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After characterizing russias moves assen invasion, the white house is expected to come down with the mother of sanctions. youll hear that in president bidens remarks soon. hell also likely use a speech to explain to americans why a russian invasion of ukraine matters to them. joining me for his perspective is steven hadley, served as the national security adviser in the george w. bush white house. he was there in the russia-georgia crisis, which this looks familiar now to. good to see you, sir. ...

Whats the latest from there? >> reporter: alex, strong condemnation from this white house against putins latest move. senior defense officials have told nbc they have no reason to doubt these reports that putin has activated his nuclear forces. they say this is just the latest example of putin creating a false pretext to escalate the situation they have been warning has been happening throughout ukraine. listen to what the press secretary had to say earlier. >> this is exactly the kind of manufa...

Provocation and part of the pretext to enter ukraine. as an emergency meeting of the security council the u.s. and it allies sought to isolate russia calling the countrys actions a blunt defiance of international law. >> russias clear attack on ukraines sovereignty and territorial integrity sun provoked. in essence the putin wants the world to travel back in time, to a time before the united nations, to a time when empires ruled the world, but the rest of the world has moved forward. it is not 1...

Into putin apologists here in the united states. ive repeatedly heard the claim that the west provoked this war by going back on promises made to russians back in the 90s about nato expansion. and weve also heard putin claim that nazis, neo-nazis are running ukraine. drug-addicted neo-nazis. does any of that seem like actual things vladimir putin believes, or are these just pretext for war? >> well, i dont know what he believes. hes made three immediate cases for the pretext for war. one is that...

Is that unlike the security council, which is more powerful because russia is a permanent member and political interests are so present there, and the general assembly of god and of globalfocus group general assembly of god and of global focus group values and for all setbacks to democracy and human rights around the world in recent years, there remain a solid majority of countries who are appalled that a country could without pretext invade its neighbour. it breaches the most fundamental rule o...

Be a pretext or a false flag operation involving -- >> sean: one more question. yesterday, the secretary of state seemed enthusiastic about the mags being transferred from poland. poland is also a sovereign nation on top of it being a member of nato. why would the u.s. effort to support it and then pull back from it? >> it is a tricky situation. originally what they said was that if the polls want to directly transfer those to ukraine, that is a sovereign nations decision. but then the polls sur...

Baltic states they all have russian-speaking minorities. the same pretext is that -- and, of course, the same history is there in terms of the bloody 20th century, what happened in the baltic states, as you have in ukraine. so their paradigm is entirely rational. the deal with nato is we dont have bases, permanent bases in the recent members, these former soviet zone countries that joined nato. i think that changes now. i think, in fact, eventually putin is probably guaranteed ukraines membershi...

I should say, unfair to ask you who those tanks are. because even in 2014, there was always the speculation that there were unnamed -- soldiers, little green men, believed to be russians holders but did not identify themselves. so, figuring out who is coming into ukraine would be a hard task at the best of times. into ukr>> i think the differen, though, ali, is that in 2014, in donbass, russia tried to maintain the pretext that it was the separatists that were at the helm of that military operat...

The russian speaking part of this country. there are two languages in ukraine, ukrainian and now here in the east russian. people here speak both languages, people here converse and both languages. there is not repression against the russian-speaking people in this city. ive been speaking with many of them. all day people converse, and operate in russian, and there are no reprisals against them. last night i was at a demonstration -- two nights ago, i was at a demonstration in the city. and peop...

Theyre neither peacekeepers, nor are they independent. is this just a pretext for an invasion? >> of course. its complex, its dangerous, its accelerating. a few days ago, putin had them deliver a legislative approval essentially declaring independence of the two provinces. then we saw this odd, comical cabinet meeting followed by the appeal of the separatist leaders, followed by the immediate signing of the document, followed by the immediate dispatching of the peacekeepers. the key will be, in ...