he is getting some traction where other candidates have not . le is part and parcel of.ea what you just mentioned, the angle heking t speaking to . voters. he s not attacking he i trump. he s not degrading those voters. he s trying to actually win ron desantisdoing thr. ron desantis is not doing that. and i think that s one of the reasons that his campaiged d thus far has failed to move the needle in the upward directio.n. now, matt, what about this? i mean, the wake is really impressive. his ability to articulate issues mirrors really the thinking the populisth conservative thinking of both trump and desantis. soansantis all three candidatesf the more populist variety. obviously, ramaswamy is way down, but still he has moved, .as tom said. what s going on here? well, for one reason that ramaswamy moved up is because he was full in his support of donald trump with regard to the indictments and said that herdo.
where other candidates have not. is part and parcel of what you just mentioned the angle. he is speaking to trump voters. he is not attacking trump. he is not degrading those voters. is he trying to actually win them over. ron desantis is not doing that and i think that s one of the reasons that his campaign thus far has failed to move the needle in the upward direction. laura: now, matt, what about this? i mean, vivek is really impressive. his ability to articulate the issues mirrors really the thinking, the populist conservative thinking of both trump and desantis. all three candidates are of the more populist variety. obviously vivek ramaswamy is way down but still he has moved as tom said. what s going on here? well, one reason that ram ramaswamy full throated in support of donald trump in indictments and he had would