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Its hard for me to imagine the sunnies would ever agree to be 2 5% of an arab state. >> 20/20 hindsight then senator joe biden chairman of the senate foreign relations committee thought we should divide iraq into three parts, kurds, sunni and shites. >> i didnt say its a good idea but its the direction its going in. >> would that have been a good idea. >> depends on what kind of sunni state might have emerged. this kind of sunni state is unacceptable to us. thats why the withdraw of the american...

The mediterranean, they are being very shrewd and smart about this. kurds have got their eye on the future. >> the sunnies understand that thats why isis has allies from the tribal and militia forces in the sunni territories. but that alliance isnt necessarily going to last. >> fatal not to negotiate something, a status of forces agreement that would have let us stay a little bit longer? i realize george w. bush sent the first one in but president obama didnt seek to extend it or get some certai...

Gitmo. it makes sense to me. >> a number of people suggest maybe the real goal here was just shutting down gitmo. maybe the goal wasnt to get bergdahl back. that was a pretext to help get the guys out of there president obama, when he wanted to shut this down back in 2009, he appointed his own task force, even president obamas own people, they identified 48 guys that were too dangerous to let go under any circumstances. and these five were among those 48 at gitmo. we released some of the most da...

And that was the pretext for seizing the hostages, and they demanded we return the shah. the president absolutely not. the president said the united states wont do that. they are held with the hostages and kept upping the ante, we would never negotiate on that and make a deal. and we said we want everyone back. we all agree we want everyone back. every soldier, every diplomat. i worry what these people would have done if they were given the shah back, john kerry particularly. >> always a rich di...

>> a couple of the guys, the haqqani faction of the taliban is directly tied to al qaeda, am some of these guys are directly tied with al qaeda. the state department in the past year said the qataris are actively fund-raising for terrorism. the idea these guys dont have to travel, theyre going to be on telephones, going to be on skype. >> you know whos going to be tracks them? the cia. the thought that were not going to be understanding what the threat -- >> can i get a word in edgewise here? le...

Region -- and here is the proof. what would you say? >> lets take cairo. those protest were led and organized by the younger brother of the leader of al qaeda. people have to understand the pretext for a demonstration and what is at issue. the radicals in the middle east have a bent the united states and our existence is what frustrates them. >> are you arguing not a single protest during that period was the result of this anti-islamic video? >> no, that is what i mean my pretext. what is the la...

The big question is why does iran really want this? iran is a country with massive reserves or natural gas and oil and no real sort of need for nuclear power per se. i think theres a suspicion that is really just a pretext for iran to argue it needs a big centrifuge program, which is the key sticking point in the nuclear talks. >> thats clearly what the united states thinks how do you stop it? >> i think stopping the contract from going forward is one thing, but i think what the u.s. will do is ...

Legislator in the palestinian government. >> netanyahu said im not going to negotiate with a government -- >> it is a surprise, frankly speaking. i expected him to fine any pretext, execute, to scuttle the talks which something hes been doing from the beginning. he has escalated settlement activities, the land theft, siege of jerusalem, the siege of gaza. hes escalated violence, done everything to destroy the talks and clutching the pretech that the palestinians are trying to reach unity, and th...

Pretext for a broader military intervention or the ukraines sit back and do nothing and watch this continue and my guess is that they are beginning to get concerned that they cant just sit back. >> what do you make about this talk of world war iii from the ukrainian leaders? >> weve seen a lot of ultimatums. ive lost count at this point how many times theyve given an ultimatums for the militants to clear out, always giving 48 hours and never following through with their threats because they saw ...

Pretext to invade or whether he is waiting for something else to happen, well just have to see. jon, back to you. jon: leland vittert, streaming live from ukraine. thank you. jenna: one historic event coming up at the vatican where two popes will be canonized as saints at the same time. well look back at their papacies and while the dual ceremony is not without controversy in the catholic church. jon: legalizing marijuana in colorado brought all sorts of unforeseen consequences but murder? why p...