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Democrats will be talking about immigration because thats an important issue for us. but think in some respects, the litigation will play out sort of as a sideline, and that just means its going to be a tough vote every since months. everything, matt9 -- eric: matt, the president can go out and say were going to build a wall, the democrats are trying to stop it, i mean, this kind of -- in that way, do you think this plays right into the presidents strength on the campaign snail. >> i think dave ...

What it was used to them we had much bigger evidence you know when we had this spy in custody you know again when they say that we sort of going to shut down a pox on your sixteen ways and you know because whatever of you say you provide evidence for that we substantiate that but you know what but this a is just sort of you know based on their belief you know and sometimes you know you dont. know what youre like in terms of believe believe as you know you have mr moody you believe yeah there are...

The president hasnt learned from the last shutdown? >> i dont think were headed for another shutdown. there are two alternatives. either they all come to a compromise where everybody gets something in order to be able to both advocate to their constituencies and save face or hes going to go to emergency action to build the wall that way and well wind up in court. i think the white house is clear on the idea, and congress by the way, is clear on the idea that another shutdown is no good. nobody w...

Decided i like this governor but i dont like republicans. and thats the problem the partys going to have. they may have one or two republicans on any ballot they like, but theyre not trumpers, theyre not all -- not the crazy. but any other republican out there is a pox on their house, its a way of sending a message that measures up to that 63% negative. >> so peter, about those numbers our two news organizations collaborated to poll in the field, talk to our audience, members of our audience who...

Government if this actually passes this bill for mcconnell? >> thats a good question. ive been in this position a hundred times. we have the majority, where the senate would send something over another question is, "are you going to put on the floor and let some republicans and democrat support? and i dont think theres anything wrong with it with both sides coming together to say they dont live within it. but at least its progressing forward. shes going to have a decision to make. i hope the sen...

Partial government shutdown continues on. democrats flatly rejecting the presidents proposal to reopen government. who would you say has the stronger hand in this present tug of war? >> thats the right question, george. were in a tug of war. the president has himself between a rock and a hard place. the longer this thing goes on the more he loses support among mainstream america. but if he compromises too much with the democrats hes going to lose the support of his hardcore base, which already i...

>> $5.7 billion of taxpayers money. oh, gosh, i thought mexico was going to be paying for that. >> yeah, also that, too. >> joel, to you. 800,000 people right now are on the cusp of missing another paycheck because of this. in the big picture, does anyone have the moral high ground here? how does anyone justify playing games like this when youve got 800,000 innocent people pretty much playing the pawn here? >> look, ive worked in government a long time, and people dont tend to separate out washi...

Blaming republicans for this, its almost getting to be a pox on both your houses, we hate both you guys. >> which is why we have to start with lets end the shutdown and lock ourselves in a room and comprehensive review on immigration. >> i dont think that the president is going to stopping the shutdown or ending the shutdown without making within further case for funding the physical barriers. neil: is either side realistic going to bend when their bases are so adamant? >> or should they bend? >...

Democratic strategist and a former republican strategist and editor and writer for house united. so sherry, lets just start with you. is it just more posturing from both sides or are we making some progress here on day 29? >> look, i think trump realizes that he had to to something. his numbers are tanking. hes getting down into nixonian numbe numbers. he was at 24% when he left the white house. donald trump had to blink. i dont think hes going to get everything he wants but he had no choice. he...

And we can argue about nancy pelosi saying its an immoral wall when she voted for the wall last year and did not declare when barack obama built 133 miles of wall -- >> it was fencing. fencing and barriers -- >> oh, no, no, it was walls. >> it doesnt matter. >> heres the bottom line -- >> he said mexico would pay for this. >> you can stay stuck yesterday. i think the american people are saying a pox on both -- >> [inaudible] >> relate me finish, let me finish, let me finish, let me finish -- >> ...