from the more populist angle. >> and over the lastus angle a r pr so, it's been strange,show s a president who's shown that he's so in touch touch previousy with the american people, what they thought has shownvo a little a level of separationrh from the republican voter, whether it's hyping vaccinesy fm early on or now attackingft or the senator repeatedly from the left or saying, as ben just wrote about this week, sayingn that somehow ron desantis ran a bad job of covid inut new york . bu t andrew cuomo did a good job a in new york . that's completely that'sg hi the interesting things that when he ron desantis comes at him from his own lane, that might actually start to change. >> it'>> pets interesting. t i just get trump's numbers the continue to go up when they see' what the left has donet to himy >> i don't know how you takebaso away that baked into the cake among his base. tough fo r anybody to do.e >> ben and chris, thank you very much. all right. final thoughts when we return. >> with allegra allergies. don't hold us back.
begin the flourishing of his relationship with fox news. he has been on fox numerous, numerous, times are they call him virtually every day to be on. they have given him this national platform. no, he is very articulate. he kind of radiates this kind of populist angle. i think that plays very well there. they made him, fox made him a national figure. i can dare to say. now it is off to the races. he knows, he feels it. you can tell when you hear him talk. he feels like he is ready. he's ambitious. he is ready. the question is, the question is really, what is trump what to do? depending on what trump decides, what is desantis going