we know because we are told by the government all the time that they know what's best that we have to follow their rules. >> tucker: i totally agree. i don't know what's going on but i have a pretty good nose for b.s., i know something is going on. thank you. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: up next we will close up the greatest revelation of the philosophical works of cnn's poet laureate, chris cuomo. ♪ afi sure had a lot on my mind. my 30-year marriage...
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take these incredibly dangerous crossings. talk me through why people want to leave and those push factors, especially west africa becoming increasingly unstable? starting from senegal, the country which is going through a tumultuous political crisis at the moment, with opposition figures being targeted, especially a popular one, who has beenin especially a popular one, who has been in the eye of the storm politically and has been disqualified from running for election. that level of uncertainty have pushed a lot of people from the country to seek further opportunities. but what we have seen so far, another reason could be poverty and those who have grown enough to venture out of the country, they want to travel. many of them see europe, the eu regions as an opportunity for a better life so they can work and send money back home to support their families financially. another issue is, the security issues that is plaguing
taken _ immediate steps that have been taken that— immediate steps that have been taken that will— immediate steps that have been taken that will be _ immediate steps that have been taken that will be successful - taken that will be successful even — taken that will be successful even in _ taken that will be successful even in the _ taken that will be successful even in the long _ taken that will be successful even in the long run? - taken that will be successful even in the long run? two. even in the long run? two questions _ even in the long run? two questions there, - even in the long run? two questions there, one - even in the long run? two questions there, one is i even in the long run?- questions there, one is about emergency welfare for people who are in a desperate situation right now. people i thought of choosing about whether they should eat, whether they should eat, whether their children relate, which child should go to school and which shouldn't. it really is a dire situation, and what can be done in the long run? well, i think there has not been a disruption to the sri lankan welfare schemes related to schoolchildren. there is a free midday meal, schooling is accessible to all at no cost. the issue is that we've had significant hyperinflation in this country, running at over 90%. so whatever daily meals were being provided by the government, you are not able to provide that same meal now, because the cost has almost doubled. and unfortunately, given the fact that we are in an economic crisis and the
where is it accountability? what — where is it accountability? what has _ where is it accountability? what has happened - where is it accountability? what has happened wheni where is it accountability? - what has happened when they have _ what has happened when they have treen— what has happened when they have been in— what has happened when they have been in power? - what has happened when they have been in power? what- what has happened when they i have been in power? what about the ongoing _ have been in power? what about the ongoing corruption? - have been in power? what about the ongoing corruption? there i the ongoing corruption? there have _ the ongoing corruption? there have treen— the ongoing corruption? there have been instances— the ongoing corruption? there have been instances right - the ongoing corruption? there| have been instances right now, as we _ have been instances right now, as we speak, _ have been instances right now, as we speak, of— have been instances right now, as we speak, of corruption - as we speak, of corruption going _ as we speak, of corruption going on _ as we speak, of corruption going on he _ as we speak, of corruption going on. he also- as we speak, of corruption going on. he also spoke . as we speak, of corruption - going on. he also spoke about the blow— going on. he also spoke about the blow to _ going on. he also spoke about the blow to the _ going on. he also spoke about the blow to the public - going on. he also spoke about the blow to the public sector. i the blow to the public sector. who — the blow to the public sector. who is — the blow to the public sector. who is responsible _ the blow to the public sector. who is responsible for- the blow to the public sector. who is responsible for that? i who is responsible for that? who— who is responsible for that? who hired _ who is responsible for that? who hired those _ who is responsible for that? who hired those people? i who is responsible for that? | who hired those people? we who is responsible for that? who hired those people? we are auoin to who hired those people? we are going to come — who hired those people? we are going to come to _ who hired those people? we are going to come to that. _ who hired those people? we are| going to come to that. applause i am so sorry, minister, but they like what she is saying and you didn't get any applause for the answer. anyway, let us hear your response to the question about corruption. i question about corruption. i tend to agree with what the minister said to the extent that corruption is one of the sort of manifestations of the broader issue of loss of accountability and weakening of institutions that we have had, and i think we need to, we can have certain structures and places in place, but i think one of the biggest areas or
what we saw. thank you very much indeed. _ what we saw. thank you very much indeed. let _ what we saw. thank you very much indeed. let us - what we saw. thank you very much indeed. let us go - what we saw. thank you very much indeed. let us go to i what we saw. thank you very much indeed. let us go to a | much indeed. let us go to a second question. your question please. second question. your question lease. ., please. how can corruption, which is _ please. how can corruption, which is the _ please. how can corruption, which is the leading - please. how can corruption, which is the leading reason l please. how can corruption, i which is the leading reason for why the — which is the leading reason for why the country is where it is now. — why the country is where it is now. be _ why the country is where it is now, be curbed to ensure sound policies — now, be curbed to ensure sound policies and governance? policies and governance ? sticking policies and governance? sticking out her head there, isn't she? we know about all the external factors that have gone on, but the question is that the internal factors principally corruption is the culprit. i principally corruption is the cul - rit. ~ principally corruption is the culrit. ,, ., , culprit. i think that is the key issue- _ culprit. i think that is the key issue. if— culprit. i think that is the key issue. if you - culprit. i think that is the key issue. if you look - culprit. i think that is the i key issue. if you look at the protests _ key issue. if you look at the protests last _ key issue. if you look at the protests last year, - key issue. if you look at the protests last year, one - key issue. if you look at the protests last year, one of. key issue. if you look at the i protests last year, one of the key demands— protests last year, one of the key demands of— protests last year, one of the key demands of people - protests last year, one of the key demands of people was i protests last year, one of the i key demands of people was give our stolen — key demands of people was give our stolen money— key demands of people was give our stolen money back, - key demands of people was give our stolen money back, and - key demands of people was give our stolen money back, and all. our stolen money back, and all those — our stolen money back, and all those who— our stolen money back, and all those who were _ our stolen money back, and all those who were responsible i our stolen money back, and all| those who were responsible for corruption _ those who were responsible for corruption accountable. - corruption accountable. addressing _ corruption accountable. addressing that - corruption accountable. addressing that is i corruption accountable. i addressing that is critical, but — addressing that is critical, but that— addressing that is critical, but that requires - addressing that is critical, but that requires a - addressing that is critical, i but that requires a political change. _ but that requires a political change, medical— but that requires a political change, medical reform, . but that requires a political. change, medical reform, and that— change, medical reform, and that is— change, medical reform, and that is the _ change, medical reform, and that is the point _ change, medical reform, and that is the point i— change, medical reform, and that is the point i made i that is the point i made earlier— that is the point i made earlier as _ that is the point i made earlier as well, - that is the point i made earlier as well, if i that is the point i made earlier as well, if we i that is the point i madel earlier as well, if we see that is the point i made i earlier as well, if we see this purely— earlier as well, if we see this purely in _ earlier as well, if we see this purely in terms _ earlier as well, if we see this purely in terms of _ earlier as well, if we see this purely in terms of an - earlier as well, if we see this l purely in terms of an economic crisis. — purely in terms of an economic crisis. that— purely in terms of an economic crisis, that would _ purely in terms of an economic crisis, that would be _ purely in terms of an economic crisis, that would be missing . crisis, that would be missing the lrig — crisis, that would be missing the big picture. _ crisis, that would be missing the big picture. this- crisis, that would be missing the big picture. this is- crisis, that would be missing the big picture. this is a i the big picture. this is a political— the big picture. this is a political crisis _ the big picture. this is a political crisis and i the big picture. this is a political crisis and the l political crisis and the decisions _ political crisis and the decisions and - political crisis and the decisions and choices|
enjoy, _ villages, people in power enjoy, backroom - villages, people in power enjoy, backroom deals, i enjoy, backroom deals, commissions, - enjoy, backroom deals, commissions, all- enjoy, backroom deals, commissions, all of- enjoy, backroom deals, . commissions, all of these issues _ commissions, all of these issues. �* . commissions, all of these issues. �* , , ., issues. and this has been going on for a very — issues. and this has been going on for a very long _ issues. and this has been going on for a very long time. - issues. and this has been going on for a very long time. this - on for a very long time. this has been — on for a very long time. this has been going _ on for a very long time. this has been going on _ on for a very long time. this has been going on for- on for a very long time. this has been going on for years. it is important _ has been going on for years. it is important to _ has been going on for years. it is important to recognise - has been going on for years. it is important to recognise that| is important to recognise that this is— is important to recognise that this is hot— is important to recognise that this is not about _ is important to recognise that this is not about covid - is important to recognise that this is not about covid or- is important to recognise that this is not about covid or thei this is not about covid or the last— this is not about covid or the last three _ this is not about covid or the last three years. _ this is not about covid or the last three years. it _ this is not about covid or the last three years. it is - last three years. it is something _ last three years. it is something that - last three years. it is something that is - last three years. it is - something that is systemic. corruption _ something that is systemic. corruption is _ something that is systemic. corruption is an _ something that is systemic. corruption is an limited - something that is systemic. j corruption is an limited that we have _ corruption is an limited that we have with the 21st amendment restored _ we have with the 21st amendment restored the independent councils, we are in the process of developing that, and by that, — of developing that, and by that, we _ of developing that, and by that, we have recognised and become — that, we have recognised and become corruption convention, and also — become corruption convention, and also the anticorruption law will conre _ and also the anticorruption law will come into place. but corruption is one of the key denrands— corruption is one of the key demands popular one, but to be honest. — demands popular one, but to be honest, that is not the only thing — honest, that is not the only thing. we have an extra large size _ thing. we have an extra large size public service of 1.6 nriition _ size public service of 1.6 million people which works out extent — million people which works out extent to — million people which works out extent to one, whereas india has 177 — extent to one, whereas india has 177 to _ extent to one, whereas india has 177 to one which we can't account— has 177 to one which we can't account for. 86% of our last year's — account for. 86% of our last year's revenue went only for payment _ year's revenue went only for payment of salaries, you cannot run a _ payment of salaries, you cannot run a country like that. 70% of our entirety of the budget this year— our entirety of the budget this year went for loan payment and
more and more people into the public sector and some of it is unemployed graduates but a large chunk of it is also politicians providing employment to their supporters through the institutions that they control.— through the institutions that the control. . . . they control. thank you. we are runnint they control. thank you. we are running out _ they control. thank you. we are running out of _ they control. thank you. we are running out of time _ they control. thank you. we are running out of time so - they control. thank you. we are running out of time so let's - they control. thank you. we are running out of time so let's go l running out of time so let's go to the next question. mr; to the next question. my question _ to the next question. my question to _ to the next question. my question to you - to the next question. my question to you is what are your— question to you is what are your thoughts _ question to you is what are your thoughts on— question to you is what are your thoughts on which - your thoughts on which countries _ your thoughts on which countries sri _ your thoughts on which countries sri lanka - your thoughts on which i countries sri lanka should your thoughts on which - countries sri lanka should look at aligning _ countries sri lanka should look at aligning themselves - at aligning themselves economically- at aligning themselves economically in - at aligning themselves economically in order. at aligning themselves. economically in order to at aligning themselves - economically in order to stem the cost — economically in order to stem the cost of— economically in order to stem the cost of living _ economically in order to stem the cost of living crisis, - the cost of living crisis, given— the cost of living crisis, given sri _ the cost of living crisis, given sri lanka's- the cost of living crisis, i given sri lanka's current precarious _ given sri lanka's current precarious financial- precarious financial predicament - precarious financial predicament as - precarious financiali predicament as well precarious financial- predicament as well as for future _ predicament as well as for future growth _ predicament as well as for future growth and - future growth and sustainability. - future growth and sustainability. future growth and sustainabili . ., ., sustainability. you kick-off on that one- _ sustainability. you kick-off on that one- i — sustainability. you kick-off on that one. i think _ sustainability. you kick-off on that one. i think if _ sustainability. you kick-off on that one. i think if you - sustainability. you kick-off on that one. i think if you look i that one. i think if you look at long-term _ that one. i think if you look at long-term economic - at long—term economic interests, my sense as an economist is that we are better aligned to the asian region because asia has been identified as a centre of growth for the next 2—3
reforms that people are demanding is actually in the political leadership, because corruption has not sprung on us overnight, and economic crisis did not spring up overnight either. this has been successive governments over the last few decades where we have persistently seen institutions been weakening. so there is no quick fix. mil been weakening. so there is no cuick fix. �* ., quick fix. all right. i am orirn quick fix. all right. i am going to _ quick fix. all right. i am going to take _ quick fix. all right. i am going to take the - quick fix. all right. i am going to take the next | quick fix. all right. i am i going to take the next two questions together because they both ask something that is related. ., ,., ., both ask something that is related. ., ., ., , related. how important does the ranel related. how important does the panel think _ related. how important does the panel think welfare _ related. how important does the panel think welfare reforms - panel think welfare reforms will he _ panel think welfare reforms will be in the coming months to support— will be in the coming months to support those most affected by the cost — support those most affected by the cost of living crisis? thank— the cost of living crisis? thank you, and the next one. a nutritious meal for children in the general— nutritious meal for children in the general population - nutritious meal for children in the general population as - nutritious meal for children in the general population as a l the general population as a whole — the general population as a whole has _ the general population as a whole has been _ the general population as a whole has been absent - the general population as a whole has been absent fori the general population as a i whole has been absent for a long — whole has been absent for a long tinre _ whole has been absent for a long time. what _ whole has been absent for a long time. what are - whole has been absent for a long time. what are the - long time. what are the immediate _ long time. what are the immediate steps- long time. what are the immediate steps that. long time. what are the i immediate steps that have long time. what are the - immediate steps that have been
to get through, so let us go to ourfirst one. to get through, so let us go to our first one.— our first one. how can sri lanka survive _ our first one. how can sri lanka survive in - our first one. how can sri lanka survive in a - our first one. how can sri lanka survive in a globall lanka survive in a global crisis like this? will this not lead to more civil unrest? thank you very much for the question _ thank you very much for the question. a very difficult time for all— question. a very difficult time for all of— question. a very difficult time for all of us. i question. a very difficult time forall of us. i hope question. a very difficult time for all of us. i hope that i had — for all of us. i hope that i had an_ for all of us. i hope that i had an answer for that, you don't — had an answer for that, you don't have it, it is not easy to to — don't have it, it is not easy to to be _ don't have it, it is not easy to to be frank with that, international prices have gone up, international prices have gone up. the — international prices have gone up, the rupee has depreciated, energy. — up, the rupee has depreciated, energy, petroleum, coal, 35% of what _ energy, petroleum, coal, 35% of what we — energy, petroleum, coal, 35% of what we are relying on for our electricity. _ what we are relying on for our electricity, and all those things. _ electricity, and all those things, but what we are trying to do— things, but what we are trying to do is— things, but what we are trying to do is to _ things, but what we are trying to do is to control inflation, curb — to do is to control inflation, curb the _ to do is to control inflation, curb the demand so that inflation is controlled. i have seen — inflation is controlled. i have seen we _ inflation is controlled. i have seen we have some positivity, 95% _ seen we have some positivity, 95% of— seen we have some positivity, 95% of the inflation injune and — 95% of the inflation injune and july— 95% of the inflation injune and july had 95% of the inflation injune and july had come down to 70, 60%. _ and july had come down to 70, 60%, and _ and july had come down to 70, 60%, and the food and general inflation — 60%, and the food and general inflation has also come down from — inflation has also come down from 85% to 50. therefore i