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>> nothing particularly surprising. but, again it was classified, so no real report i can get to you. >> none of this has stopped the presidents lawyer, rudy giuliani, telling the cnns dana bash that essentially they plan to use the information on this confidential source as some sort of bargaining chip, pretext to the president sitting down with the special counsels office, robert mueller leading the russia investigation, leading some to question whether any of this entire ordeal was ever about...

Questions. joining me now on all of it, shannon wu and molly ball. molly, let me begin with you on how extraordinary it is what lauren just reported. the fact that you had emmet flood, a white house attorney, and the chief of staff, folks on the presidents team in this meeting about a confidential source that could be key in the probe against the president and that giuliani told dana, well, you know, the president wanted him in there. >> right. the objection to this meeting in the first place wa...

Information is really damaging, really dangerous, but theyre willing to subvert any authority in order to keep that a secret. so this is something i think they think they can keep this from getting out. i dont think they will actually do that. >> tucker: the pretext they used to hide this information from public view are dishonest. tonight, a reporter in w washington has a piece explaining that one of the many facts redacted by the f.b.i. in documents obtained through foia reveals andy mccabe sp...

Republicans, the department of justice holding not one but 2000 separate briefings about confidential informants in the russia investigation. in other words, revealing key information about the ongoing kernly active criminal investigation into the presidents campaign and russian election interference. the same investigation you will recall that has already resulted in five guilty pleas and 17 indictments. republicans originally demanded a briefing on the pretext of concerns about a supposed spy ...

Or even weaponize this information to serve their narrative. >> absolutely. and this is the sort of thing that in the past, even as congress has become a lot more partisan in the last several years, the intelligence committee generally has remained pretty bipartisan. and on high-level, national security matters, you do see them having bipartisan briefings. so its fairly striking that this is not going to be that. particularly since the whole pretext for this briefing is ostensibly to determine w...

Narrative. >> absolutely. and this is the sort of thing that in the past, even as congress has become a lot more partisan in the last several years, the intelligence committee generally has remained pretty bipartisan. and on high-level, national security matters, you do see them having bipartisan briefings. so its fairly striking that this is not going to be that. particularly since the whole pretext for this briefing is ostensibly to determine whether there was political motivation for the spec...

The department is forced to refuse as rod rosenstein said that the department cannot be extorted, then the president has the pretext that he wants and needs to fire people. so we need to be aware of this. ultimately, there is only one remedy, and i know people are saying as the minority, what can you do? at the end of the day, there is only one remedy, and that is to make sure the party of power is not the minority is to throw the bums out who are not living up to their institutional responsibil...

Rosenstein said that the department cannot be extorted, then the president has the pretext that he wants and needs to fire people. so, we need to be aware of this. ultimately, theres only one remedy, and i know people are saying, you know, as the minority, what can you do? at the end of the day, there is only one remedy, and that is to make sure the party of power is not the minority is to throw the bums out who are not living up to their institutional responsibilities and protecting our system ...

Testify until you are permitted to leave by a district judge. there is no reason in the world that i can see why he will not use that against donald trump. 20 years ago, bill clinton fought a subpoena against him in a civil case. the paula jones went all the way to the supreme court. the supreme court said even a sitting president must give testimony in a civil trial and must go to civil trial if the judge requires. a criminal case is even stronger. i dont see how donald trump avoids a subpoena,...

Started this investigation, but now we hear that the informant was actually reaching out and talking to trump campaign people well before that, at least weeks before that, maybe longer before that and i think what you are seeing on capitol hill is some investigators, republican investigators are looking even further back than that. >> tucker: what would that mean? that he was doing it laterally because he was interested or that he was doing it at the direction of one of the obama agencies? >> th...