those forces loyal to putin are on the other. that, i think, is where we talk about the prospect of civil war. it gets to that point where you ve got fighting in moscow. i think at that point we re at civilian war. it s a frightening prospect. you talked about support for prigozhin. i mean, what role do you think the oligarchs and elites may be playing behind the scenes? we re talking about the oligarch and the intelligence and security elite. they re watching what s happening with ukraine. they re clearly seeing the writing on the wall that essentially russia is not winning this war and could quite easily lose this war, and if anything, the prigozhin uprising is making a russian defeat more likely because it could open up opportunities for ukrainians to