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nothing to do with his qualifications. >> they are opposed to donald trump pointing anyone to the supreme court. >> kneneil gorsuch a good man. >> it's the democrats who are breaking the rules, what they're doing is changing the 200 year status quo. the ironny is that you could have said the exact same things, regarding judge garland. that, of course, was president's garland's dom knee to fill the same vacancy who republicans refused to hold a single confirmation hearing, much less a vote. it was an unprecedented feet of obstruction. which mitch mcconnell on the campaign trail later, one of my proudest moments. the garland affairs seem to have taught democrats a lesson about the up sides of obstructionism and now with engaged based marching the streets and turning up the town hall showing to posed any kind of cooperation whatsoever with this president, there's new in washington. just four democratic senators came out against a gorsuch fill buster, facing tough re-election battles. they've vowed to confirm him when the senate adjourns for two-week recess. democrats now face a choice, either take the loss or change the rules to make it impossible to fill buster supreme court nominees. it's known as nuclear option and according to senate minority leader chuck schumer, republicans don't have to go that far. >> they don't have to treat the nuclear option as if it's their first and only option. it's a false choice. to my friends on the other side, the answer isn't to change the rules, the answer is to change the nominees. >> joining me now, democratic senator of hawaii, a member of the senate judiciary committee. >> senator, i want you to respond to this things your colleagues and committee said, this is politicized you have no objections against him and this is unprecedent. >> well, we have a lot of substantive objections against judge gorsuch, it has to do with, after reviewing his cases and how he approaches his judicial decision, he's very much in favor of corporations over individual rights. he will fit right in with roberts court and send this court further to the right in ways that will not protect minority rights. >> but, is there any -- i mean, the argument, i think, from republicans is that essentially there will be no republican nominee that would passer a threshold, is that a fair objection. >> no, it's not. in fact there was a nominee that had not been hand selected by the heritage foundation and the conservative groups spent by the way over $10 million trying to get judge gorsuch to this point, i will be open to someone who is or provision so that minority person is harmed. >> let me ask you this: when this started i felt like the folks i talked to on the hill. on the background chats, thought that this would go through. they didn't think the democrats would get enough votes to fill buster. trace for me the trajectory here among you and your colleagues in terms of how you guys at this point. >> i certainly waited until after the hearings. part of the whole process of the hearings, four days of it, was first to try to find out what his judicial philosophy was, of course, that makes the difference. judicial fi lphilosophy -- that because our justice has come with life experiences and various perspectives. he would not give us an inkling as to how he would view laws. he just kept saying, he would follow precedent. he's going to the one court that sets precedent. it was not reassuring at all a. we looked at his record and his decisions. hobby lobby, where all of a sudden, very expanded rights for corporation to have religious rights over the rights of thousands of employees, female employees of hobby lobby who suddenly were not going to get this kind of insurance coverage. >> so respond to an alternate thee theory of what happened. this is a substantive decision i've come to and my colleagues have come ton the merits. it's about his judicial philosophynd another way of viewing this, he's tremendous organized pressure to put on democratic by the activist base that felt like any vote, it's fundamentally ill -- i certainly didn't feel any pressure. i think that's kind of an argument that some people like to make. in fact, my colleagues from texas, ted cruz said that the democrats of the committee were afraid of being primary. and i said, at the mark up. that that kind of statement doesn't even deserve any kind of response, it's so ridiculous. you know, we ask serious questions of judge gorsuch. and he did not provide us with the kind of responses that would enable us to conclude that he would be a justice for all of us and not just some of us. >> all right, senator. >> all right. >> i could go on. >> finish your thought. well, what's going to be interesting, we may get a chance to talk more about depending on how this shakes out. >> certainly. >> thank you. >> i'm joined now by brian, former communications director, former chief spokesperson to senate majority leader. brian, there's one way of looking at this which is, god is dead all is permitted, are all the pretenses been stripped away and the strategy adopted in 2009, obstruction by in means it was kind of learned from watching you dad moment. if you were able to pull off the garland gambit. which was so amazingly audacious, why not cry obstruction by any means. >> well, i mean, mitch mcconnell is -- does have the power to get this passed. you can thank harry reid for that. he set the table for this. he can also thank people like you, chris hayes, you as a progressive have been very vocal in your support for fill buster reform. you should be sheering mitch mcconnell for doing this. this is another step. >> the fill buster antidemocratic procedural mechanism that is nowhere in the constitution. i think of sort of selective thing it's fine. just to be clear on the impeer cal skyrocketing which became de facto super majority one of the houses which is nowhere in the constitutional architecture and we all know how much you and everyone loves originalism. this is obama just in his first four years, that's just the first term, 307 fill buster, there's just nothing like it. so if it becomes a de facto, you know, super majority, i mean, yeah i think they should kill it. >> yeah, but senators are lazy. to be honest, the way that i think this should happen, i am not a fan of the nuclear option. i do not -- i'm not happy about the senate traditions being chipped away. i think this is a terrible thing. but i understand why it's happening. it's happening because harry reid exempted everything accept for the supreme court with his strangling the rules to change the rules. i get why that's happening. i will see a real talking fill buster. i will rather, you want to block this nominee, let's see you guys get down to the senate floor to 24 or 48 hours. >> this was -- jim, you were in the square parts of these debates, you wrote it together saying you shouldn't fill buster, my understanding, jim, you have now come around to think they should fill buster here. >> that's a fact, correct. i've come to the decision after long -- a lot of thought that this is absolute the right thing to go. for me with all do respect to the senator, it absolutely has everything, almost everything to do with how they treated merit garland. they refused to give this good man even the courtesy of a hearing and now for them to say, all these crocodile tears about what happened is absolutely ridiculous. you and i have been talking about this for years, chris. i have been very reluctant to change, but i think that this is absolutely the right thing to do by senator schumer and i applaud the caucus for holding together. what i want to talk about is how do these democrats get to this place where they felt comfortable voting and this nominee. >> i'm -- jim, i'm actually shocked. i have to say, i think and obviously as senator says this was sort of substantive joining the merits. when you look at that whip count, what's your answer to that having been inside the office. >> and i understand, agn, why the senator said that. butheact of the matter is, if you look at the house, you look at what happened so-called trump care, no one, anyone who is afraid of getting on the wrong side of a trump tweet storm right now, needs to get a new job. because at 36% approval rating, unable to move legislative agenda, obviously, a whole bunch of these democrats feel very comfortable in taking this stand at this point in time. and i've got to tell you, a couple of weeks ago like you, you know, i thought this was going to happen. and he was going to be confirmed. but, obviously, the handwriting is on the wall. it's not going to happen. >> it's laughable. it really is laughable when chuck schumer goes on the floor and says we need a new nominee. >> i thought it was laughable when mitch mcconnell said garland is not going to get any meetings. not only was he not going to get any meetings. when he said that, i thought, that's laughable. i also -- >> i think that was perfectly defensible. >> the constitution says if the senate has a right to advise and consent. >> that's exactly what the democrats are doing right now. they're withdrawing their consent. i said this to senate to senator, i said, yes, means not giving our consent. >> right. >> democrats are not giving their consent to go forward to a vote. that's part of advising consent. >> no, they don't have -- >> that's ridiculous. >> that's definition. >> you can't even vote. >> they do not have enough votes. they do have votes to fill buster and every nomination but the supreme court. but it's logical to understand that this was inevitably going to happen. >> this is the thing that drives me crazy, everybody just has to pretend all of these, like, everyone -- i mean i just watched in all of these folks, oh my gosh, the expressions, sadness that we've come here. this is so upsetting and the plit sizization, i don't know what happened. they blocked garland for an entire year. they made up a rule about final year of president's term appears nowhere in the constitution, appears nowhere in tradition. that's fine, they won that battle. why should anyone pretend it's anything of sheer will to power of what you could pull off, jim. why should anyone pretend there's anything more than that? >> they shouldn't. i mean, the crocodile tears coming out of the senate republicans at this point in time, it takes a cake. i hope just democrats are realizing, these guys aren't playing by the same rules as democrats do. it's about time to try and fight fire with fire. >> brian, here, ultimate, quickly on this, are they going to get the votes to pull off nuclear option. >> i think they will. i think they will because we saw democrats hold the line. i think they only lost three democrats in that vote for harry reid's use. i assume the republicans will stick together. >> thank you, both. >> coming up, reports of an attempted back channel connection between 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associate for the one secretly spied on by the obama administration. today it became clear, that counter narrative will involve obama national security adviser susan rice. it was first written up on the far right in the peace title sue a sanrice requested unmasking of incoming officials and turned up on fox and friend where they called the whole thing unprecedented. the president apparently live tweeting the entire view of the show, says fox news from multiple source there is's electronic surveillance and people close to trump. short time after that, bloomberg suggesting that rice was the person who would request the identities of trump transition officials whose phone conversations of foreign officials were collected. joining me now is susan hennessy of the national security agency. all right, it's very clear to me now you've got all of the parts of the let's say benghazi industrial complex working to send this idea that the real scandal here is the obama folks spying on the trump campaign, what do you make of it? >> right. so,again, again, they're sort of trying to advance this narrative that the real story is something else, leaks, the fact incidental collection. the issue is that they're describing perfectly legal and what appears to be proper conduct of intelligence activity. the question becomes either their advocating for major intelligence reform, pretty dramatic of the traditional republican tradition on these issues. or they're being offered to distract from the real story. >> yeah, so i want to talk about it, i think it's worth getting to it for a moment. right, there's something called minimumization exist because you want to protect the privacy of american persons when you are surveilling foreign entities. with that foreign entity has conversation it's minimized or masked. senior intelligence officials, including the national security adviser, who is the american on the other side of that conversation, if it is the case that susan rice did that in these context, that -- is that okay, is that not okay. what do you make of that. >> so this would be sort of within the ordinary activity of a national security adviser. i typically would occur as a generic identifier. u.s. person number one. in some cases it will even be title, especially in the case of a government official. so sometimes that information will be disseminated with that generic identifier. the senior officials will say, hey, in order to understand the foreign intelligence value with the significance and meeting of this, i need more information. and in that case they'll make request of nsa and in order to provide that additional information it will be in the ordinary job of the national security adviser. also, nsa would be making a separate determination as to whether or not it met those requirements before actually performing lastly. >> i kept sort of running through the thought experiment here, i'm susan rice and i made some intelligence product that says foreign intelligence, someone that we're spying on, had conversation with, you know, u.s. person campaign official a and i'm thinking to myself, well i think i want to know who that was and it doesn't seem crazy. >> right. so it certainly it's not crazy, but you wouldn't be able to unmask information just as a matter of personal curiosity. it's about whether or not you need that information in order to perform your official duty. and so that standard is a relatively high one. but it's one that a relatively limited number of people are allowed to make and there are externalhecks and controls on when that information is allowed to be distributed. >> so i don't know if you have thoughts on this, you are in a position like all of us sort of sorting through the kind of steady barrage this new washington reporting tonight about eric prince trying to set up a back channel, the two day meeting, apparently with someone close to putin. and we know that eric prince from some of the reporting, that was on the is close to the trump orbit, how does that strike you. >> right. so once again, sort of the bizarre feature here seems to be the secrecy, right. there's nothing necessarily improper about incoming administration wanting to communicate with foreign governments including russia. we've seen administration, have talked about resets and pivots. the -- what is strange here and has been strange in the past is the secrecy and sort of why you would sort of dispatch this unofficial individuals but it was not part of the transition team in order to establish that back channel communication. why wouldn't be forthright, especially considering all of the news stories, that is raises suspicions about what is there to hide here. >> why all the big channel. thanks for joining us. >> ahead, new revelations that president trump secretly revised his blind trust allowing him to take money from any of his businesses whenever he feels like it, that story coming up. marie knows that a dutch apple pie can 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price's stockbroker bought him up to $90,000 stock in six pharmaceutical companies last year. the same day he arranged to top u.s. official seeking to scuttle a controversial rule that could have hurt the firm's profits and driven down their share prices. it's worth remembering they told them price' trades were being investigated by the former u.s. attorney, district of attorney before he was fired by president trump last month despite trump having previously indicated he would keep him in that job. that's one of the conflict issues that trumped up in the past few days. next the white house is denying a report the president made a secret change. the new documents that could spell ethics trouble for jared kushner and ivanka trump right after this short break. the friends, the independence. and since we planned for it, that student debt is the one experience, i'm glad she'll miss when you have the right financial advisor, life can be brilliant. ameriprise [ om[ sniffs ]c ] little girl: 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blog makes the point of something changing doesn't mean it actually happened. i'm not aware that there was ever a change in the trust. and the idea that the president is withdrawing money at some point is exactly the purpose of what the trust -- why a trust is set up regardless of an individual. >> i'm -- last question on this, you're not saying whether or not it has changed just to clarify. you're not sure. >> to the best of my knowledge, it hasn't changed. >> and a lot to fact check, one it's not a left blog. withdraw it's not actually a trust. the trump trust doc revised and signed on february 10 pointed out to spicer on twitter. stipulates it shall distribute net income or principal to donald j. trump at his request. this is of the revelations we've gotten about the conflicts in the past few days. many other ethical issues, for president george w. bush. mr. painter, my understanding is that actual blind trusts have mechanisms to disburse money. but in this case it was never a blind trust to begin with. now it's been further amended without letting anyone know. >> well, yes. this trust was never a blind trust, this trust did absolutely nothing to remove conflicts of interest and i don't think anybody who knows anything about conflict of interest law ever thought it removed conflict. this is a trust to set up to benefit donald trump and allow him to do whatever he wants with the assets he wants that's clearly what's going on. a qualified blind trust is one of the ethics and government act where the office holder transfers the assets to the trustee. the trustee then sells the conflict creating assets, tells the office holder they have been sold and invested something else knowing about it. but that has nothing to do with this trust. this trust is simply flair to be a vehicle to hold donald trump's businesses until he done being president. >> i want to ask you about some of the disclose sures we got on friday from the office of government ethics. particularly about two people that are working in the administration, the president's daughter ivanka. saying ivanka trump and jared kushner benefitting. what strikes me as important here, is the conflict of interest laws may not apply directly to the president in the way that the, you know, criminal exposure and the like. but it should apply to people like jared kushner. how big of a problem is it that they have all of this potential exposu exposure. >> well, it does. the credible statute that does apply. the conflict of interest law. the white house counsel's office trying to wiggle around that calling ivanka a volunteer, they knew full well that wsht going to fly. i think ivanka's lawyer is telling her she better comply with the conflict of interest statutes. let's make her a real employ. she is subject to this law and so is jared and that means they'll have to stay out of banking, financial services regulation, because that effects real estate. they'll have to stay out of tax reform. and of course, trade, with ivanka importing clothing from china. so they stay out of those three areas, i guess there's something else for them to do. this is a very very broad recusal and most white houses that someone sell off. clothing butting her name on it. >> that would be referred to the criminal division of the department of justice, there's republican integrity unit over there, with a lot of experience, career lawyers, this is not something that attorney general sessions will be able to sweep under the rug and in those types of manners, a lot of people participating and you see jared kushner or ivanka trump getting anywhere close to the matter, you can bet a lot of people calling over to the justice department. this is a manageable conflict, but i hope they're relying on their own lawyer, who was a lot better than the lawyers in the white house. as i said, we're trying to pretend that ivanka trump wasn't a government employee. it was a broad recusal they're going to have to stay out of a lot of things and china is one for example. everything he doesn't like something china does, he threatens trade sanctions. right then and there, jared and ivanka may have to walk out of the room if she's importing clothes from china. >> it seems to me like they're putting themselves in a terrible position, in terms of exposure. when you talk about criminal exposure. talk about tom price. we've got new information, again, this was a republic reporting on friday that he intervened on a rule that would hurt drug profits the same day he acquired some drug stock. he has had a series of allegations of conflict and we have reporting suggesting he's being investigated possibly by the southern district of new york. >> well, he's got the conflict of interest problem because of the stock, but he's got another problem as well. if he goes out and buys that stock when he has material public information that isn't known to other investors, he is violating insider trader loss. he said wall street people off to jail on a regular basis and congressman also are prohibited from trading the basis of nonpublic information and they learned from the work on capitol hill and that episode is very troubling. it was the same day he made that trade when he was taking steps that he knew about other people didn't, to help that company. so that is not a good situation. >> all right. richard painter, thanks for your time. >> thank you. >> still to come, the author of an explosive "new york times" report detailing brand new allegations against bill o'reilly of fox news and today was novelty check day at the white house. find out what this is all about in tonight's serious. thing one, thing two, right after this break. why pause a spontaneous moment? cialis for daily use treats ed and the urinary symptoms of bph. tell your doctor about your medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, or adempas® for pulmonary hypertension, as this 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"new york times" found different women who settled with either mr. o'reilly or fox news channel. including verbal abuse and unwanted advances. fox news responded in a statement that reads while he denies the merits of these claims, mr. o'reilly has resolved those that he claims are his responsibility. he says i'm vulnerable to lawsuits from individuals who want me to tay them negative publicity. one company has pulled its adds from the o'reilly factor. mercedes-benz has made a statement. joining me now, michael schmidt, coauthor of the "new york times" piece. michael, let me start with you. there has been reporting in the past. i want to be clear about what's new here. there's been reporting of settlements that have been public. there are current lawsuits outstanding. but there are new things that you and your colleagues found in this article previously unreported. >> we reported on five settlements. two of the five have been already out there. one in 2004 and one we reported on in january. we brought three new settlements to light. we told windy walsh's story. we also explained the story of andrea tan tar ross in her piece. allegations that were later backed up by her psychologist who testified under oath that she told her that these things had gone on from mr. o'reilly. >> explain what her position is. it is interesting she decided she's not filing a lawsuit. she's potentially just coming forward to talk about what happened. >> right. intrepid "new york times" reporters apparently went through old tapes of fox news shows. they looked for women who were on and simply cold called them. windy got a call and she was asked about whether she had experienced any sexual harassment at fox news or what her relationship was with bill o'reilly. and eventually established a relationship with emily steel, eventually she told her what happened. windy is a friend of mine. she's a previous client of mine. all along i was with her. i told her if you want to come out with this story, i will stand by you and defend you. if bill o'reilly comes you, we know how invictive he can be. i was with her today. her story is very clear she was a guest for about a couple of weeks, i think three weeks. she was hoping to get a paid contributor position. mr. o'reilly asked her out to differential she joined him at the bel air hotel. after dinner he wanted to take her to his room. she refused. he immediately turned hostile and the idea of the contribute deal was off the table this is called acquitt -- >> roger ailes probably the most powerful man in media leaving fox news in disgraces, although with quite a sizable severance package after a series of reports came out, allegation after allegation after allegation. what is the posture of fox towards o'reilly now that there are five settlements on the record and possibly others as lawsuits now? >> we know mr. o'reilly's contract has been extended. fox extended it knowing that he had reached many of these settlements. the important thing is that two of them have been reached since mr. ailes left. fox knew about those settlements when they extended his contract recently. so the question is and a lot of people havesked me but fox hasn't answered why is mr. o'reilly being treated differently than mr. ailes. fox would you say the cases that were brought in recent months against mr. o'reilly which he settled have any merit and they've been able to dismiss them. >> do you want to respond to that? >> it's been since 2014 with andrea and what she went through where it seemed clear she had recordings about what he wanted to do in the shower with her all the way until the present. in any other company, bill o'reilly would be fired. i call upon the state division of human rights in new york to do their own investigation into sexual harassment at fox news. they treat these payments as the cost of doing pitches they have no interest in getting rid of this man who's accused of being a serial harasser. and instead the women are driven out over and over again. they're driven out of their careers. this is a harm to women's rights. and i hope they will do an investigation. >> bow daedal was an on air personality at fox news, has been retained in one case to dig up dirt on the accuser. >> we went back to the 2004 case and looked at how fox responded to that. they worked with mr. o'reilly to hire an investigator to dig up dirt and paint her in as negative a light as possible. we used that case as a way of trying to figure out how did they look at these things. how did that continue in the years that came. >> thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you. that does it for us here on all inn this evening on this news packed monday. the maddow maddow show starts right now. good evening, rachel. >> good evening null cries. thanks to you the home for joining us this hour. buzzfeed ali watkins has a sort of jaw dropping scoop tonight about the trump campaign.

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Transcripts For DW DocFilm - Street Food 20180120 03:15:00

we will taste life on the streets. and find food for thought in the process. by norman fun and keep me posted. and we'll do tomas i'm on my wife first off the united states. this is how a perfect day starts in portland oregon with hockey breakfast. at eight o'clock. i'm. sure it's. the. speed of the feast. sandra owner of the egg carton proudly presents the goods belmont sandwich and eggs benedict handmade homemade and made with long you. will find that this is a raspberry having your original so it starts weeds but it's going to end with a cake because have in your eyes will affect you later in the palate and it's it's definitely a hot ticket for us. with the common thing you'll hear from chefs food carts is well i'm not a real chef but michel sleiman is a prominent chef here in the united states and he defines a chef as someone who runs their own kitchen so i use that against those who got owners to help them realize she runs her own kitchen the food is amazing she has employees. supervising everything she's a chef and she's a great chef. live from portland oregon says tasty to zing than a nine point one f.m. portland radio project i am stephen show me your host the lie that you're here with me this morning as always we have three hours of also music rock folk and blues then coming up at nine am we'll have a food guest live and in studio. any different than in other cities in the u.s. but poland is different. maybe. for the average joe and jane as for the extra votes. is the perfect place for stealing his personal grief goes something like this. for thing on his radio show. in the rain shelly's garden now known as honk and huge burritos was one of the first food carts we've had here in portland we had a real explosion the food cart scene when the great recession hit the portland economy today we have more than six hundred carts open in the metro area pave the way for carts to come into being. many an american dream has been born in a. dream starts anew every morning in her. she thought she might be in the media but then decided against it she just couldn't see herself she tells me. don't personally. as a family. business. at the height of it about two year two thousand we had thirteen people on payroll we had ten locations in the city and i was much more of a manager at that time than a vendor because i was having i had babies and two little girls and so i was busy doing that stuff so i could be a manager as soon as the girls were about five six years old i came right back and started jumped in to be a vendor again and kind of size down at that point because i really i like a little less hustle and bustle i like having the one cart now. today there you have just one food caught in the heart of portland. walking burritos right or shine even people came through the rain you know that's lucky. enough the golden good looking thing. what are you doing today in the big world sometimes people were hungry and could come and just talk and share with their lives than share with me and we have something to eat for them and so we're trying to be a member of the community that way and now i've seen generations of people grow up and come back and bring their families and their grandchildren and and really love the journey of being in a place for twenty five years and the. customer has received a letter from. now people come to shani for advice she likes to home in a city where very very many people need how known as a progressive bastion of liberal values. long struggle to cope with homelessness. hungry constant even if they don't have money. you like to. do you like fresh go very nice house might leave you like. treated with courtesy and respect just like every other and share your laugh you're very welcome. so when it comes up in the food court here in portland there are four things you need that are absolutely essential one you need a place most of our food carts are not mobile they are and what we call food cart pods you have to have somewhere to put your cart the second thing you need is your actual cart and whether it is a trailer that you poll or an actual truck with an engine you need to get one of those contraptions some people buy them used some people have the manufacturer there's a number of really good manufacturers right here in portland that will make one for you. mike and his mechanics on the sunshine experts they build food trucks customers need to fork out plenty pint to fifty thousand dollars for a trailer bolting kitchen that's made to measure up every time two to three months but they can also manage to weeks because ultimately everything is possible. so far i know of two trailers that i've sold that didn't quite make it just two. which makes me feel that what i do is the right place this is where people grow and they make money and they're successful they're happy. it sounds like an easy formula and it sure worked his food trucks are a runaway success. but they get the part because you know it we visit the bar but if it can't be you can't be you might do it you know i know i have eight months so they upped it so it's good. that he's ready to roll literally from tomorrow mows new trail will be serving up freshly fried spring rolls. calorie pioneers cook up a storm on street corners across for live your dream do your thing that spirit is no longer everywhere in the u.s. but it is here in portland. is especially when it comes to food. steve on the radio host. and cullen are a storyteller it's made it his mission to help newcomers to the city. it's a jump that suits his tastes. that verges begging to be eaten. it is phenomenal. you get cheese you got bacon tomato lettuce thousand island. and wonder just runs down your fans like that the nominal right there at your burger of old baby. but it takes perseverance and hard work to strike don't stephen has no illusions they are bad for business being in the colony business is very very very hard work it's a scourging of long hours it's tiring and you don't make any money when i first started some people said oh you're just a cheerleader for food carts and i said you're right i am pompoms are free many skirt you have to pay extra for that because i wanted to cheer them on and i knew they could make it and every time a blue collar succeeds it was brick and mortar has multiple parts and makes his business go. it fills my heart with joy i want to see that make it did thomas is the american dream dent the innovation at least is alive and kicking on the streets of portland. down here in mexico the stories they tell sound like dreams every year in early november a miracle happens in the mountains outside mexico city millions of monarch butterflies arrive in several pinoy like thoughts on the wind. it's the end of an eight month migration to wide areas of north america and back a journey that takes the butterflies for successive generations to complete. come spring the monarchs will breed before flying north to lay eggs and then die it is not known how their offspring find their way back to mexico. but people on the streets of the capital have their own explanation one that's been passed down through the generations. we'll get into a little bundle yes a lot of them but we believe that when someone dies and is buried they rise again as a butterfly. and no other day of the day and all the day when we see a butterfly we say to each other look there is grandpa or that's our auntie over there. we see our lost loved ones again in the butterflies. it makes us feel good but it was that because nice is no better because it's easier to give up with the with. mexico is preparing to celebrate the sad and yet jovial holiday dia de los muertos in two days' time. victor a stout man with a big heart has his hands full. the entire family pitches in and a neighbor makes the tortillas. victor says with some pride this talk of those are the best in mexico city. of kentucky and the long line in his stall would appear to endorse that claim. they can but what do you recommend victor try the company johnno tacos there are specialty. mexicans like a hearty taco. and they package with a sausage. cheese from one pocket that melts into a cream. and then there's more me. it's all topped with fresh snow pollies the can't disprove and plenty of sumatra. and which salsa do you recommend you go for the red one it's the spiciest. i like it a bit spicy but you mexicans of course can handle a lot more right. than those a bit of the person that we give salt to to our kids so they get used to the spicy news from an early age for us there is no day without sauce. even if the spiciness gives us an upset stomach look we mexicans are modern doors we simply keep on eating. a lot of it is easy but. there's no elegant way to eat a taco it's simply a cornucopia of indulgence muvico very tasty if it is spicy. victor gets all the ingredients he needs around the corner mexico's markets are a celebration of the fullness and freshness of life. but on the day of the dead mexican celebrate something else as well as the morbid fascination with down. at their home in the countryside victor and his wife imelda have set up an altar for relatives who have passed on but it's a tradition. that. the candle we say this is for you my sister anita will. be candle there's the name of someone who has died. it's important to provide things that they loyalty would have for example so they can have a drink when they arrive to visit and this. put him. with my sister in law like tequila so we've also put out a bottle of tequila. and sweet things of course which the dead in mexico savor as much as the living. bread sprinkled with lots of sugar. colorful skulls made from pure sugar cane sorry. three generations into an old pickup truck. at the cemetery the entire extended family decorates the grave of imelda sister in law who died a year ago. good luck was her husband victor's brother is overcome by grief. his wife. her mother was only forty seven but the day is not dominated by sadness. it's something that he could have it. was often it's a joyous festival it has to me because life is short lived with the limbs that all that and one day will have to go to. see but i'm proud of the life i lead now and the like and i'm happy when people come to my stand to eat tacos and leave satisfied and hopefully to return again soon in the us. in the evening the smell of incense walked across the graves like a scene in of iraq painting. or and right behind the cemetery wall people are again cooking and eating like they seem to do everywhere in this country life and death pleasure and pain. they're never far apart in mexico. the following morning victor and his family are back on the street setting up their stand. they've altered their dead now life goes on. to take. in the mothers of those one day will be gone but my sons should carry on here and if they do a better job than me all the better. people always need something to eat naturally were no exceptions. and. death is part of life in mexico. but as victor would say as long as we're here we might as well eat the best tacos in town. mexicans live life to the full and that's not always possible for people here in colombia how to see where the fish are posing miguel munoz is fifty six years old he has eleven children and twenty one grandchild through to get along is of experience where you have to know how to handle the rope that's the key thing is how you spot a real body certo. arrows when they call you on the feet of the oh yes the chase what you call this type of fishing and to fish like this you need to control the rope otherwise you're nobody chettle with it yeah well. the whole family pulls together here literally fathers brothers uncles nephews the rope is two to three hundred metres long. not too fast not too slow the fishermen need to be acute to the rock that's the secret. and that is how the volage arrows of carter haina bring in the fish always hoping for a catch for a team a net. and johnny was shot. last. from the sea into the frying pan and from then into the bucket. from the bucket to the customer a squeeze of lime and it's ready to eat. supply afai outstrips the amount concertina street team his friend has. for one of. the hamas. laws that each one carries the way to peace passed through the city streets. like francisco that in terror of the coffee man. every day he makes his rounds about town there are hundreds of vendors like him hawking coffee pouring and refueling the more often the better obviously if you don't sell you won't survive. francisco is not from car to haymarket his hometown is a few hundred kilometers away. and i thought if we will. we have to leave our village because of the violence the war between government troops and the rebels. we had to flee to save our lives the lives of our families and children we left everything behind me that none of the will leave you to have a dad i am and always will be a former. member of the eagle libya i mean every day i go down on my knees and pray that we'll be able to return to our fields but the war in colombia and was once and for all and. the peace deal has failed to hold financing colombia and until it does francisco is staying here in qatar haina serving cabinet seato a small coffee that's a staple of the colombian diamond fast and easy powdered sugar water changes there's no more magic to it than that business is so sad. oh yeah i don't want my kids to be doing this they need proper jobs of course and see how they want to think out that little even if it means they'll never return with me to the village and to our field. anything i'm not they going to will be. caught again or the queen of the caribbean a dream destination for cruise ships and independent travelers. just fifty kilometers outside of the city and well it looks quite different. sunbeds sileo de palenque a well life can be bitter but the food is sweet. pollyanna and manuela make a sticky dessert out of coconut milk and a whole lot of sugar they've never seen the recipe written down but often heard it talked about. isn't that they are parents and grandparents showed us everything we watched and learned from them. have been there more that it isn't so easy not everyone knows how to make it. about anyone without writs out additions they know how. that is the. most residents of palanker are descendants of runaway slaves who founded the community as a refuge four hundred years ago locals say it was the first independent community in the americas a place with a rich past to make a future that's the impression you get walking its streets. and not a place that's easy to leave with their homemade goods when they are not in one way or set out for car to hannah. whatever else the sisters need for the day they pick up on arrival in the city and this is where any romanticism about the traditions of their ancestors and. the fruit in a supermarket they say is simply fresh air. business is slow in sweets and fruit. but a photograph with a colorful palin keris that something tourists will pay for. in peru norman hope has been passed down through the ages. it doesn't sound flattering when the people of lame out remark of their city its sky has the color of a donkey stomach but maybe it should be seen as a declaration of love the cool waters of the peru current lap the shores of lima they don't just bring fog they also deliver the freshest pacific fish to the capital's doorstep. the fact that we also find a dish that is so simple and wonderful it quickly makes you forget the grey skies. amid the fish stalls of a district that is poor and sometimes dangerous you find the best city check at dawn you have been here stand. you'll say yes i know the proper way to prepare i don't make anything else i wouldn't be able to sell anything else was. raw fish from the roadside yes it's fine at least if you buy it from don you're very. salt and hot chili as are added to the fresh fish the juice of peruvian limes alters the protein in the fish effectively cooking it without heat. she serves it with corn sweet potatoes and seagrass. don't have the heene years to feature tastes cool and fresh like the pacific earthy and sharp like the andes she's modest about her talent. so much as a single mother my daughters are in college i have to work so we can live and they can study it. is it tough. well you know how life is. look i want my daughters to have a better life that's all. you know anything she doesn't go anywhere without her family photos people. are going to know when i tell you we love. them is that this is it but. i ran away from home when my parents separated i didn't get along great with my mother but then i came to lima and was alone i had to fend for myself. after her husband left her it was the fish that secured her livelihood. for peruvians is more than just a dish they wager a bet sons of each day reconcile disputes over save each other and swap anecdotes about severe. years you are you'll be up. as a child i often rode my bike to the beach where a man's soul to be checked. he wanted to know whether i want to expire or not he got back then people thought he was dangerous unhygenic to eat at the street corner at that but for me it was like here to the most fascinating movie in the world of us you know that one that. if it weren't for his escape to the beach guest on our curio may well have become a lawmaker like his father but luckily he pursued a career as a chef and may well be one of the world's best his fish dishes embody peruvian history that is there is a reaching this is the original city joke on sisters chili salt fish it's the bond between the ocean and the mountains and a love story between the pacific and the ending slowly. that's because one of the key ingredients grows far away from the coast in the rugged wilderness of the andes. at an altitude of three thousand meters above sea level lies the sacred valley of the incas. valley so fertile it was a personal possession of the ruling family. the incas were the first to plant ricotta here. this almost magical chili pepper is still readily available today at markets in the mountains. you see this is because it is healthy when the body always needs something sweet and salty but i eat to help fight infections which is a scam and seeds are nice and toss. it out. rococo and salt preserve the fish a process that in ancient times insureds of each year could also be enjoyed in the highlands. relays a fast running couriers ferry the fish from the pacific coast to the n.d.s. . after their bloody conquests the spanish built churches and palaces on the ruins of the inca civilization. they also changed the local fish dish by adding lime juice and red onion. for star chef best on our curio civvy chase sums up the best of her room. and its recent rise as a major cullen ery export has made peruvians proud. foodies around the world are crazy for civvies. least so we church it's a recipe that our grandmothers have passed down through the centuries those offices away for a long time we didn't value it but that has changed today peruvian cuisine is famous the world over nice stuff but it's in the record. in lima don't you the heene yes starts the second half of her day. she's babysitting her young grandchild. goes a d.j. is what keeps her family together. and maybe one day she hopes proves national dish will help her fulfill a dream. act but i'm an asshole who left i lurk here on the street it was the nationally would like to find out. lots and had our own restaurant. that's what we all want something bigger something better something good. that i'll. warn from the scene mature in the end and loved by star chefs and street vendors. norman is much more than just a dish it's a way of life. i like that i'm sure that something will encounter in argentina too . there's a specific vibe here. if your desire. for meat the way to a man's heart is through his stomach naturally. no way. there's no obvious sign of an economic crisis when his artists at least not at first glance but the city has been gripped by economic malaise for many years the locals do their best to ignore it. they say here mind has its ups and downs but it's a city that needs to be experienced arrived in a taxi is a good way of exploring even more so when someone like cloudy how is your driver someone who takes you along from all the know right. now we are. going to meet up with the guys we always get together midday. twenty thirty taxi drivers are merely toes grow. they're more relaxed a bit have a bite to eat wash our cars share some of the jokes and drink moderately. the book . is cloudy oh he's fifty nine years. has four kids grandkids italian roots a third generation immigrant family. cloudier likes to enjoy himself he has no pretenses this is how his mates know him and like him. argentinians are passionate people and they indulge their passion for good food and good meat to the forest the world's biggest cattle market is located in the heart of one is ours it couldn't be anywhere else this is where you will really grasp the essence of the country cloudy hotels argentina seoul and argentina stop. saucer. shops schnitzel rum steak why did i see cut before my eyes on the grill in the oven oh die for. that's the best you can buy the animals are nervous they see what's going . on the first auction took place one hundred fifteen years ago and the rules have remained unchanged ever since it is up above. the cattle down below. up to ten thousand animals under the hammer each day the best quality is available for less than two euros. in a country with an insatiable appetite for steak the business with beef is always brisk. at times the government has helped out with subsidize because many task to be affordable a full stomach is less likely to complain about crises. i don't want to try it anything else would be a mistake char it so meat off the grill. delicately seasoned straight from the cattle market and it's open at canteen. time and again on this trip we were generously invited to dine with our hosts. i'm waiting for you a kilometer marker one o five. we're on our way. about time our paths cross again. we've traveled thousands of kilometers through the world street kitchens now to camp our adventure a final chapter that couldn't be any moral fantic out on the compound with account chose the cattle ranchers with the wind blows but there's no rush what better place to wrap up this long journey no one is a stranger here for long and that's certainly down to the fair to. argentina is very diverse but you're all united by a love of meat. absolutely meat was always and is always available we have an endless supply of cattle in the past they used the skins for leather and just at the tongue at least according to legend but there's never been a shortage of meat and nobody in the go hungry here argentinean meat is considered the best in the world or i would go. i got an attic and no no noise because you're absolutely no question about it when i get there and here in the countryside you get the very best only organic top quality the catalona you don't grasp no additives nothing bad. yes it is good. the barbecue the meat. the wine. but they could serve us who knows what. we'd probably find it delicious because food always tastes good in company a simple insight not a bad one tina is a good place for such reflection. the food on the road to go or on the spot. from east to west through asia. from north to south across the american continent so many countries sent many kitchens so many people the stories that could hardly be more diverse but there are things that unite them and us and that's good well being a recipe for life. climate change. sustainability. environmental friendships. globalization effect biodiversity species conservation exploitation inequality. human rights displacement. of the 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Commentary, newsmaker interviews and panel discussions. trump tower meeting for over a year. it ended up being a meeting about adoption. we know donald trump jr. was told they might have information on hillary. president trump tweeted as much way back over a year ago, july july 2017, if any of these sheep in the media would ever do any work, they are lazy, they are overpaid. most politicians, he tweeted over a year ago, would have gone to a meeting like the one don jr. attended in order to get info on an opponent. that's politics. and in september of 2017 "the new york times" reporting "donald trump jr. told senate investigators that he set up a june 2016 meeting with a russian lawyer because he was intrigued that she might have damaging information about hillary clinton. sadly in an effort to malign president trump, your friends -- not really -- in the mainstream media, they forgot even their own reporting. their own reporting. that's how bad they are. that's how desperate they are to get the democrats back in power in 92 days. for example, one "new york times" correspondent tweeted "what an astonishing, brazen admission after more than a year of denials by the president and his staff." "huffington post" ran with the headline "trump finally admits his campaign colluded with russia at trump tower meeting." trump appears to change story on meeting with russian lawyer. naturally the famed moral outrage of the day was even worse on your fake, phony networks and so-called news competitors of hours. take a look. >> everything you heard from every white house representative there was a lie. >> not only was it a conspiracy to defraud. he's aiding and abetting and undermining an interesting sorts of ways of our democratic society. >> are reporting, despite what the president tweeted in response to it, very much is that he's worried about don jr. he has expressed that worry to the people that he's been talking to on the phone. he's been privately brooding over this. >> he says he knew about the meeting, that almost certainly means donald jr. lied in front of congress and i think that would almost certainly mean that donald junior would get indicted. >> on a random sunday morning tweet, and admission of lying and something that starts to get the dictionary if not legal definition of collusion. >> as if it's starting -- it continues to make your hair her trying to follow it all. >> then there is the next level, michael cohen says the president knew. so the president says i didn't know. does that add another level to the conspiracy? >> sean: it's like a competition. dumb, dumber, dumbest, they are all in the same category. this treatment by this medium to this president, duly elected by you, the american people's, beyond disgusting. meanwhile you have no liquor and liar, congressman shift joining his friends in the media -- we have a great tape we will play for you in a second. also weighing in with fake feigned moral outrage of his own. by the way, he got nailed on cbs. he doesn't have any evidence, none. 18 months in, nine, zero, zip. take a look. >> can you agree that there has been no evidence of collusion, coordination or conspiracy that has been presented thus far between the trump campaign and russia? >> no, i don't agree with that at all. i think there's plenty of evidence of collusion or conspiracy in plain sight. >> sean: where is it? we've been looking for a long time. you have evidence of collusion. russia collusion in plain sight. let's look at adam schiff. he could easily be talking about himself. remember when he tried to dig up dirt on president trump from his own russian sources? it turns out he was being cranked by a russian radio compromise and material? >> of course. >> thank you very much. we will be back in touch with you through our staff to make arrangements to obtain these materials for our committee and for the fbi and i appreciate you reaching out to us. >> collusion, conspiracy, russians, tape, proof. where is the media outrage over the attempt to collude and conspire with russia? or is it only a crime if a republican is trying to dig up political dirt and opposition research on an opponent? this time we have the tape of the whole thing. imagine if we had a tape of the meeting and trump tower. that was about russian adoption. as you can see how corrupt our media is and just so happy to rehash an old phony scandal. literally a dead end meeting about adoption with a russian attorney who happened to meet with fusion gps before and after the meeting, sidebar, but couldn't care less about we have another case of collusion with evidence. if the clinton campaign. funneling money through a law firm, the dnc funneling money through a law firm to hire a foreign spy. oh. to dig up what came out to be russian lies, propaganda, debunked lies about president trump and then fed it to you, the american people to steal an election. and it became the bulk of the information in a fisa warrant that was used four times to spy on an american citizen as part of the opposition party campaign in an election year. we are talking about christopher steele, hillary clinton's dirty dossier with russian lies, bought and paid for by the clintons, the democrats, to purposely lie to you, the american people. why? because they didn't care what they said, how many lies they told because they wanted to steal an election and they still lost with totally absurd untrue claims from russia like this that sounds like collusion and a conspiracy to me and still the media wonders why the american people don't trust them. they wonder why you shout "you suck." do you know why? because they do suck. they have a political agenda. they are politically driven. they hate this president and at all costs have been trying, continue to try to destroy him, his kids, his sons, his daughter, his 12-year-old kid, his wife and literally anybody that's friends with them. do any of these people in the media that lied again and got caught again, do they ever care how much better off this country is doing? 14 states record low unemployment. record low unemployment, hispanic americans, african-americans, asian-americans and our brave vets that are out now getting in the workplace. millions fewer on food stamps, 4 million new jobs, more manufacturing jobs that obama told us was never coming back. tonight also we have another blow to their credibility, this one comes to a scare of "the new york times." right there, meet the newest member of the newspaper's editorial board, her name is sarah. for years she tweeted dozens of statements about race and white people. she used a hashtag "cancel white people." she openly wondered if white people were only fit to live underground like groveling goblins. she tweeted that she gets "joy out of being cruel to old white men." she also trashed all men and the police, frequently writing f the police. and of course she has also expressed her hatred for president trump, shocking's, she works at "the new york times." "i was equating him to hitler before it was cool." there are literally other -- "the new york times" doesn't care. they know about this, they still hired her and her rigorously now defending her their decision te her. i know some of you will be angry. on this program we never call for boycotts, we never say that people should be fired or lose their jobs. i'm not going to start tonight. i'm going to be consistent because it's always conservatives that they really want fired. but "the new york times," the paper of record? this is disgusting beyond words. if you, the american people, the american consumers, you always have the power not to read it, to turn the dial, not read the newspaper or whatever else they put out, but this reveals yet another example of what is a blatant, corrupt double standard in the destroy-trump media. if "the new york times" frequently peddles identity politics. they totally gloss over stories in some cases if it doesn't fit their political agenda. they always want to target the president, target conservatives and target republicans. where were all of these groups that are literally paid millions and millions and millions of dollars a year to monitor conservatives on talk radio, rush, mark, me, laura. anybody on the fox news channel that gives opinion, labeled opinion, for boycotts and firings? they are silent tonight because they are hypocrites too. to prove this point a friend of this program, conservative activist candace owens. she equated verbatim the exact same tweets from "the new york times" new hire but switched out the word white for another race. she was promptly banned from twitter and after much outcry her account was reinstated. they figured out that she was making a point and twitter apologized for "the error." it brings us to our next story that involves yet another scary example of the left's so-called resistance to trump allies all over the country. the very person who was banned and unbanned from twitter, candace owens, her colleague, charlie kirk. eating breakfast in philadelphia kind of like pam bondi, secretary nielsen. let's see, and sarah sanders. an angry mob of far left protesters literally ran them out of the restaurant and needed police assistance. watch this. >> [inaudible] >> sean: assaulted. they will both join us later in the program tonight for an exclusive interview and we will show you everything that went down. the left-wing intolerance is so out of control and i have a warning, it's only going to get worse as the most important midterms in our lifetime and 92 days gets closer and closer. meanwhile, one local democrat in chicago is putting politics aside, desperately, rightly trying to rescue his city for what has been a wave of violence that has been devastating his hometown since obama began his presidency. watch this. >> i represent a community on the west side at the government allows drugs and gangs to dominate those communities where senior citizens and children are held hostage. held hostage in her home, hostage in their community and they can't enjoy the liberties that are afforded to them by everyone else that is unacceptable and we need the president's help in chicago. the mayor, he must take away the thought that chicago is a trump-free zone. taxpayers deserve to have the president come in and bring resources to the community. we need to make sure that the billions of dollars that we send to washington comes back in the mayor should be working closely with trump. >> sean: this has to be a tipping point. our national treasure, our children. over 70 shot, 12 killed, dozens of others fighting for their lives. a city with a gang violence epidemic that seems never endin ending. where's rahm emanuel? he can't curtail violent crime? if he can't do it, step aside or at the very least ask for help from the president, talk to rudy giuliani. he fixed new york city. the lives of our children are at stake here. law-abiding citizens are held hostage and getting killed. we've got to stop it. i do hope the president sees what's happening and is able to step in and help the city of chicago and help save some lives. we will monitor that and give you updates as the situation unfolds, but first we got to return to the middle east, the president's strategy of peace through strength is in full swing. iran is now being held accountable, thankfully. the president today announcing that the tough nuclear deal sanctions finally will be reinstated against this rogue regime that chants "death to america." the sanctions effectively prevent many national companies from conducting business with iran and is not likely to be lifted in less iran halts their aggressive hostile actions, funding proxy wars and being the number one funding country of global terrorism and of course to end their pursuit of nuclear weapons. the constant threats to the united states into israel. a lot of news tonight. we still have a lot to get to. joining us now with reaction, the author of the number one "new york times" best seller, the russian hoax in the illicit scheme to? to my clear hillary clinton, gregg jarrett and the author of why we fight, fox news national security strategist dr. sebastian gorka. doctor, let me start with you, let's start with the big latest lie of the media. they all went with it, they never did their research and they all basically like sheep follow each other. >> it's remarkable, sean. it shows you how they have nothing. let's be very clear, hopefully they are taking notes. there is no crime to meet with a foreign national to obtain opposition research. especially when it turns out that that individual took that meeting under false pretenses. however, it is a crime, it is a crime, to engage somebody at the cost of millions of dollars who is not a foreign registered agent but at the same time as a former intelligence officer, that's christopher steele, and to use his russian propaganda material as the grounds for a surveillance warrant in a fisa court. greg can give you all the chapters, all the code, but that is a crime. for the last 430 days we have had zero evidence connecting the president to russia and i'm going to say now on the record, they will never find any because there isn't any. >> sean: they haven't and the fact is i played the tape of adam schiff. it's very hard to say on tv, it's a very risky move, but in all seriousness, okay. he's talking to a russian. he's getting opposition research that he hopes will kill off the president politically and then we got hillary's phony dossier. the media ignores at all, greg. this is beyond corrupt and they will destroy the president and his family in the process with no compunction whatsoever. >> there is no fairness and equivalency. i was amazed today when "the new york times" in their front page story declared without any evidence, without citing any statute, that it was illegal, that prompt our meeting. i will cite the law. the federal campaign election act specifically says a foreign national may volunteer services, attend meetings and provide information. it is not and never has been considered a thing of value under our election laws. what is a thing of value is paying a foreigner, as hillary clinton did, for information on donald trump. >> sean: didn't we learn the fbi also paid him? which we suspected? now we know. >> that's right. and the payment by hillary establishes it as a thing of value, making it illegal. as we learned last friday, judicial watch through a lawsuit of paying documents. >> sean: 11 payments. >> which shows that christopher steele was not only on the payroll of hillary clinton, but for seven months before the trump-russia case was officially launched, he was on the fbi's payroll receiving 11 payments. >> sean: last word. >> you mentioned one thing that needs to be repeated, this private lawyer was briefed by fusion gps before and after the meeting in trump tower so this could have been a set up from the get-go. >> sean: thank you both. important. a live report, other breaking news, the manafort trial and more house intelligence committee chair devin nunes and, yes, candace owens and charlie kirks, stay right there. -i've seen lots of homes helping new customers bundle and save big, but now it's time to find my dream abode. -right away, i could tell his priorities were a little unorthodox. -keep going. stop. a little bit down. stop. back up again. is this adequate sunlight for a komodo dragon? 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does he get it jake done might get out of jail free card just to say whatever he wants to say against his former partner? >> he pled guilty to lying to federal investigators so that's going to be a big problem from him when there's cross-examination. which story are we to believe? use told them one thing, now we get another thing. >> sean: did he get a deal? >> absolutely. >> sean: if you say this we will give you know jail time or something? >> he's already gotten a deal. he already pled and he's cooperating with the special counsel, that is why he is their "star witness." the question is going to be whether his credibility is believed. nothing that rick gates is saying gets out to where this investigation started, which was collusion. it's about bank fraud, tax charges. >> sean: thank you, i won't drag you into my commentary, ed henry, thank you. how is that different from sammy the bull? admits, they know he killed 19 people. 19. no jail time. witness protection program, a new house and a new life. is the murderer not going to say whatever you want? this is a process that is wrong. we will deal with this in the future. also today, daily caller. sara carter reporting the doj is refusing to preserve work-related emails from the former fbi director jim comey's private accounts. i wonder if they do that for you or me. we reached out to the doj for comment, they declined. here with more reaction, california congressman devin nunes, who frankly deserves the medal of freedom for really showing sadly the biggest abuse of power and corruption scandal. let's just get your general take on everything, where we are and what is important now. >> thank you, sean and thanks for having me on again. really where we are at, a lot of people ask what's left? we still have information that we need from the department of justice. i will say as of tonight we are getting closer and closer to having the information that we need. >> sean: tell us why. >> they are provided -- they have allowed -- all the issues that were in our subpoena they have now -- either we've been able to review, our investigators have been able to review what they have been delivered to the committee in one form or fashion or another. let's put that aside, there is still more that has to be done and we are a month late. so where are we? we talked about this last week. we have at least 20 pages of the fisa -- the fisa warrant that went after carter page. we have about 20 pages that the house republicans have asked several months ago for the president and his office to declassify. we need that declassified. senator grassley secondly asked for the bruce ohr for 302. bruce ohr is going to become more and more important. >> sean: explain the 302. it's an official report. where they altered? >> so the fbi interviewed bruce or at least a dozen times and put together reports. so once they fired christopher steele, which at that point they should've not been meeting with him anymore but what they had is they have bruce ohr, whose wife was working for fusion gps was going to meet and still get the information for christopher steele as they were trying to verify this unverified dossier or the clinton dirt that was used to get the fisa warrant. that's number two. number three, there is exculpatory evidence that we have seen, classified documents that need to be declassified. >> sean: exculpatory in nature in what way? exculpatory in what way? >> in that the carter page fisa when the judges should have been presented with this exculpatory evidence that the fbi and doj had. so those are the three areas that we have left in terms of what we need declassified. >> sean: rumors on top of that of a tape and potentially intel servers involvement in all of this? is there any truth to that? >> that i think it's to the origins of the investigation, which we still are unclear on on whether or not -- we know that the australian diplomat that was serving in london -- we were told that it was five eyes intelligence that was used to go after papadopoulos. but we discovered in our investigation is there was no intelligence and in fact the australian diplomat doesn't even make any sense. in the big picture, we need these documents declassified. that has to get done. >> sean: i'm running out of time and i want to get this in. this is really important. i just played the tape, the april 2017 tape of your colleague, adam schiff -- i won't add my commentary to your comments, and it sounds like he's colluding with russians for dirt on donald trump and wasn't the phone a dossier that hillary and the dnc paid for, wasn't that full of russian lies, and it was used to misinform the american people to get a fisa warrant is your memo pointed out, the grassley memo pointed out, the bulk of information for the fisa? >> look, if they would have been up to the democrats, they were in on this from the beginning, so was the media. the media and 2016 had all this information too so they know that this information was being generated by the clinton campaign. you had doj, fbi, all of those cast of characters that were meeting regularly with christopher steele, bruce ohr, the number four at the department of justice who i think is going to become a more and more important figure in this and a lot of the investigative reporters should be looking closer at bruce ohr. >> sean: appreciate your time. soon, maybe this week. the rumors i'm hearing. good to see you, please come back. the left targeting conservatives continues. despicable, disgusting. we will speak to victims this weekend. charlie kirk, candace owens harassed, they were having breakfast in philadelphia. earlier today, this tape is so bad, we will get to that and greg gutfeld straight ahead. ♪ when you rent from national... so no matter what, you're guaranteed to have a perfect drive. [laughter] (vo) go national. go like a pro. see what i did there? ♪ >> sean: earlier this morning friends of this program, charlie kirk and candace owens were brutally harassed by far left protesters. they were having breakfast at a philadelphia coffee shop. watch this. >> [inaudible] 30 minutes, at least 50 of them came into the restaurant and started calling candace a nazi, i can't figure how they would come to that conclusion. >> sean: there were racial comments. >> this was a primarily black police force. if there was only one white police officer, the rest were black and hispanic, they called us race traders, they were staying at the police and that all police are racist and fight that this was an all white group, antifa facing an all black police force and myself. >> sean: i did notice that you both kept her cool and you stayed out. not going to go back in. i would probably come if i was there, i would have stayed out because i was a lunatic but it would have advised you to go inside. you felt it was important. >> they drove us out of the restaurant and candace and i said let's just stand here for a couple minutes and show them that we are not going to back down. very peacefully we are not going to retaliate if things get thrown at us. we don't want to play the victim card here, that's what the left does all the time. this is what's called on by maxine waters. >> sean: get in their face, get in their face in grocery stores, in the mall if i remember correctly. >> in restaurants. this is maxine waters' america. we thought it was an important moment to show america exactly what we are fighting because not many people understand this is real. they have grown increasingly violent because they understand they are losing. >> sean: when i first met you i did say what charlie said, he thinks he discovered you. she was a star in the making. i did say i saw a great future for both of you, to be fair. has it been a lot of this? >> when they are expecting us, yes. if we are on campus is of course, if we are going to give a talk anywhere of course but this was unusual because we weren't at a trump rally, we weren't on a campus, we were simply having coffee in a coffee shop. >> sean: so sad. sarah sanders kids thrown out of a restaurant. i don't talk about it. i know the left -- i said last week i would be the first to jump in if i'm at an event and anybody laid a hand on even jim acosta i train an hour and a half a day mixed martial arts. i fight and it's real fighting and i would defend anybody, but it's not the same if you are using words. here they actually chased you out of the restaurant and you are physically really assaulted. >> that's correct. and we made the decision not to press charges because we are not going to try to do with the left would do and try to create martyrs. at what we want to do is focus on as a warning sign to the american people that if the democrats take back congress, you are going to be electing these radicals. >> sean: those of the people that want to impeach the president, open borders, eliminate eyes, keep obamacare. they want these investigations to stop. >> that's exactly right. they had a bullhorn and they were very close to my face screaming in my ear. reminiscent of the civil rights era. this is what you would expect in the civil rights era if a black woman was dining at a restaurant. >> sean: it seems that race comes up a lot because you happen to be conservative and you happen to be an african-american. >> that's correct. >> sean: remember i mentioned the book. google my name in the most horrific names come up. >> liberals believe that they own blacks. they believe they're something proprietary about being black in this country and if you deviate from the way they want you to think in the way they want you to act they grow violent. >> sean: it's changing. did you see the fall, rasmussen? >> i did. i said there's going to be a major black exit from the democratic party because we are starting to figure it out, we're looking at the history, which they have wiped and we are realizing that the democratic party was always racist. >> sean: record low unemployment, 14 states. that's good for our fellow citizens. >> all americans. >> sean: what happened in chicago, to dovetail. if we don't declare this a national emergency that literally our american families being gunned down in the streets and nobody's doing anything to help our national treasure. >> because they are not illegal aliens. if these were illegal alien children that were gunned down, separated because they lost their fathers they would be outraged. >> sean: but nobody wants separation of children and donald trump fix that. but people shot in the weekend. >> with the strictest gun laws in america. >> no celebrity's came out talking about this whatsoever and it's because these were americans. >> sean: you both are very brave and courageous. thank you both for being here. greg gutfeld, he has a lot to say next. only aleve targets tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. aleve back & muscle. all day strong. all day long. chicken! that's right, chicken?! candace-- new chicken creations from starkist. buffalo style chicken in a pouch-- bold choice, charlie! just tear, eat... mmmmm. and go! try all of my chicken creations! chicken! >> sean: here now is a good friend of the program, author of the brand-new book, it's called "the god felt monologues: classic grants from "the five"." when i first met you -- you can shake my hand. >> i didn't know if you're going to -- >> sean: don't start. when i first met you, you are like a little quirky. then i realized how funny you are. you have a comedic mind. >> i didn't come from comedy. i was a magazine editor. i don't think anybody expected -- >> sean: you edited maxim? >> in england. it didn't last very long but i still did it. i don't think people expected that i was either political or that i had any other thoughts other than primitive male instincts and that i was weird, and i am. i'm happy to be weird. >> sean: you did redeye and the show kicked -- from day one i was always a fan of "the five," i thought the show was genius and the ratings were astronomical. you don't have in this business a hit show on day one. you guys had a hit show on day one. >> it was natural chemistry and improvisational conversation. where everybody knew what somebody else was going to talk because the problem with cable tv -- people start your sentence when you are in the middle of yours. on "the five" we all said and we are going to say what we say and it's the perfect hour for television. you have a cocktail, we are on. i did a book tour on saturday. people think they know you because they do. when they see you they go you are in my living room every day. you say what i want to say. that's why fox has a huge audience. >> sean: the monologue is a part of the show and i like that part of the show. if you are very irreverent, very politically incorrect. a little unpredictable politically, but that's what makes the show so good. you've got you, dana, jesse, everybody -- everyone has a different point of view. and it's just the back and forth, intelligent, smart, fun, funny conversation. >> the goal is to say something that hasn't been set already and that's a challenge because at 5:00 you've artie had nine or ten hours or 9:00. what i try to do -- this is my secret, i pretend i'm at a bar because generally when you were at a bar -- >> sean: i've been to a bar with you. not easy to keep up in a bar with this guy. >> i've pulled back a little bit, nothing but red wine. if you pretend you are mildly drunk, which is what i do, you listen in squares in your head into actually come up with stuff you haven't said before. >> sean: that's the mind of a comedian. tell us about the book, you've taken the best of the monologue monologues. >> what i did as i critique my own writing so everyone of these is, where i'm wrong i will say when i'm wrong, when i think i'm cliched i will say that and then i update stuff because a lot of these monologues were pre2016, bt, before trumps on trying to update what happened. there's a huge section here on terra. we don't talk about terror that much anymore, why? because isis -- knock on glass, but it's changed. >> sean: i know you had a great book tour so far, the book is in bookstores everywhere. congrats on the success of the show, you are a great colic. >> i appreciate it. >> sean: rush limbaugh sounds off on what the democrats are really running on in 2018. his insight, his commentaryha n next. prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. why people everywhere are upgrading their water filter to zerowater. start with water that has a lot of dissolved solids. pour it through brita's two-stage filter. dissolved solids remain? what if we filter it over and over? 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by the way, in moments we are going to prove it to you. we will call out the fake crisis paddlers that are the so-called news media in his country and by the way on the left, they all seemingly want this president to fail. that's sad at all costs because they want democrats back in power.k we have more information surrounding "the new york times" newest hire, so-called journalist, so-called record, long history of makingng despicable, disgusting comments, racist comments against people because of race, men, and f the police. we will explain. we have one more shocking example of conservatives being targeted by far left agitators and we will address the situation out of chicago, 71 people shot this weekend alone. 12 dead and dozens more fighting for their lives. rahm, where are you? obama, you had eight years, why did you not fix this? and finally the u.s. reissued otvery tough sanctions finally against the regime in iran. Commentary, newsmaker interviews and panel discussions. meanwhile, you have no leaker or liar, congressman adam schiff joining his friends in the media -- we have a great tape we will play for you in a second. also weighing in with fake feigned moral outrage of his own. by the way, he got nailed on cbs. he doesn't have any evidence, none. 18 months in, nine, zero, zip. take a look. >> can you agree that there has been no evidence of collusion, coordination or conspiracy that has been presented thus far between the trump campaign and russia? >> no, i don't agree with that at all. i think there's plenty of evidence of collusion orme conspiracy in plain sight. >> sean: where is it? we've been looking for a long time. you have evidence of collusion. russia collusion in plain sight. let's look at adam schiff. he could easily be talking about himself. remember when he tried to dig up dirt on president trump from his own russian sources? it turns out he was being prank by a russian radio personality.y. he thought he was talking with the russians. a conspiracy, collusion with the russians and we actually, mr. mueller, we have evidence. >> listen to this. >> he was in moscow in november 2013. he met with a journalist. >> she's a poor journalist. but anyway, she became famous because of putin's godfather. >> putin's godfather. okay. >> she is also known as a person who provided girls for escort and she met with trump and she brought him a russian girl celebrity, also known as a person with a strange reputation. >> and how do you spell her name mike >> what's the nature of that? >> there were pictures of naked trump. >> so putin was made aware of the availability of the compromise and material? >> of course. >> thank you very much. we will be back in touch with you through our staff to makeha arrangements to obtain these materials for our committee and for the fbi and i appreciate you reaching out too us. >> collusion, conspiracy, russians, tape, proof. where is the media outrage over the attempt to collude and conspire with russia? or is it only a crime if a republican is trying to dig up political dirt and opposition research on an opponent? this time we have the tape of the whole thing. imagine if we had a tape of the meeting and trump tower. ou that was about russian adoption. as you can see how corrupt our media is and just so happy toa rehash an old phony scandal. literally a dead end meeting about adoption with a russian attorney who happened to meet with fusion gps before and after the meeting, sidebar, but couldn't care less about we have another case of collusion with evidence. if the clinton campaign. funneling money through a law firm, the dnc funneling money through a law firm to hire a foreign spy. oh. to dig up what came out to be russian lies, propaganda, debunked lies about president trump and then fed it to you, the american people to steal an election. and it became the bulk of the information in a fisa warrant that was used four times to spy on an american citizen as part of the opposition party campaign in an election year. we are talking about christopher steele, hillary clinton's dirty dossier with russian lies, bought and paid for by the clintons, the democrats, to purposely lie to you, the american people. why? because they didn't care what they said, how many lies they told because they wanted to steal an election and they still lost with totally absurd untrue claims from russia like this one. trump's perverted conduct in kscow included hiring the presidential suite in the ritz-carlton hotel where he knew president, mrs. obama had stayed on one of their official trips to russia and defiling the bed where they had slept by employing a number of prostitues and performing golden showers. showers. in front of him. and then interrogatory where the threat of perjury was put to christopher steele, he did say the following. that was just raw intelligence. i don't know if that's true at all. 50/50. where's the media outrage? that was used to get a warrant to spy on americans. where's the outrage against the clinton campaign? literally paying for lies to lie to you, the american people. literally to rig an election that obviously used paid for russian lies. that sounds like collusion and a conspiracy to me and still the media wonders why the american people don't trust them. they wonder why you shout "you suck." do you know why? because they do suck. they have a political agenda. they are politically driven. they hate this president and at all costs have been trying, continue to try to destroy him, his kids, his sons, his daughter, his 12-year-old kid, his wife and literally anybody that's friends with them. do any of these people in theths media that lied again and got caught again, do they ever care how much better off this country is doing? 14 states record low unemployment. record low unemployment, hispanic americans, african-americans, asian-americans and our brave vets that are out now getting in the workplace.n- millions fewer on food stamps, 4 million new jobs, more manufacturing jobs that obama told us was never coming back. tonight also we have another blow to their credibility, thisa one comes to a scare of "the new york times." right there, meet the newest member of the newspaper's editorial board, her name is sarah. for years she tweeted dozens of statements about race and white people. she used a hashtag "cancel white people." she openly wondered if white people were only fit to live underground like groveling goblins. she tweeted that she gets "joy out of being cruel to old white men." she also trashed all men and the police, frequently writing f the police. and of course she has also expressed her hatred for president trump, shocking's, sh" works at "the new york times." "i was equating him to hitler before it was cool." there are literally other -- "the new york times" doesn't care. l they know about this, they still hired her and her rigorously now defending their decision to hire her. i know some of you will be angry. on this program we never call for boycotts, we never say that people should be fired or lose their jobs. i'm not going to start tonight. i'm going to be consistent because it's always conservatives that they really want fired. but "the new york times," the paper of record? this is disgusting beyond words. if you, the american people, the american consumers, you always have the power not to read it, to turn the dial, not read the newspaper or whatever else they put out, but this reveals yet another example of what is a blatant, corrupt double standard in the destroy-trump media. if "the new york times" frequently peddles identity politics. they totally gloss over stories in some cases if it doesn't fit their political agenda. they always want to target the president, target conservatives and target republicans. where were all of these groups this is disgusting beyond words. if you, the american people, the american consumers, you always have the power not to read it, ellthrn the dial, not read the pe newspaper or whatever else they put out, but this reveals yet another example of what is a blatant, corrupt double standard in the destroy-trump media. if "the new york times" frequently peddles identity politics. they totally gloss over stories in some cases if it doesn't fit their political agenda. they always want to target the president, target conservatives and target republicans. where were all of these groups that are literally paid millions and millions and millions of dollars a year to monitor conservatives on talk radio, rush, mark, me, laura. anybody on the fox news channel that gives opinion, labeled opinion, for boycotts and firings? they are silent tonight because they are hypocrites too. to prove this point a friend of this program, conservativete activist candace owens. she equated verbatim the exact same tweets from "the new york times" new hire but switched out the word white for another race. she was promptly banned from twitter and after much outcry her account was reinstated. they figured out that she was making a point and twitter apologized for "the error." it brings us to our next story that involves yet another scary example of the left's so-called resistance to trump allies all over the country. the very person who was banned and unbanned from twitter, candace owens, her colleague, charlie kirk. eating breakfast in philadelphia kind of like pam bondi, secretary nielsen. let's see, and sarah sanders. an angry mob of far left protesters literally ran them out of the restaurant and needed police assistance. watches this. >> [inaudible] >> sean: assaulted. they will both join us later in the program tonight for an exclusive interview and we will> show you everything that went down. the left-wing intolerance is so down. the left-wing intolerance is so out of control and i have a warning, it's only going to get worse as the most important midterms in our lifetime and 92 days gets closer and closer. i meanwhile, one local democrat in chicago is putting politics aside, desperately, rightly trying to rescue his city fores what has been a wave of violence that has been devastating his hometown since obama began his presidency. watch this. >> i represent a community on h the west side at the government allows drugs and gangs to dominate those communities wherm senior citizens and children are held hostage. held hostage in her home, hostage in their community and they can't enjoy the liberties that are afforded to them by everyone else that is unacceptable and we need the president's help in chicago. the mayor, he must take away the thought that chicago is a trump-free zone. taxpayers deserve to have the president come in and bring resources to the community. we need to make sure that the billions of dollars that we send to washington comes back in the mayor should be working closely with trump. >> sean: this has to be a tipping point. our national treasure, our children. over 70 shot, 12 killed, dozens of others fighting for their lives. a city with a gang violence epidemic that seems never ending. where's rahm emanuel? he can't curtail violent crime? if he can't do it, step aside or at the very least ask for help from the president, talk to rudy giuliani. he fixed new york city. the lives of our children are at stake here. law-abiding citizens are held hostage and getting killed. p've got to stop it. mayor should be working closely with trump. >> sean: this has to be a tipping point. our national treasure, our children.atrsto over 70 shot, 12 killed,tiinou s of others fighting for their lives. a city with a gang violence epidemic that seems neverga ending. where's rahm emanuel? he can't curtail violent crime? if he can't do it, step aside oe at the very least ask for help from the president, talk to rudy giuliani.sk he fixed new york city. the lives of our children are at stake here. law-abiding citizens are held hostage and getting killed. we've got to stop it. i do hope the president sees what's happening and is ablele o step in and help the city of chicago and help save some lives. we will monitor that and give you updates as the situation unfolds, but first we got to return to the middle east, the president's strategy of peace through strength is in full swing. iran is now being held accountable, thankfully. the president today announcing that the tough nuclear deal sanctions finally will be reinstated against this rogue regime that chants "death to america."re the sanctions effectively prevent many national companies from conducting business with iran and is not likely to be lifted in less iran halts their aggressive hostile actions, funding proxy wars and being the number one funding country of global terrorism and of course to end their pursuit of nuclear weapons. the constant threats to the united states into israel. a lot of news tonight. we still have a lot to get to. joining us now with reaction, the author of the number one "new york times" best seller, the russian hoax in the illicits scheme to? to my clear hillaryth clinton, gregg jarrett and the author of why we fight, fox news national security strategist dr. sebastian gorka.n doctor, let me start with you, let's start with the big latest lie of thehe media. they all went with it, they never did their research and they all basically like sheep follow each other. >> it's remarkable, sean. it shows you how they have nothing. let's be very clear, hopefully they are taking notes. there is no crime to meet with a foreign national to obtain opposition research. especially when it turns out that that individual took that meeting under false pretenses. however, it is a crime, it is a crime, to engage somebody at the cost of millions of dollars who is not a foreign registeredd agent but at the same time as a former intelligence officer, that's christopher steele, and to use his russian propaganda material as the grounds for a surveillance warrant in a fisa court. greg can give you all the chapters, all the code, but that is a crime.e, for the last 430 days we have had zero evidence connecting the president to russia and i'm going to say now on the record, they will never find any because there isn't any. >> sean: they haven't and the fact is i played the tape of adam schiff. it's very hard to say on tv, it's a very risky move, but in all seriousness, okay. he's talking to a russian. he's getting opposition research that he hopes will kill off the president politically and then we got hillary's phony dossier. the media ignores at all, greg. this is beyond corrupt and they will destroy the president and his family in the process with no compunction whatsoever. >> there is no fairness and equivalency. i was amazed today when "the new york times" in their front page story declared without any evidence, without citing any statute, that it was illegal, that trumped our meeting. i will cite the law. the federal campaign election act specifically says a foreign national may volunteer services, attend meetings and provide information. it is not and never has been considered a thing of value under our election laws. what is a thing of value is paying a foreigner, as hillary clinton did, for information on donald trump. >> sean: didn't we learn the fbi also paid him? which we suspected? now we know. >> that's right. and the payment by hillary establishes it as a thing of value, making it illegal. as we learned last friday, judicial watch through a lawsuit of paying documents. >> sean: 11 payments. >> which shows that christopher steele was not only on the payroll of hillary clinton, but for seven months before the trump-russia case was officially launched, he was on the fbi's payroll receiving 11 payments. >> sean: last word. >> you mentioned one thing that needs to be repeated, this private lawyer was briefed by fusion gps before and after the meeting in trump tower so this could have been a set up from the get-go. >> sean: thank you both. important. a live report, other breaking news, the manafort trial and more house intelligence committee chair devin nunes and, yes, candace owens and charlie kirks, stay right there. ♪ ♪ come fly with me, let's fly, let's fly away. ♪ ♪ come fly with me, let's fly, let's fly away. ♪ and i'm the founder of ugmonk. before shipstation it was crazy. it's great when you see a hundred orders come in, a hundred orders come in, but then you realize i've got a hundred orders i have to ship out. shipstation streamlined that wh the order data, the weights of , everything is seamlessly put into shipstation, so when we print the shipping ll everything's pretty much done. it's so much easier so now, we're ready, bring on t. shipstation. the number one ch of online sellers. go to shipstation.com/tv and get two months free. you are outside the white house and you are there alone because the president isn't there i don't think. >> that's right, he's in new jersey but you are right that this was kind of a tough day for special counsel robert mueller and his team in court today because remember, judge t.s. eliot back in may said the special counsel he believed really didn't care about paul manafort and this bank fraud and tax evasion charges, that instead he just wanted to get the president, try to get dirt from manafort to either impeach or prosecute the president. judge ellis added again late today lashing out at one of the prosecutors, greg andrews for going on and on about manafort's connection to ukrainian politicians that have nothing to do with the president or the crux of the bank fraud and tax charges against a manafort. judge ellis growing furious when andrews would not look up at the judge while he was speaking. the prosecutor claiming he was looking at documents.s. the judge declared "look at me, don't look down. you look down as if to say that's b.s. i'm up here. if the judge not happy, interesting because ellis warned back in may that what the special counsel might be trying to do is not just get manafort to sing, but get him to compose, meaning either manafort or other witnesses come up with stuff that may or may not be true, as you mentioned rick gates, the star witness testifying today. he admitted to crimes that he committed. let's remember that he is somebody who has admitted to lying to federal investigators, so he has a credibility question and again, none of this gets at alleged russian collusion. a new frenzy that was whipped up d this weekend because of thatpe tweet you mentioned at the top of the show, the president saying that the focus of that trump tower meeting in the summer of 2016 was not about russian adoption, it was about getting dirt on hillary clinton. the problem is the president already mentioned that at a news conference last summer with the french president. >> sean: john don mcgahn jr. mentioned it when he testified. so he admitted to lying. he admitted tote embezzling. did he admit -- what's the deal? does he get a get out of jail freenv card to say whatever he wants to say against his former partner? >> he pled guilty to lying to federal investigators so that's going to be a big problem from him when there's cross-examination. which story are we to believe? use told them one thing, now we get another thing. >> sean: did he get a deal?? >> absolutely. >> sean: if you say this we will give you know jail time or something? >> he's already gotten a deal. he already pled and he's cooperating with the special counsel, that is why he is their "star witness." the question is going to be whether his credibility is believed. nothing that rick gates is saying gets out to where this investigation started, which was collusion. it's about bank fraud, tax charges. >> sean: thank you, i won't drag you into my commentary, ed henry, thank you. how is that different from sammy the bull? admits, they know he killed 19 people. 19. no jail time. witness protection program, a new house and a new life.. is the murderer not going to say whatever you want? this is a process that is wrong. we will deal with this in the future.. also today, daily caller. sara carter reporting the doj is refusing to preserve work-related emails from the former fbi director jim comey'se private accounts. i wonder if they do that for you or me. we reached out to the doj for comment, they declined. here with more reaction, california congressman devinit nunes, who frankly deserves the medal of freedom for really showing sadly the biggest abuse of power and corruption scandal. let's just get your general take on everything, where we are and what is important now. >> thank you, sean and thanks for having me on again. really where we are at, a lot of people ask what's left? we still have information that we need from the department ofpe justice. i will say as of tonight we are getting closer and closer to having the information that we need. >> sean: tell us why. >> they are provided -- they have allowed -- all the issues that were in our subpoena they have now -- either we've been able to review, our investigators have been able to review what they have been delivered to the committee in one form or fashion or another. let's put that aside, there is still more that has to be done o and we are a month late. so where are we? we talked about this last week. we have at least 20 pages of the fisa -- the fisa warrant that went after carter page. we have aboutra 20 pages that te house republicans have asked several months ago for the president and his office to declassify. we need that declassified. senator grassley secondly asked for the bruce ohr fored 302. bruce ohr is going to become more and more important.hr >> sean: explain the 302. it's an official report. where they altered? >> so the fbi interviewed bruce or at least a dozen times and put together reports. so once they fired christopher steele, which at that point they should've not been meeting with him anymore but what they had is they have bruce ohr, whose wife was working for fusion gps was going to meet and still get the information for christopher steele as they were trying to verify this unverified dossier or the clinton dirt that was used to get the fisa warrant. that's number two. number three, there is exculpatory evidence that we have seen, classified documents that need to be declassified. >> sean: exculpatory in nature in what way? exculpatory in what way? >> in that the carter page fisa when the judges should have been presented with this exculpatory evidence that the fbi and doj had. so those are the three areas that we have left in terms of what we need declassified. >> sean: rumors on top of that of a tape and potentially intel servers involvement in all of this? is there any truth to that? >> that i think it's to the origins of the investigation, which we still are unclear on on whether or not -- we know that the australian diplomat that was serving in london -- we were told that it was five eyes intelligence that was used to go after papadopoulos. but we discovered in our investigation is there was no intelligence and in fact thehe australian diplomat doesn't even make any sense. in the big picture, we need these documents declassified. that has to get done. >> sean: i'm running out of time and i want to get this in. this is really important. i just played the tape, the april 2017 tape of. your colleague, adam schiff -- i won't add my commentary to your comments, and it sounds like he's colluding with russians fom dirt on donald trump and wasn't the phony dossier that hillary and the dnc paid for, wasn't that full of russian lies, and it was used to misinform the american people to get a fisa warrant is your memo pointed out, the grassley memo pointed out, the bulk of information for the fisa? >> look, if they would have w bn up to the democrats, they were in on this from the beginning, so was the media. the media and 2016 had all this information too so they know that this information was being generated by the clinton campaign. you had doj, fbi, all of those cast of characters that were meeting regularly with christopher steele, bruce ohr, the number four at the department of justice who i think is going to become a more and more important figure in this and a lot of the investigative reporters should be looking closer at bruce ohr. >> sean: appreciate your time. c soon, maybe this week. the rumors i'm hearing. good to see you, please come back. the left targeting conservatives continues. despicable, disgusting. we will speak to victims this weekend. charlie kirk, candace owens harassed, they were having breakfast in philadelphia. earlier today, this tape is so bad, we will get to that and greg gutfeld straight ahead. ♪ i get it all the time. 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>> when they are expecting us, yes. if we are on campus is of course, if we are going to give a talk anywhere of course but this was unusual because we weren't at a trump rally, we weren't on a campus, we were simply having coffee in a coffee shop. >> sean: so sad. sarah sanders kids thrown out of a restaurant. i don't talk about it. i know the left -- i said last week i would be the first to jump in if i'm at an event and anybody laid a hand on even jim acosta, i train an hour and a half a day mixed martial arts. i fight and it's real fighting and i would defend anybody, but it's not the same if you are using words. here they actually chased you out of the restaurant and you are physically really assaulted. >> that's correct. and we made the decision not to press charges because we are not going to try to do with the left would do and try to create tomartyrs. at what we want to do is focus on as a warning sign to the american people that if the democrats take back congress, you are going to be electing these radicals. >> sean: those of the people that want to impeach the president, open borders, and eliminate i.c.e., keep obamacare. they want these investigations to stop. >> that's exactly right. they had a bullhorn and they were very close to my face screaming in my ear. reminiscent of the civil rights era.ig this is what you would expect in the civil rights era if a black woman was dining at a restaurant. >> sean: it seems that race comes up a lot because you happen to be conservative andau you happen to be anan african-american. >> that's correct. >> sean: remember i mentioned the book. google my name in the most horrific names come up. >> liberals believe that they own blacks. they believe they're something proprietary about being black in this country and if you deviate from the way they want you to think in the way they want you to act they grow violent. t >> sean: it's changing. did you see the fall, rasmussen? >> i did. i said there's going to be a major black exit from the democratic party because we are starting to figure it out, we're looking at the history, whichec they have wiped and we are realizing that the democratic party was always racist. >> sean: record low unemployment, 14 states. that's good for our fellow citizens. >> all americans. >> sean: what happened in chicago, to dovetail.t if we don't declare this a national emergency that literally our american families being gunned down in the streets and nobody's doing anything to help our national treasure. >> because they are not illegal aliens.an if these were illegal alien children that were gunned down, separated because theyhe lost their fathers they would be outraged. >> sean: but nobody wants separation of children and donald trump fix that. but people shot in the weekend. >> with the strictest gun laws in america. >> no celebrity's came out talking about this whatsoever and it's because these were americans. >> sean: you both are very brave and courageous. thank you both for being here. greg gutfeld, he has a lot to say next. >> sean: here now is a good friend of the program, author of the brand-new book, it's called "the god felt monologues: classic grants from "the five"." when i first met you -- you cann shake my hand. >> i didn't know if you're going to -- >> sean: don't start. when i first met you, you are like a little quirky. then i realized how funny you are. you have a comedic mind. >> i didn't come from comedy. i was a magazine editor.e i don't think anybody expected --- >> sean: you edited maxim? >> in england. it didn't last very long but i still did it. i don't think people expected that i was either political or that i had any other thoughts other than primitive male instincts and that i was weird,r and i am. i'm happy to be weird. >> sean: you did redeye and the show kicked -- from day one i was always a fan of "the five," i thought the show was genius and the ratings were astronomical. you don't have in this business a hit show on day one. a you guys had a hit show on day one.s >> it was natural chemistry and improvisational conversation. where everybody knew what somebody else was going to talk because the problem with cable tv -- people start your sentence when you are in the middle of yours. on "the five" we all said and we are going to say what we say anm it's the perfect hour for television. you have a cocktail, we are on. i did a book tour on saturday. people think they know you because they do. when they see you they go you are in my living room every day. you say what i want to say. that's why fox has a huge audience. >> sean: the monologue is a part of the show and i like that part of the show. if you are very irreverent, very politically incorrect. a little unpredictable politically, but that's what makes the show so good. you've got you, dana, jesse, everybody -- everyone has a different point of view. e and it's just the back and forth, intelligent, smart, fun, funny conversation. >> the goal is to say something that hasn't been set already and that's a challenge because at 5:00, you've already had nine or ten hours or 9:00. what i try to do -- this is my secret, i pretend i'm at a bar because generally when you were at a bar -- >> sean: i've been to a bar with you. not easy to keep up in a bar with this guy. >> i've pulled back a little bit, nothing but red wine. if you pretend you are mildly drunk, which is what i do, you listen in squares in your head into actually come up with stuff you haven't said before. >> sean: that's the mind of a comedian. tell us about the book, you've taken the best of the monologues. >> what i did as i critique my own writing so everyone of these is, where i'm wrong i will say when i'm wrong, when i think i'm cliched i will say that and then i update stuff because a lot of these monologues were pre2016, bt, before trumps on trying to update what happened. there's a huge section here on terra. -- terror. we don't talk about terror that much anymore, why? because isis -- knock on glass, but it's changed. >> sean: i know you had a great book tour so far, the boof is in bookstores everywhere. congrats on the success of the show, you are a great colleague. >> i appreciate it. >> sean: rush limbaugh sounds off on what the democrats are really running on in 2018. his insight, his commentary next. ♪ when you rent from national... it's kind of like playing your own version of best ball. because here, you can choose any car in the aisle, even if it's a better car class than the one you reserved. so no matter what, you're guaranteed to have a perfect drive. [laughter] (vo) go national. go like a pro. see what i did there? ♪ >> sean: rush limbaugh, 30th anniversary, by the way. he made an interesting observation, the democrat's blue wave is not based on a single policy. take a look. >> if the democrats win, what are we going to get? they are basing it on one thing, trump hatred, the resistance. not a desire for democrat policies. isn't that kind of flimsy? they think -- they live in a world where everybody now hates trump. they live in a world where everybody now realizes the mistake they made voting for trump. in their view, everybody is embarrassed of trump every day and wishes they could take back their vote and will do so but it isn't based on policy, no, it's based on trump hatred. >> sean: all trump hatred.

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does not work now? >> right. does not work now. never worked then either. >> historically, midterms and polls have shown that people want a check on the president, not a blank check on the president. >> all right. thank you all very much. and that is obviously a big special election matters across this country. so please stay with us with our special coverage of the ohio special election. it continues now with "ac 360." and good evening. thanks for joining us. it is once again election night in america, or at least in five states with some key races that could take the temperature of the electorate three months before the mid terms there are primaries in kansas, michigan, missouri, and washington and in ohio a special congressional election in that state's 12th district for a seat the republicans have held for decades, but could, could be up for grabs tonight. the president has injected himself into this race, visiting the district on saturday, appearing on stage with republican troy balderson. last week he had a one--point lead over danny o'connor. first i want to go to jason suburbs are located, and balderson said look, we don't want someone from franklin county representing this district. well, you've got about a a third of the voters who live in the district live in that portion of the county. and just a short while ago, the franklin county board of elections, we just heard from them. they said that they experienced anywhere from a 25 to 30% increase in voter turnout than what they expected. having said that, the balderson camp not worried about that. they're still feeling good about tonight. but they recognize it could be a very late night. anderson? >> and president trump obviously was there rallying support for balderson in the district. i'm wondering what are people on the ground who you're talking, to do they think the visit was helpful? >> well, that's interesting because when we spoke to some independent voters out here in the district, they really felt as though trump coming here really isn't going to leave that much of an imprint that could not be further from what we heard from the campaign who feels as though the president coming here is really going give balderson that extra boost that he is going to need to get over the finish line. >> jason carroll, thank you very much. want to check in the headquarters for democrat, danny o'connor in westerville, ohio. cnn political reporter rebecca berg is there. rebecca, let me ask the same question i asked to jason. what do people there telling you? is the o'connor camp hopeful? >> well, anderson, the o'connor camp is optimistic, but i would say cautiously optimistic. remember, this is a district that has been represented by a republican in congress for the past, you know, decades, since 1940, only two years this district has been represented by a democrat. so the odds are against o'connor. but what they have working in their favor is that democratic energy and enthusiasm that we have seen in other special elections across the country for months. they believe that democrats are enthusiastic about voting in this election. and then other factor potentially working in the o'connor campaign's favor here is republicans who are disaffected, who feel frustrated with the direction of this administration, with the direction of president trump, who might have voted for him in 2016, but are now unhappy. in fact, there is an ad running right now by the o'connor campaign. i heard tonight radio today featuring a republican voter talking about how she voted for donald trump, voted for governor john kasich, also a republican here who endorsed balderson, but now she is supporting o'connor. they're also hoping to bring some of those voters to their side today and to win this election, they will need some of those republican trump voters to cruise to victory this evening. >> it terms of the district, it's suburban. it obviously includes columbus. if o'connor does win, how much of it can it tell us about what we might see in november? >> it can tell us a lot about november, anderson. and that's one of the reasons we are here tonight, one of the reasons this is being so closely watched by national democrats and republicans. this is the type of district that can flip the house. you have educated white collar voters. women will be voting in this election in huge numbers potentially for the democrat, that gender gap we've seen in other races is something we'll be watching tonight. and this is the republican plus seven district. and so if this district is competitive, that means dozens offer districts that are less republican than this one could be on the map for democrats as well. and so this is as close to a generic ballot race as you can get. two candidates who are -- haven't made these lasting impressions in the district, but really testing the feeling of voters here tonight. >> all right. rebecca berg, thanks very much. we're going check with john king and the magic wall for breakdown. but right now i want to bring in gloria borger and our chief political can't dana baorrespon bash. gloria, reliably red for decades. what does this say to you if this ends up being as close as the polls indicate? >> this shouldn't even be a race, to be honest. donald trump won this district by 11 points. mitt romney won it by 10 points. and i think what it shows you is that there are a lot of disaffected suburban republicans. this is a district that's very well educated, and those white educated voters are where democrats need to make inroads. rebecca mentioned women, of course. these suburban women is another area of opportunity. and so, you know, i think that also independent voters. there is just a recent poll showing that independent voters substantially favor the democrat over the republican. so if you put that -- if you put that mix together, it really is an anti-trump mix. and this is a referendum on donald trump. >> dana, obviously the president coming -- the president's supporters says it does great things for the republican candidate. the flip side of, that does it energize people who do not like the president to go out and vote? >> the answer to yes, it could, and likely will energize some of the people who don't like president trump. but the reality is the republicans tell me is they're already energized. the people who are part of the sort of -- the angry what they call themselves the resistance, they're mobilized. and that is why this is even a race. and the challenge for this republican has been to get those republicans who make up the majority of this district, to get out and vote. and so that is a really big reason why maybe there was -- there was trepidation. i know there was trepidation about getting the president out to that district, but at the end of the day, republicans say that they feel really good about the fact that it was better to have the president there to get republicans out to vote than not. >> gloria, i want to bring in john king who is at the magic wall for just a second. what are you watching in ohio? >> to the point, what happens if franklin county -- let me show you so far. we have actual results to count. if you're democrats, you see this congressional district that hasn't been blue since the reagan ready it is. you start to see it blue and start to celebrate. i don't want to be the skunk at the garden party, but we have long way to go. 33% to 36%. let's break it down by county because this is so critical. the fact that we have so much blue right now early on is encouraging for democrats. we have the early vote. republicans will tell you, and they're often right, that they have a much better turnout on actual election day. so let's watch this play out. in franklin county, danny o'connor right now is 80% of the vote. again, it's early vote. a smart democrat will tell you he needs this to be 33% of the vote. it would be better for danny o'connor if the close in suburbs are 35, 36% of the vote tonight. if it come downs here, that would bode well for him. why does that matter this we shade the district by population. about a third of the voters live here. he needs it to be at least, that 33%. this is the more populated area. it's also the more close in suburbs to the points gloria and dana are making, the people who have been turned against donald trump in the republican party, there is a lot of them down here. that's the key battleground in franklin county. let me turn that off. then delaware county here. danny o'connor is leading in delaware county right now. den, a tiny percentage of the vote in. if delaware county stays blue, the democrats are going to win this seat. we're at 5%. we'll see how this works out. these are affluent republicans. suburb in here. you start to move ex-urban and rural. if danny o'connor can stay competitive here, within 5, 6, 8 point, then you a race tonight. if these stay blue, then we have history being made tonight because this is trump country up here in morrow county. if the democrats hold on the this, then we'd have a stunning upset. but again, as the democrats start to look at this early map and say wow, i just want the say hang in there. but just to that point, more morrow county votes came in and it switched back to the republican there one little piece of context, anderson. danny o'connor currently getting 80% in franklin county. in the last race here, pat tiberi, the republican who gave up this race to step aside, this was his worst county in the district. he got 57% down here. if franklin county stays red tonight, the republican will absolutely win. if it stays blue tonight, how big of a margin for danny o'connor and how much of a percentage from the overall district comes down here. it is very, very early. democrats are going to be encouraged by what they see early. but if you look at the full district, let's just count them. hang out a while. >> any sense of the sort of time for counting these votes traditionally? >> you've done this before. so what you get first right out of the box is you get the absentee ballots and the early votes. then you start to get the election day votes. and often, not always, that tends to happen in the suburban areas where they tend to have more resources, they have more technology. and the rural vote tends to come in a little later. i'm generalizing. sometimes the very small areas are done quickly because fewer people voted. there is no magic rule here. the main thing to watch is how the vote comes in in franklin county. i would suggest the democrats can be happy. they're off to the start they needed in the early counting. we've got a long way to go. >> gloria, it was interesting because ohio's governor, republican john kasich says one of the reasons it doesn't appear to be a slam-dunk for republicans is suburban women, as you discussed earlier, have been turned off. the question is what can republican party do to offset that or get those voters back? >> i think that's a big question. i think that suburban republican women are turned off by donald trump. not necessarily by the republican candidate running. and i think john kasich himself is also interesting, because john kasich, who has endorsed balderson, is also turned off by donald trump. and so he was late in endorsing this republican. he did, but he appeals to those suburban women. so maybe he can help balderson. but, you know, he and balderson disagree on medicaid money for the state. john kasich said let's take it. balderson said no. and kasich doesn't like donald trump. so it's kind of a -- it's kind of a mixed bag there. it will be interesting to see what influence, if any, kasich has in this race, and what influence he really wants to have, to be honest. >> dan narcotics kris kobach, who obviously helped field the president's unfounded claims of voter fraud who headed up that commission and was disbanded, he is running for governor of kansas. if he wins the gop candidate there, could that help democrats' chances in november? >> they sure think so. that's one of the things they've been crossing their fingers and toes all day. they want the republican who the president endorsed to win the primary in the governor's race in kansas. >> why? >> because they think that he is much more -- they know that he is much more beatable -- i shouldn't say that. they feel very confident that he is much more beatable than the man, the incumbent republican. let's not forget that it is highly unusual for a sitting republican president to endorse a challenger of a sitting incumbent republican governor. now this current governor got in after the sam brownback, who was elected left to join the trump administration. but the reason is even though we think of kansas, rightly so, as very republican and very conservative, the republicans have had a tough go of it in kansas because of sam brownback, the now former governor. lots of budget cuts, lots of issues. and his popularity is very low. and that is dragging republicans down. so they feel like they have a shot there. but i do think that it will be interesting before we kind of get to that point to see how successful the president is in this republican primary, if he is going to get the candidate of his choice. >> yeah. >> because he has a mixed bag on the general election, of course, on all these special elections. but republican primaries and the people whoa he endorse, the majority of them he has made a difference. mark sanford in south carolina. look what happened to martha roby in alabama. >> no downtown it. gloria borger, thank you. dana bash, we're going to keep an eye throughout the next hour and throughout the evening. just ahead, the stunning confession in the paul manafort trial. not from the defendant, but from his top aide who is testifying against him. the revelation came when he was under attack from one of manafort's own attorneys. we'll tell you what happened. and what has become the biggest wildfire in california history. the images are amazing, incredibly awful, while president trump chimes in inaccurately claiming there is a lack of water to fight these fires. not true. details ahead. fidelity is redefining value for investors. introducing zero account fees for self-directed brokerage accounts. and zero minimums to open an account. we have fidelity mutual funds with zero minimum investment. and now fidelity has two index funds with a zero expense ratio. because when you invest with fidelity, all those zeros really add up. ♪ so maybe i'll win ♪ saved by zero ♪ so maybe i'll win sometimes a day at the ballpark is more than just a day at the ballpark. stadium pa : all military members stand and be recognized. sometimes fans cheer for those who wear a different uniform. no matter where or when you served, t-mobile stands ready to serve you. that's why we're providing half off family lines to all military. at ally, we're doing digital financial services right. but if that's not enough, we have more than 8000 allys looking out for one thing: you. call in the next ten minutes... and if that's not enough, we'll look after your every dollar. put down the phone. and if that's not enough, we'll look after your every cent. grab your wallet. 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and gates saying effectively, listen, i'm taking responsibility for this now. and that's why the jury should believe me. >> do we know how paul manafort or at least how his attorney is feeling about gates' testimony? >> listen, clearly their focus here now because there is so much documentation as to these alleged crimes there are numerous e-mail exchanges. there was one that came up today where paul manafort e-mailed gates, saying wtf. of course we know what that's short for, saying he was blindsided by how big his tax bill was, this being paul manafort because he expected gates to have reduced that tax bill by doing all the alleged illegal things they were doing to reduce their tax exposure. you so much documentation, gates' testimony to back that up the focus comes for the defense trying to poke holes in the credibility of gates. and one way they went today, as you mentioned, anderson, they bing up an affair from ten years ago where gates was using money. he says none of the money he stole from manafort or elsewhere, but had an affair. he is spending a lot of money on a secret life. the defense attorney trying to focus on that. but again, a powerful moment happened when gates said, listen, yes, i did all those things and i lied. i'm taking responsibility now. that's a choice that manafort had, and he's not taking it. it was powerful moment in that courtroom because gates was in effect saying i'm taking responsibility. he is not. >> jim sciutto, appreciate it. thanks. joining me now two cnn legal analysts who are both former federal prosecutors. sean was an attorney. also with us renato mariotti. the detail of the extramarital affair, his embezzling money from manafort's own offshore account for what the defense claims was to pay for the affair, how effective a defense strategy do you think that is? clearly prosecutors tried to weaken that by getting in front of it, essentially, and having gates talk about his laws and the illegal acts that he took part in when he was on the stand. >> yeah, that's the standard approach, anderson. they want the effectiveness of that by making sure it doesn't seem as though the cooperating witness gets blind side by anything. so that's a pretty normal approach. i do need to add that anything i am talking about is not based on anything confidential or attorney-client privilege. >> sure. but why focus on the affair? just in the range of things that rick gates has already said he did, is -- i mean, do you think the affair would have that big an impact on the jurors? >> it could. again, with cooperators, off times the cross-examination wants to portray all the warts they want to hide. of course that was no secret probably to the prosecution. and because they chose not to reveal that, from a defense strategy point of view, they get a little bit more bang for their buck by bringing up something that the prosecution did not have a chance to bring up first. >> renato, the fact that rick gates met with special prosecutors over 20 times once he agreed to cooperate, and previously had lied to them, it does seem for the most part he was pretty unflappable and offered up some pretty damaging testimony against manafort, do you think? >> absolutely, anderson. and that's the result of the 20 meetings. so when i was a federal prosecutor, i never put a witness on the stand until i met with them at least two or three times. and there are witnesses that i spent many, many times preparing. and with mr. gates, there is a lot of ground to cover because as you pointed out, there was a lot of missed deeds that he talked about on the witness stand. and he had to keep things straight. the defense was going at him today, trying to put him on his heels, trying to flummox him. and he was very, very well prepared. you could see that he spent a lot of time with the prosecutors, and that's why you prepare a witness. >> shan, gates' character flaw aside, of which there seem to be many, it doesn't negate the fact that there is a paper trail including e-mails on how to doctor profit, loss documents to secure bank loans and the testimony of manafort's own accountant. >> that's right, anderson. and i think the challenge here for the prosecution is they need more than just the ostrich leather and the paper. they need to show the willfulness, and that's what they're counting on a cooperating witness like rick gates to show. i think rick is delivering on that. he has worked very hard. i think the direct testimony went in very well. and on the other hand, the challenge for the defense is they need to separate him from manafort and be able to show that he was an independent operator and he could have been the real one to blame. >> renato, there is also testimony now today that manafort sought an administration job as secretary of the army for a banker who just happened to be the same banker for whom manafort sought a loan under false pretenses. that alone sounds pretty sketchy to say nothing of the other allegations. >> for sure. you have to wonder the picture that you see in this trial of manafort is a man whose desperately needs money. he was, you know, in deep financial trouble. and yet he agreed to work for the president for donald trump for free. so why was he doing that? well, partially, it seems, he was trying to, you know, feather his own nest a little bit by using the influence that he gained, you know. he saw dollar signs, really. and that's why he ended up, getting a job with the president and ultimately trying to use that influence in the administration. >> yeah, shan, it does seem hard to kind of explain other than what renato just said. why manafort would agree to work for, would volunteer his services for president trump, other than given his financial situation, other than he saw it as kind of a loss leader, that long-term it would have benefits for him in terms of getting other clients or gaining influence. >> oh, absolutely. i think that it is a loss leader as renato pointed out, that it's probably worth its weight in gold, if not exponentially for the marketing point of view. and of course that brings us to the question that's been coming out, which is all of this lobbying and influence peddling. it would seem a reasonable assumption to make that that's what he was setting himself up for in the future. >> renato, do you think manafort is actually going to take the stand? >> i would be surprised if he did. if i was his attorney, i would tell him not to, just because there is so much evidence out there that is difficult to explain. this isn't the sort of case where it's his word versus rick gates. just as you pointed out, all these documents and e-mails that will be very hard for him to explain away. e-mails where he said there were no foreign bank accounts, for example. you know, e-mails where he is sending instructions to lie to banks. i don't see how you can explain that away. so i think you have to sit down and not take the stand if you're on the defense side. >> shan, would you recommend that he not take the stand? >> that's always the million dollar question for the defense council. counsel. i agree. very risky to put him on. they'll probably have to make that judgment call based on how they, meaning the defense team think the case is going. if they really think it's not going well that. >> may have to put him on the stand so that he can say that it's really rick gates' fault, he can point the finger at rick gates himself. >> shan wu, appreciate it. and renato mariotti, thank you very much. every day it seems we hear something about whether president trump is going to be interviewed by robert mueller. i'll talk with a report they're keeps a close tag on the president's mind-set in that regard. i'll speak with maggie haberman next. ♪ ♪ ♪ raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens ♪ ♪ bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens ♪ ♪ brown paper packages tied up with strings ♪ ♪ these are a few of my favorite things ♪ ♪ ♪ agent beekman was one step ahead of them.dits stole the lockbox from the wells fargo stagecoach, because he hid his customers' gold in a different box. and the bandits, well, they got rocks. we protected your money then and we're dedicated to helping protect it today. like alerting you to certain card activity we find suspicious. if it's not your purchase, we'll help you resolve it. it's a new day at wells fargo. but it's a lot like our first day. 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>> no. i think he is taking the advice for this moment. i don't think that it has any particular longevity. my colleague michael schmidt and reported among the issues is whether the president's tweets have been intended at various points to influence witnesses in the possible witnesses in an investigation into him. could they be construed as obstruction of justice or part of an obstruction of justice case. and there are some who believe that the more he tweets, even if he's saying things that he has said before, as he did with this trump tower tweet, but he is putting it to much starker relief this time than he did last year. but it's not really new information. that he is still creating problems for himself. and i think on this one, for whatever reason he was finally able to see this was unwise to have done. and he is for the time being laying off. but i don't expect it to last. >> giuliani yesterday told cnn that the president's legal team is preparing to respond to mueller in the coming days. it does seem like giuliani is continually moving the goalpost on this interview between mueller and the president. is that a conscious strategy? >> i do think part of their strategy has been to draw this out as long as possible and get it to as close to the window as possible where mueller is unlikely to issue a report after that. you know, there is this guideline within the department of justice about when you do things close to an election, i think it's 60 days from an election, you are not supposed to. and i think the assumption is that mule worry follow along with doj guidelines. so that gives you a couple more weeks. we're now looking at eight months that they have been having these negotiations about an interview. mueller's office, while they have said they wanted to talk to the president, they do seem to be letting the president's team and i think the president's team sees advantages in trying to draw this out. you can make the flip case which is that mueller's folks are giving them an awful lot of room by which mueller's folks can say we gave them every opportunity and. >> -- they didn't take it. i don't believe it will be an outright. no i believe it will be a counteroffer om some kind but i don't think we'll see that number tomorrow. >> tomorrow you think we might see that? >> difficult. >> in terms of the manafort trial, the second day of pretty damaging testimony from rick gates. how do you think the president is processing that right now? even though it doesn't have to do with the campaign per se? >> i think a couple of things. i think what would stand out to the president of that testimony and i think it was too hot out for the president to play golf. we don't know whether he did or didn't, because we have not been given particularly timely updates about what he is doing at his private club at bedminster this week on his vacation. assuming that he is paying as close attention to this as he does to most things that relate to him in some way, i think what would stand out to him is the testimony about whether rick gates possibly was reimbursed for personal expenses from the inaugural committee where he was an assistant to tom barrack who ran that committee and who has been a long-time friend of the president that i think would bother the president quite a bit and he will not react el to it. >> i want to get your read on the ohio special election tonight, which we're watching closely. the president campaigned there recently. how do you see it playing out? >> i think that making a prediction right now, since we don't know exactly what the vote's going to look like could be a huge mistake. i think that, you know, if i'm not going to say anything revelatory here. if republicans win tonight, it will be close, but this will be the model for how they do it in the fall. and it is going to be just straight-out scorched earth. if democrats win, i think it is going to show the power of enthusiasm and there is likely a wave coming. and i think that no matter what happens, you can be assured that donald trump is going to make clear that in his mind it's not his fault at all. >> maggie haberman, appreciate it. a great deal of process about what would be a sat earth shaergt interview. joining us alan dershowitz and cnn legal analyst laura coates. the whole back and forth from giuliani saying he is going to respond to the mueller team in the coming day, as i said to maggie, we have heard this many, many times before. do you see this as kind of trying to push the clock, run out the clock a little bit? >> well, i see it more in a different way. i see it more as giuliani wants to make an offer to mueller that mule kerr not accept. and in the end, it's mueller who says sorry, i don't accept it. and we're not going to do it on your terms. that way trump can continue to say look, i wanted to testify. my lawyers made an offer to testify, and it was mueller who turned me down. and then ball is on mueller's court. he has to decide to subpoena or not subpoena the president. if he does, he's in for a year-long litigation about whether the president can be subpoenaed. the answer to that is probably going to be yes. whether he can be asked questions about his motives and intention. the answer to that is likely to be no. whether he can be asked about other issues that come with an executive privilege. it will be a mixed result. but in the end, it will be a victory for trump because it will come after a long period of time. and it will be after trump has been able to say look, i wanted to testify, but mueller wouldn't accept my deal. so that i think is what the strategy is all about. >> laura, is that how you see the strategy? >> i do see that in a combination of things. one, in the game of good cop and bad cop, it's all an act. neither one is actually trying to be accommodating. it's one about a public service campaign and publicity campaign and one feigning they actually want to be involved in the investigation. you know you have these midterm elections coming up. it's a doj policy not to try to interfere or influence an election result. and for most states do have the november election, there are states that have early election, including early voting in terms of september. so the clock for mueller not to be able to interfere is actually as early as september in some states. the caveat anderson, of course is running out the clock. the person who is the subject of the investigation is not on any ballot. so it's not likely that it would apply that you would be influencing elections simply by trying to extend the mueller clock all the way to november if trump himself is not on the ballot. but it's a combined strategy. i think ultimately, this is a game where donald trump knows that the end result here is a political process, and he cannot run the clock out on the court of public opinion because it does not have deadlines. >> professor dershowitz, at what point would mueller's team subpoena the president to appear before a grand jury if the negotiations fail and they chose to do that? >> well, that's going to be a hard decision on his part because if he does subpoena the president, then that means he's going have to delay writing the report. if he instead says look, i tried to get the president to testify. he won't do it. he won't sit down. he's made every excuse, i've given him every opportunity to prove his innocence, now i'm going to write a report that says the president wouldn't sit down with me, even though i offered him a, b, c, d, written questions, no questions about this, no questions about that. and he uses that in his report as one building block toward a conclusion of some kind of guilt. in the end, if you ask me to bet widows and offerings' money on the outcome, i would have to bet that in the end, donald trump does not sit down with the special counsel or testify. in the end, i think we will not hear or see him, unless they good to court and he is compelled to do it by court. but i don't think it's going to happen voluntarily in tend. >> laura, would you make that bet as well? >> you know, i would make the bet that he would prolong and delay his ability to speak. but i think it's really against his interests to try to delay for many of the reasons alan talked about. it's almost a forgone conclusion that the president will ultimately, if they are subpoena and after a lengthy litigation battle will find the court saying you are the head of the executive branch of government, which oversees the department of justice. if everyone can thumb their noses at a subpoena, then we would have really no justice system, include if the head of the executive branch does that. i think they will come back and says he has to testify. however, i don't understand why he fails to realize that it's in his interest to avoid being compelled to testify in front of a grand jury because then he can't have his lawyers in front of a grand jury. and this is a person who we've seen time and time again, he could be coached. he will be able to hedge. he will have the ability to have his attorneys present to nudge him in the rib cage and say are you sure you would like to say that? here is the script we'd like to have you follow, the truth, of course. and if he doesn't have his attorneys present, then he won't have the ability to do so, which is one of the reasons that bill clinton, when he testified in front of a grand jury, albeit through a satellite feed did not have the advantage of having his attorneys present. >> professor? >> that's one disadvantage, not having your attorneys present. the big advantage is he litigates, and he litigates not only in court, but this the court of public opinion. and he will win some in court and lose some and win some in the court of public opinion. but it makes it more political, and that's what he would like to it be. >> yeah. >> he would like this to seem like a blue/red issue rather than an issue under the rule of law. >> professor dershowitz. >> laura coates, we're a little over time. thanks very much. up next, two high stakes elections happening tonight in ohio and kansas. we're following that closely. john king is crunching the numbers. we have new numbers from the special election in ohio. we'll give you that ahead. ♪ -morning. -morning. -what do we got? 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if it stays blue, balderson is in a lot of trouble. 5%. it's the early vote. now we move down here. we're still only at 8% in franklin county, and this is the biggest basket of votes period. this is what matters most. it has to stay blue for the democrats to have a chance here, anderson. danny o'connor has to win franklin county to have -- the franklin county part of the district to have a chance in this race. if he stays at 77%, he's golden. what a smart democrat would tell you is he probably needs to stay above 60, closer to 63 would be good, and he needs this to be at least 33, preferably 34% or 35% of the total vote in the district. only 8% in from franklin county right now. again, this is one-third of the votes in the district. if you're the democrats, you're in play, right? let's go back to the full district. you're leading at the moment, just barely, but we're still at 18%. when you're at 18% in a district that has a deep republican dna, let's just be patient, count the votes. we're going to be here a while. >> it's 18% overall, what, 8% in franklin county itself? >> that's right. this is the entire district. again, this is an estimate of what we expect from the precincts. these numbers are never exact. but we're at about 18% district wide. then if you go county by county, again, the biggest basket is down here. we're still at 8%. just watch. it could change while i'm here on live television. in the smaller less populated county, we're up to 30% in rich land. we're up to 64% in morrow. if you're balderson, you like the percentages. you'd like the turnout to be a little higher because you want to run up margins here if you're getting beat down here. but if you're troy balldderson, the map looks a lot better now than it did an hour ago. >> certainly that turnout is something both sides are going to be watching closely whether the president's visit for balderson helped bump up turnout, whether even possibly the president's visit helped bump up turnout for o'connor. >> we have a tug-of-war in the republican party. the benefit of donald trump is he's brought in white working class rural voters. if you're john kasich who you've had on the program many times. this is the strength of kasich. suburban women, millennials don't like the president. they've turned away from the republican party. this is a source of tension. we're watching it play out tonight. i want to check in with chris to see what he's working on for "cuomo prime time" at the top of the hour. how are you doing my friend? we're going to have a lot of the results come in on my watch and i'm going to try to avoid that draw to the what, what are the numbers and try to look at two different things. one will be what's the suburban play going on in ohio? i know john's been talking about that tonight. that's really why that district is so interesting to me because suburbs are the big battleground for both parties. so you have a lot of -- you have the exurbs which we used too call rural. you have that urban just around columbus, but suburbs are going to be a big battleground. then there's going to be what this means for democrats positively and negative. we get the anti-trump push. we get that's going to drive people to the polls. is it enough? it wasn't in '94, and it wasn't in 2010. so the question becomes what are democrats offering more than just if you don't like trump, come for us? we're going to see how that plays out tonight, anderson. >> all right. chris, we'll be watching, thanks very much. two fires merged become the biggest wildfire in california history. president trump spreads, well, a fallacy about the fire disaster. we have a live update from the fire zone. we'll tell you what the president said when we continue. t-mobile stands ready to serve you. that's why we're providing half off family lines to all military. 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A recap of the day's news. >> you have gone to a district trump won by 11 points. that romney won by 10 points. and now, it is a squeaker. mo, what -- for frz. >> john. >> you lost, we won. >> you have to thing about it this way. if they needed the president to get him over the hump in supremely red district that should tell you that the district was in jeopardy. the best read you could give. what that means is there is a surge of momentum at least in this area. we can't necessarily transpose that sort of rest of the nation. but it does suggest that, that the president is not as popular, because that was a plus 11 district. >> you are right. except, i want-up to have more momentum. because you are going to keep losing. peck pick up the senate and keep the house. >> the plan for the republicans. >> more momentum. >> campaign on the strength of the economy. as well as trump tax cuts. for, for the, the november mid terms. that its the hope they believe. actually, you know, maybe holding on to the house. >> through tax cuts. regulation, powerful trade policies, that's what they are. powerful trade policies. many of you love them. a come of you don't. because you are on the wrong side of the border, if you are from this country, you are loving what is happening. making america great again. policies are awesome. the strong economy. he did invite business leaders to the dinner that he publicly disagreed with. progress on personal side. if the economy is great. tax cuts are wonderful. why did republicans throw that strategy out the window within a month of this campaign. it gets the base going. red meat for the base. economy is good. a lot of voters when the economy is good. they credit the president. people believe in this country the president is commander-in-chief of the economy. he is not. if things are going well. why should we vote for change the why should we want something different. what happened is interesting. the best educated affluent suburbs bled voters to the democrats what we are finding around the country today. the wealthier you are. the more likely you are to be a republican. better educated. more likely to be a democrat. of students then say, well what happens if you are wealthy and well educated. a lot of people are. in that case you are cross pressure. pulled in different directions. if you vote, your economic interest, you will vote republican. if you vote your cultural values, liberal, you are going to vote democratic. >> yeah. okay. the president -- he was very much invested in this election. a lot more than we have seen. he tweeted. listen to this. if you want to stop closy, waters, maxine watt ears jen dachlt there is only one choice in this election. vote for. dishonest danny o'connor will vote for nancy pelosi for speaker. given how close the result looks to be. has moment now passed. >> i didn't know. one thing i want to pick up on. we keep saying the economy is strong. if you look at macro numbers some are doing great. look at inequality. how the division between the top and bt tom ottom is increasing. it tells a different story. so the recovery from the great recession is in the vast majority of cases felt by the upper echelon of voters. i think, bill is exactly right. there is a tension between people voting with their pocket books, people who are voting with their cultural val use. now with respect to nancy pelosi, i know that she is, you know, far from popular in this particular race. but i think we also have to look, and, nancy pelosi is a powerhouse fund raiser. and i think that will be really the name of the game for her, keeping her power. >> we have had this sort of, this message from the republicans, you know this personal attacks, cultural issues. which, resulted, resorted to a couple times on the elections. on the other side. democrats having a consistent message. health care, economic fairness. running mod ralt candidates who have tried to i guess in some ways to distance from pelosi. who have, sort of presented themselves, second amendment. they have chosen candidates which may bea better fit for the specific elections as posed to running a national campaign. and, if i could for a second. kind of funny how republicans keep talking nancy pelosi as if republicans, will be more in kleined to vote for a democratic candidate if someone else is speaker of the house. let's be clear on, on who is really running and who is, sitting, sending out the message which is actually speaking to the constituents. that's why i think the democrats in the special elections have done better. they're actually speaking to, the issues of the community. as opposed to some national message, of, who might be the speaker of the house. they've don't mention paul ryan. they've don't mention kevin mccar theechlt don't mention any one who might be the next speaker of the house or boogie man or woman as it were. >> itching to say something short of that. >> let's lack at macro. bill will correct me on this. depend on the professor. six congressional elections since trump has been president. how many democrats have won. $20 million in atlanta. by now, $50 million. $60 million. they lost them all. >> no, no, no. congressional. you are right about alabama. and the republican race. deser off to lo deserve to do that. you make it sound like. they're lose everything. and, except one congressional seat. >> to the point. and, still doesn't give you a seat in congress. >> no. close doesn't matter in politics. winning is winning. winston churchill. how big a majority do you need to govern. he said one will be enough. >> exactly. quickly though, because we know that trump won this, this district, what by 11 points. slightly better than mitt romney. by 10. wa with that in mind. with the results now. is there any way to, to, know if this, really bad come week that donald trump has had with the and really extraordinary degree. >> that's the point. it's all about the margin, not necessarily, who won. >> it is the margin. but you can't necessarily, overvalue that margin. because i don't believe all of the, the races are transferable. why people were coming out for, democrats in this poll, election in ohio was very different from what happened in new york. not the same. at the same time, it is significant, as we look at the overall movement of the party. >> okay. like you to stay with us. lot more to got to this hour. another nail biter in kansas in a moment. it's coming done to the wire for another republican candidate who was endorsed by the president. what does help for heart ♪ the beat goes on. it looks like emily cooking dinner for ten. ♪ the beat goes on. it looks like jonathan on a date with his wife. ♪ la-di-la-di. entresto is a heart failure medicine that helps your heart... so you can keep on doing what you love. in the largest heart failure study ever, entresto was proven superior at helping people stay alive and out of the hospital. it helps improve your heart's 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(applause) i do. check out the new united explorer card. saving on this! saving on this! saving in here. rewarded! learn more at theexplorercard.com ♪ (electronic dance music)♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ attorney general, josh folio will win the senate primary and face vulnerable two term in cki in come benk incumbent. back to our panel now, on all of this. just, quickly, look at how the democrats night turned out. a lot of women taking away, you know, winning these races. which seems to be, you know part of a trend which we have seen, for the last year or so. >> there have been a record number of wichl whine have decided to, either run for office or go into training programs to run for office. so there are groups like emily's list. there are lesser known groups that do, all most exactly the same thing. and, if you look at study after study. what it has shown is that the trump presidency has energized not just millenials and not just members of minority communities, but disproportionately in terms of who've is going to actually run from the city council level to state assembly and senate, to congress. to senate. it has been women who have said, over and over again, i am going to take part in this aspect of civil, civic life. i am going to declare candidacy. >> with that in mind, the president may have a 38% job approval nationwide, bill. but still popular in places like kansas and the man who received the presidential endorsement via tweet. before the polls opened. believes it came just in time. basically, was a much needed boost. so, you know, the president still has, you know, a lot of power. lot of popularity. to get his canned date in the conservative states over the line. did it in georgia. >> he is the king of the base. he has a, real base, in the republican party. your base, are the people who are with you when you are wrong. ronald reagan had a base during iran-contra. clinton during the lewinsky scandal. trump had a base during access hollywood tapes. they stayed with him. because he is a fighter. he fights for what they believe in. each evangelicals stay with imhim. though he doesn't exemplify what they believe. because he delivered for them. and what they wanted was the supreme court. and he is giving them nominations of, two supreme court justices who, they believe will be just, what they want. >> but, mo, we had the republican party officials in kansas who reportedly asked the president not to get involved in this fight. because they're more concerned about what happens come november if kobak is government nor nominee for the republicans. and essentially the division that will create, possibly opening way for a good result from the democrats. >> traditionally the president is the head of the pare, he or she would represent. this president is the president of his base. that is all who he cares about. he has no interest in trying to grow it. not trying to reach out. he is not trying to reach across the aisle. he is only, with the people who are with him unconditionally. >> let's take a looking at the president's scorecard when it comes to backing winners, first in the primaries. then in the general elections. in the primaries, it is overwhelming. in the general, not the same. one win, three losses. sean, you know, that does seem to be the story of donald trump. in many ways, in that, he, animates the base. that gets him out. but then, that also, in the primary elections, but then, you know what he does to get the base out. also energizes the democrats. you know, come the general election. >> it's polarizing. never seen anything like it. i understand it. i think obama, dragged the country so far to the left. just tremendous alienation. by half the country. some of the folks don't know what i am talking about. miserable for eight years under obama. so there is a reaction, and, and it gets. and, well, actually the great recession, the depression, obama, didn't go very well for a whole long eight years. let's move on. republicans won five of the six. trump endorsed republicans. have to talk to the scoreboard person. because he got the numbers mixed up. trump is winning most of the elections. in california, during the election, about half the republicans didn't like trump very much. i get to talk to the folks all the time. 90% now. it's not just the base. small group of people. trump kept more than promises. been more effective. and more popular. and i got to tell you. trump is more popular today than people attacking him. the governor in kansas. raised more money. endorsed by the nra. backing of the bob dole. you know he was, you know, his credentials out there. anti-abortion. but, he had the presidential tweet. does it mean the values in a conservative republican state, the president endorsing now, more influential, powerful than what used to be kidded, conservative values. >> what we are seeing in kansas is what we are seeing in washington, d.c. we are seeing in many states throughout the nation. which is there is tension between-- the republican establishment, and donald trump's republican party. and i think what we are seeing frankly is, that donald trump's republican party is really coalescing. and that, the old establishment is essentially falling in line. and for a lot of people, this is become one of the biggest surprises of the trump presidency. which is, that -- this wasn't just -- well, you know, republicans have one world view. and democrats have another. their surprise was that the republican establishment fell in line behind president trump. even after he is -- he has really done nothing but propagate lies, harm the country, divide us, along really a fractured fault line. and so i think yes, what we are seeing in kansas, is what we will see even more so in the mid terms. where we will see president trump saying, this is my person. and then, i think the republican establishment is going to fall in line as they have. >> just to finish up with you. what does the republican party look like after president trump's candidates are the ones who essentially, you know win these primary results, and, stand for the midterm elections. >> i've don't know what they will look like. they will sound look donald trump. we will see a lot of republicans to, to jessica's point. who will run to the president. clear now from the republican base. they're going to want the republican support. so if they can get that, from, or through, donald trump. then yes they're going to run to him. now, whether this will help the republican party long term. ask me, november 8th. in orange county. three women running against three white democrats. in the inland empire. two muslim republicans running . there are more women engaged that include the republican party. >> fair point to finish on. thank you. we have a lot more to go this hour. when we come back, we will talk about credibility. ahead the key witness, faces a very tough cross-examination in the paul manafort trial. you might take something 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ballots to be counted. donald trump won the district by 11 points in 2016 presidential election. well, the credibility of the prosecution's key witness in paul manafort's bank and tax fraud trial came under attack tuesday. and paul manafort's deputy for 10 years. and now testifying against the former trump campaign chairman. a blistering cross-examination by paul manafort's lawyers. we get details. >> reporter: star witness rick gates back on the stand, admitting during a harsh cross-examination, to having an extramarital affair a decade ago. but denying accusations by paul manafort's lawyer, that he was embezzling money from paul manafort to fund his affair. what the defense attorney referred to as a secret life in london, and elsewhere. gates testified two weeks after donald trump's election paul manafort recommended that his bank, steve koch become secretary of the army. koch allegedly loaned money under false pretenses. gate detailed how broke paul manafort was when he joined the trump campaign in march 2016 working at the time for no salary. gates said paul manafort's consulting firm had no clients then. and that they were at the time trying to secure another political consulting contract in ukraine. but had not yet been able to. in a 2015 e mail exchange. paul manafort was frustrated. wtf, manafort wrote to gates. how could i be blind saided like this, this after learning that taxes he was due to pay were much higher than he had anticipated. gates admitted he also supplied false information to banks in order to help paul manafort secure bank loans. gates testified that manafort made more than $5 million between 2011 and 2012. doing consulting work for ukrainian billionaire. gates went into detail. about how shell companies were used to move mun vee into hidden accounts in cypress. in one instance according to gates, a payment supported lobbying in the united states. gates stated that manafort reported some of the payments to u.s. tax officials as loans. though they were in fact, income. adding that manafort was trying to decrease his taxable income. prosecutors demonstrated that paul manafort directed these activities through e-mails. there were hundreds of these. gates said in court. adding, typical practice was, paul manafort would send me a list of wiry quests. gates admitted that he used information provided by paul manafort to create invoices for fake amounts of money for wire transfers. but the money never ak sthael went to the vendors. instead it went to the banks. the purpose of this according to gates -- so that the wire transfers would not be recorded on u.s. business records. nonetheless, monday. prosecutors, ee his nated testimony from mr. gates and one of paul manafort's accountants that tied him to russia. the kaccount antd testified in 2006, paul manafort received a $10 million loan from a russian oligarch close to president vladamir putin. she said she saw no evidence the loan was ever repaid. throughout, paul manafort's attorneys focus has been on, undermining the credibility of rick gates. saying, why should the jury believe him now, considering the fact that he has lied before. admitted to lying before to federal prosecutors. rick gates answer is that he is taking responsibility now, for those mistakes and there was a powerful moment in the trial today when he said, that is a choice that paul manafort has not taken as well. >> cnn legal analyst joins us now. back with us, mo kelly and sean seal. okay. start with you. a lot in the trial. a lot happened tuesday. sum it up. some of it anyway. heard from robert gates about a seven year long conspiracy with paul manafort, include lying to the irsa. void taxes. and millions in loans. gates helped to open overseas bank accounts. bank fraud scheme. income as loans to. reduce paul manafort's tax bill. the account anlts reclassified loans as income. off to get a better lending rate. lawyers alleged possible embezzlement, millions of dollars. overall, not a great day for gates. he has immunity. the issue is credibility of gates. we knew that the defense attorneys were going to go after him hard. this is a guy, that -- embezzled money from paul manafort, the guy that thee was also involved in other criminal activity with. this is a guy that also lied to the fbi, federal prosecutors. so there is huge credibility, use. but this is the kind of witness, that prosecutors typically use in these cases. they didn't pick gates or paul manafort. >> they are relying on gates alone. for evidence. the case would not be great. >> the case wouldn't have been brought. because his credibility is so shot. the jurors are not likely to believe much of what he has to say. but there is this, this, you know this trove of evidence, documents. e-mails. bank records. can't forget the witnesses that came before gates. these are people that don't have any interest. they weren't benefiting from, this, this fraudulent scheme. the criminal scheme. people got immunity. came forward. gave testimony. we should, expect to see other witnesses like that. those are the witnesses that i think, the jurors are going to really focus in on. they're going to say, rick gates is a liar. paul manafort is a lierp. but let's look at the other independent witnesses. and, then, all of this documentary evidence. that's what is going to decide the trial. >> mo, for the first time, the trump campaign was mentioned by name in the past always a presidential campaign. you know, at best the president didn't know what paul manafort and gates were up to. of a scheme from manafort. hasn't been proven guilty. alleged at this point. innocent until proven guilty. an allegation. trying to monetize his position with the trump campaign. wasn't getting paid for it by the trump campaign. but to tripe to make money from, who ever was willing to pay him. paul manafort was going to monetize, use your point. any opportunity which would prevent itself. a broke man would start working for the trump campaign and not have some sort of financial angle to come out of it. would be ignorant for us to assume. what is going to happen at this point. we are going to see, the ten drills of this, financially, extend far beyond rick gates. far beyond, just a donald trump. hypothetically, presumably. we are going to find, how deep, and how close, beyond, paul manafort, is this trump campaign to russia on a financial level. >> and, sean, when we look at soufrlt t sort of the evidence being presented. again the president didn't know anything about it. what was going on. how much longer can the president use that excuse. i guess legally it is fine. politically, how much, how much, longer can that last before it becomes a question of his credibility. his competence if you like. you know, he hired only the best team. >> paul manafort its a bad character. and has hardly anything to dupe with trump. he took the russian side. putin side against the ukrainian people. he made a lot of money. apparently didn't pay a lot of taxes on that. he bought some really weird clothes. and kind of a boring case. and, here is the funny thing. using a lot of perjured people providing testimony. he may get off this thing. i don't really think it has anything to dupe with anything except paul manafort maybe spending a lot of time of in jail. >> i big to differ with that to. day say that, the campaign chairman for the president of the united states. >> four months. four months. >> on trial for the charges he is on trial for. yes, isn't a trial of donald trump. this is a trial of his judgment. a trial of his ability to vet people who, he brought into his orbit. this was in the closest refined. relationship with the president of the united states. paul manafort was named, david axelrod, sean steel's argument would have changed considerably. >> what about the others charged. papadopoulos, michael flynn. done deals, admit to lying, guilty. other charges close to the president. >> there is a whole another, story here that the other half of america is listening to. need to have both sides appreciated. the fbi has known about paul manafort for years. >> and they have never taken any action. >> hold that thought. did, was the fbi obliged to inform donald trump about the investigation into paul manafort ongoing. >> they did, dianne feinstein. >> we know the fbi provide the lots of information to donald trump. he was given, a ton of information. off awe about paul manafort. >> about the investigations going on. he rareliless tuned or received the information that was being provided to him. so, whether -- you know one thing that is really, concerning me about sean's statement. first of all, half the country. half of the country. is not sitting here rooting for donald trump. as sean would like for us to believe. that's just a false statement. and, donald trump had an on li gas to know who he was, bringing into his campaign, that they were criminals. he didn't do that. and now this is, a huge -- a stain on his presidency. >> last remark. >> think of is this way. he was, as in donald trump's choice as the a paul manafort. former kachl pain manager. his choice, michael flynn. it was his choice in terms of rick gates. it was his choice as far as, attorney jen ram, jeff sessions. all of them have connections to russia. let's do the simple math. >> okay. on that. sean, thank you. >> thank you. >> as always, thank you too. >> short break. when we come back here will the u.s. president and north korean leader meet. for a second summit. the national security adviser now says that, well it's a possibility. bathroom. ment guest your privacy makes you my number 1 place to go number 2. i love you, but sometimes you stink. febreze air effects doesn't just mask, it cleans away odors. because the things you love the most can stink. and try febreze small spaces to clean away odors for up to 30 days. breathe happy with febreze. bundle and save big, but now it's time 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the scenes, u.s. and north korean officials talking sanctions and issues that might just derail nuclear talks. will ripley live for us in hong kong. do the north koreans want to negotiate with pompeo or meeting with donald trump directly? >> the sense getting from speaking with sources and from even just listening to the messaging in north korean state media, holding up president trump as best hope for a deal favorable to north korea. even in statements at the summit over the weekend by north korea's foreign minister, which were very critical of the u.s. calling u.s. action as larm ila saying the u.s. is not living up to the bargain. spirit of the june 12 agreement signed in singapore the they were focusing criticism on the state department. not mentioning secretary of state, mike pompeo, blaming u.s. internal strive and mind set within the administration, conflicting they said, with the grander view of the u.s. president. it does seem, john, they want to meet with trump. they would like to do so according to my source before the midterm elections because they think they can put pressure on the trump administration, to come out of a second meeting with something more substantive, which president trump can use to gain political points had of the midterm. politics north korea all tied together some how. >> we have also heard, you know the administration, the u.s. administration, making sort of hints thamt tht this meeting wa the cards or considered at least. if there is a second summit. saying the north koreans would look it before the mid terms. that's 90 days away. is that possible according to the americans. and i guess where, that is the other big question, where would they hold the summit? >> it is possible. if for exam pull, kim jong-un were to come to new york for the united nations general assembly which kicks off on september 18th. a lot of world leaders flying in for that. room messieurs that that, the americans and north koreans were working out a deal to send kim jong-un or somebody of a very high level, like, the chief nuclear negotiator, but if kim jong-un did come to new york, could you imagine, a meeting at trump tower with the north korean leader and a sitting u.s. president. remember president trump hinted about a possible meeting last week on twitter. when he was thanking, chairman kim for, for returning the purported remains of u.s. korean service members also thanked him for his letter and said, i'll see you soon. we just have to watch and see what unfolds in the cupping weeks. >> you know, that's, something i could not imagine a year or so ago. now i can. will, thank you. live for us in hong kong. >> take a short break. next here on newsroom l.a., california's fire season has just begun. but of the state is already facing historic wildfires. and there is no end in sight. when i received the diagnoses, i knew at that exact moment ... i'm beating this. my main focus was to find a team of doctors. it's not just picking a 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A look at breaking news, politics and reports from around the world. it's more of a custom inside the justice department. it doesn't say that there can't be an investigation 60 days out from an election. what it says is the norm is that there isn't an overt move in an investigation dealing with an elected official or somebody on the ballot at 60 days before the election. for example, a subpoena, an indictment or pushing to get an interview during that window. that's true. but at the same time -- you alluded to this, wolf -- giuliani is conceding that if there is no resolution between now and labor day, which is effectively the september deadline he's talking about, that it might not be the worst thing in the world politically, not legally but politically to give the republicans a rallying point to kind of protect the president, not unlike what you heard devin nunes say on that tape. to protect the president from democrats who may want to impeach him. now, that's obviously a stretch, but it doesn't take away from the fact that it's a talking point for republicans. >> some legal scholars have pointed out that sort of that tradition of not going after people on the ballot involves members of the house, members of the senate who are up for reelection, but the president himself is not up for reelection thanchts . >> that's true. he's not on the ballot technically, but when you're dealing with the president of the united states, he's always on the ballot in a metaphoric way. in this particular election year, there is going to have a referendum on this president and he's out campaigning for people. so, yes, it is a very unique situation that you're dealing with a president under investigation. so i think it's probably something that will be concluded by all sides that it should apply in his case. >> stand by. we're going to be getting back to you soon. i want to get some more on all of this. republican congressman ted yo of florida is joining us. thanks for joining us. >> you bet, wolf. great to hear you. >> is it appropriate, congressman, for the president's attorney rudy giuliani to be treating this investigation as a political football by dragging out the interview negotiations with robert mueller and suggesting, you know what, if there's no interview, that might be good in generating support among the president's base going into the midterm elections? >> you know, i think rudy giuliani is doing what he thinks is best for the president to move forward. this investigation really needs to go away. it was set up on russian collusion and russian meddling in our election. we know they meddled. there is no evidence of collusion. the fisa warrants were issued on those pretenses. >> excuse me for interrupting, but we don't know what mueller has. he's been very silent. we don't know if he has evidence of collusion or conspiracy or cooperation or any of those areas. we know the investigation is continuing. but you know how this investigation can be wrapped up right away? if the president agrees to sit down with the special counsel and his team and answer questions. why not simply do that? >> i don't see a need for that. i would defer to rudy giuliani again. this investigation should go away. it was set up on a false pretense. we've read the memos. there is no collusion. they're going to drag this out. this thing just needs to go away so we can get on with the nation's business. we talk about our debt, we talk about these other threats. this is a distraction. think how much more we could get done in congress as a nation if we got rid of this witch hunt. >> i just want to correct you. you keep saying it's a false pretense. do you agree the russians did meddle in the u.s. presidential elections in 2016? >> there's no doubt about that. >> all of the members of the u.s. intelligence community agree, including the president's own director of national intelligence and cia director and everyone else. >> sure. >> isn't that part of the investigation that robert mueller and his team are -- >> we know that happened. >> -- to learn all of the lessons and to see if there was any cooperation whether with george papadopoulos or any of the trump advisors working in that area? >> you know, i think after a year, year and a half and millions of dollars, i believe they would have found it by now. >> how do you know they haven't found it if we don't know the results of mueller's investigation? >> well, he should have come out with it by now. >> he's waiting to speak to the president, though. >> the president hasn't been charged with anything and he hasn't shown any wrongdoing. so i don't know if i would sit down with robert mueller if it was me. i don't believe i would. >> they usually wait for the principal in this particular case to be the final element in the investigation. >> that gives the prosecutor a leg up to sit down with him. you know, if i were president trump, i don't believe i would. i'd listen to rudy giuliani. >> the whole point, though, and it's a simple notion that all of us grew up with. our parent always told us, if you have nothing to hide, go ahead and speak the truth and you won't be in trouble. what is the president and his lawyers afraid of in sitting down and answering questions if the president didn't do anything wrong? >> i agree. i think we'd like to hear what was said on the plane with bill clinton and loretta lynch. let's hear what that brings out. again, they've had a year and a half to find something. obviously they don't have anything. they're dragging this out. i disagree with that. >> all that stuff with bill clinton and loretta lynch and all that other stuff with hillary clinton has been thoroughly investigated. you saw the inspector general's report and the department of justice came out with a lengthy report. they've reviewed it in detail. this is a separate matter right now. let's get into another issue, because you're always kind to join us here. the recently uncovered recording of your colleague, the house intelligence committee chairman devin nunes telling republican donors that republicans need to keep the majority in the house of representatives. and then he suggested in order to protect president trump from the special counsel's investigation. do you think it's your job to protect the president of the united states from this kind of investigation? >> before i answer that, i listened to that recording seven times and i never heard the word protect. what i heard devin nunes say at the end of that is if we don't keep the majority, all this goes away. you know, the tax cuts go away, the reforms we made with regulations, they go away. so you can read that protect in there. i did not hear the word protect. so i don't know if that's conjecture. i didn't hear that portion of it. i've listened to your show for the last hour listening to that and i played it back over and over again. >> if that's his goal to protect the president, as you know the legislative branch is coequal with the executive branch. >> right. >> your mission is to do what's necessary to protect the american people, not necessarily the president of the united states. >> absolutely. >> if he's making that suggestion, you've got to have a republican majority in order to make sure the president doesn't have to deal with robert mueller, that's not necessarily appropriate, is it? >> well, again, i didn't hear the word protect. you're putting that word in there. i heard that all this goes away. again, i think devin nunes was talking about all the gains we've had, the historic low unemployment, the minimum wage going up across the country, over 4 million people getting bonuses and the millions of people that have gotten increased pay because of the tax cut that we passed. that's what i think devin nunes was talking about when i heard that tape. he's talking about all that goes away. >> you're right. the word protect specifically is not included in this statement. but clearly it's implied. >> let's leave that out of this discussion. >> i could play that clip for you one more time. certainly if you hear what he's saying about robert mueller and his investigation, the need for a republican majority in the house of representatives, the implication is that you've got to keep a republican majority to make sure the president is protected. >> well, we want to keep a republican majority because we like the crumbs that are coming in and the american people do too. they sent us up there to do what we've done, and we want to make sure the agenda of the republican party and this president stays intact with the ga gains we've made. i agree with devin nunes. if we lose that majority, all those gains go away and you'll have nancy pelosi on the house floor rallying for eight hours to protect the people here illegally and they'll have open borders and get rid of the tax cuts and god knows what else. i stand with devin nunes on that comment. i did not hear the word protect. i hope that the media gets that right and says the word protect was not in that statement. i think that's a little false advertising. >> we get your point. but it was certainly implied if not specifically used, that one word protect. >> that's a little thin. >> we can leave it on that and let the viewers make up their mind to see what he was driving at. let me get your thoughts. you're a member of the house foreign affairs committee. on these latest sanctions against russia for the poisoning of an ex-russian spy on british soil, including his daughter as well. these sanctions are required by u.s. law, but the administration didn't implement them until the chairman of the foreign affairs committee wrote to the white house in late july, saying you've got to do this because it's the law of the land. you're a member of the foreign affairs committee. do you want the administration to be more proactive about combatting russian misbehavior? >> yes, absolutely. chairman royce, i have the utmost respect for him. if he's leading us, i'm 100% behind it. these are tools that we've come up with of arrows in a quiver that an administration can use. if we don't use the tools, whether it's russia, china, north korea or iran, we're weakening our hand. i agree with chairman royce. when you ever a nefarious actor like russia that you know is meddling in our elections and there's evidence that they're doing it again, we need to act on that. that's why we put in our cyber security response and deterrence act that will go after these and gives the legislative branch more tools to give an executive branch to hold bad actors accountable. it's time we start using them. >> you got a pretty strong endorsement on twitter today from the president of the united states. i'm sure you're pretty happy about that. i see that broad smile coming from you. always good to have you here. >> i appreciate it. thank you for the opportunity. just ahead, the judge in the paul manafort trial clashes repeatedly with prosecutors. what does it mean for the mueller investigation? 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it's paul manafort's financial dealings. the other one is that key issue of russian interference in the election and the possibility, if it exists, of the trump campaign cooperating with the russians into the interference in that election. what that filing makes clear is that the special counsel is talking to rick gates, someone who is very high in the trump campaign, deputy campaign chairman, in fact. they're still talking to him, they're asking him questions and that that question, at least as described by the prosecutors in the filing, is an ongoing criminal investigation. they're still relying on him and his testimony still relevant to that open question. >> important point. jim sciutto, thank you very much. let's dig deeper into all of this. jeffrey toobin is joining us. how unusual is it for a federal judge to admonish a prosecutor like this? and how unusual is it for that same judge to then apologize in front of the jury? >> judge ellis is a bully and a disgrace. his behavior in the courtroom is appalling. there are many ways that judges can keep a disciplined courtroom that can move cases along quickly without berating and embarrassing the lawyers, especially when the judge was wrong. the issue that came up was, he yelled at the prosecutors because they allowed an expert witness to remain in the courtroom and listen to other testimony, but he had previously allowed expert witnesses, explicitly said it was okay for them to be in the courtroom. and grudging hi the iningly thi said, well, probably i was wrong. not probably, definitely he was wrong. it is unusual because most judges are better and less arrogant than this judge is. you know, i don't think it will affect the outcome of the trial, but i think it's a poor model in a high profile case. >> let's turn to rudy giuliani's latest remarks to our own dana bash. he says he might not mind dragging out the russia investigation because it could help fire up the republican base ahead of the midterm elections. what did you make of that comment from the president's attorney? >> i think he may be right. if you look at how rudy giuliani has conducted his defense in public, it has been basically an attempt to rally the base to convince the president's supporters that robert mueller is a thug, that robert mueller is on a witch hunt. and it's been pretty successful according to the polls. robert mueller is powerless to defend himself. he does not comment in the media. he only has people who are on the outside who are commenting on his behalf. and we can argue about whether it's a good thing or a bad thing that rudy giuliani is talking this way. but is he right about how the politics play out? at the margins, he may well be right that the fight with mueller keeps his base motivated. >> thank you so much. jeffrey toobin is our legal analyst. just ahead, more on the newly leaked recording of the house intelligence committee chairman talking about protecting trump from the special counsel robert mueller. we're going to play the clip for our viewer. and breaking news, the death toll climbs in california's fire disaster, plus new details of the man suspected of starting one of the blazes and how he taunted a firefighter by text. see that's funny, i thought you traded options. i'm not really a wall street guy. what's the hesitation? 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>> it's a protection racket. i mean, he wants to protect the president. if you want to say, look, we need to keep the republican majority because we need to do more on tax reform or, you know, we want to do more on trade, we want to get rid of nafta, whatever it is, fine, fine. those are issues. what he's talking about is protecting the president from bob mueller, the special counsel. you know, he's also saying if we did this now, if we tried to impeach rod rosenstein, if we impeach rod rosenstein, we're going to hold up the confirmation of cavanaugh for the supreme court, which people would argue is probably a little bit more important. so let's hold off on impeaching the deputy attorney general until after the election. so let's make sure we can keep this majority. and by the way, use this as an issue in the election, which is what they're going to do. >> rebecca berg, you didn't hear the word protect, but the whole upshot of this is that if there's no republican majority in the house of representatives, mueller and sessions doesn't un-recuse himself and mueller won't clear the president, the republican majority is the only one that can prevent this real danger to the president of the united states from unfolding. so the protection is clearly implied there, even if that word protect is not used. >> absolutely. it's clear what devin nunes here is saying. it's not necessarily surprising that he would think this, that he would believe this. but to hear a house committee chairman, much less the intelligence committee chairman, give voice to these feelings is rather stunning. two things, first, because of what it says about his investigation, about the work that he has done on the intelligence committee. it casts doubt on everything the h -- he has done. it racises questions about his impartiality. then it's also playing right into the hand of democrats politically. they have been arguing that they need to come to washington to be a check on the president, because republicans won't do it. that's exactly what devin nunes here is saying. >> congress is supposed to be a coequal branch of government with oversight responsibilities, responsibilities to the american public, not necessarily to the executive branch, including the president. >> right. a coequal article i branch of government that's supposed to be loyal to the constitution, not to the president of their own party. i think republicans in the house have at times played this fairly partisan even in comparison to republicans in the senate. what makes congressman nunes stand out is that if you look at some of his statements, that statement, his actions going to the skiff at the white house last spring to try and look at documents to backstop the president's claim about the obama administration spying on him. the difference between him and some of his colleagues is he doesn't seem to mind that we all perceive him that way. he is riding for trump and that is what makes him stand out. >> what do you make of congressman devin nunes's remarks? >> are you kidding me? if this were a serious process, we're going to get either indictments or i suspect we're going to get a written report atteat the end of this process by mueller that will include the facts of the investigation. a real committee -- look at the senate intel committee led by republican senator richard bu burr very honorably looking at the russia process and saying why don't we consider a fact. devin nunes is saying, i don't care what mueller find, we're supposed to be a block on the mueller process. if you gave nunes the f and the a, he couldn't spell fact. all he says is we've got to block what they do. the senate's got this right. the house never has. >> the funny thing about congressman nunes that surprises me sometimes is that president trump is loyal to no one that's not named trump. it's a wonder why he thinks that if at any point it becomes useful to the president to say congressman nunes, who? never heard of the guy. he used to get coffee for us. he probably will do that based on his track record. so why is he sticking to closely to him? it's hard to say. >> new statistics coming out from puerto rico to the hurricanes, the death toll from last year's hurricanes in puerto rico, irma and maria. now 1,427 people were killed from this hurricane, as opposed to about 60 originally mentioned in the early statistics. it's approaching hurricane ka trina at 1,833. these are american citizens on puerto rico. what are your thoughts on the new information from the government of puerto rico? >> i think the united states government needs to do an accounting, a public accounting of what occurred here and what went wrong. the president was saying things were going great, the electric grid was up, you know, the 40-odd deaths were unfortunate but things were going well. i mean, now you're talking about a huge number of people who have perished. where is the president? and where are the departments here of government talking about what went wrong afteraction, what they can do better, why it didn't work, where were the resources? and we're not hearing that. we're not hearing that. look, there's so much else going on, you know, we're talking about children being separated from their parents at the border, we're talking about the russia investigation, we're talking about russia. we're talking about nato. there is so much incoming right now that it's hard to kind of focus on what occurred months and months ago. but these are people, americans, americans who died who were not given assistance that they needed. at some point, the buck stops with the president of the united states. >> let's play what the president said in the immediate aftermath of the hurricanes in puerto rico. listen to this. >> we saved a lot of lives. if you look at the -- every death is a horror, but if you look at a real catastrophe like katrina and you look at the hundreds of people that died and you look at what happened here with really a storm that was just totally overpowering. what is your death count as of this moment, 17? >> 16. >> 16 people certified. 16 people versus in the thousands. you can be very proud of all of your people, all of our people working together. 16 versus literally thousands of people. >> we now know, according to the government of puerto rico, 1,427 people were killed in those hurricanes. >> right. so it really puts the president's comments in a whole new light, wolf. maybe the president shouldn't have been celebrating that moment in the first place. i mean, it's one thing to praise the government workers, the first responders who in light of a natural disaster of that magnitude are responding and trying to save lives. certainly the president should thank them and praise their work. but to try to take credit in that moment, to talk about those at the time 16 lives -- now we know it to be thousands of lives lost -- as if they were points on a scoreboard rather than people who are now dead whose families will never see them again, the president doesn't only have an obligation as an executive but also as a moral leader, as an emotional leader in moments of crisis and disaster. and you really didn't see that from president trump in this case. >> you've got to blame the governor in puerto rico too for coming up with that number very early, clearly a false number. just ahead, the trump reelection campaign already fund-raising off the president's space force just hours after it was launched. plus, breaking news, 17,000 homes and other buildings threatened right now by california's wildfires. stay with us. liberty mutual saved us almost $800 when we switched our auto and home insurance. with liberty, we could afford a real babysitter instead of your brother. hey! oh, that's my robe. is it? 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"it's also going to burn, just like you planned," it read. alleged behavior milligan said he warned officials of in the past. i said, you have to take care of this or he's going to burn something or kill somebody. and that was three years ago. >> reporter: california's warm and dry conditions, including july, registering as the hottest month on error -- record here have created the perfect storm for wildfires. nearly 17,000 structures are threatened by three fires alone, as thousands of people have evacuated their homes. more than 13,000 firefighters are battling 19 major fires across the entire state, including what has already become the largest in california's history, the mendocino complex fire. on the front lines, a firsthand glimpse at how they're trying to fight it. controlled burns help get rid of any potential fuel that could help spread the wildfire. this fire is huge, but why has it been able to grow so big? >> our first priority is protecting the communities and the homes. secondly, in building our control lines, we have to use a national lly occurring geograph features to help us control the fire. >> reporter: back in southern california, residents here are grappling with the possibility that this destruction may be intention al intentional. already the second wildfire authorities here are calling arson. >> i have to say, i'm not surprised, however, i feel -- i just feel terrible that this has all gone down. >> reporter: and if you take a look right now, it looks like that fire is getting closer to that structure there. this is the concern, this is what they're trying to stop. but take a look also, wolf, at the thickness, the darkness of the smoke here. that tells you that it is finding new fire, new brush to burn through, and if you look to the right, you can see how clear it is, to show you that this darkness you're seeing here is strictly from the fire and the smoke here. the lake is over there, that is where they're going to pull up water from helicopters, from plains, to fight this fire, but, obviously, when you come this close to civilization, this is where the concern is and this is where they're battling right now. >> stephanie elam on the scene for us. let's bring in chief mike mueller, the deputy director of communications for cal fire. he's joining us now on the phone. chief, give us the latest on the progress you're making. is there any end in sight? >> right now, wolf, thank you for having us. what we're seeing right now across the state is explosive fire growth. like you mentioned, we have other 13,000 firefighters engaged. unfortunately, what we're going to see is red flag warnings throughout northern california, increased high temperatures in southern california, so it's really a statewide emergency. >> what's the toughest challenge for your firefighters out there on the front lines? >> i think right now, you know, one of the fires -- the mendocino complex being the largest in the state history, again, we're recovering, still not, from a drought of six years of dead and dying fuels, explosive fire growth, very difficult country, and then as you can see on the holy fire, what we call the wildland urban interface makes it very difficult for firefighters to get in there and protect property. >> do you expect the weather to shift in your favor anytime soon? >> we don't, for the next, unfortunately, seven days, the weather outlook is not in our favor. we have a lot of open fire line

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>> laura: no time for the last bite, but i will put on twitter. it has something to do with parents revolting against left-wing school boards. it is a story we will dive into big time next week. until then, have a great weekend paired everyone, shannon bream, "fox news @ night" ." ♪ >> shannon: this is a fox news alert. after arm twisting mexico and canada into a new trade deal, president trump looking ahead it to an even greater challenge tonight, winning contestants from chinese leader president xi jinping. is he shaking up the global world order like he promised to do on the campaign trail? plus, watching alaska, the state reeling after two earthquake hit its biggest city, anchorage. a report on the widespread damage but hello, welcome to "fox news @ night" come on shannon bream in new york paired with billions of tariffs on the table, the meeting between presidents trump and xi could be a tie between the two nations. john roberts joins us from pointless errors, where things -- where they stand tonight? good evening, john. >> good evening to you. good morning, actually, shannon. obvious they come in tomorrow night -- or tonight -- is going to be a big night with that dinner with xi. the president started off the g20 today with a bank i'm a big trade victory early this morning with henrique pena nato, the president of mexico, only the president of mexico until tomorrow, and along with justin trudeau, the prime minister of canada, signing the usmca, the united states-mexico-canada act, which they hope will be the final nail in the coffin of the nafta agreement paired a lot of skepticism whether this deal is any better than nafta was beer the president insisting today that it is beardless in here. >> president trump: this landmark agreement includes intellectual property protections that will be the envy of nations all around the world. the usmca also contains robust and new provisions on digital trade and financial services, and the most ambitious environmental and labor protections ever placed into a major trade agreement. anywhere, at any time. >> it is not a done deal just yet, even though the leaders have signed it, the president still needs to get it through congress, and there is a lot of skepticism, shannon, among many democrats, as to whether the labor protections in the new usmca are, in fact, strong enough. shannon. >> shannon: this high-stakes dinner coming up between president trump and xi, what can you tell us about what is on the line there? >> first of all, it is obvious lee safe to say this is the premier event of the g20 for the president. i think it is also safe to say that this is potentially the most important meeting he has had with a world leader all yea year. because what happens tomorrow night could well define with the u.s. and china trade relationship is going to be like four months, if not years to come. there is some optimism among u.s. officials that there could be some sort of a breakthrough. the president recently restarting talks with xi after the u.s. and china hit an impasse. u.s. officials have been using the word "profound disappointment" to describe how they feel that where china is in terms of trying to level the playing field with the united states. the big issues they have to get through, intellectual property theft, technology transfer, protection of tariffs on the part of china, a lot of other items paired the white house said there has been promising sy will not know whether they will move forward until tomorrow night's meeting peer listen to what the president said earlier today. >> president trump: we will be meeting tomorrow, and we have already spoken. we are working very hard, and we should make a deal that will be good. we will be reading meeting with president xi in a little while. in the meantime, people are working, our staff is working, a lot of very talented people working, larry kudlow's representatives working on a constant basis. there are some good signs. thank you. >> one interesting thing to note, the infamous china trade hawk peter navarro is going to be in tomorrow's meeting. earlier this year, the treasury secretary steven mnuchin boxed navarro out of talks with china, so the fact the president wants him there, obviously to send a single to china that the president wants to hold a hard line in terms of trying to level that trade playing field. one of the incentives the white house is considering, shannon, is to delay the implementation of increased tariffs on some $215 billion of chinese goods. 10% now, scheduled to go up to 25 percent on january 1st beer the white house playing with the idea of delaying that increase to april 1st to give both sides more time to work out an agreement. again, whether or not they do implement that delay really depends on how things go tonight. here in windows are as. shannon? >> shannon: john roberts traveling with the president, thank you very much. time now for tonight's power panel, cohost of "the five," juan williams. fox news conservator daniel hoffman, and chair of the program business and finance at kings college new york, brian blumberg. gentlemen, welcome to all of you. >> good to see be here. >> shannon: i want to start where john ended there, part of the dinner and conversation with president xi. i want to read something from "the wall street journal," they say there are tough economic signs right now for china, the headline "china's manufacturing engine starts to stutter," goes on to say it adds to the picture of a chinese economy that is growing broadly. something that puts the u.s. in a stronger position to negotiate in the trade battle. how do you see the u.s. going into this dinner? >> i think that day is really important, the president feels like he is in a strong position here. he is not willing to give up a lot. he wants to keep things moving forward, he wants the path forward. i think you're going to get something like that here, probably a cessation to the increases in tariffs so they can work out a deal. the president does feel like he is in a strong position paired peter navarro is there to signal that. he is going to ask a lot from the chinese, and if they don't give a lot here, don't expect a breakthrough, but do expect of the process to continue. again, into the spring, so there is time to get something meaningful done. >> shannon: down, there are so many other things to talk about with china, intellectual property, needing their help on north korea, not cooperating with shank sins, that being one of the top counterintelligence. >> there is a bipartisan support for the president trump's strong stance on trade. they are militarizing the south china sea, mounting espionage against us, and they have not been helpful on north korea, allowing them to bust through the sanctions. i think it is portends for strong negotiation, which will only help us. >> shannon: i want to talk about the fact, a lot of trade to talk about across a number of things. we will talk about the agreement with mexico and canada. he also had this to say about his talks with japan's leader, said there is more good news on that front. >> he needs people in this country. we have companies moving in. prime minister robbie of japan just called me they are moving s opening up, two mass of plants. don't hear that often, but a lot of that is happening. >> shannon: that sounds like good news, you know this president is all about making a deal. >> it is good news. it comes at a time when the american economy is in a strange place. we have seen a lot of the stock market gains of 2018 gone, shannon. we saw come of course, this week that general motors announced they were cutting 14,000 jobs in this country, and we know harley-davidson and carrier and others have sent jobs overseas, in part because of the trade wars, and some people pointing at the trade tariffs on steel and aluminum as driving up the cost of automobiles. i think what the president just pointed out is good news, it would help to alleviate that. the problem, of course, going forward is that when you engage in trade wards -- especially with china, which is the largest holder of u.s. debt -- you have to have something to say to the american people at this moment, because the markets are not going to react positively, even if there is a delay, as we heard from john roberts, but takes us to april. they want good news. if they want to hear there is something of a deal that ends all of this talk of tariffs and trade wars. >> shannon: for good announcements today, talking about this new deal that he has been tough with mexico and canada, and he says tough talks, tough actions, that is what brought them to the table for this new deal. it has to get approval from congress. here is what one of the dash probably opponents -- at least a skeptic at this point, democratic senator elizabeth warren. >> as it is currently written, trump's a deal won't stop the serious and ongoing harms nafta causes american workers. it won't stop outsourcing, it won't raise wages, and it won't create jobs. it is nafta 2.0. your >> shannon: norte? >> it is laughable you have democrats coming out and criticizing the president for the usmca not being tough enough. first of all, they were never proposing anything as an alternative to nafta. now that he has done something, their critique is "it is not tough enough." this new deal has a lot of things that a lot of democrats have called for for a very long time. you can like it or not like it, but the president took the initiative to put something together, and he has shown he can get a deal done. it is very important when you're talking with china, because now it puts a china in the spot of saying, look, if you want the deal done, the president is ready, but you have to step up to the plate. i think a lot of criticism from democrats is really disingenuous. they just weren't honest this issue to begin with, not something is gotten done, they are saying it is not enough. where do you fall? you have to pick a side here. >> shannon: i want to bowl something else, a lot of headlines today, that is very cozy greeting between the crown prince of saudi arabia and russian president vladimir putin, a lot of people looked at that and said, while not, they see very comfortable together. quick reaction. >> it is difficult to read all that body language, beyond saying they are apparently very comfortable with each other, to the point of high fives amongst two bodies, two bros. >> shannon: a little bit of a bromance. >> what we have seen from the saudi arabian leaders recently, everybody is well aware of the murder of jamaal khashoggi, "the washington post" writer, done in a be steel way, the idea that he is even there, welcome in the company of other world leaders, is troubling. why wouldn't they speak harshly to him about that kind of behavior? >> shannon: let's bring in dan for his comment. >> i would say this is vladimir putin, kgb operative and the kremlin, trying to drive a wedge between us. remember mohammad bin salman's father visited moscow, the first saudi king to do for. i think vladimir putin sees the opportunity for a photo op. that is been a strategy of his for some time. >> shannon: dan, juan, brian, thank you very much. great to see you tonight. >> thank you. >> shannon: on the sidelines of the g20 summit, a private conversation heard between president emmanuel macron and the saudi prince. macron is lavishly not happy. leland vittert has details for us. >> we have heard recently that the body language in unscripted moments of world leaders at these summit tell us far more. today, you do not need a microphone to tell who was friends. >> crown prince mohammad bin salman received a high five from a grinning russian president vladimir putin. contrast that with the earful the prints received from french president emmanuel macron. lip readers might try to interpret what made putin so happy, and the camera cut away quickly, but macron made no secret of his displeasure. >> translator: there is the case of khashoggi. >> they say the video shows a contrast between emmett b.s.'s face and the french president's face, we are not going to play hide and seek for 48 hours. the 33-year-old prince is accused of ordering the murder of a journal must jamal khashoggi. secretary of state mike pompeo gave the prince a lifeline. >> i believe i have read every piece of intelligence in the last few hours, i think i read it all, there is no direct reporting connecting the crown prince to the order to murder it jamal khashoggi, that is all i can say in an unclassified setting. >> missing from the video greeting to the prince is that of president trump, the caption of one photo showing the two of them together, described the scene as "trump glances at and walks past the saudi." white house officials say they exchanged pleasantries at the leader session, he, meaning the president, as he did with nearly any every other leader and attention. >> shannon: that is what they do. leland vittert, thank you very much. this is a fox news alert, to, residents of anchorage picking up their city after back-to-back earthquakes rocked the state pay locals describing the scene is what they call pure anarchy. correspondent with an update. >> they are still assessing the damage in anchorage, and will be for at least the next couple of days. this was a powerful, magnitude t 10 miles north of anchorage. the shaking began at 8:30 in the morning, lasted for over a minute. when it was over, several roads were severely damaged, bridges crumbled, water mains burst, sending water to the frozen streets. gas lines broke, starting house fires, there were rock slides, a tsunami warning issued but later canceled, the airport was shut down for a time due to a power outage. it is now fully open. some 40,000 people are still without power. it is a big concern with temperatures in the 20s. the 800-mile long trans alaska was shut down for seven hours, but checked out with no damage, and the oil is flowing again. the video is dramatic, check out the scene on the six floor of the courthouse in downtown anchorage, lawyers ducking for cover as the building sways. there are no reports of deaths, and the most serious injury recorded is a man who suffered burns fighting a fire in his home. schools are shut down and won't reopen until the middle of next week, so the buildings can be examined. kids were stranded on buses, and some were sheltering at fire stations. this was the most devastating earthquake to hit anchorage since the 9.2 catastrophic quake in 1964. there were harrowing moments for those on the road. one was in his truck when the earth started shaking pretty bailed out, and the road he was on collapse. >> the whole ground opening up in front of you, is this time? is this the day? i got out of the truck, started running the other direction, looking to make sure there were other places on the ground opening up. >> he told me he feels lucky to be alive, the governor declared a disaster, president trump promised aid. rebuilding will take monsters some of the roads will not be repaired for months because they have to thaw first. >> shannon: a tough situation there tonight. dan, thank you very much. james comey fighting back, asking aiden judge to toss a congressional subpoena ordering him to show up and testify next week. comey says it is about transparency, but not everyone is buying that explanation. ♪ >> there try to run the clock, that is why they filed a motion. >> shannon: chief correspondent catherine herridge examines that and the latest development in the rush investigation, what they mean for one member of the trump family. plus, a san francisco judge is added again, ruling on the trump administration's new asylum policy. plus, shocking video of an nfl player goes viral appeared when did the league know, and didn't move fast enough on the latest claims of violence 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because of mueller's teams want information that he cannot provide. sentencing is scheduled for march. a day after the president's former personal attorney pled guilty to lying to congress, donald trump juniors senate tested testimony is under scrutiny. the president sons that he knew "very little about the deal." a russian foreign real estate developer had the idea for a penthouse for russian president vladimir putin. did not comment on the proposal, but said "no matter how you build this caliber of a project, you need cooperation of local government." a former just a deferment official is reserving judgment. >> the question is whether it crosses the line to criminal wrongdoing on the part of the president. i think that is the big question. politically damaging, yes, but legal consequences to be determined. >> fox news has learned the president's legal team is revisiting the 2017 request to mueller and deputy attorney general rod rosenstein to investigate former fbi director james comey over the accuracy of his sworn congressional testimony. comey is lawyers were in court today arguing for a subpoena for a closed-door interview under oath. accused of using the same legal tactics as the firm behind the anti-trump dossier. >> he is trying to run the clock on us, and that is why we think he filed this motion to quash -- fusion gps also tried that. they were knock down, and instead, he came in, glenn simpson came in and took the fifth. >> late today, the judge said he might rule on the comey coming subpoena as early as monday. he is accusing some committee members of selective leaks, even though 16 other witnesses agree to a closed-door interview, including former senior fbi leadership, shannon. >> shannon: catherine herridge, thank you very much. as catherine said, a ruling tonight unfired fbi director james comey's subpoena. we should have word on monday, . let's turn to former clinton pollster doug schon, and erica taxis, best selling author. i want to start with something -- catherine covered the waterfront. i want to start with some of the cohen issues. this is what rudy giuliani, former mayor of new york, and a part of the legal team for the president, said hysterical coverage of it misses that leaked documents demonstrate that mueller's crew have no evidence of collusion. along the way, he is keeping america face safe from false statement makers or faulty memories. >> the former mayor's right, there is no showing, no assertion of collusion involving president trump. what there is a showing of is the real estate deal, or the proposed deal, which supposedly ended in january 2016, carried on to june of 2016, while trump was running for president. the problem there, shannon, is the president was negotiating with an adversarial power to do a business deal -- >> shannon: according to cohen peered he has told a different story before. >> that is all true, but it is something that bears further study, scrutiny, and, frankly, questions. >> shannon: not so surprising "the new york times" would see this differently pair this is what they say. the guilty plea demonstrate the crimes are real. what is more, already numerous cases filed in districts that will likely bear others. it is only a matter of time before even mr. trump won't be able to treat them away. >> isn't that poetic? if only it were true. here is the issue, i happen to have written a book with a very simple title "donald drains the swamp." it is no coincident get what we are talking about, ultimately, the big picture, we can get down of these weeds, the big picture is there has been collusion, collusion by people who so hated this president and so thought him utterly unthinkable in the role of president, before he became president, when he became president, and since he has become president, they have been doing everything they can to get rid of him. when you hear about a fisa warrant gotten under false pretenses, that they didn't reveal what needed to be revealed, you hear things like this almost every day, another piece of the puzzle. when you think about the team that mueller assembled, he didn't even try to make it look fair. as far as i'm concerned, it is horrific, it is the definition of the swamp. it is the enemy of free self government. when have that going on, it needs to be drained. i think the president is strong enough to withstand this, and i think, in the end, you are going to see it -- finally, there will be a boomerang effect, and we will shining light on the snake pit called the clinton foundation, and you are going to see things that will make everything we are talking about today -- no one will talk about it anymore because it is so small. that is my theory. you can check in with me in six months. >> shannon: we will, because we have been hearing so much about the clinton foundation, i can't imagine democrats will want anything to do with investigating vapid when they take control of the house in january. >> they're not. i'm a democrat. i think, in fairness, while there were a lot of talking points and rhetoric in what eric said, what i take for it and what i believe is built to look at the clinton foundation, look at uranium one, look at the fund-raising, less air things out. also, robert mueller, i think we have a lot of issues that bear further investigation and further airing. let the sunshine and let jim comey testify. if i could finish -- if you let me finish. thank you. what i would say is comey, who leaked himself, is now saying he doesn't want to testify in private because he is afraid of leaks. there is an irony there. >> shannon: he will testify publicly, in the open, we can all watch it on tv. >> it is so dirty. i'm convinced that all of them are deathly afraid of what is going to come out. we don't talk about the fact that hillary clinton was the one that got the dossier, that was presented -- all of that stuff, you want to air things out, all of that stuff -- >> air both out is what i'm saying. 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top democrats have been questioning the interior secretary 's ethics and policies for months. now, the congressman is likely just weeks away from becoming the committee's chairman, and today, he threatened to intensify come january. >> a and a scathing op-ed, the congressman said interior secretary ryan zinke must resign. the multiple scandals show he is unfit to serve. zinke has faced at least 17 investigations into his conduct since taking office, and several are still ongoing. from holt reports he used taxpayer funds private flights, to a probe in montana referred to the justice department. >> i'm 10 for 10. i've been investigated on my socks, investigated taking jets, which i don't. ten investigations completed, and you know they all say? ryan zinke follows all the rules, all the regulations, all the procedures. this is politically-motivated -- in montana we call it -- b.s. >> saying in the op-ed that zinke is embroiled in disasters, the least he can do a step down here the secretary responded by attacking the congressman's well-known troubles with alcohol, tweeting "it is hard for him to think straight from the bottom of the bottle." this is coming from a man who used nearly $50,000 in tax dollars as hush money to cover up his drunken and hostile behavior. he should resign, and pay back the taxpayers for the tens of thousands of dollars he forced my department to spend investigating unfounded allegations." zinke was referring to reports that in 2015 he paid a female aide nearly $50,000 in taxpayer-funded settlements after she complained about his drinking and creating a hostile work environment. the congressman says the allegations against secretary zinke are incredible and serious, instead of addressing the substantive issues raised in the op-ed, he is resorting to personal attacks. and all of this is happening on the same day that the trump administration took a major step toward allowing offshore oil testing in the atlantic, a move the congressman 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graduate student claims that she has been asked to move out of her apartment because of her legally owned guns. there is a lot more to the story, correspondent trace gallagher is on on the c. trace? >> leila perrone, who legally owns firearms and is trained in gun safety recently came back from a weekend trip to find her six roommate had searched her closet, bad, and drawers, to find her guns. when she asked them why, she claims they said "we saw you had a maga hat, and we assumed you had something." they also emailed the landlord saying they were uncomfortable with having firearms in the house, adding "their presence causes anxiety and deprives us of the quiet enjoyment of the premise to which we are entitled." the landlord contacted local police to make sure the guns were legal, and she allowed the police to check out the weapons. despite find in the legal and she was compliant, she got an email from her landlord saying "since it is clear she wants to keep her firearms, it would be best for all parties if she finds another place to live. she rejected the request to move out and was told that if she didn't leave, she would be forced to pay her roommates rent, a lofty $6,000 a month. i demand she says it is reasonable, quoting "either i leave and incur moving expenses, or my roommates move and i incur their rent expenses." not only is this a blatant violation of my privacy, but also a violation of my rights." we should note, the reason she says she owns guns in the first place is because she had been in a physically abusive relationship, quoting again, i had a real and legitimate reason as to why i want to protect myself. for now, pirnie says she wants to focus on studying for her upcoming finals. channing. >> shannon: trace gallagher, thank you very much. as their legal case here for layla bernie? let's talk about it, it is time for night court. tonight's attorneys are at david bruno and bob bianchi. thank you both for being in today. if you got the gist of the story, she talks about being gone for the weekend, and while she was gone, the roommates went through her room, essentially ransacking the place, going through every drawer, the closet, everything else, they found guns and were worried. when they asked why in the room to begin with, they each came up with completely contradicting stories, none of which made sense, but one comment struck me in particular. "we saw that you had a maga hat, and you are from alabama, we assumed you had something." david? >> the ability of the landlord to prevent guns from being in a home is very different than a town or a state prohibiting it. this is a private citizen. she does have the right, believe it or not, there is no federal statute, no case law that prohibits it. it really comes down to the state. does the state prohibited, does it allow it? massachusetts is silent, so it allows -- he can say to the tenants, "no guns" bear the problem for the landlord here is going to be with the lease. if he didn't put her on notice, he may have a problem on that point. but if he did, or if the lease expires, he has the right to say, "no guns in my house. >> shannon: on findlaw.com, one attorney says it only protects the them from intrusio. they receive state or federal funding, the second amendment is unlikely to apply. >> she has a right under the second amendment to possess the weapons, so it is not governmental action, this is a contract case. she has a valid lease, it does not prohibit these weapons. the landlord called the police, the police came and said they are lawfully in her possession. they are safe and secure. there is nothing we can do. who committed a crime here are these people who go ransacking her room and trespassed and invade her privacy. if you don't like it when the lease is over, get out. the landlord made a big mistake here. the land lord basically said -- there is a good snow my disagreement between yu two, so he decided in his wisdom on nonsolomon, if you will, you who is trespassed upon, your privacy invaded, you should be the one to go, not as a problem for the landlord. >> shannon: it sounds like there were several roommate, and then her. to your point, the police officer who came over, and ask him to come. the gun owner welcome tim, said come over. everything was legal, that is not the issue. >> the landlord has said is easier to get rid of one and then five. little did he know that we would be talking about this case on fox news right now. now he has a problem, because if he starts litigation -- he can't just remove her immediately. this is going to be an eviction proceeding. he doesn't know how it is going to come out. then the five can leave, and now he could be in problems with both. so the landlord has problems, but if the lease is an issue, but if it is not in the lease, he does have a legal right to prohibit it under the federal -- >> the fact of the matter is, if he kicks her out, she has a legal action against the roommate and him, and those other ones leave, she is going to sue them for the excess rent. i would bring the landlord in, saying you cause this to happen. >> shannon: part of the email from the roommates -- or they didn't copy her on it, they want to be transparent about this, sent it to the management, landlord guy. they said this, or having guns, legally or not, "this makes all the rest of us very uncomfortable and feeling unsafe. their presence causes anxiety and deprives us of the quiet enjoyment of the premises to wh we are entitled." >> it is the last word that is most important, "are entitled." you are entitled to nothing, you are entitled to make sure someone is not violating the law, i got that. but because your feelings are hurt over something doesn't mean you have the legal recourse to tell someone who is following her constitutional rights and in lawful possession of a weapon -- grow up. it is a problem with too much entitlement. you need to be able to deal with the situation, and after the lease is over, if you don't like it, get out, or get out ahead of time and pay the cost of the lease you are leaving early. >> those girls, they did trespassed. when they went into her room -- >> shannon: we all think that is a problem. >> it is. if anyone has records, i think it is the one who says "i have the right to have my gun." >> shannon: great to see both of you. you at home are our jury, so treat us. stick around on the latest of the caravan. we have our guest from the border patrol council come a lot to say about what is happening down there. and new demands of the braggarts are making. ♪ if you have postmenopausal osteoporosis and a high risk for fracture now might not be the best time to ask yourself are my bones strong? life is full of make-or-break moments. that's why it's so important to help reduce your risk of fracture with prolia®. only prolia® is proven to help strengthen and protect bones from fracture with 1 shot every 6 months. do not take prolia® if you have low blood calcium, are pregnant, are allergic to it, or take xgeva®. serious allergic reactions, like low blood pressure; trouble breathing; throat tightness; face, lip, or tongue swelling; rash; itching; or hives have happened. tell your doctor about dental problems as severe jaw bone problems may happen or new or unusual pain in your hip groin, or thigh, as unusual thigh bone fractures have 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years. george herbert walker bush was born on june 12th, 1924, in milton massachusetts, just south of boston. he was a decorated u.s. navy pilot, flue torpedo bombers, he survived being shot down in world war ii. he was an amazing hero. he met barbara pierce at a christmas dance, when they were just teenagers. they got married in 1945 when he was home on leave from the war. their letters back and forth are amazing, if you've read some of those beard he later graduated from yale university, moved with barbara to texas to work in the oil business. that is where he eventually got into politics, became a congressman, ran for president in 1980. remember, he lost the republican nomination to ronald reagan, but became his vice president. finally, eight years later, he took the oath of office himself as commander in chief. remember this, a lot of foreign policy achievements on his watch, the berlin wall came down, the soviet union collapse collapsed. when saddam hussein invaded kuwait, president bush led an international coalition that defeated the iraqi forces. he also started the points of light foundation to promote community service across the country, really around the world. after leaving the white house, former first lady barbara bush started her own charity to help more people learn to read, all about literacy. they were married 73 years, longer than any other first couple in history. they had six children, including a daughter, who died of leukemia when she was just three years old. they talked about how heartbreaking and difficult that was for their family. their eldest son, george w. bush, became the 43rd president of the united states. in total, they had 17 grandchildren, a eight great grandchildren pit after barbara bush died, her husband said she would want mike to go on. also said, "across the bushes off your worry list." tonight, they are together agai again. george h.w. bush, the 41st president of the states, where just getting a statement and from his son, president george w. bush, he said jab, neil, marvin, dora, and i are all saddened to announce that after 94 remarkable years, our dear dad has died. george h.w. bush was a man of the highest character, and the best dad a son or daughter could ask for. the entire bush family is deeply grateful for 41's life and love, for the compassion of those who have cared and prayed for dad, and for the condolences of our friends and fellow citizens." again, president george hw bush, our 41st president, dead tonight at the age of 94. as we think back on all he accomplished, i mention the foreign policy, a lot of folks will follow the bush 41 presidency and written about it and thought about it since his years in the time of the white house, that will be what . important meetings, tearing down important barriers on the international stage here he was a statement, a diplomat, the head of the cia at one point, worked across the board -- around the globe, trying to build alliances, make changes that have lasted for a generation on. we will always remember his contributions to this country, and he, again, from 1924 to 2018, a war hero, we talked about his time as a navy pilot, if you ever read into the stories of what he survived after being shot down, it reminds us of what a real hero is, someone who is tough, and somebody who battled on. of course, the great love affair with his wife, barbara bush, who died earlier this year. it is one that takes your breath away when you read their letters back and forth, you look at the origins of their start and what they went through as a family, what they suffered in losing a child, ended going through many, many ups and downs, difficult campaigns that didn't always go their way. there were many times that they had each other's backs anyway nobody else could have. they were fierce defenders of each other and of their families, their children, their grandchildren. earlier this summer, you may remember one of his granddaughters was married, barbara bush, and she said, it was very important for her to be there, have him there with her on her special day. brad blakeman on the phone with us tonight. brad, this is sad news. i'm sure you have many, many memories -- fond once -- of our 41st president. >> absolutely. he was a statesman, a gentleman, serve our country in so many capacities over so many years. he leaves a legacy that would be honorable for anyone to follow in his footsteps. the youngest fire pilot in world war ii, elected to congress, served as our rnc chair, first envoy to china, his life is full of giving back in service. i have the honor of working with vice president bush -- president bush, and of course, his son, the entire family, an amazing family. they are so close and tight and loving, and the president loved america. he loved his family, and he lived a life for this country. >> shannon: he did. a lot of folks, there are so many different things about him, when we look back, a lot of people forget he had tough campaigns he didn't win, and he has talked about those and how they prepared and for the next step. he also had a very amazing chapter at the cia that was critical, really paid dividends now the mine, where he served further on in the government. >> i don't think we've ever had a president that was more qualified to serve. he had so many critical roles at critical times in our history, bringing our country together after watergate, as you pointed out, critical time in the cia, intelligence community, serving as vice president for ronald reagan, took on the soviet union, the wall came down, george hw george h.w. bus president. an entire relationship that has now blossomed into a china that is not only a competitor of the united states, but also a friend of the united states. this family has done so much -- of course, barbara bush, every bit the partner of president bush. they were inseparable. we mourn her loss this year, as well. we are just so saddened, but we are also glad end by the fact we got to know him, got to work for him, the honor of serving him and our country, knowing, first and foremost, he was decent. republican or democrat, he cared about service and honor, and that is the first legacy.

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body tapping. >> you know what's then? this is better than cooking at home. i mean, more affordable than groceries, of course. okay. groceries are expensive, but i was in trouble there for a sec. >> you are? well, it's time to make another connection. a game show legend. return break out here. leg warmers, coolers and parachute pants for the ultimate eighties. >> pop culture tribute to 83 show streaming now on fox nation america is streaming. >> thank you, emily, my love. this cat cares. >> laura: good evening, i'm laura laura, "the ingraham angle." the bidens have been able to escape legal accountability for sleazy, corrupt conduct. today their luck ran out. he was found guilty on three charges he faced in the federal gun trial. the angle long maintained while not insignificant, this open and shut case is lease serious of all biden schemes exposed by investigators and receiptors. given we know he was often a drug addled mess who frequented with prostitutes, we ask again, what expertise did he have when china decides to pay him tens of millions of dollars and why have the bidens lied about joe's involvement. they are one of the richest families in politics and no one has explained what hunter, jim or the other bidens did to get paid other than showcasing their connection to the big guy. new speaker: he got 40 million from jim biden, which was 10% ironically, for the big guys of the fees and $200,000 linked from flun pedalling scheme from americorp health. we found a quarter million dollars that joe biden got. new speaker: that is a drop in the buck etand the biden boosters tried to counter any notion that the justice system is unfairly targeting donald trump. new speaker: you have a president of the united states who is living embodiment of the rule of law with respect to his only living son. >> he was a crack addict who had an affair with his dead brother's wife and turned that poor woman to crack, as well. he was convicted in wilmington, i guess delaware is sick of the bidens. joining me is former law clerk to gorsuch and attorney for i.r.s. whistleblowers who say the doj tried to of coer up the tax probe to hunter biden. i have heard some describe this conviction as tip of the iceberg, red herring or fig leaf. what is your takeaway? >> it's a side show, we have this democrat-picked u.s. attorney in delaware, allen weisselberg david weiss who tried to have a sweetheart plea deal. this judge called them out on that and we have gun charges that don't tie to joe biden, only to hunter biden. these are serious charges, hunter biden, 97% of people convicted of this gun charge go to prison for many years. we'll see what happens to hunter biden. >> laura: the case likely never would have been brought or exposed, not been for irs whistleblowers and they were trashed by the regime media. >> yeah, they absolutely were. before they came back and forward, before we sent the letter to congress indicating shapley intended to go forward, they were going to let it die and do nothing. when gary shapley came forward, you see leslie wolf reached out to hunter biden's team for a plea deal. doj and i.r.s. proved massive charges against hunter biden and decided to let them drop one by one. >> laura: given what we knew and what had come to light, it is curious they did not decide to plead this out. given utter disgrace reigning down on the biden family because of everything that has come out as a result of this, were they used to getting away with stuff or thought he could do no wrong or what? >> they flew jill biden back and forth from europe to delaware, i think as show of political force and it seems this delaware jury surprisingly did not go with the power play of the bidens and followed the facts and law here. >> laura: one thing in today's coverage of this is how the media quickly shifted to white w washing the concern about what has bveen done to president trup in state and federal court and isn't this great that the biden family is huddled up together supporting each other. comms director kate bedingfield said this. >> the biden family is close, close knit, they lean on each other. i worked for joe biden for eight years, i sat in the oval office when a member of the office would call him and he would step out to take a call from his family. he puts family first. this is very hard. >> laura: they put family first with money, as well. they had family tragedy, drug addiction is a charge thing. it has been hard for the people who tried to come up against the bidens, including the whistleblowers you represented and no one cared about them. >> hunter biden is suing i.r.s. ident identifying gary shapley and zie ziegler, the subject of the suit and we had to stop doj from taking a dive in this case. that is ome happening because hunter biden is bringing this suit and making outlandish accusations. >> laura: people call tip of the iceberg, red herring. mike calls it a side show. we'll see what happens in the sentencing. if what we saw last nights at the white house, it should be this, joe biden is not the one making major decisions. pre-k >> our freedom can never be secured. >> laura: we checked white house transcript for the transulation, he tried to say she knew as long as history was denied, our freedom can never be secured. he tried to talk about our founding. >> black soldiers were linked in line of patriots, ricked thrisk their lives -- american soil is. quality and freedom. >> laura: then he tried to clap. >> to the people on this side, clap your hands. people right here, clap your hands. people up top, clap your hands. >> laura: the dancing was better, right? >> laura: maybe you could argue it was late, he was tired, i don't think that is today. >> be pro-abolishing the aft. >> laura: i think he meant the atf. byron donalds joins us now. isn't a vote for biden, this is a vote for president harris? >> laura, it absolutely is, because we know it is just not conceivable that joe biden would last another four years. this is not a good situation. people have been having fun with it and laughing about it on social media. it is quite funny. it is sad when you know he is the person that has to engage with world leaders and making so many decisions with respect to what the federal agencies are doing. these decisionings are being made by people never empowered to be the president of the united states. voting for him in this election means giving power to somebody else, that is not what the american people should be doing and look at policy and realize if he was making decisions, they are god-awful decisions that have made our people less safe. >> laura: last night biden seemed to refer to republicans at one point, watch. >> they are all ghosts in new garments trying to take us back. they are taking away your freedoms, making it harder for black people to vote, attacking, diversity, equity and inclusion. >> laura: congressknow ma, using ghost, i don't know if a cute staffer was making an illusion to the kkkor what, did it land? >> no, it is incredibly sad. you have a president and white house and campaign team going to try to sew division and fear and sew that everybody else is tearing down this country when they are the ones that spied on the more than people. they leave our borders wide open. they have destroyed purchasing power of hard working men and women of america and seniors in america. people we should be afraid of are joe biden and campaign. we need a change this november, change is coming in the form of donald trump. >> laura: i wasn't going to mention this, this is important to play this and see how desperate department to put someone like you down because you disagree with them. this is congresswoman crocket. >> if we put people in office, skin folk, not our kin folk, like byron donalds, do you not understand history or because you married a white woman and you think it white wash you. they give him talking points and yes, master, i got it. >> laura: they said the same thing about condoleeza rice a and -- congressman, your response? >> jasmine sits on committee with me, she could have came and talked to me any time she wants to. nobody tells me what to say, everybody says that, i say what i think and speak my mind. policies of her party have been damaging toern ms, been damaging to black americans and americans have a choice, do they learn to tropes and fearmongering and gaslighting of department or are they going to look at policies, what matters in their pocketbook and support republicans this november? that simple. >> laura: thanks so much tonight. coming up next, merrick garland's doj has become its own theme in the babylon bee, i'll explain the hypocrisy. but don't kcritical race th theoryicize them. my angle is next. >> laura: garland's tragic comedy, the focus of tonight's angle. all right, just when we thought comedy was dead, someone from biden's cabinet publishes an oped. merrick garland other than waed everyone to stop being so mean, stop picking on the doj. we've seen escalation of attacks, far beyond criticism and oversight, they are base lsz, personal and dangerous to defund depend investigation, special counsel prosecution of the former president. to quote john mcrenrow, you cannot be serious, the man prosecuting the gop front-runner and warn parents who stand up at school board meetings and warning about traditional athlicks, that guy is upset about criticism? check your constitution, sir, it is congress' job to decide how to spend the money allocated to each department, not up to you and your activists. garland knows this, he just does not care and does not care about the rule regarding audio recordings about classified documents found in his garage. last week garland tried to claim it was an attack on the doj. >> these attacks have not and will not influence our decision-making. i will not be intimidated and the justice department will not be intimidated and we will not back down from defending democracy. >> laura: defending democracy? that is what you call stonewalling legitimate oversight? that man unleashed federal prosecutors and agents, spent taxpayer money to track and intimidate and jail january 6 on . the fact he wrote this op ed is only more evidence of the political nature of everything they do over there. because not only is garland wrong about the law, he fails to address republicans in congress who have cataloged myriad ways he has used doj for political retribution and he calls the attacks false claims in this mes made by those trying to influence the election. that is what he argues. e able to campaign freely without doj interference in a presidential election year that's trying to influence the outcome of an election? that's their argument? who wrote this piece? you see, all we want is for people to be able to vote for the candidate of their choosing. but to garland, and his political hit squad, a trump victory would, itself. be a threat to democracy. wrap your mind around that. we trust the people. but they don't. which is why they want a judge to decide it all and the same reason why they want as many illegals to rush in as possible to eventually vote in a far left super majority. garland's professed concern for protecting institutions and democracy is also belied by the glaring fact that at this very moment, his party is launching a 24/7 campaign to discredit the supreme court. pro-biden activists are secretly tape recording justices in an attempt to delegitimize future court decisions. news flash, by the way, justice alito believes in god, like totally. >> like, people in this country who believe in god, keep fighting for that to return our country to a place of godliness. >> well, i agree with you. i agree with you. >> i support your ruling on dobbs. i support, like, i'm very pro-life, but, like, you know, i don't know how we bridge that gap, you know, like how do we get people. >> i wish i knew. i wish i knew. i don't know. it's not -- i don't think it's something we can do. >> we have a very defined role. >> yes. >> we need to do what we are supposed to do. >> laura: aside from the fact that there is nothing remotely problematic about what alito said remember he said a defined role we play and that's all we can do. does merrick garland support now the secret recordings of justices? >> did people who want to pearl clutch about this, you know, please tell me how we're going to get answers when the supreme court has been shrouded in secrecy and really just refusing any degree of accountability whatsoever, particularly in the face of, you know, what are very like extraordinarily serious ethic breaches. are we going to continue our tradition of secular democracy or led to christian theocracy? >> laura: christian theocracy. they are trotting that out again. in god we trust. christian theocracy. what a vile woman. or just a stupid woman. again, they don't care. the left is going to do anything they can to prop up a man fossilizing before our very eyes. they are going to turn a blind eye as justices are harassed at their homes, only stepping in by the way when a suspect literally planned to kill justice kavanaugh. and they will do nothing as leftist assault law enforcement or deface war memorials, right across from the white house. but they will prosecute three people in connection with skid marks on a pride flag. check out the difference between the two vandalized areas. happened on different coasts but it sends the same message. all fair minded people know what is going on here. the double standard, the irony, the hypocrisy is lost on biden's foot soldiers wh rip into the supreme court. only to claim republicans don't respect the rule of law. >> what size chip is on the shoulder of samuel alito no. grace one of nine human beings sitting for life on the supreme court. there is bitterness, anger and a plan for delayed revenge. these attacks have an overwhelming liquor retrospective and dangerous effect on the very foundations of pillars of democracy. and again, the rule of law is under attack. rachel's words it needs to be protected. so, it was heartening, seems like maybe he was listening when attorney general merrick garland submitted to the "the washington post" today an op-ed that served as something of a public warning. >> laura: protect the rule of law by taping supreme court justices and trying to delegitimize that institution. nice try. you just cannot make this up. do they even realize what they're saying? given how much time these people have spent contorting and twisting the law and the facts, i suggest they just quit their day jobs and maybe join circle da soleil or something. that's the angling. joining me now chris landau former law clerk to justices thomas and scalia and former ambassador to mexico. chris let's talk about the attack on the supreme court at the same time merrick garland is saying stop being mean to me and drying to delegitimize this institution of justice. >> welling laura, it's incredible how he is trying to blur the lines between legitimate criticism of the department of justice and, you know, threats and unacceptable forms of coercion. is he trying to make it seem like the department of justice is immune and imperspective yus to criticism. i mean, this is the most politicized department of justice in the united states history. i mean, this is the first time in history the department of justice is indicting the president's primary political opponent. the double standard has never been more brazen between whom they are prosecuting and what they're prosecuting for and what they're not prosecuting. and the fact that they are not even attempting, not even putting a fig leaf in an attempt to enforce fundamental laws like our border laws. we have never seen anything like this before in american history. for him to say it's beyond the pale to criticize the department of justice is astonishing. >> laura: because hunter is convicted on an obvious gun charge and three different charges, obvious open and shut case, everything that we say about what they're doing to trump is invalid. it's all good now. we're all good. that's kind of what they are doing, chris. >> again, the crazy thing about hunter is what about all the stuff that isn't charged here? i mean, the gun is only -- you knows, the tip of an iceberg of allegations. much more serious crimes and crimes that directly implicate potential crimes that directly implicate the president. which the gun crime, obviously does not. >> laura: right. easy, easy. easy piecey. chris, i want to move on to what the supreme court justices are facing now from the left. again, the same people who say the republicans are attacking fundamental norms and institutions, have no problem activists going on and taping supreme court justices. i don't think anything alito said was anything remotely problematic. your reaction tonight? >> totally agree. >> imagine what at the these people are doing. tasked justice leaders very defined task of interpreting and applying the law this activist says they need political accountability as if they are politicians. that's the whole point. they are judges. they read the laws and interpret them. but, you know, again, this person clearly, in your tape, was asking questions under false pretenses, trying to egg on the justice. and he had a very, i think, appropriate response? but basically, you know, the gloves are off for these people. no blow is too low. and then they claim that everything else is a danger to democracy. i mean, i think it's a danger to democracy when they're failing to enforce the law and they are brazenly, you know, one sided in their application of the law. and what they're trying to imprison the president's chief political rival. how is that not a danger to democracy, laura? >> laura: no, it's a danger to democracy when trump wins. chris, that's the irony of all of this. chris, always great to see you. >> democratic process. >> laura: that's correct. >> that's the threat to democracy. >> laura: chris, thank you so much. all right. who is coming across our border now? you will not believe this. plus, this woman is accused of stabbing a 3-year-old to death. and she is smiling. that's next. ♪ have you ever thought of getting a walk-in tub for you or someone you love? now is a great time to take a look at getting a safe step walk-in tub. with safe step's standard heated seat and new fast fill faucet, you can enjoy a nice warm bath up to 20% faster! and the convenient touch pad control is right at your fingertips. each tub comes standard with a dual hydrotherapy system. the ten water jets can help increase mobility, relieve pain, boost energy, and improve sleep. while the microsoothe advanced air therapy system oxygenates and softens skin. safe step walk-in tubs are built to maximize safety. so you can stay in your home and enjoy the comforts of bathing again. so call now for more information and a free no obligation consultation. >> laura: evil personified. this woman, smirking in court, after being seen on camera and accused of one of the worst crimes imaginable. fox's bill melugin has details. bill. >> bill: this story makes your blood boil. the woman accused of butchering a three-year-old boy can be smirking in court. she was smiling and giggling as she had counts read. >> the defendant did knowingly cause serious physical harm. >> bill: one week after ellis allegedly stabbed the child to death and wounded his 38-year-old mom outside a store in cleveland. the little boy in court could be seen in court while the woman smirked in front of them. >> your honor, one week ago she took everything from us. it is horrendous, i wish no bail period or extend to the max that you can at the very least. do whatever you can to keep this monster behind bars. >> bill: authorities describe this attack as a random act of violence. ellis pleaded not guilty to murder and attempted murder. the judge gave ellis $5 million bond and ordered she remain in custody. she could face the death penalty if convicted. back to you. >> laura: thank you. eight men with icu ties were just arrested after crossing the border illegally. these illegals received full vetting after crossing and no incri incriminating information was tabbed at the time. days, joining me now chad wolf former actinacting dhs secretary, under secretary under president trump. chad, we don't know when these illegals crossed. but we do know that -- the way this is kind of being reported it's like everybody giving themselves a pat on the back for the sting operation, okay. i guess. i guess. but, they should never have been allowed in this country in the first place. >> well, that's exactly right. it's this type of instance that certainly kept me up at night as acting secretary when we had just a fraction of individuals trying to enter this country illegally. so i can only imagine what it is doing or should be doing to president biden, secretary mayorkas and others. but, look, our vetting, i think what this tells you is that our vetting is only as good as the information that we get from countries. and the best information we get are for our allies so country like tajikistan and others we don't get very good vetting so we have a difficult time understanding who these individuals are that are coming into the country. but that's okay. our immigration law accounts for this. and it says actually to detain individuals who are coming into this country and instead of doing this massive catch and then release individuals into the interior of the united states which the biden administration has done. and so whether it's afghan nationals that they papa roll in or these type of individuals this idea we will check them after the fact they get here is the exact wrong approach. >> laura: this entire thing is an utter -- scandal doesn't even describe it, okay? this is the undermining of our sovereignty and now they are endangering -- forget all the economic woes this brings and the cultural problems. the national security damage that this is potentially doing to the country, and, you know, you can't vet. forgetting vetting. we are done. full up. we have 12 million people here illegally. we have no idea who most of these people are there is no vetting. like vetting the afghan refugees. we are not vetting any refugees, bringing them all in and hoping for the best. they cannot continue to happen in this country. >> no, it can't. again, these are the individuals that we actually apprehended. these are folks that border patrol saw. >> how many are there, chad? how many do you think. how many potential terrorists do you think if had you to guest. >> how many tajikistan folks are in that 2 million got away. we have no idea the department has no idea because of their strategic along that border is a complete and utter failure. >> laura: i don't even like to describe it as failure guy the way. i realize i called you under former, undersecretary, sorry, chad. there are great undersecretaries out there but you were the acting secretary. again, guy back to this idea of vetting. they are not vetting anybody. so now biden says well, these people from these six countries can't come in. russia, kyrgyzstan, tajikistan, so they knew this was coming, right? they knew this news was coming. so that news came out over the weekend. that's interesting timing, don't you think? now we have a list of six whopping countries that you can't come in from? >> yeah. i mean they know the countries of concern. they know countries that are not sharing information. so you have no idea, even if you encounter foreign nationals from those countries, you can't vet them because they are not sharing information. we have nothing to base an assessment on. and so they know that. they have known that for some time and the fact that they continue to exempt these individuals and allow folks to come into the country, you are not returning them. this is why you need a different border strategy. you need to prevent people from coming in. those that do come in, you need to both vet them but also detain them during their immigration court proceedings. and none of that is occurring today. >> laura: immediate turnback. go back to trump policy. can't do it. can't vet. our government couldn't get out of afghanistan. okay? we are not vetting anybody. i don't know how many chinese are here, either. chad, you know this is my issue. i get worked up on it. thank you so much for joining us. all right. could conservative victories in europe be a harbinger for what might happen in november? details, next. ♪ we love being outside, but the sun makes our deck and patio too hot to enjoy. thanks to our new sunsetter retractable awning, we can select full sun or instant shade. it's 20 degrees cooler and you get protection from harmful rays and sun glare. when you call, we'll rush you a special $200 discount certificate with your free awning idea kit! you'll get your sunsetter for as little as $799. but, this is a limited time offer! for over 20 years, sunsetter has been the bestselling retractable awning in america! call now for this free awning idea kit packed with great awning solutions. plus, get this $200 discount certificate to get your sunsetter for as little as $799. there are so many incredible styles to choose from. get a custom-built awning, without the custom-built price! turn your patio into an instant oasis. add led lighting for evening enjoyment. call now for your free awning idea kit, local dealer info and $200 discount certificate. “life is better under a sunsetter!” her uncle's unhappy. i'm sensing an underlying issue. it's t-mobile. it started when we tried to get him under a new plan. but they they unexpectedly unraveled their “price lock” guarantee. which has made him, a bit... unruly. you called yourself the “un-carrier”. you sing about “price lock” on those commercials. “the price lock, the price lock...” so, if you could change the price, change the name! it's not a lock, i know a lock. so how can we undo the damage? we could all unsubscribe and switch to xfinity. their connection is unreal. and we could all un-experience this whole session. okay, that's uncalled for. >> laura: this is what the nifty newcomers in paris did after eu v voters delivered a rebuke to pro-refugee globalists. [cheering] >> laura: the "wall street journal" called the parliament election results blow to french and german. stunning defeat of macron and macron left with no choice. >> i'm dissolving the national assembly this evening. >> laura: that sent parties scrambling. whatever happens, the anti-macron sentiment is real. are there similarities to our own upcoming election? more are rejected expensive climate regulation and obscenely high cost of living. douglas murray, "new york post" columnist and fox news contributor. douglas, the bbc, other, you no he, regime media types describe this as disturbing, extreme, or far right victories. what are they not getting here? >> well, several things. one is that media like the bbc have spent years calling all of these parties that have won in the most recent elections eu far right. in fact, they tend to call absolutely everybody slightly to the right of the most green leftist party far right. and now, i mean, the term is losing all meaning across the continent. the second thing is these media keep on saying things like the far right is on the march across europe. there's a boring predictability about that. what you have just shown your viewers, of course is the far left actually marching in europe, the far left this evening actually marching and demonstrating and rioting in the center of paris. i wouldn't expect to see that covered in any of the media in the coming days. >> laura: only ones marching and violent are the leftist who reject the elections. now, douglas, brexit back in 2015 i remember staying up all night watching those election results. a lot of people think that trump victory in 2016. will this pro-populist, pro-nationalist trend in the eu mean the same, perhaps, in 2024? >> it's very interesting question. i think so. and this is why. the main driver of the popular resentment across europe at the moment, that was shown in these election rules, is incredible concern by the population not far rightest, not hard rightest or anything else. but the majority populations. to what they see correctly as just unstopping illegal and legal immigration into the continent. the electorate have for years been trying to sound the alarm at the ballot box, the mainstream parties. and the mainstream parties have just not listened. you know, we have security concerns in a city like paris, which is about to host the olympics. islamist terrorist cell was just found the other day trying to create a spectacular terrorist event. are the french voters hard right or far right? no, they just don't like being blown up. you know, it's a kind of basic sentiment. and because macron and others have failed to answer this -- to answer your question about america. i think we will see something very similar. we know what the situation is on the southern border of this country. we know what the biden administration has failed to do. if the incumbent government does not wrestle with mass illegal population shifts, then people will obviously vote for somebody else. n country that somebody else is very clear. in europe, it's becoming clearer by the day. >> douglas, brilliant analysis of the situation. thank you so much. all right. biden caught in a trans, and what about pickleball? can that save his campaign? yeah, jimmy failla is on it and that's nex i was scared when i was told age related macular degeneration could jeopardize my vision. it was hard, but taking preservision was easy. preservision has the exact clinically proven areds 2 formula recommended by the nei. i'm taking control like millions of others. time for wtf. joining me now, jimmy fail a >> laura: time for wtf, what the failla, joining us is jimmy failla. you can't make it up. a few hours after hunter's conviction for breaking gun laws, president biden spoke about how important our nation's gun laws are. watch. >> president biden: i want to thank you, instead of trying to stop our ban -- they are working like hell to stop it. if they want to think to take on government if we get out of line, they are talking again about, they need f-15s, they don't need a rifle. >> laura: jimmy. >> jimmy: i think what he was trying to say is gavin newsom 2024. this guy is finished. okay. laura, we're not supposed to have the united states president speaking with subtitles below the screen, that is where we are now. a guy in office makes the sign language interpreter shrug. he makes up words, not good. >> laura: the biden team, they are getting pretty desperate, in effort to sway older voters, they are planning a pickleball tournament in virginia, pancake breakfast, bingo in arizona and a phone bank with second gentgaming in new hampshire. that is exciting after seeing him dance. >> jimmy: who does joe consider older? i've seen younger faces on money. idea he thinks anyone is older than him scares me. they are in a desperate spot, they tried buying younger voters, nobody wants anything to do with this. >> laura: are you a pickleball player? do you pickleball with the best of them? >> jimmy: if i can't bet on it, i don't play it or watch it. until they start putting lines on pickel elball, this is a sport for out of shape people. >> laura: summon forgot to push biden's on button, pull the shirt up, there is an on button. watch. ♪ ♪ [♪] >> jimmy: yeah. you know what he looked like, he looks like an amish guy that walked into best buy. so overwhelmed, does not know what is happening around him. two doors down from a guy in a dress, i don't know what we're looking at. if biden does not run for president, he can be in "frozen" straight glitz. >> laura: the first gentleman, he's doing -- there has to be moratorium on anyone who can't dance, dancing and not that kamala was a good darner, she tried a little bit. it is not good to be around people who are good dancers and you are rocking in an awkward. >> jimmy: doug should have froze. this whole administration america's got issues, whole video, just look at it. >> laura: i knew we would get in trouble with this. jimmy will be in new jersey next weekend, follow me on social media. i have rose growing trouble. jesse next. >> todd: a packed city bus hijacked by a convicted felon with a gun leading to one of the wildest police chases caught on camera. we'll show you the pursuit and takedown that brough

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