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Back when they get negative stories about the president or carter page. tell us what the latest is. >> they talk about the media leak strategy. and there is news reports out this weekend saying that the leak of the dossier which they are talking about over unclassified systems, the disasterrier was classified according to the fbi and doj. they say the leak of the dossier at the beginning of the trump administration to cnn and buzzfeed, they said maybe we can use this as a pretext to interview pe...

And they pat each other on the back when they get negative stories about the president or carter page. tell us what the latest is. >> they talk about the media leak strategy. and there is news reports out this weekend saying that the leak of the dossier which they are talking about over unclassified systems, the disasterrier was classified according to the fbi and doj. they say the leak of the dossier at the beginning of the trump administration to cnn and buzzfeed, they said maybe we can use th...

And they pat each other on the back when they get negative stories about the president or carter page. tell us what the latest is. >> they talk about the media leak strategy. and there is news reports out this weekend saying that the leak of the dossier which they are talking about over unclassified systems, the disasterrier was classified according to the fbi and doj. they say the leak of the dossier at the beginning of the trump administration to cnn and buzzfeed, they said maybe we can use th...

They there has got to be some sense of truth in all of this. all of this evidence and abuse of power he has got to understand at some point that all of these agencies now will b permanently, if not irreparably damaged in all of, this sara? >> one thing he needs to do and, you know, we have spoken to a number of lawmakers who have said the same thing. he needs to wrap up this special counsel investigation which was based off of false, unverified information. look, all of this was a pretext, sean....

Campaign throwing things in there how they will set up some pretexts for interviews. coordinating ongoing leaks. obviously aimed at out trump administration u so this is a serious thing is try toll to understand and nail how much did you r. they have? they were involved in critical periods like this. where dots infloins end and how much of a tangts on this? >> lindsey graham, of course, has called for a expected special counsel, jojoe digenova. this is screaming investigation. we have the genera...

>> you are correct there was a cancer in our government. its still there. it became malignant under obamas department of justice and james comeys fbi, john brennans cia. james clappers dni and its still going on hook at the text messages we received today. strzok and page are obsessed and transfixed with their quote personal role in leaking and shaping stories and then they are bragging that now we can use this as a pretext to interview people. its not only mendacious and devious but to the exte...

Trump haters wrote, quote: it will make your head spin to realize how many stories we played a personal role. in next text january 2017 even more damning. sitting with bill watching fake news cnn. i added that part. a ton more out. hey, let me know when you can talk. we are discussing whether now that this is out we use it as a pretext to go interview some people what you see is obvious effort from strzok and page not only to leak information, they used that leak information to justify further i...

Radicalization we are seeing? >> we are doing better. that certainly has to be a focus. one of the things we have been doing on this u.s. institute on preventing extremism is deal with the problem that extremism, since 9/11, has spread. there were 2,000 terrorist incidents worldwide in 2001. there were 10,000 in 2017. one of the reasons we have not been effective in preventing the spread of the extremist ideology that is used in some sense as a cover or pretext for extremist violence and terrori...

By the president as a pretext to fire him or attack him since he was looking for reasons to do so with the mueller investigation? this could be a little less political. >> absolutely. i think that if we have a scenario in which the justice department comes out and says were not going to conduct an investigation or they say we did look into it and we couldnt figure it out. that is a really elegant way for the white house to be able to say, look, the justice department is the reason we dont know t...

Destabilizing and authoritarian. >> absolutely. i think that is what this op-ed will accomplish whether intentionally or not. it is a pretext to a purge. a purge of internal staffers who maybe there are some people in there doing a good job that he might actually want to get rid of that are not the people who wrote the op-ed. and also an attack on the media. it validates his conspiracy theories about the deep state. and i think it was really irresponsible of the "new york times" to print it. it ...