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tariffs against china. initially they were going to target with a 10% tariff, but sources say the president wants to increase that tax to 25%. there is a growing belief that china is a bad actor on trade and needs to be handled as such. china cannot fight tit-for-tat trade war for very long, it will quickly run out of bullets. we also expect questions on a tweet a president sent out this morning that many people saw as him telling attorney general jeff sessions to shut down the robert mueller investigation. tweeting "attorney general jeff sessions should stop this which onto right now." democrats started shouting about obstruction of justice that the president was pretty overt and telling jeff sessions to shut the investigation down. investigation, so we will see where it goes. >> i laugh because there's never been a natural end to a special counsel investigation. >> harris: there are very few natural ends to anything so we will see what happens. we are joined by a member of the senate intelligence committee which is now holding today's hearing on american cybersecurity. great to see you to investigate what's happening. could this be an opportunity for you and the president to cleanse our election system of vulnerability? can democrats work with republicans on this? >> this is certainly a bipartisan issue. we had a clear take away from the hearing today, the hearing was on and put misinformation. the tampering falls into two different buckets. one is a direct attack on the Interviews with newsmakers and roundtable discussions cover the top news stories of the day. what's out there. sometimes it's just about information in general and what i hear you saying is this misinformation campaign, they are hitting us where they know we are vulnerable, believing in each other and believing the media. >> absolutely, the president's right. we know the internet is full of things that are not to be trusted and everything needs to be double checked. about the only solution that was a concrete solution, someone talked about setting up an agency that would review this stuff and determine what is and what isn't. i don't want to turn this over to the government to start making a decision as to what is to be believed and what isn't. but the take away of all of this is that people need to be very careful about what they believe when they are on the internet. >> harris: it's frightening to think that people were showing up in places, you don't know who might be at those organized events. americans are vulnerable, again i bring up that word. i want to talk about tariffs. are we any closer to confirming that you think this was russia? it doesn't have to be russia, it could be a whole host of people. >> it was said in the hearing today that it isn't just russia that's doing this. there are other actors, but loo look. russia is the major-league player in this, no one else can hold a candle to what the russians have done. >> harris: let's talk about the president putting some pressure, i think they call it maximum pressure now, on china. he may increase tariffs from ten to 25% on a lot of goods. what do you think will happen if that happens? >> it's hard to say. look, most of us up here, our free traders. if we had a level playing field everything would be fine. the difficulty is the chinese have perfected using our technology to do things they want to do. certainly there is no objection to china developing the technology they want but to take things that have been patented, we have a perfect case in idaho, micron technology, they are being sued in china for a violation of a patent they own in the united states but it was taken to china and the state owned enterprise is suing micron before a chinese court and they are having a very difficult time of it. this stuff is insidious, it is very difficult and you can't compete. >> harris: the president now sees economic hemorrhaging, those are my words, but it is what is happening in china right now. it is a strategy, we will see what it yields. great to see you, thank you. fox news alert, day two of the trial of president trump's former campaign chairman paul manafort. with an fbi agent involved on the rate of manafort's home, prosecutors accused paul manafort of violating tax and banking laws while the defense team tried to shift blame to his ex-deputy rick gates who is cooperating with the government. houston, house intel democrat adam schiff is suggesting that the trial could cause a problem for the president. >> this is donald trump's campaign manager and if he is convicted he will face substantial time if he is convicted on these charges. he may flip and that may be profoundly concerning to the president. >> harris: peter doocy at the courthouse for us in alexandria, virginia. >> harris, the peter strzok was just rebuffed by the judge in this case when they tried to introduce photos as exhibits that will become public of paul manafort's closet filled with fancy suits and high-end clothing as part of the mueller team's to paint manafort as someone who didn't pay taxes but paid a lot of money for designer foods. suits. the judge that enough is enough, we don't convict people because they have a lot of money and throw it around. the president's name still has not been mentioned in either day of this trial but that does not mean he is not paying attention and he did tweet this a little while ago. "who was treated worse, al capone or paul manafort?" the peter strzok dropped a bombshell that they may not call on their star witness to testify. his former deputy in business rick gates, the one prosecutors think has the goods on the way manafort did business, he is very important to the special counsel case for that reason. the prosecutor now says they may or may not call on gates because they say they evaluate every witness individually. but obviously if rick gates was not to testify it would change the landscape of the mueller team's approach and the defense approach. >> harris: great set up for my first guest, thank you. stephen mulroy, or former federal prosecutor and university of memphis law professor, there's a lot to chew on there. can we start on the lecture the peter strzok got today? there are certain things they won't be able to do with this judge, what is that about? >> i suppose the prosecution would say they are trying to substantiate the fact that manafort got millions from ukrainian lobbying that was not reported in trying to substantiate that with all the expensive things he spent the money on. there may be a little bit of see if we can get the jury to dislike manafort because of the lavish lifestyle he lived and the judge i think said look, there is an end to this. you can put a little bit of evidence on but you can't go to the well too many times on the paul manafort lived a lavish lifestyle argument because that's not really against the law. >> harris: he went on to say, this is america, you can't look at somebody based on how their friends and people who also have money spend money and turn them into criminals because they are friends with paul manafort. i was reading with the judge was saying, i just wondered what this does to the prosecution and to mueller's investigation. the other thing that rick gates is not going to testify, what does that mean? >> that might be in no way bad news for the defense, the defense's theory all along has been to simply attack the credibility of rick gates, make it a he said/he said case, saying that rick gates was making stuff up to cut a plea deal. if the prosecution is confident enough in their documentary case, that they think they got the proof that he earned millions of dollars in ukrainian lobbying or misrepresented the financial -- his financial situation to secure bank loans, if they can prove that with documents without using rick gates, that defense argument is no longer available. a spew on the bottom line in all of this, the american people know this judge has said you can't bring up anything from the russia investigation. there is no evidence of collusion, we don't know all of what mueller has, but how does that case get impacted by what we are seeing right now? >> this case does not involve russian interference in the 2016 election, it's a separate matte matter. win, lose, or draw, it doesn't necessarily impact of that. the way it could impact it is if manafort is convicted and staring down the barrel of serious jail time, he may be motivated to flip on the president if he knows something because he was the campaign manager. on the other hand perhaps he's holding out for a pardon from the president and maybe that explains why he hasn't been cooperating so far. >> harris: are you impressed by how far we've gotten dating back to the early 2000s, 2006. it has nothing to do with the president or what is gone on. what kind of jail time or prison time could he see? >> there are many different counts on many different charges of bank fraud and tax fraud. plus the separate case, witness tampering, money laundering. even if only a fraction of those counts end up in convictions we could be looking at serious jail time, potentially manafort looking at the rest of his life in prison. it's serious business, a lot of stuff over a lot of different years. >> harris: i'm curious about that, what could that look like? none of this has to do with that other case which is the why the judge doesn't want it being brought up. good to see you. i want to get to the breaking news, here is what we are watching and we won't know until the split second when it happen happens. awaiting the start of the daily white house press briefing. when it happens, a barrage of questions on a host of things. you will see it here on "outnumbered overtime." president trump's fiery campaign style on full display. the president brought back some of his favorite messages for 2016, including brought it size against the democrats. about will this keep is party in power? 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do you think he brings something into the mix when he endorses you and he's on the ground with you that is growing? >> i've never seen anything like it. they had an overflow room last night in tampa of 8,000 people watching on the screen because they couldn't get into the main hall. i haven't seen any candidate in our history excite people as much as donald trump does. of course it's translated, we've seen it in the primaries in georgia where he endorses a candidate and catapults them to victory in these primaries. all of our congressional members will need that energy. they don't always feel the same way about congress as they do this president. they need the president saying i need you to vote for this congressperson, this senator so we can keep these majorities and keep the trump agenda going. >> harris: former president barack obama just endorsed 81 candidates from across the nation. a quote from him really quick, "i'm proud to endorse such a wide and impressive array of democratic candidates." i want to get your respond and note to call people not on the list. senator dianne feinstein and alexandria ocasio-cortez. >> there's a lot of people not on the list. i think this list is more interesting for the omissions than the people he put on it. almost every major senate candidate on the country is not on this list, he's missing a lot of key house races, even house races were hillary clinton won. i think we look at 2016 and we recognize, it was a repudiation barack obama. i don't think a lot of candidates want his endorsement and it's interesting to see how many of them are not on his list that are in contested races across this country. >> harris: we were previously talking about what president trump brings to the campaign trail, sometimes presidents get involved and sometimes they don't. a former president michael barack obama, what does he offe? when the base is splitting it. >> it's a divided party, they are going further and further left. i will be interested to see how many of these candidates to tout his endorsement. they don't have a leader of their party, they don't have a message, resist and obstruct is not a message, it's a message of not getting anything done. we see unemployment levels at record low, we see our military being funded, our veterans taking care of. i'm going to tell you, people want president trump's endorsement more than they want president obama's. >> harris: i was on the ground in kansas city, we were obviously talking about the military but that's a component that will get a lot more attention as we move toward november. your last thoughts? >> our president supports our military and not only does he say it, he has shown it through his actions. he cares about our veterans and we've seen such great legislation come out of this congress with this president, we need to support our military men and women and i know you care about that deeply. >> harris: that sent on the ground issue. breaking news right now, we are awaiting the white house press briefing. sources are saying president trump is considering bumping up tariffs on chinese goods. the fact that china is hurting economically. i will bring in republican senator john thune, and a judge temporarily blocked the release of a blueprint to make three plastic guns. a stay close. oh! oh! ♪ ozempic®! ♪ (vo) people with type 2 diabetes are excited about the potential of once-weekly ozempic®. in a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than seven and maintained it. oh! under seven? 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>> secretary sanders: it's not an order, it's a presidents opinion. it's ridiculous that all the corruption that's gone on with the launching of the witch hunt, the president has watched this process play out but he wants to see it come to an end as he has stated many times and we look forward to that happening. >> reporter: on a different topic, you mentioned the commitment to the president, there was a report that north korea is still assembling icbms. how did that meet north korea fulfilling its commitment? >> secretary sanders: i'm not going to comment on the first part of your question on any potential intelligence matter in terms of the remains. we had the best of the best working over the last several weeks on this process, we will keep you updated on it. we feel comfortable in the assessment they have made up until this point. >> reporter: on the next proposed tariffs against china, the figure initially for tariffs was 10%. it's our understanding that the president wants to take that up to 25%. what's the reason behind increasing it and in a tit-for-tat if tat if you want to call it, who has more bullets, china or the united states? >> secretary sanders: the president certainly believes that the united states does, we will have an update, there will be a call to walk through the details of that update in regards to the question you asked, look, the bottom line is the president will continue to hold china responsible for their unfair trade practices. this has gone on long enough and he's going to do something about it. >> reporter: the president has made some headway with the e.u. in terms of lowering trade barriers and taking steps toward leveling the playing field. does the president believe that it is possible without taking some real punitive measures? >> secretary sanders: we would like to see the playing field level, the president as both he and i think about 15 members of his administration have said repeatedly we would like to see the unfair trade practices it stopped. until that happens the president will hold their feet to the fir fire, he's not going to sit back and allow american industries and workers to be taken advantage of. >> reporter: churches around the country, synagogues leaders have been up in arms about last year's tax cut law. they said there's a provision that's going to force them to pay a new 21% of federal income tax on benefits they give to certain employees. can you assure churches that they are not going to have to pay a new tax? >> secretary sanders: i am not going to make a blanket generalization about every church in america but certainly the goal of the package was to provide the greatest amount of relief to the greatest number of americans and we feel that it's done that. we feel the other policies the president has put forward have certainly moved the ball forward, made our economy infinitely stronger than it has been in decades and i think you can see that by all the numbers that have come out over the last year and a half. >> reporter: what is the president doing to make sure they keep their tax exempt status? >> reporter: federal law says any threatening letter or communication aimed at impeding a criminal investigation constitutes obstruction of justice. rudy giuliani issued a statement saying he doesn't think this morning's tweet is obstruction because the president said a sessions sure to stop the probe instead of ordering him to halt it. is rudy giuliani the one giving the president legal advice on his tweets? and does that statement reflect the opinion of the president's legal team? >> secretary sanders: the president is not obstructing, he's fighting back. he is certainly expressing the frustration he had with the level of corruption we've seen, there is a reason the president is angry and frankly, most of america is angry as well and there is no reason he shouldn't republican senator said the mueller investigation needs to move forward and they ought to let them complete their work. do you agree with that sentiment that this investigation ought to be completed and not be cut off? >> secretary sanders: we think it should be completed, we would like it to be completed sooner rather than later. it's gone on for an extensive amount of time, they've come up with nothing in regards to the president. we would like to see it come to a close, we have said that a number of times. sure, we agree on that front. i'm sorry, we are tight on time, cecelia, go ahead. i hope we will try to get to as many people as possible, cecelia, go ahead. >> reporter: does the president still believe that millions of people are voting illegally in this country? >> secretary sanders: even if ten people are voting illegally it shouldn't happen, the president wants to see the integrity of our election systems upheld. he wants to make sure anybody voting is somebody that should be voting and i think that is something that should be celebrated, not discriminated. >> reporter: one was the last time the president went to a grocery store? >> secretary sanders: i am not sure and i am not sure why that matters. >> reporter: i've never had to show an idea the grocery store. >> secretary sanders: if you go to a grocery store and buy beer and wine you have to show your i.d. he is not saying every time he went in, he is saying when you go to the grocery store. i'm pretty sure everybody in here who has been to a grocery store that has purchased beer or wine has had to show their i.d. if they didn't that's probably a problem with the grocery store. >> reporter: following up on john decker's question, you want the investigation to end, i presume also without any obstruction or interference. many have described the president's tweet this morning is blowing off steam, is that a fair characterization? just an opinion it has nothing to do with his actual governmental control or supervision of this investigation? >> secretary sanders: as i said earlier, the president stating his opinion, it is not an order. i think he has been crystal clear about how he feels about this investigation from the beginning. >> reporter: you set a moment ago that the investigation itself is corrupt, the mueller investigation. strzok certainly is not anymore anymore -- >> secretary sanders: of the entire investigation is based off of a dirty, discredited dossier paid for by an opposing campaign and had a lot of corruption within the entity which was overseen, we laid this out a number of times. i don't think we have to go into it every single time we are in here. >> reporter: if it's corrupt, why doesn't the present just use the powers he has to end it, why doesn't he follow through? >> secretary sanders: the president has allowed this process to play out but he think it's time for it to come to an end. >> reporter: i'm wondering if you can clarify this tweet from this morning, is it the president's desire for sessions to unrecuse himself and is it his desire for the special counsel to be fired? >> secretary sanders: it is the president's opinion, i don't have anything further. >> reporter: last night at the tampa rally, the president again pushed for the creation of a space for us, a new military branch. the defense department today missed a deadline to submit a report to congress about how this space for us is to be structured and we are told the white house is now twice rejected drafts because the defense department doesn't want a space for us and would rather create a space command under the existing military structure. how is the president going to force the creation of a space force? >> secretary sanders: we are continuing to work with the department of defense to determine the best way forward, something the president feels strongly about and we are going to work with our team and figure out the best solution. >> reporter: i have a question about the president meeting with inner-city pastors today. secretary carson has pushed policies that would raise the rent on many poor people and push policies that would slow anti-immigration initiatives. what will the president say to these inner-city pastors whose areas might be part by some of these policies? >> secretary sanders: that's the reason to sit down with these individuals and hear their concerns. the primary point of discussion today is to discuss prison reform but i wouldn't be surprised if they raise those issues. the president has invited them here to have those ongoing conversations and determine how to help them in a number of situations. >> reporter: are those policies raising rents on poor people and slowing antisegregation initiatives, are they helping inner-city's in his opinion? >> secretary sanders: i would be happy to look at those specific policies after the briefing. >> reporter: members of this administration, as does the president feel that this country admits to many refugees? what was the rationality? >> secretary sanders: no policy decisions have been made, we will keep you posted as they are. >> reporter: does the president think there are too many refugees coming into this country? >> secretary sanders: the president wants to make sure we know whoever comes into this country, we know who they are and why they are coming and then they pose no danger or threat to americans. we want to make sure we have the processes in place and the ability to vet any individual that will come into this country. that they would work in coordination and determine that they have the ability to vet a certain number, the president would have concerns with that. again, the number one priority is national security and making sure we have the ability to process any individual that comes into this country. >> reporter: he has not yet made the decision if he will sit down with bob mueller, isn't that part of dragging this out a bit? and when he tells you something personally, do you take it as a directive or his opinion? >> secretary sanders: on the first but i would refer you to the president's outside counsel on specific negotiations. the second part? >> reporter: you said his tweet was his opinion. when he tells you something, how do you know that it's a directive or simply his opinion? >> secretary sanders: the president makes it pretty clear when i i have having those conversations with him. >> reporter: 's tweet this morning said he wanted to -- it was time for the investigation to be stopped. does the president know that jeff sessions can't stop the investigation? >> secretary sanders: the president is well aware of how the process works. >> reporter: has president spoke into the nra? >> secretary sanders: the president is glad this effort has been delayed to get more time to review the issue and this administration supports a decades-old legislation already on the books that prohibits the ownership of a wholly plastic gun. >> reporter: was he upset about it? >> secretary sanders: i think you can see in the actions of the president has made today that he is not happy with turkey's decision. >> reporter: the president is restructuring the way capital gains are taxed, is the president talking about potentially endorsing a government shutdown before november's election, after his november's election, or both? >> secretary sanders: on the first part, this is something that has a lot of support from various people. no administration policy has been determined. the president has asked the treasury department to take a look into it. on the second question, the president isn't focused on the timing of before or after the election, he is focused on the results. he's been talking about this for a year and a half, our immigration system is broken and he is begging for congress, particularly democrats in congress, to step up, do their jobs, stop kicking the ball down the field and work with him to fix our system, it's that simple. >> reporter: the president had a personal opinion as to whether the system works? >> secretary sanders: he has asked the treasury department to look into it. >> reporter: does the president encourage and support of people who showed up last night in these fringe groups, and secondly it does the is the white house willing to say in view of what happened with one of our tv colleagues last night, that it is wrong for his most vocal supporters to be menacing tour journalist doing their jobs? >> secretary sanders: on the first part the president condemns and announces any group that would incite violence against another individual. and certainly doesn't support groups that would promote that type of behavior, we have been clear about that a number of times since the beginning of the administration. on the second part of your question, as i just said, the president does not support violence against anyone and or anything and we been very clear every single time we've been asked about that. when it comes to the media, the president does think the media holds a responsibility. we fully support our free press but there also comes a high level of responsibility with that. the media routinely reports on classified information and government secrets i put lives in danger and risk valuable national security tools, both in our administration an end past administrations. one of the worst cases was reporting on the u.s. ability to listen to osama bin laden's satellite phone in the late '90s. the country lost valuable intelligence. it is now standard to abandon common sense and ethical practices. this is a two-way street. we support a free press and condemn violence against anybody but we ask that people act responsibly and report accurately and fairly. >> reporter: they were trying to prevent a broadcaster from getting his broadcast out and yelling that his network socks, is that right or wrong? no one was being violent in terms of hitting anybody and no broadcaster was broadcasting state secrets, they were trying to do stand up set a public rally and you had people trying to yell over them and prevent them from doing their jobs and yelling that their network sucks on live tv. do you support that are not? >> secretary sanders: we support freedom of the press but we also support freedom of speech and we think those things go hand-in-hand. >> reporter: president trump tweeted about paul manafort, comparing his treatment to that of al capone. first of all, why does dashed of the president feel like paul manafort is being treated unfairly? he talks about the issue of solitary confinement, does this administration have a larger concern about solitary confinement being used for people who haven't been convicted outside of paul manafort? >> secretary sanders: i am not aware of a specific policy position, certainly the president has been clear that he think paul manafort has been treated unfairly. >> reporter: can you confirm if the president has accepted to be the special guest next year? >> secretary sanders: i know the invitation has been extended, i don't believe a final decision has been made. i know both secretary mattis and secretary pompeo will be traveling to india and will be given the dialogue and process for a potential presidential visit. >> pakistan is concerned, there is a historical election. he had very little to say good things about india, u.s., and asia, but he is the prime minister of pakistan today. how are you going to deal with him? >> secretary sanders: the united states and india have deep and embodied strategic partnership and we will continue to build on that partnership and advance cooperation and i think you will see that at the meeting that will take place with secretary pompeo next month. >> reporter: does the president believe paul manafort is innocent of the charges he faces? >> secretary sanders: i don't believe that is the president's role, he believes that he is being treated unfairly. >> reporter: has the president said directly to jeff sessions at any point? >> secretary sanders: i am not aware of the president stating his opinion. we have a time for one last question. >> reporter: the president's opinion of sessions should end the mueller pro but also his opinion that the mueller probe should play itself out >> secretary sanders: the president believes he has watched this process play out. he would like to watch it come to a conclusion, since it has been going on for the better part of a year and a half. the president has an event starting in a couple of minutes. >> reporter: you also said the president believes he can fire mueller. doesn't it look weak on twitter for him to say sessions should end this probe when it is rosenstein that can under the probe and he can to the probe. >> secretary sanders: it is not weak for the president of the united states to express his opinion. >> harris: sarah sanders taking a lot of questions, use our reporters there. i want to bring in the power panel. as a former republican congresswoman, a political science professor. i will begin with just your reaction to what we just saw. >> the press as usual focuses on issues that are most exciting to them instead of on the most important issues for the american people which are in fact how is the president going to continue managing this economic boom, what implications might his tariff challenges have for us and how has he developed the crucial leverage we need in terms of a stronger economy and a stronger military to have the strongest negotiating position as we move forward? >> harris: they may put you in the press briefing room. i don't want people to miss this, the president is at the white house meeting with black pastors and he is talking about prison reform and the divide in this country. what just happened with facebook? whichever country you point to end it looks like it was russia from everything we are hearing from intel, they are dividing us or attempting to, down racial and cultural lines. the president potentially going to touch on that issue. >> that's very important, they did this in 2016 and they are going to continue to do it. the president is going to address these critical issues. the problem with the russian meddling as it continues to create more artificial divide. we have to see what comes out of this meeting. >> harris: the mueller investigation, the president's tweets seem to be something reporters really wanted to know about. what is your take away? >> many authorities join the president in having objections to what robert mueller is doing. he has what amounts to an endless agreement. this investigation has yielded nothing of substance to this point and the president is asking a legitimate question every reasonable person should ask, where does this end? i would disagree with my good friend and hayworth, we have to let the investigation run its course. as we are on the heels of this facebook -- what they revealed yesterday, the fact is we cannot stop looking at what russia has done. we have to stop thinking about this as an attack on the president and more as an attack on the united states, which he should be the first want to say enough is enough. >> harris: policies would indicate that that's exactly where we are and with all the breaking news with this press briefing, we are going to slide right into the next show. great to have you both. it has been very interesting to

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Wolf Blitzer looks at politics, breaking news and international stories. investigation. >> let me read between -- >> sure. >> i want to read the tweet. the words the president used in the statement on twitter that he released earlier this morning. this is a terrible situation. and attorney general jeff sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt right now before it continues to stain our country any further. bob mueller is totally conflicted and his 17 angry democrats that are doing his dirty work are a disgrace to usa. i just want to be specific what the president has said because, dana, this is the most bombastic statement he's made yet on this entire russia probe. and it comes as mueller is now engaged in the first trial that's actually started yesterday. >> no question. and, look, when -- and this goes to the heart of part of the mueller investigation. when a boss, or when the president, says -- makes a suggestion to a subordinate, is it really a suggestion? like david chalian was saying earlier, when your boss or my boss suggests something to us, is it really just a suggestion, or is it, please do this. and it's not different when you're looking at this issue and when you're talking about these players. that's why giuliani came out in a very carefully worded statement that he gave to me to make clear that this is not what the president's intention is. the question is not answered, which we are all asking, is why the president is doing this in the first place. this tweet, a series of other tweets this morning sure looks like somebody who was very preoccupied with this and very concerned about something maybe we don't know about. yet. >> let's go to jeff zeleny at the white house. standing by for sarah sanders. her press briefing was to begin at 1:00. now delayed until at least 1:15. what is motivating, driving the president right now to issue these kinds of very, very blunt, Wolf Blitzer looks at politics, breaking news and international stories. as long as he's been angry at him. but he's never fired him. it's the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein who is in charge of this investigation. so the president didn't necessarily say that he was going to ask rod rosenstein to have mueller end the investigation. so it does seem as though he was blowing off some steam trying to discredit this investigation. but, wolf, it will be interesting to see if the press secretary sarah sanders reflects the same explanation or definition or defense that rudy giuliani was giving to dana earlier. clearly this is as far as the president has gone. clearly this is a different moment in this investigation. and the president, if you look at the tweets from the weekend on when he was directly going after bob mueller, directly going after this investigation, it does seem he's more agitated by it. perhaps he does know more than we know in this investigation. we'll see what the white house has to say in just a few minutes, wolf. >> we certainly will. jeff and dana, stand by. gloria borger and our panel are here as well. the allegation immediately after the president tweeted these words about jeff sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt was that potentially he's obstructing justice. >> you know, that has been a question that we've all looked into. whether the president's tweets are being looked into by the special counsel as potentially obstructing justice. but i want to remind everyone because we've all reported -- cnn has reported that trump personally pressured sessions on multiple occasions to recuse himself from this investigation. he has been angry about sessions recusing himself for months. but this takes this whole thing to a different level. and once again, we find ourselves parsing the president's words. rudy giuliani's statement to dana is he said should, not must. last week, we were talking about would versus would not. they are trying -- i mean, they are the shovel brigade here, trying to clean up this mess that the president is making. tweeting about bob mueller and his attorneys, i guarantee you, jay sekulow being one of them, are probably pulling their hair out about this because it's the last thing they want to hear from the president, particularly when they're engaged or sort of engaged with the special counsel about trying to figure out whether the president testifies or not. >> this is a moment right now, a very critical moment, because on top of all of this, the president is now weighing in. there's a federal trial under way in alexandria, virginia, just outside washington, d.c. mueller and his team are going after paul manafort, the man who was the president's campaign chairman. all of a sudden, the president is weighing in on paul manafort as this trial is just beginning. it's day two. looking back on history, he tweets, who was heated worse. alfons capone, legendary mob boss, or paul manafort, political operative and reagan/dole darling now serving solitary confinement although convicted of nothing. where is the russian collusion? i don't remember a time when a sitting president of the united states has gotten involved in discussing an ongoing federal trial. >> except maybe nixon, right? if you think about it. on principle, and precedent and the norms of the office, the president should not be commenting publicly on any of this because it might come across as undue influence from the president, whether you're talking about the manafort trial, an ongoing trial, or the mueller investigation where the president and his allies still are potential targets of that trial. they have an interest, skin in the game. again, principle and the norms of the office, if they mattered in this. we've seen those shredded and passed over many times before. on the language, it's interesting that giuliani is trying to establish some sort of code for trump's language when he issues these public orders because there's really been no consistency there. the president has launched unitary executive that says he can hire and fire anyone he wants but that doesn't mean he can do anything in his constitutional role. and what this president continues to struggle with, or perhaps just disregard is his -- the difference between his personal opinions and his weighing in as a private citizen and things he might not like versus he actually is in a constitutional role. >> because rudy giuliani in the statement that he released and dana bash reported said the president was expressing his opinion on his favorite me medium -- twitter -- for asserting his first amendment right of free speech. everything the president says as a sitting president, whether it's on twitter or official white house statement or news conference, that is historic. that's a presidential statement. >> that's right. he is the president, and words matter. this isn't something new to him. if you think about his days as ceo. the head of a company, when he said things, people acted. you can't just say now he's justice blowing off steam 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get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! very dramatic day in washington. we're standing by for the press briefing. sarah sanders expected momentarily to walk in and start answering reporters' questions. we'll, of course, have coverage of that. at the same time, there's other related news that we're following. a political consultant and an fbi agent have now taken the stand on day two of paul manafort's trial. in opening statements the prosecution portrayed manafort as living an extravagant lifestyle fueled by secret income from lobbying in ukraine. but the defense says it was manafort's former deputy rick gates who lied and stole money. let's go to our crime and justice reporter shimon prokupecz. he's joining us in washington. rick gates, he had been expected to testify for the prosecution. now there seems to be some questions about that. what can you tell us? >> certainly, wolf, there has been certainly by the defense team. and rick gates is on the witness list for the prosecution. but nothing holds them to that. doesn't mean prosecutors have to call them. what happened just about an hour ago in court, during testimony by this fbi agent who was talking about documents and other information that he recovered from manafort's home during a search warrant execution, the prosecutor was asking him questions about some of those documents and rick gates came up and a judge trying to move things along says, well, why are you essentially asking this agent about this. we're going to have rick gates here. and at that point the prosecutor said, well, we may or may not call rick gates. obviously the idea that the prosecution would not call rick gates is somewhat newsworthy. the defense has made a big deal out of it in their opening statement saying that pinning everything on rick gates. so it would leave an interesting strategy here for the defense. a position here for the defense as to whether or not they're going to go ahead and call rick gates, if the prosecution does not. >> maybe the prosecution thinks they don't need to call rick gates. he's already admitted lying to federal authorities. he's plead guilty. maybe they think they have enough evidence, documents, other evidence, they don't need to call him. >> that's exactly right. based on some of the reporting we've done, we were kind of surprised that rick gates would be on the witness list. we've been all along told that when rick gates was working on his cooperation agreement with the special counsel, they said to him they didn't really need him on the manafort stuff. when you look through now the second day of this trial, all the documents that have been recovered and other information, it would seem that rick gates would just be kind of a bonus to them and perhaps given the strategy here by the defense, prosecutors are now saying, well, why do we need to call them? it could only dirty our case up and, therefore, no need for us to call them. just make our case and prove our case through other witnesses and through a lot of the documents they have now recovered and are using in this trial. that's a good point, wolf. >> the defense would have to decide if they call them as a witness? a hostile witness? those are to be determined. shimon, thank you. gloria, the president tweeted this morning on this paul manafort case, which is pretty unusual at the start of a federal case. president tweet again. this is a different tweet from earlier. paul manafort worked for ronald reagan, bob dole and many other prominent respect ed people. these have nothing to do with collusion. a hoax. it's pretty unusual. trial starts and he's weighing in on paul manafort. >> he is. and what's odd about this, to be honest is that donald trump and paul manafort were never close. paul manafort was brought in to the campaign by a friend of donald trump's who recommended, hey, this guy knows how to count delegates. that's when we saw there was going to be a delegate fight at the convention which there turned out not to be because donald trump went over the finish line after indiana. so they actually didn't need him. but then they liked him and they promoted him to run the campaign effecti effectively. that's when they ousted corey lewandowski. so he is somebody who is not personally close to trump. but i feel that trump feels personally threatened by manafort because if there is a conviction here, what this does is it gives the mueller investigation credibility. and so he's been calling it a witch hunt and a hoax. you have all the indictments of the russians which shows that it's not a witch hunt and a hoax but if manafort were to get convicted, that does give mueller some wind at his back. it's very, very important to him. and i think trump understands that. >> it's important to remember, jim, and you've done a lot of reporting on this that manafort was working for pro-russian, pro-putin, pro-kremlin rich guys in ukraine, including viktor yanukovych who was a pro-putin leader of ukraine. and that sort of fits in to this investigation. >> his client -- manafort's client who paid him tens of millions of dollars was not a good guy. he was putin's guy in the ukraine. he was corrupt. accused of overseeing the shooting of civilian protesters during the maidon protests. he jailed his political opponent there, tibishenko. and manafort tried to build support in the west for the jailing of his political opponent. this is the thing. if you are thinking about the kind of work he was doing there. yes, it was prior to his time with trump. but it was significant work for someone with russian ties who was not a boy scout, right? and to be fair, he was not the only one working for him. tony podesta also did some work for -- >> the brother of john podesta who was the hillary clinton campaign chairman. >> exactly. but the level and duration and amount of work manafort did for him was important and relevant and long running. the other point i would make is this. it's a bit rich for trump and his allies to claim that paul manafort was in effect some sort of short-term coffee boy. they were a key three months to get the delegates at the convention, through the convention. and he was the head of the campaign. not a low-level position but time and position doesn't mean much here because they will -- with michael cohen, for instance, who worked for the president for more than a decade, in a very intimate role, they're now claiming they always knew he was a liar. not a lot of -- there are some thin arguments being made about their relative connection and importance to this president. >> and also in the trump tower meeting with don junior. >> yes. >> and that may be something that troubles the president. >> everybody hold their breath. a lot more to discuss. we're waiting for the briefing to begin any moment now. there you see live pictures. the reporters, they're all in their seats already. we're waiting for sarah sanders to show up. also, the president doing an interview in which he says a government shutdown over his border wall with mexico is a great campaign issue. he also says there's a lot of evil people here in washington. get ready. we'll discuss. ♪ it's so hard to believe ♪ but it's all coming back me. ♪ baby, baby, baby. all you can eat is back, baby. applebee's. as sarah sanders walks over to the microphone. a ton of questions reporters have for her today. we'll see how far she's willing to go, how many questions she's willing to answer. stand by for live coverage. all this happening as the president, gloria, has just given an interview to rush limbaugh, a radio interview, in which he doubled down on his decision that, unless there's a border wall with mexico and other immigration issues, he's willing to shut down the federal government. he says, a lot of good people ask me, could we do it after the election? they've been good to me? i think it's a great campaign issue. i think it would be great before. but i don't want to disappoint a lot of great people. so he's insisting, he's ready to shut down the government at the end of september when the fiscal year ends. >> sounds like he's listening to them. >> mitch mcconnell, paul ryan -- >> people that want to keep their majorities in the congress. what i'm sure mitch mcconnell and paul ryan are saying to him is, are you kidding me? we have people in the house, for example, in suburban republican districts that are in danger of losing their seat and we want to try and keep those seats. and not only are women going to come out and vote but this woubld a real problem. government shutdowns are generally not popular when people understand what it means to them. and so they are saying, no, don't pull that card yet because it will complicate things. plus, don't forget, they want to get brett kavanaugh confirmed for the supreme court. how are they going to do that if the congress is shut down? in a funny way, maybe chuck schumer will say, yeah, let's shut the government down because that way kavanaugh wouldn't make it to the start of the supreme court session. who knows. >> the president also said there are evil people here in washington in this interview with rush limbaugh. let me read to you another quote from the president. you have a lot of bad people in washington. you knew that a long time ago. frankly, before i knew it, i had no idea how evil some of them are. but you have some great people, too. so he's doubling down on his evil people here in washington. >> what a revelation. i mean, it's washington. you have it in every city. listen. it fits his narrative. he blames -- in there is blame he assigns to various folks who criticize him or stand up to him. some of them, sadly, the media is often one of his favorite targets. but not just the media. even some in his own party and democrats. it's a consistent trump theme, and it's perhaps some consistent trump hyperbole there. >> let's get back to his tweet. a real bombshell this morning, carrie, when he said this is a terrible situation and attorney general jeff sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt right now before it continues to stain our country any further. he said bob mueller is totally conflicted and has 17 angry democrats doing his dirty work are a disgrace to the usa. adam schiff, the top democrat issued a statement following that. quote, the president of the united states just called hosattorney general to put an end to an investigation in which the president, his family and his campaign may be implicated. this is an attempt to obstruct justice hiding in plain sight. america must never accept it. what's your reaction to that statement from adam schiff? >> adam is not only on the house intelligence committee but also a former prosecutor. and as a former prosecutor, as anybody who used to be in the justice department, to see a president trying to pressure, for political purposes, the department of justice, it's just offensive. >> with that thought, here's sarah sanders. >> it's like the q. you knew i was coming. good afternoon. later today at 1:35 p.m., hawaii time, vice president mike pence at the request of president trump will participate in an honorable carry ceremony at joint base pearl harbor. the leader of north korea has followed through on his commitment to return the first set of remains to our homeland. these brave souls deserve nothing but our honor and respect. the families of these soldiers have been waiting for more than 60 years for their loved ones to come home. we hope that as remains are identified, families like those of commander john k. mcheel can find peace. john was assigned to navy squadron 125 and was killed leading a dive bomb mission. his nephew doug recently wrote the president a letter explaining how his uncle was a special person who grew up in the great depression and wanted to serve his country. another letter from mary in pennsylvania tells the president of her uncle corporal andrew boyer who has been missing in action in korea since september of 1951. mary has a picture of her uncle in her living room as a reminder of his commitment and service to our country. both of these men and their families represent thousands of proud patriotic american families. the president is committed to them and will work to bring them the closure they deserve. on another matter, we have seen all of the alarming images of the wildfires causing severe damage out west. the white house and fema have been actively monitoring the wildfires to ensure that federal assistance is provided as quickly as possible. on saturday, the president declared that an emergency exists for the california wildfires. as a result, fema has placed resources from eight different federal departments and agencies to support the efforts of local firefighters and relief organizations. the president will continue to monitor this ongoing emergency and make sure the people of california receive the assistance they need to keep them safe and recover. our prayers are with the firefighters who recently lost their lives battling these fires and their grieving families. lastly, the president has been closely following the ongoing situation in turkey involving pastor andrew brenson. we've seen no evidence that pastor brenson has done anything wrong, and we believe he's a victim of unfair and unjust attention by the government of turkey. at the president's direction, the department of treasury is sanctioning turkey's minister of justice and minister of interior, both of whom played leading roles in the arrest and detention of pastor brenson. any property or interest in property of both ministers within u.s. jurisdiction is blocked, and u.s. persons are generally prohibited from engaging in transactions with them. for anything further, i would refer you to the treasury department on that front. with that, eultake your questions. zeke? >> thank you. first, quickly. last month there were only three briefings with you for a total under an hour. we'd appreciate it if we get more time. a lot of issues we'd like to cover. one of those is the president's tweet this morning about the president's direction to jeff sessions asking him to end the mueller probe right now. the president said a few weeksing -- or a few months ago he's not going to intervene in the department of justice's investigation. was this more of a change in posture? >> it's not an order. it's the president's opinion and it's ridiculous that all of the corruption and dishonesty that's gone on with the launching of the witch hunt, the president wants to -- has watched this process play out. but he also wants to see it come to an end as he stated many times. and we look forward to that happening. >> and on a different topic, sarah, you mentioned the transfer of the remains from north korea. fulfilling his commitment to the president. there's a report yesterday that north korea is still assembling icbms. it's not yet possible to verify the remains being transferred back are human or american. how does that meet the test of north korea fulfilling its requirement? >> i'm not going to comment on your first part of the question on any potential intelligence matter. in terms of the remains, we have the best of the best that have been working over the last several weeks on this process. we'll keep you updated on it. but we feel comfortable in the assessment that they've made up until this point. john? >> sarah, on the next proposed tranche against china, the figure initially for tariffs was 10%. but it's our understanding that the president now wants to take that up to 25%. what's the reason behind increasing it from 10% to 25% and in a tit-for-tat, if you want to call a trade war something else, who has more bullets? china or the united states? >> the president firmly believes that the united states certainly does. we'll have an update later today, and there will be a call at 3:30 this afternoon to walk through the details of that update in regards to the question you asked about 10 to 25. the bottom line is the president is going to continue to hold china responsible for their unfair trade practices. this has gone on for long enough, and he's going to do something about it. >> does the president believe that -- >> back here, sorry. go ahead, john. >> the president has made some headway with the eu in terms of lowering trade barriers, taking steps toward leveling the playing field. does the president and his team believe that that is possible with china without some taking some real punitive measures? >> certainly we'd like to see the playing field level. the president, as both he and i think about 15 members of his administration have said repeatedly we'd like to see the unfair trade practices stop. until that happens, the president is going to hold their feet to the fire and continue to put pressure on china. he's not going to sit back and allow american industries and american workers to be taken advantage of. dave? >> sarah, churches around the country, synagogues, some evangelical leaders have been up in arms in the last few weeks about last year's tax cut law. there's a provision that's going to force them to pay a new 21% federal income tax on the benefits they give to certain employees. can you assure churches from the podium that they'll not have to pay a new tax? >> i'm not going to make a blanket generalization about every church but the goal of the tax forms and reforms package was to provide the greatest amount of relief to the greatest number of americans, and we feel it's done that. we feel the other policies that the president has put forward twhen comes to the economy have certainly moved the ball forward, made our economy infinitely stronger than it has in decades. you can see that by all of the numbers that have come out over the last year and a half. hunter? >> what is the president prepared to do to make sure they keep their tax-exempt status? >> certainly something we're looking into but i don't have anything specific for you on that front. hunter? >> federal law says that any threatening letter or communication aims at impedesing it obstruction of justice. he doesn't think it's obstruction because the president said he should stop it rather than ordering him to halt it. you just echoed that reasoning before. what i want to know, is rudy giuliani the one giving the president legal advice on his tweets, and does that statement reflect the opinion of the president's legal team? >> the president is not obstructing. he's fighting back. the president is stating his opinion. he's stating it clearly. and he certainly is expressing the frustration that he has with the level of corruption that we've seen from people like jim comey, peter struck. most of america is angry as well and there's no real reason he shouldn't be able to voice that opinion. margaret? >> tesla plans to spend $5 million to build a plant in china. they are saying it's not going to affect tesla operations in the u.s., but i'm wondering whether the administration has any concerns about tesla's plans. >> certainly we'd love to see all american companies investing here. i don't have anything specific on tesla but we'd encourage all companies to build their plants in america. put their investments here and not engage and help bolster a country like china that has continued to be part of a very unfair process and very unfair trading practices. john? >> thanks a lot, sarah. there was reaction to the president's tweets today from some of his allies on capitol hill. republican senator hatch said, i don't fully get what he's trying to do. and another republican senator said the mueller investigation needs to move forward. he said they ought to let them complete their work. do you agree with that sentiment expressed by senator thoon that this investigation by mr. mueller ought to be completed and not be cut off? >> we certainly think it should be completed. sooner rather than later. it's gone on for an extensive amount of time. they've still come up with nothing in regards to the president. we'd like to see it come to a close. we've said that a number of times. so, sure, we actually agree on that front. cecilia? >> just because we're tight on time. cecilia, go ahead. sorry, john. just because we're tight on time, i'll try to get to as many people as possible. >> does the president still believe that millions of people are voting illegally in this country? is that the basis for this push for requiring voter i.d.s? >> even if there are ten people voting illegally, it shouldn't happen. the president wants to see the integrity of our election systems upheld. he wants to make sure that anybody that's voting is somebody that should be voting. and that's something that should be celebrated. not discriminated. major? >> when was the last time the president went to a grocery store? >> i'm not sure. >> you go to the grocery store. i've never had to show an i.d. at the grocery store. i've never had to show an i.d. when i go to buy groceries. >> if you go to a grocery store and buy beer and wine you'll show your i.d. >> the president doesn't drink -- >> he's not saying every time he went in. he's saying when you go to the grocery store. i'm sure everybody in here who has been to a grocery store that's purchased beer or wine has probably had to show their i.d. if they didn't, then that's probably a problem with the grocery store. major? >> following up on john decker's question, you want the investigation to end. you want it to end, i presume, without any obstruction or interference. many have described the president's tweet as blowing off steam. is that a fair characterization? it's just an opinion he's throwing throughout. it has nothing to do with his actual governmental control of or supervision of this investigation. >> once again as i said earlier, the president is stating his opinion. it's not an order, but he's been, i think, crystal clear about how he feels about this investigation from the beginning. sarah? >> you said a moment ago the investigation itself is corrupt. the mueller investigation. you mentioned comey and mccabe and strzok. >> the entire investigation is based off of a dirty, discredited dossier that was paid for by an opposing campaign and had a lot of corruption within the entity which was overseeing it, which was peter strzok, james comey, andrew mccabe. i don't think we have to go into it every time we're here. >> if it is corrupt, why hasn't the president -- why doesn't he follow through on it? >> the president has allowed this process to play out. but he thinks it's time for it to come to an end. sere? >> thank you, sarah. i'm wondering if you can clarify this tweet from this morning. is it the president's desire for, first, sessions to unrecuse himself from the probe and is it also his desire for the special counsel to be fired? >> i think i've clarified this about ten times now. it's the president's opinion. i don't have anything further. steve? >> yes, sarah. last night at the tampa rally, the president again pushed for creation of a space force as a new military branch. the defense department today missed the deadline to submit a report to congress about how this space force is to be structured. and we're told the white house is now twice rejected drafts because the defense department doesn't want a space force. it would rather create a space command under the existing military structure. in view of this, how is the president going to force the creation of a space force? >> we're continuing to work with the department of defense to figure out and determine the best way forward. something the president feels strongly about. and we're going to work with our team there and figure out the best solution. >> i have a question about the president is meeting with inner city pastors. today secretary carson pushed policies that would raise the rent on many poor people. also policies that would slow the anti-immigration initiative. what is it going to say to pastors who may be hurt by some of these policies? >> certainly that's a reason to sit down with these individuals to hear their feedback and concerns. the primary point of discussion for today is to discuss prison reform, but i wouldn't be surprised if they raise those issues. that's why the president has invited them here so he can have those ongoing conversations and determine how best to help them in a number of different situations. >> [ inaudible ]. >> i'm sorry? >> are those policies raising rents on poor people and slowing anti-segregation initiatives, are they helping inner cities? >> i would have to look at the specific policies you're referencing. i'd be happy to do that after the briefing. julie? >> members of this administration are currently talking about big cuts to the refugee resettlement program, currently capped at $45,000 but as low as $25,000 next year. does the president feel this country admits too many refugees? what does he think the proper level is and what would the rationale be for scaling it back? >> this is part of an ongoing discussion and no policy decisions have been made. but we'll keep you posted as they are. jeff? >> sarah -- >> [ inaudible ]. >> i'm sorry? >> does the president think there are too many refugees coming in? >> we want tos make sure we know who they are, why they are coming and that they pose no danger or threat to americans. that's the number one priority. we want to make sure that we have the processes in place and the ability to vet any individual that would come into this country. if the department of homeland security and other agencies, that they would work in coordination with determine that they don't have the ability to vet a certain number, then the president would have concerns with that. the number one priority is national security and making sure we have the ability to properly vet and process any individual that comes into this country. jeff? >> you said the president wants this investigation to be completed. he has not yet made the decision if he'll sit down with bob mueller. isn't he part of dragging this out a bit? and also when he tells you something personally, do you take it as a directive or as his opinion? >> on the first part, i would refer you to the president's outside counsel and specific negotiations with the special counsel. and the second part, i'm sorry? >> you said his tweet was his opinion. when he tells you something as a member of his staff, how do you know if it's a directive from the president or if it's simply his opinion? >> the president makes it pretty clear when i'm having those conversations with him. >> seemed pretty clear. his tweet this morning said he wanted to -- time for the investigation to be stopped. does the president know that jeff sessions can't stop the investigation? has he directed rod rosenstein to? >> the president is well aware of how the process works. he's stating his opinion. >> what does the president plan to do about 3d plastic guns? and has he spoken to the nra about this snsh. >> the president is glad this was give more time to review. turkey this directly with president erdogan. >> yes, they have discussed it on several occasions. >> was he upset about it? >> i think you can see in the actions the president made today he's not happy with turkey's decision not to release the pastor. >> possibility of shutdown on taxes, does the president support the way capital gains are taxed. on the possibility of a shutdown, is the president talking about potentially endorsing a government shutdown before november's election, after november's election or both. >> on the first part of your question, this is something that has a lot of support from various people. no administration policy has been determined but the president asked the treasury department to take a look into it. on the second part of your question regards to shutdown, the president is focused on timing of before or after the election, he's focused on results. he's been talking about this a year and a half. our immigration system is completely broken. he's begging and has been for congress, particularly democrats in congress, step up, do their jobs, stoppic canning the ball down the field and work with him to fix the system. it's that simple. >> does the president have a personal opinion whether or not the system works -- >> again, he's asked the treasury department to look into it. david. >> thank you, sarah. two quickies in tampa, does the president encourage support people that show up qanonfor trump? is the white house willing to say in view of what happened to one of our tv colleagues last night he's wrong for vocal supporters to be menacing towards journalists doing their job in a situation like that or any situation? >> the first part, the president condemns and denounces any group that would incite violence against another individual and certainly doesn't support groups that would promote that type of behavior. we've been clear about that a number of times since the beginning of the administration. on the second part of your question, the president, as i just said, does not support violence against anyone or anything. we've been very clear every single time we've been asked about that. when it comes to the media, the president does think that the media holds a responsibility. we fully support a free press. there also comes a high level of responsibility with that. the media routinely reports on classified information and government secrets that put lives in danger and risk valuable national security tools. this has happened both in our administration and in past administrations. one of the worst cases was the reporting on the u.s. ability to listen to osama bin laden's satellite phone in the late '90s. because of that reporting he stopped using that phone and the country lost valuable intelligence. unfortunately it's not standard top abandon common sense ethical practices. this is a two-way street. we certainly support free press, condemn violence against anybody but we ask people act responsibly and report accurately and fairly. >> sarah, nobody was being violent last night. they were trying to prevent a broadcaster from getting a broadcast out and yelling his network sucks. is that right or wrong? >> i'm sorry. what was the first part your question? >> no one was being violent in terms of hitting anybody and no broadcaster was broadcasting state secrets. they were trying to do standups at a rally and people yelling over them trying. >> cheri: them from their their jobs. do you support that or not. >> why we certainly support freedom of the appreciation we support freedom of speech. we think those things go hand in hand. >> he talked a little about the tweet earlier, also the tweet about paul manafort and comparing his treatment to that of al capone. he seems to say he thought he was being treated unfairly. i guess, first of all, why does -- does the president feel like paul manafort is being treated unfairly. when he talks about solitary confinement and the fact that manafort hasn't been convicted yet, does this administration have concerns about solitary confinement of people outside of paul manafort. >> i'm not aware of a policy decision on this front. certainly the president is clear, he thinks paul manafort has been treated unfairly. >> thank you. two question, one india, one pakistan. can you confirm if they have accepted prime minister modi to be special guest next year in january. >> i know the invitation has been extended but i don't believe a final decision has been made. i do know both secretary mattis and secretary pompeo will be traveling to india, i believe it's next month, and will begin the dialogue in the process and potential discussion for a presidential visit later in the year. >> pakistani concern historic electi election, mr. khan on corruption election in pakistan. he had very little to say good things about india, u.s. and india but still the prime minister of pakistan today. how are you going to deal with him? >> united states -- prosecute of u.s. pakistan relations. >> certainly united states and ind india have a deep and abiding strategic partnership. we're going to continue to build on that partnership and advance cooperation. i think you'll see that at the meeting. that will take place with secretaries pompeo and mattis next month. peter. >> does the president believe paul manafort is innocent of the charges he faces. >> i don't believe that's the president's role to play. he believes he's being treated unfairly. that's all i can say. >> ask you a follow-up views expressed on twitter attorney general jeff sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt right now. has the president said that directly to jeff sessions at any point? >> i'm not aware of the president stating his opinion. time for one more question. >> to rod rosenstein. >> not that i'm aware. >> a follow on that. the president's opinion session should end mueller probe but also his opinion the mueller probe should play itself out. >> the president believes he's watched this process play out. he'd like to see it come to a conclusion since it's been going on for the better part of a year and a half and they found no conclusion between the president as he said many, many times before. the president has an event in a couple minutes. >> you've also said the president believes he can fire mueller. doesn't it look weak on twitter for him to say sessions should end this probe when it's rosenstein that can end it and the president can end it. >> it's not weak for the president of the united states to state his opinion. thanks so much, guys. all right. so there you have it. sarah sanders on the most sensitive issue, this tweet from the president this morning that attorney general jeff sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt right now before it continues to stain our country any further. gloria borger said this is not an order, simply an opinion. he wants to see it come to an end. clearly he's angry about the entire investigation. >> she made a point of saying this is not obstructing. what he's doing is fighting back. and when she was asked is he blowing off steam, she said this is his opinion, it is not an order. but he's been crystal clear about how he feels. i don't know. dana mentioned this before. when a president says you should do something, what's the difference between that and you must do something? >> it's an important issue. she also said, jim sciutto, that this entire investigation, the mueller investigation, is based on a dirty, discredited dossier. >> the white house podium has become a platform for repeating false information. we've seen it for a year and a half now. that is an abjectly false statement. it's in the documents. the investigation began before the documents existed. when campaign aide george papadopoulos bragged to an australian diplomat about russians offering help and having dirt on hillary clinton and that diplomat, who is a close u.s. ally of the u.s., member of the five group of intelligence sharing nations felt it was significant enough to volunteer to come to the fbi with this information. that's what kicked off this counter-intelligence situation. sarah sanders knows that, the president knows that, it's in the public record, yet she's willing to repeat what is a false statement. this is something the president repeats all the time as part of a broader and strategic attack on his feud to undermine the investigation. in addition to that, listen to her language. witch hunt has now become not just something that shows up in the president's tweets but repeated from the white house podium and a description of legal investigation endorsed by republicans and democrats. a shorthand. doesn't bother saying mueller probe, it is the witch hunt, which is taken from the president's tweet. they could dismiss the president's tweet as letting off steam but it's become official moniker endorsed by both republicans and democrats. so the president's words do matter. they are repeated from the white house podium. >> another sensitive issue, day two of the paul manafort trial, federal trial in alexandria, virginia, federal trump campaign chairman and the president weighing in on twitter making all sorts of references to the way al capone is treated, paul manafort is being treated. she said, sarah sanders, i think paul manafort is treated unfairly. it's unusual during a criminal trial for the president of the united states to weigh in.

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Wolf Blitzer looks at politics, breaking news and international stories. trump campaign manager facing off against the russia investigation special counsel robert mueller. you cannot understate just how big this is, no matter which way it goes. on one hand, if, for example, mr. manafort is found guilty, that makes it a real problem for the president of the united states to continue to call this a witch hunt. now, what about this case? we have 18 charges in the indictment, something like three dozen witnesses. the former partner of paul manafort, rick gates, could testify. the trial could last up to three weeks. at the end of the day, though, a big deal for paul manafort himself, who was a huge power broker in washington, d.c. he has another trial scheduled later this year, wolf. >> and they're accusing him of taking about $60 million from pro-russian politicians in Wolf Blitzer looks at politics, breaking news and international stories. on the job. now that seems to have changed, and we got a little hint of that yesterday when we were in the oval office as the president was swearing in the new secretary of veterans affairs. he gave john kelly a shoutout for it being his one year on the job as chief of staff. john kelly smiled and saluted the president in return. but this is quite surprising given that john kelly seemed to be on the chopping block in recent weeks here, wolf. he had been telling aides that he believed that this is a way he could rehabilitate his image in the west wing, something he thinks has been badly changed because of the fallout from that rob porter scandal, the staff secretary who was accused of domestic abuse of his ex-wife. john kelly took the brunt of the fall for that because he was told -- or we were told by sources he actually had known of the allegations against porter for months before they surfaced, yet allowed him to keep working in the west wing here anyway, wolf. so john kelly seems to be doing a little bit of rehab here, believing he can change his image here in the west wing if he stays on for a little longer, which he does seem to have agreed to do. the caveat being white house officials do not sign contracts. it is not guaranteed he will be here through 2020, through the re-election campaign. but of course, right now that seems to be what president trump would like. >> at least for now, key words. a vote of confidence for john kelly. kaitlan collins, thanks very much. let's bring in former department of justice prosecutor joseph morino and our gloria borger. what do you think? >> it's really surprising since we have known through our reporting that the president's been calling around to people asking for potential replacements. it seems to me, and julie knows more about this than i do, that this is a story the white house wanted out there. maybe it's a way for kelly to rehabilitate himself because there are plenty of stories about how he wasn't really in charge, that jared and ivanka could walk into the president's office any time they wanted, and he had tried to put a stop to that. obviously the rob porter case was a problem for him. we all watched his face during helsinki. he didn't seem to be smiling a lot. so it seems to me they're putting this story out so that as long as kelly decides to stay, the message is i'm in charge here, the president likes me, and if and when i decide to leave, it will be my decision and nobody else's. now, maybe i'm being cynical about this. maybe he will stay through 2020. but that seems a little far fetched to me. >> what do you think? >> i think gloria is absolutely right. i think the most interesting thing about this story is that we know about it, right, which i think is clearly by design. you know, as kaitlan reported, there have been whispers, rumors for many, many weeks and months now that john kelly was on his way out the door, that he doesn't actually have much of a role anymore when it comes to the president and what's actually going on in this white house. those have certainly picked up in recent weeks. the on boarding of bill shine in a big communications role. z -- i do think that there's an aspect to this which is about john kelly wanting to be able to say publicly that i'm here until i'm not here anymore. i'm in charge of what i'm in charge of. it's not totally clear. many people i've talked to in the west wing don't know exactly what that is. but he has been sidelined to a great degree. this may be president trump feeling like he can keep him around and still do everything he wants to do. >> they really wanted this story out, the white house. "the wall street journal" broke it. within a nanosecond, every other news organization got confirmation from senior officials at the white house. >> seems like you've covered the white house. >> once that happens, you know they want that story out for whatever reason. let's talk about manafort for a moment. joseph, you've argued before this federal judge in alexandria, virginia. the rocket docket. they're moving quickly over there, aren't they? >> absolutely, wolf. it's not only the rocket docket, but judge ellis is particularly known to have minimal patience for any kind of theatrics. he's a by the book, get to the point kind of judge. he's a prosecutor's judge in the form of he will not tolerate the sort of drama that sometimes defense counsels like to bring to the table. we do our thing when we're on the defense side. so not only is it a fast jurisdiction, but this judge will move things along. i would not be surprised if opening statements are not beginning at 9:00 tomorrow morning. >> very, very quickly indeed. 16 jurors, 4 alternates. it means a lot what happens in alexandria, virginia. >> absolutely crucial for the mueller probe. it's not because the trial itself is going to be about the russia probe because it really isn't. but this is key. if mueller's team fails to get a conviction on manafort, the wind will be at the back of those who are screaming witch hunt, namely the president of the united states. if they get a conviction on manafort, it will be very important to them as they go forward. and doern't forget, we're probay going to hear from somebody like rick gates, manafort's former business partner, who has pled to mueller. so that will be interesting to hear for all of us. we're going to get some kind of insight about how deeply the mueller investigation has really looked into the private business dealings of people in the trump administration. that could scare some people. but very, very key for mueller, they need to win this one. >> they certainly do. it comes a the a time when the president is now echoing his private attorney rudy giuliani, tweeting all of a sudden, you know what, there was no collusion, but collusion isn't even a crime. >> right. it's an amazing sort of moving of the goalposts, even for this president, who likes to move the goalposts. he's no longer saying that it's his argument that nobody in his campaign ever had contact with that's been tested under scenarios like this. it would be a stretch in any case. it doesn't mean it can't work. it certainly has teeth, but i could see that's the next pivot to where the strategy is going. >> but isn't conspiracy to defraud the united states government a crime as opposed to a technicality, which is effectively what collusion is? >> it is certainly a crime, absolutely. it's a serious crime. it's punishable with serious consequences. but i could certainly see if your audience isn't a jury in a district court but the american people, then that's the message. it's like, you know, look, it may have been -- the trump tower meeting may have been an attempt at something, but it didn't bear any fruit, so let's not worry about it. it didn't amount to anything. if this biased prosecutor with his 13 angry democrats on his team bring charges, well, it's a technicality, don't worry about it. so i could see the message going in that direction. >> there is also this whole question of wittingly or unwittingly. if they have information that the russians were conspireing to defraud the united states government but are somehow able to argue that those involved, if there were any, in the trump campaign didn't know what they were doing, that's clearly going to be a line of defense they're going to try to use, at least try to argue before an actual jury, if not in the jury of public opinion if this were to go to some congressional procedure. >> intent is always something the prosecutors look very closely at. guys, thank you very much. don't go too far. we have more to discuss. the president reportedly considering another tax cut, this one just for largely the richest americans. why he bypassed congress to do it. plus, they're among the biggest donors for conservatives, but today the president just went to war, really, with the koch brothers, calling them a total joke. you'll hear why. and just hours from now, americans will be able to buy plans for 3d guns. the president says he's concerned as lawmakers sound the alarm. we have new details and what these guns can do. liberty mutual saved us almost $800 when we switched our auto and home insurance. with liberty, we could afford a real babysitter instead of your brother. hey! oh, that's my robe. is it? 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"the new york times" now reporting that the administration is considering bypassing congress to grant a $100 billion tax cut almost exclusively to the very wealthy. joining us now, the man who broke the story, tax and economics reporter for "the new york times." tell us, jim, how this would work. >> sure. the treasury department would issue a rule, wolf. it would change the way that the government considers the word cost when it comes up with capital gains taxation rates. so essentially what would happen is they would make it so that capital gains are now indexed to inflation, which means the price you paid for a stock or a home a long time ago would be calculated in today's dollars, not on the price that you paid for it in terms of how much tax you would owe on that when you sell it. i know that's wonky, but it works out to a big cut to really the top 0.1% of americans who pay most of our capital gains taxes. >> that would be a huge bonanza for them. i understand it's something that former president george h.w. bush considered back in 1992 before leaving office. he didn't follow through on it. why? >> well, his treasury department concluded that it was not within the government's power to do this. subsequent presidents have looked at this and concluded the same. what's happened now is the conservative activists have pointed to some new legal writings from conservatives saying no, actually, the treasury department does have this authority. they're urging the trump administration to reconsider what has been a pretty uniform declaration from presidents on down the line. >> jim tankersley, thank you very much. let's discuss this more. gloria and julie are still with us. it would be a big deal for the very, very wealthy if they didn't have to worry about paying all those capital gains taxes. >> it would be, but not so fast. first of all, i think this would wind up in court immediately. the democrats would jump on it and talk about, you know, this is a tax cut for the wealthy because capital gains taxes are largely paid by high earners. i think it's a test of executive power. i remember -- i'm old enough to remember when the democrats were screaming about barack obama's imperial presidency because of his executive action on dreamers. well, this is beyond that. tax legislation originates in the house of representatives. so i think this would just wind up in court and they'd be asking for that. >> what do you think? >> it isn't anything new for the administration to be figuring out what they can do with their executive power when it comes to the tax code. we know how hard it is to pass legislation on capitol hill. even the obama administration did consider using executive action to actually cut down on the use of tax loopholes, these corporate inversions, for instance and some of the tax methods corporations would use to cut down on their tax bills. it's always very controversial. both sides do it. i think the issue with this particular move would be the administrati administration's argument is that president trump is a populist. everything he's doing, it may look like on paper it's for the rich, but it accrues to the advantage of the middle class, folks who need jobs and higher wages. there's no way of making that argument when it comes to this. it's clearly, as my colleagues reported, two-thirds of the benefit of this goes to the top 0.1%. clearly a tax cut for the wealthy. it would be sold and debated in a political realm as such. >> by the way, the president's supporters, for example, in iowa, farmers, are complaining because they're being hurt. so, you know, politically, as julie was saying, this is not a win-win for him. it might be a win for his business. it might be a win for him personally. we don't know because we haven't looked at his taxes. but for most of his supporters, i don't think so. >> the very, very wealthy supporters, it would be a nice little bonanza. let's talk about the koch brothers for a moment. all of a sudden the president is going to war with the koch brothers, who have been among the most ardent supporters of republicans over the years. the president tweeting this morning the koch brothers are total jokes, their network is highly overrated. he says, these are two nice guys with bad ideas. how risky is it to all of a sudden go to war with the koch brothers who have provided so much money to various conservative think tanks and influential organizations? >> look, they've never been trump fans. they disagree with him on almost every piece of economic policy, especially tariffs, for example. they made the case that we're going to support candidates, either democrat or republican, who support us. this is a big rift in the republican party. they were so dependable for republicans. they're not trump fans, period. i think the president just punched back. >> i hesitate to ever try to guess what is behind some of his tweets, but if he were to calculate this, you're not going to stop the koch brothers from weighing in, in a big way on the republican side. they're going to continue to do that no matter whether the president insults them or not. this is kind of a free shot for him. they're the republican establishment. they're for, you know, free trade. they're not for the tariffs. they think that it's a trade war that he's sparked by engaging in this tit-for-tat on trade. there also have been in the past support of pro-immigration policies, which obviously is very much at odds with what president trump has been saying. there are these differences, and he won't hesitate to point them out, knowing they'll still be there for the vast majority of republicans in the midterm. >> and they're also for prison reform, which is something jared kushner has been working on. they've worked with democrats on prison reform. jeff sessions is not their biggest supporter on that, but jared kushner is. the koch brothers are kind of -- they're hard to pigeon hole sometimes. trump is a little easier. >> all the sudden, julie, we're hearing between now and midterms in november, we're going to see the president doing all these politic political rallies out there, going state to state, district to district. tonight he's in florida, in tampa at a huge rally. >> and pennsylvania later this week. he's clearly chomping at the bit. we heard earlier in the year he was going to try to confine his campaigning to deep red states where there was potentially a vulnerable democrat where he had won big and could really boost the republican base and try to damage the democrat and help republicans keep control of the senate that way. now it seems like he did this interview with sean hannity on friday on the radio, saying he wants to travel six to seven days a week when it gets to be 60 days out. i doubt we're going to see that extensive of a campaign. clearly the president wants to be out there, wants to be in these rallies, sort of throwing out that red meat for the base. >> he loves those political rallies. we'll cover them, of course, as we always do. guys, thank you very, very much. despite talks, u.s. spy agencies are saying north korea is working on new missiles. is president trump getting played by kim jong-un? 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"the washington post" is reporting that intelligence officials say work is under way on one or possibly two new intercontinental ballistic missiles, missiles that could theoretically reach the united states. after the summit in singapore, president trump declared that the nuclear threat from north korea was over. as recently as a couple of weeks ago, he also said there was no rush for north korea to dismantle its arsenal. susan glasser is a cnn global affairs analyst, staff writer at "the new yorker." josh rogan is a columnist for "the washington post." thanks very much for joining us. what do you think? all of a sudden, the nuclear threat was over, everything is great, and now there are indications the north koreans are working on new intercontine intercontinental ballistic missiles. >> that's what happens when you eat dessert before breakfast. this process of the north korea nuclear deal was really a deal in name only. so secretary of state mike pompeo was still filling in the details. north korea never agreed to dismantle its missiles. that's what brought them to the table. in that sense, of course they're not going to give up that. their development of one that could reach the united states is why arguably trump was negotiating with them in the first place. >> this is what the north koreans do. this is what negotiating with north korea is like. pompeo knows that, okay. he bought the ticket. now he's got to take the ride all the way to the end. they're not going to give up anything without something in return. what they want next is they want a declaration of the end of hostilities of the korean war, a path towards a peace treaty and normalization. what the u.s. wants is for north korea to declare its nuclear arsenal. that's the first step that we want. there's an opportunity. mike pompeo is going to singapore for a meeting with the north korean foreign minister. it's expected they're going to have a talk. in advance of that, the white house held a high-level meeting chaired by john bolton on friday to discuss what they're going to do. all right. this is going to be a very long process. patient diplomacy. one step forward, two steps back. it's going to get a lot worse before it gets any better. >> let's talk about iran while i have you guys. yesterday the president at that news conference with the italian prime minister, he was asked about iran, and he very flatly all of a sudden, despite the threats of a few days earlier, said, you know, he's ready for direct talks. i want to play precisely what he said and then i want you to listen to secretary of state mike pompeo because he, quote, clarified what the president said. >> i believe in meeting. i would certainly meet with iran if they wanted to meet. i don't know that they're ready yet. they're having a hard time right now. no preconditions, no. they want to meet, i'll meet. any time they want. >> if the iranians demonstrate a commitment to make fundamental changes in how they treat their own people, reduce their maligned behavior, can agree that it's worthwhile to enter into a nuclear agreement that actually prevents proliferation, then the president said he's prepared to sit down and have the conversation with them. >> except that's not what the president said. the president said no preconditions at all. secretary pompeo outlined three specific, very tough conditions that the iranians would have to endorse before there could be such a meeting. >> you know, being secretary of state for donald trump means you're on perpetual cleanup duty when it comes to issues like this. secretary pompeo has a really tough job in that trump has given to all caps tweets in the middle of the night, has given to things that are at odds with the strategy. perhaps there's more coordination than we realize to those tweets, which i think is often the case, but interestingly, i think that we thought, well, gee, mike pompeo is going to be different than rex tillerson. obviously he's been more successful so far in managing his relationship with the president, but on this iran issue, if you listen to his remarkable testimony last week, it's very similar. he's saying, there is no change in u.s. policy. don't pay attention to exactly what the president of the united states says. i'm going to fill in the blanks for you. so my question is, how long is that going to work as a trump management strategy? and then there's the question of the iranians. i think, you know, josh, they're going to be a lot less likely to come to the table right away than the north koreans were. >> there was a statement from the iranian foreign ministry broadcast on state television in iran saying not so fast, we're not yet ready to meet with president trump. >> right. trump may think that iran is like north korea. if we get real belligerent then play nice, they'll come to the table and make a deal. iran is not north korea. you have to ask yourself, why would they come to the table now? what iran is actually doing right now is they're working with our allies to sustain the deal we left to isolate us. and it's working. they have more cards than north korea. they have a different kind of country, a different kind of government than north korea. what pompeo laid out, if iran changes its government, changes all its activities and then yields to all of our demands, then we can talk. well, that's a recipe for policy stagnation and diplomatic i understand -- intrance yesigenc. we're looking at a standoff that will last a long time. >> the preconditions secretary pompeo laid out are tough for any iranian regime. president rouhani, is he going to accept a commitment to make fundamental changes in how the iranian regime treats their own people, reduce their maligned behavior, and they have to agree to enter into a nuclear agreement that actually prevents proliferation. and remember, the state department still regards the iranian regime as the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism. >> well, that's right. and that's where you see this conflict between trump and pompeo. again, pompeo just gave a very strongly worded speech at the ronald reagan library in california, in which he basically encouraged opponents of the regime to rise up against it. >> sounds like regime change. >> well, that's right. number one. number two, you still have a legally binding u.n. resolution that the six major powers in the world agreed to in negotiating with iran. the united states unilaterally walked out of that. no one else has ripped up the deal. it's a much harder thing to negotiate with a country after you've just unilaterally ripped up a deal with it, which is not the case with north korea. >> and if the administration is demanding that iran give us a great, fabulous deal, how are they going to defend a deal with north korea that doesn't meet those standards? they've got two different philosophies, two different ideologies. neither of them really seems to be working. and what you got is broad confusion, both inside the government, outside the government, around washington, around the world about what the policy actually is. and that cannot be a good thing, either for the united states or its interests. >> josh, susan, thanks very much. still ahead, president trump is embracing the defense laid out by his lawyer rudy giuliani. why he's now also saying that collusion is not a crime. are they getting out ahead of something? and downloadable death. that's what printable 3d guns are being called. these untraceable weapons could be widely available as early as tomorrow here in the united states. anyone could go out and get them despite any criminal background records or being on a terror watch list. what is the president of the united states saying about it? stand by. s overachiever. behr premium plus, "behr" through it all with a top-rated paint at a great price. find it exclusively at the home depot. less than a dollar a day. his secret? selectquote. in just minutes, a selectquote agent will comparison shop nearly a dozen highly-rated life insurance companies, and give you a choice of your five best rates. duncan's wife cassie got a $750,000 policy for under $22 a month. give your family the security it needs at a price you can afford. working with the nra. then nothing happens. sure as we're here today, nothing is going to happen from this administration. we're going to have to pass legislation because they are just enslaved by the nra. >> i don't care if a gun is made out of metal, made out of plastic. if it can fire a bullet and take someone's life, then it needs to be regulated. >> cnn's tom foreman is joining us now with more on what are being called ghost guns. take us through the controversy. >> you said the two key words. undetectable and untraceable. those two do not always go together when talking about these guns. undetectable, you're talking about something like this. a fully plastic gun, one that's been made out of a machine and basically is sort of milled out in such a way that it cannot be detected by a metal detector. however, what we're also talking about here are guns like this. this is a device made by defense distributed called the ghost gun, which helps mill some metal parts so you can make a gun that is untraceable. in that case, you're talking about something much more advanced than that single-shot plastic gun we're talking about. you can make an ar-15 or something like that with an amalgam of these parts. the concern with the untraceable gun is, in fact, people are being given the capability to make a gun in their garage or their basement that nobody knows exists until the gun is finished and in their hands. now, in truth, under law, people can do this right now. they've done it for many years. it's just that this new machinery and 3d printing and this automatic milling of devices makes it a lot more effective and more likely that people could get guns like this are people who maybe should not be able to get guns, who would be forbidden from a legal purchase or would be on basically a list to be watched of people who have problems out there, wolf. >> what's the national rifle association saying about this? >> well, they are all in favor of it from all indications out there. there's a tweet that basically said 3d printed ghost guns, as they call these, which can be made at home and don't have serial numbers symbolize freedom and innovation. that is not the view of all people out there. there are certainly a lot of hobbyists who find this very interesting, but it is a bigger question. as this technology advances and it gets even easier for people to just make a gun, a fully functional, big-league firearm at home with nobody knowing about it, that's where the concern steps in for other folks out there. the technology is not quite there yet in terms of an undetectable gun. but in terms of untraceable guns, yeah, that's moving along very fast. wolf? >> clearly no background checks necessary. tom foreman, thank you very much. any moment now, by the way, the jury for the former trump campaign chairman paul manafort will be seated. plus, the white house chief of staff john kelly committing to his role in the white house for the next two years. a source telling cnn kelly wanted to send a message to his staff. we have details. stay with us. know what? no, what? i just switched to geico and got more. more? got a company i can trust. that's a heck of a lot more. over 75 years of great savings and service. you can't argue with more. why would ya? geico. expect great savings and a whole lot more. the editor at large chris solisa is joining us. update us on the books. okay. we know donald trump is not an avid reader per se. he skims, he's into visuals, he's not a big book reader. but that hasn't stopped him from offering a lot of opinions on books. you will start the sense on what he likes. the russian hoax, the elicit scheme to clear hillary clinton and frame donald trump. where do you think he came down on that one? hot seller, already number one. let's go to the next one. the case against impeaching trump. you'll notice the lawyer skeptical of the impeachment of donald trump and has been on the air talking about it a lot. i would encourage all people with trump derangement syndrome to read more of a medical recommendation than anywhere there. and to the next one, you'll recognize that guy, wolf. that's scene spicer. -- sean spicer. this book has been savagely reviewed. people say his facts are wrong and it's not a good retelling of his time in the white house. there's one critic who really liked it. it's a story told with both heart and knowledge. donald john trump. okay, now, what really happened? this is a conservative radio talk show host. a book which everyone is talking about. last time i checked on amazon, not that many people were talking about that book but whatever. okay, now things turn and you'll see why. "fire and fury," if you didn't know this book existed, you haven't been paying attention, you have been living on another planet. why c michael wolf's book says, the fake book of a mentally deranged person. full of lies, misinterpretation and sources that don't exist. a higher loyalty by james comey. where do you think he came down on that one? a third-ranked book that should never have been written. and now, let's go to the next. the book we're all waiting for, bob woodward, my colleague at "the washington post." legend of water gate. he's written lots and lots of books on presidents, eight at last count. "fear: trump in the white house." bob has not offered thoughts on the upcoming book but he did offer a thought on bob in 2013. only on twitter, only the obama white house can get away with attacking bob woodward. they weren't really attacking bob woodward. it was sort of a misunderstanding, but that's here nor there. fear, let's see, is it pro? it is donald trump like it, positive or negative review? i'm going on the negative review side is my guess, but we'll see. we have another month or so, wolf. back to you. >> september 11th. we'll all have a chance. chris solizza, good review. more on the breaking news. facebook discovering dozens of new fake accounts ahead of the midterm elections here in the united states which may be linked to the russians. we have new details, standby.

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thanks to our powerful trade policies, the trade deficit is falling and falling. american steel mills are back open for business. we are starting to set new records, and nobody believes it could happen this quickly. democrats want to raise your taxes. they want to destroy your jobs. they want to crush our industries with crippling regulations. and you know the stock market is up almost 40% since that great november day. and america now is winning again like they haven't won before. >> bill: it went on like for over an hour. the headline. u.s. workers get the biggest pay raise in 10 years. wage growth that has been stagnant for americans. >> absolutely. gdp numbers last quarter were very good. around expectations a little over 4%. more than sustainable growth. something you can hang your hat on. again, economists, moody's say if the trade policies were fully implemented you could shave up to 3/10 of a point off the gdp. it's trillions of dollars of lost economic activity. >> bill: scaramucci is writing about a visit to illinois. he says trump's attack on tax cuts, deregulation and tariffs on foreign competitors is a winning strategy. a strategy designed with workers and not just wall street in mind. the commitment that american companies give to train 3.8 million more workers over the next five years. >> it's great. we shouldn't be demonizing wall street. that's not a fair thing to do. wall street is not suffering in this economy. they're doing quite well. the dow is record highs, s&p is doing quite well as well. that's good. the macroeconomic numbers. the guys who support employers deserve to be held up high and undergird the economies, the pillars of it. that was barack obama's approach to populous economic messaging to attack wall street and the holders of money and that's the wrong way to go. >> bill: the economy is always a hot issue. you wonder what this news does to democratic talking points. they will level against republicans. >> it is difficult to envision the message they'll take to average voters. employment is around 4%. record low unemployment numbers for minorities and african-americans, latinos. this is all good news and the message that democrats will try to leverage is something familiar to us from the bush era, the hamburger flipper jobs. jobs that aren't necessarily great jobs. low paying, low prospects for advancement employment. to somebody who has a job who didn't have a job who only spends 22 weeks out of work as opposed to 30, 40, 50, they'll take it. it will be tough to message that. >> bill: noah, thank you. we'll see what happens on the tariffs. you make a good point. let's see where it goes. >> sandra: 65 years in the making, vice president mike pence in hawaii today to take part in the honorable carry ceremony receiving what are said to be the remains of dozens of u.s. service members killed during the korean war. the remains were turned over by north korea to fulfill a promise made by kim jong-un at that singapore summit with the president. greg palkot is live in london with the latest on this. greg, what more do we know about these remains? >> we do know a little more, sandra. that's important. thought to be 55 remains of u.s. service members killed and lost in the korean war are being flown over to hawaii. they arrived last friday from north korea to a u.s. base in south korea. since then there has been an initial examination of the remains. an official today confirming he does believe they are american and they are from the war. to show what they're up against doing the final forensic examination in hawaii, there was only one dog tag included in the remains and they don't know whether that dog tag is related to what was turned over. the remains were put in caskets and draped in the united nations flag and then transferred to a plane and on their way now to hawaii. >> sandra: what's the significance of vice president mike pence's participation? >> bill: very important for him. he will participate in a ceremony. his father fought in the korean war. that's the biggest thing for him. he will receive the remains in the honorable carry ceremony happening at the joint base pearl harbor hickam, aside from the personal and human significance of the transfer it has big diplomatic importance. remember, this was one of the promises made by north korean leader kim jong-un to president trump at their summit in singapore in june. there hasn't been a lot of other takeaways as of yet from that summit but an important one happening today back in hawaii. back to you. >> bill: next hour here our headliner we'll hit the important stories. the former house speaker newt gingrich is live coming up next hour. join us for that then. this rally last night in tampa was something else. >> sandra: you were live last night covering all of it. what a crowd it was. >> bill: the crowd was jacked up. tampa, something we talk about every presidential cycle. a couple big elections coming up in november down there. they turned out in a significant way. we'll see how it reflects in 97 >> the outset of this administration it became clear from early on in a very real sense we inherited a cyber crisis. the last administration all but neglected cybersecurity even though the digital threats were growing more numerous and dangerous by the day. make no mistake about it, those days are over. >> bill: he suggested the obama administration is to blame for the cybersecurity issues plaguing our country. peter king, how are you. everybody points fingers at everybody else. no, you did it, you didn't follow through, no, it is your job, your responsibility. where does it stop? >> i would say in fairness to the obama administration jay johnson, secretary tried. at the end of the eight years the obama administration we weren't better off than we were. A look at the day's news and headlines. they waited until to month after the election and president obama told them to put together the report. they put it together in three weeks and the findings of that report were different from everything we were telling us. right up until december 5 we were being told that russia, while they were interfering they weren't favoring anyone. suddenly we're told russia was favoring president trump all along. which i don't believe was the case. clapper is proving my point. the administration did talk, they did threaten russia and no impact whatsoever. they continued what they were doing before. >> bill: nielsen said the next 9/11 will reach us online instead of an airplane. 21 states have no concrete plan to fight back against any intrusion. how could that be? what do we need to do now? >> again, this is really up to the department of homeland security to control the efforts. we have to pressure the states and encourage them to cooperate with the federal government with a shared threat analysis and come up with defenses so their voting system cannot be interfered with. you do have 50 different states with their own way of doing it. it's important for them to realize they can be hacked. >> bill: are you hearing from administration and the states that they're taking it seriously? >> i think more of the states have to realize this is a serious threat. in the last election there is no really finding that they interfered with the vote totals but they can try to disrupt the voting charts and rolls and again we know that russia and other countries, especially russia, is going to do to do this. we have to again get the states more involved in this. department of homeland security is doing a lot but they can be doing more and we know russia is going to do it. if russia will do it someone else will also try to do it. but do you take something for your brain. with an ingredient originally discovered in jellyfish, prevagen has been shown in clinical trials to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. with tripadvisor, finding your perfect hotel at the lowest price... is as easy as dates, deals, done! simply enter your destination and dates... and see all the hotels for your stay! tripadvisor searches over 200 booking sites... to show you the lowest prices... so you can get the best deal on the right hotel for you. dates, deals, done! tripadvisor. visit tripadvisor.com a surprise. adults spend half of every day connected to media. nielson total audience say adults spend 11 hours every day listening to, watching, reading, interacting with some media on some level on some device. study also shows more than 2/3 of u.s. households have a subscription to a live streaming service. >> sandra: if you're sleeping 6 hours a night only a couple hours you're doing something else. >> bill: you're online more than you sleep in america. >> sandra: guilty. >> bill: do you think it's 11 hours? >> sandra: that's tv. it's reading if you download books on your device and catching up on the news. it's media. >> bill: hulu, hbo. binge watching. they can binge watch "america's newsroom" every day. we would not have a problem with that. we only ask for three hours 9:00 to noon. all there for you. >> sandra: moving on. it has been two weeks now since the iowa college student mollie tibbetts went missing. in their most recent news conference police and f.b.i. in iowa revealing few details about the investigation sounding ever more mystified. >> don't know where mollie is at right now. i am not going to draw any conclusions about the circumstances of her disappearance other than it is not consistent with her past. but i can assure you our focus right now is to find mollie. we need to find mollie so anything you can do or anybody in the community can do to help us do that, that would be very much appreciated. >> sandra: let's bring in former boston police superintendent in chief and managing director. thank you for coming on the program this morning. it is a desperate search on right now. the news conference, we were waiting on that yesterday afternoon and really didn't get a whole lot of new details. but that could mean that they've got some serious leads. what do you make of what you know so far? >> we don't know exactly what happened. we're praying for the family and for her safe return. the fact that law enforcement is not getting out a ton of details could be they have some type of leads they want to run down and keep a close circle around it so as not to alert individuals they might be looking at them or getting on a trail. they will try and find any possible way they can to find out exactly what happened. this could be simply she wanted to have some time away, think about her school and future, her relationship. it could be that someone has taken some criminal action and we've seen these cases before. the smart case, the young girl in new hampshire sometimes held for extended periods of time and reunited with their families. >> sandra: one piece of information we learned is she was about to go away to the dominican republic. we're just finding that out from her family. she lived at this house during the summer with her boyfriend and her boyfriend's brother. her boyfriend's brother was about to get married in the dominican. so they were all about to leave as a family on this vacation. >> and the family knows her best and knows that -- if that's what her plans were, that's a concerning development that she would change and not be in line with those and not be back at the home. that does cause for concern. >> sandra: daniel, we just did this report on the average person is spending 11 hours on some sort of media every day. our digital footprint is pretty big these days. she was said to be wearing a fit bit watch while she was out jogging and she was an avid runner. she had a laptop at home during her homework on. active on social media. her boyfriend said she sent a snapchat that night. we don't know the details of that. but how are authorities using that digital footprint to try to track her down? >> they are going to look to see exactly that. we can geo locate where photographs were taken by people. we can tell by your fit bit where you run every day. we saw it with the military identifying their jogging routes. law enforcement look to that information and find out where she was and see if they can parallel anyone else in the same area around the same time. cell phone tracking and all those things can be looked at. sometimes, however, it takes a while to get that information from the providers. i remember homicide we had in boston of a dominoes driver. they stolen his phone. i wanted to track the phone and the provider was saying it wasn't an imminent need because the murder had occurred. they might be sifting through records and what digital footprint she had that day and overlaps with others that might have been in the area. >> sandra: she was last seen around 7:30 p.m. july 18th. we're about two weeks into the search for her now. we know that there are hundreds -- more than that, i know we're up into the thousands now looking for her and continue to do so, daniel. at this point, based on your experience, she has been missing for two weeks now. does the search continue to ramp up from here? >> the search continues to ramp up. we have to find out exactly what happened to this young lady. hopefully it's returning her to her family. but we need to look at every possibility as to what could have occurred here. the law enforcement authorities are going to be asking for help. you need everyone out there who saw anything no matter how small or irrelevant they think it is to share it. we had thepittsfield jogger. that case wasn't solved for months. a witness saw a car and gave a description after the vehicle. nine months they were able to identify the murderer from a piece of information that wasn't as informative at the time and it filled in the blanks and now we have him in prison. >> sandra: i spoke to her father the other night and desperately asking for anyone who say anything out of the ordinary not even sure if it was tied to mollie but to give authorities that tip. thank you for coming on this morning. >> bill: just need one clue. 29 past. president trump hitting the trail once again, this time in tampa, florida, last night. >> president trump: we need to elect more republicans. we need more votes. and we need to elect ron desantis as your governor. >> bill: so the president hoping that backing will give desantis the boost he needs to win a primary at the end of august. it will not be without a fight. adam putnam is the republican challenging desantis and he is live next. >> turn around and put the knife down. put the knife down. >> sandra: dramatic body camera footage showing just how difficult a job police officers have each and every day. more on this shoot-out with an armed suspect. more of this next. e look like? 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>> we were glad to have the president in florida. he is certainly here a lot with his second home here. i love the fact he was in florida to highlight vocational education, something that is the highest priority of my campaign. something that i've put out a very specific plan on how we put vocational and technical training back into our middle schools, back into our high schools and stop treating our vo-techs and community college like second class citizens. >> sandra: you have repeatedly claimed you are very closely aligned with president trump. why has he thrown his support behind desantis and not you? >> well, i do support president trump's agenda and i'm not surprised. congressman desantis is certainly comfortable with the ways of washington i'm focused on florida. our attorney general and sheriffs. i'm focused on florida issues and challenges. if we're going to make america great again we have to make sure our third largest state is doing our part and under rick scott we had an exceptional economy. i have a plan to make it stronger. there is no doubt in my mind that a lot of people at the trump rally last night were trump/putnam voters. >> sandra: considering both you and ron desantis claim to be closely aligned with the president on his policies and his strategy, where do you differ the most with ron desantis? >> well, i think it's a difference between a washington focus and a florida focus. i know florida best and i have a plan, a specific agenda to put florida families first, florida jobs first and florida's public safety first. if a hurricane is threatening to make landful, you need a governor who doesn't need to find a map to discover where the town is. i'm the candidate for governor who has a vision, a plan, and a knowledge of florida to be able to implement a conservative pro-business agenda to make our state even stronger and even better than it already is. >> sandra: i want to call up the latest real clear politics poll. desantis pulling 39% to you 27.8%. that is more than a 10-point lead at the moment. that is a flip from what we did see before the president threw his support behind desantis. you had been leading in the polls before that happened and before that fox news debate down there. what does this say about president trump's influence in these elections? >> well, it certainly says that the president is well liked in the state of florida. but i also know that floridians will make up their own minds about who florida's governor should be. look, we don't want to import washington dysfunction into the state of florida. the fact that they are just not able to roll up their sleeves and solve the many problems. here in florida we're a model for the nation. we've taken our unemployment rate from double digits to under 4% in the last 7 1/2 years and cut taxes, balanced the budget every year. we've cut our debt rather than lifting the debt ceiling like they've done in washington so i'm focused on putting florida first and that's a very different approach, i think, than what we're seeing in the other candidates who are running for governor here in florida. >> sandra: did you talk to the president while he was in town? >> i did not. >> sandra: he did not mention you by name yesterday and there was a lot of anticipation to see how the president would handle that knowing that you are a big supporter of his. he didn't say anything negative about you while he was there. >> no, he didn't. there is no reason why he should have. because he knows that his agenda is an agenda that i support. cutting taxes, getting that second supreme court justice on our court, continuing to fight hard for american workers and florida farmers when it comes to these trade renegotiations. but he also knows, i believe, that we need strong states pulling their share of the load. and that's what we've seen here with governor rick scott and what we've seen with attorney general pam bondi and that's what my campaign is rooted in. making sure florida is doing the best job that florida can do in spite of some of the dysfunction that goes on in washington here in florida a thousand new people are moving here every day. we roll out the red carpet for small businesses. my campaign is all about our veterans, our small businesses, and making sure that we put career and technical education back into our schools. >> sandra: we had ron desantis on the program yesterday. great to have you on the program this morning. and pam bondi, by the way, the florida a.g. has thrown her support behind you. adam putnam, candidate for governor in florida, thank you. >> thank you. >> bill: 20 minutes before the hour. primary is august 28 there. from l.a. video hard to watch. police officers killing a hostage and the department now releasing dramatic video showing how difficult a job authorities face each and every day. apparently the first death in 13 years. william la jeunesse is live in l.a. what happened? >> good morning, bill. l.a.p.d. started wearing body cams in january and released the video. june 16th police get a 911 call, a homeless man who just stabbed his girlfriend. you be the judge if the shooting is justified. >> put the knife down. turn around and put the knife down. put the knife down. >> the man in red is perez, a large kitchen knife. when he refuses to put it down police fire bean bags. he is unphased by the first round and deflects the next two or three with a folding chair and then grabs a hostage and puts the knife to her throat. according to police and witnesses begins to saw off her head when officers fire hoping to kill him before he kills her. instead both are shot. here is how the scene unfolds. >> drop the knife. drop the knife, drop the knife. >> at this point in time you can see the situation. l.a.p.d. had gone 13 years without killing a hostage or bystander, this was june. in july we had the shooting at trader joe's when police exchanged gunfire and killed the store manager. >> bill: that is so real watching that on camera. what happens now, william? >> as you know in any police shooting there will be an internal investigation on use of force and be evaluated by a review board and the civilian police commission and the d.a. you could have the doj or even the f.b.i. look into a civil rights violation. here is the chief. >> there was much more work remaining and only upon the full review upon the investigation will i be in a position to provide my recommendations on the actions of those involved. >> perez was a gang member just out of prison. he has multiple felony convictions. the victim's family will file a wrongful death claim later today. the coroner will come out with a report saying was she killed by the knife or by the police? that will go into the court case obviously. a lot left to be done in this case. >> bill: william la jeunesse reporting in los angeles today. >> sandra: we have some breaking news out of the white house this morning. right now president trump is firing off against his attorney general yet again on twitter calling on jeff sessions to end the mueller probe. we'll have more on that in a moment. >> bill: the suspect in the murder of border agent brian terry extradited to the u.s. out of mexico. what awaits him in arizona now. >> sandra: democrats ramping up their fight for documents on supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh's time working in the white house. former congressman jason chaffetz joins us on all these big stories next. >> i will not put the american taxpayers on the hook for a senate democrats fishing expedition. l of once-weekly ozempic®. in a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than seven and maintained it. oh! under seven? 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is this different from what he has done or said before? >> he said similar things before. he has normally called out rod rosenstein in the constitutional line of authority. his direct report there is the attorney general. so to do it via twitter as opposed to picking up the phone is different. i do think that senators grassley and bob goodlatte, the chairman of the judiciary committee and house and senate should call up bob mueller and rod rosenstein and explain the conflicts of interest. the president is right on the conflicts of interest but congress needs to do that, not the president. >> bill: the president has a problem with the a.g. he can fire him, right? can jeff sessions fire rosenstein? what sort of authority does sessions have over this mueller probe now? >> well, he has the authority. he should have never recused himself in the first place. the real work is going on behind the scenes, though, with michael horowitz the inspector general looking into these things. jeff sessions, i can't figure out what he does all day. he doesn't really do anything as best i can tell. the inspector general is diving into this. >> bill: another tweet. paul manafort worked for ronald reagan, bob dole and many other highly prominent and respected political leaders. he worked for me for a very short time. why didn't the government tell me he was under investigation. the old charges have nothing to do with collusion. he is trying to clarify what the manafort trial is all about? >> he is being factual there. manafort has a history there. i used to say that hey, it's not the government's responsibility to tell a candidate. the more i've thought it through we protect presidential candidates and give them secret service protection, we give them c.i.a. briefings. if somebody is under investigation i think they have an obligation to tell that candidate. >> bill: we'll see where this goes. another topic for you. what will happen with brett kavanaugh? chuck schumer is looking for a million pages of documents. they're saying that this is the way it works with kagen and invoking the kagen rule. where does it grow? >> great news for kavanaugh. he sat on the bench for a long time. plenty of writings to look at. the democrats have nothing. they lose the moral high ground. they wouldn't even meet with him. to say we need to see more documentation at the same time you are saying we don't need to bother to meet with you, i think they lost that moral high ground. i think there is a differentiation between some of the political time where president bush could claim executive privilege. they would have to go document by document as opposed to his time as an attorney and sitting on the bench. shouldn't say as attorney but time sitting on the bench. a staff secretary a political role. the time on the bench is fair game. >> bill: brett kavanaugh, does he go through before october 1? >> oh yeah. i do. it's all in the control of the republicans. i think senator grassley will negotiate that way through as mitch mcconnell will and orrin hatch. they know how to do this and they'll get it done. >> bill: mexico extraditeing the accused begunman in the fast and furious matter. >> sandra: fire crews trying to contain the flames of monster wildfires on the west coast. what they're facing today. plus apple within striking distance of hitting one trillion dollars in market value. pennies away. money man charles payne will be here. ♪ >> sandra: fox news alert on the wildfires in california. officials now saying the carr fire, one of the most destructive happening in the state, was started when a vehicle broke down and burst into flames. lauren blanch art is live in redding. >> we're along highway 299 where the car broke down. since then the carr fire has destroyed more than 113,000 acres of land and even now the fire is only 30% contained. more than 4,000 firefighters are working to get this fire under control and it has destroyed close to 1,000 homes. it has forced tens of thousands of people from those houses. >> it wiped out our house, it wiped out our next door neighbor's home. we were in the middle. the home on one side is still standing, the home on the other side is like ours, just pretty much rubble. >> the tricky part now is the steep terrain you can see here. firefighters have to go through this as they create containment lines and trying to get rid of a lot of dry brush and catch the spot fires. >> sandra: what a look there. any relief for these crews as they continue to work tirelessly? what's the weather look like? >> well, today it will stay hot and dry but the forecast is good news tomorrow and friday saying cooler temperatures may be on the way. the ferguson fire is another one burning north of here near yosemite national park has forced the park to close until sunday turning away tourists and shutting down summer camps for kids because the air is so bad. >> we couldn't risk it. it was a no-brainer once we knew the health department said the air quality wants safe for kids. >> the town of redding is handing out free facemasks to anyone. it is dangerous for kids. you can see in the distance how hazy it is. this stuff is not safe to breathe. officials are saying if you do not have to be outside in this, don't go out there. sandra. >> sandra: lauren on the ground in redding, california. what a scene there. >> bill: president trump classic campaign mode talking about the economy, democrats, immigration, mid-terms. we'll play the highlights and newt gingrich is our headliner moments away. come on back. a heart valve pro. so if there's a better treatment than warfarin, i'm up for that. eliquis. eliquis is proven to reduce stroke risk better than warfarin. plus has significantly less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis is fda-approved and has both. so what's next? 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and if they do, they're paying a 25% tariff or tax. so you know what i say to that? dump all you want. i hope you dump a lot. now thanks to our tariffs our steelworkers are back on the job, american steel mills are back open for business. >> and just this morning a white house official confirmed to fox news that a second round, a new round of tariffs against china punishing china is now under consideration at the white house. this would be another 25% tariff on top of the 25% tariff already in effect. it would target $200 billion worth of chinese imports, food, machine wry inputs and china is already threatening counter measures. the president touted the rosie employment picture for minority groups in this country and on the subject of minority groups today at the white house he will be meeting with a group of african-american pastors to talk about prison reform and make no mistake. there is an underlying political opponent. he sees that african-americans -- he wants to lure african-americans away from a party that he believes has taken them for granted, the democratic party. >> bill: thank you, doug mcelway from the north lawn. >> sandra: what a night that was. let's bring in newt gingrich former house speaker and fox news contributor. welcome back. well, what did you think of the president last night? >> look, i think he is extraordinarily excited. he is watching his policies work. and i think that's something that is very hard for the washington establishment to come to grips with. the fact is, you saw job numbers this morning. dramatically better than projected. we now have the lowest black unemployment in american history. which is a very positive thing. it's sad that liberals can't relax and say you know, having fewer and fewer people out of work is a good thing. the question that i think is fascinating is if president trump is right and so far he has had a pretty good run at this, this economy will get bigger and stronger going on out for another four, five, six years. if that happens, the impact on politics in america will be tremendous because you will have this huge contrast between food stamps and unemployment under obama and better jobs, higher take home pay, greater opportunities under trump. at some point the gap will be so wide that among asian americans and latino americans and african-americans you will see drift away from a democratic party. you saw last night a president who is enthusiastic and believes his policies are working and i want to make one last point, this is a major fight we'll have to have in the country. the chinese since 1991 have routinely and consistently cheated. they grew as fast as they did, the estimate by the obama director of national intelligence was they were stealing $460 billion a year in intellectual property trump has decided he wants to stop it. the chinese don't want to stop. this will be a real fight and we need to understand that. and i think the people who are against the trump policies need to explain why they favor allowing the chinese to steal. >> bill: you said a lot. i hope we can get to all of it. we'll just chip away a little bit at the whole answer there. i thought this rally for him last night was a home run. the place was going nuts. i can't recall a time during president bush's first term almost two years in where he could have a rally like this or even president obama two years in. he lost 63 terms in the mid-term election in 2010. he is hitting on all these points. i thought immigration was the biggest applause line of the night. he came back to it over and over again. he loves to poke the democrats in the eye. here is a really good example. sound bite two on brett kavanaugh and the obstruction that the president alleges. watch. >> president trump: so far the democrats haven't given us any votes and that's because they will do anything they can to not help the trump agenda. brett kavanaugh, highest education, best grades, best tests, best everything. they thought 15 years ago he was going to be a supreme court judge. look at justice gorsuch, how good is he? not allowing these great people to serve their country is a disgrace. >> bill: that's on kavanaugh and also on the ron desantis thing. ron desantis wants to be the republican governor in florida. he made an ad this week where he has his child he is talking about make america great again and i'm teaching my kids the words how to build the wall and in return for that ad he gets the president to do a rally in florida and mention his name 10 or 15 times. what is the political transaction at work here where the president says if you get on board with my message, i will get on board with you and i will help lead you to victory. what is happening now within the party in this relationship back and forth? >> well, look, it's totally fascinating. i have written two books about it because it is so fascinating. you have in president trump a very strong personality who has a very definite view of the world. it turns out that at least among republicans, his activities are wildly popular. i think 88% of the republicans approve of him, which is a higher number except for the period right after 9/11, a higher number than any president in modern times has had in their own party's approval. so when he goes in and says i like ron desantis, ron jumps 16 points in a week. when he went into georgia for brian kemp, kemp won the primary pulling away. now, the test will be this fall transferring into winning the general election seats. i think washington is so anti-trump and the liberal media is so anti-trump they don't understand what's happening out there. one example. sanctuary cities, 84% of the american people believe sanctuary cities increase crime. 84%. now, every democrat in the senate co-sponsored senator feinstein's open border bill. the democrats are talking themselves out on these radical left agendas which in the "washington post" and "new york times" and cbs news all sounds terrific. but i think when you get down to september and october, we'll discover there is a red wave, not a blue wave and that people will repudiate the kind of radical extremism we're seeing emerge in the democratic party. >> sandra: the big question will be where is the mueller investigation at that point and a big test of the robert mueller probe is day two of the trial for paul manafort, the president's former campaign manager. the president, mr. speaker, just tweeted this out. paul manafort worked for ronald reagan, bob dole, many other respected political leaders and worked for me for a very short time. why didn't government tell me that he was under investigation? these old charges have nothing to do with collusion. a hoax. president just tweeted that a few minutes ago, mr. speaker. >> i think the president has every right to be deeply, deeply frustrated at the failure of his attorney general to exercise leadership. i also note that in the "wall street journal" this morning you had a former special agent of the f.b.i. wrote a devastating piece where he suggests pretty directly that brennan, the head of the cia and radical leftist. brennan may have used the c.i.a. to set up the f.b.i. to start the whole investigation based on a series of things we we now know increasingly are false. imagine you're the president and looking saying let me get this straight, the f.b.i. lied to the fisa court judge, the c.i.a. may have deliberately set up the f.b.i., and i got an attorney general who doesn't have the toughness needed to start cleaning out the snake pit. by the way, notice what the trial is about. they aren't going after manafort for collusion with russia. they're going after him for things like taxes. this exactly what independent counsel do. they can't solve the case they were hired to do. if manafort wins it. there is a good chance he will. mueller will look like a fool and i think the whole country will shrug off everything else that mueller does. >> bill: he has another trial right after that in the d.c. court. jeff sessions, another tweet from 40 minutes ago. this is a terrible situation. attorney general jeff sessions should stop the rigged witch hunt now before it continues to stain our country any further. bob mueller is totally conflicted and 17 angry democrats doing his dirty work are a disgrace to the usa. what authority right now does jeff sessions have if he were so inclined to clean house? could sessions end it today? >> he is the attorney general. he could fire -- >> bill: the president could fire jeff sessions and he is not going to. if he is this upset why not? >> he is not going to fire jeff sessions because the fix is in in washington and he would not be able to get anybody approved. the senate would go crazy. a third of the republicans would go crazy and you would be back in a kind of watergate-like environment. president trump is far better off to endure this publicly be angry but endure it. on the other hand if jeff sessions wanted to as attorney general, he has absolute authority to fire the entire mueller team. and i originally tweeted that i thought mueller was a very respectable guy and i watched him hire these 17 lawyers that trump is talking about, this is a disgraceful, one-sided witch hunt by a bunch of left-wing democrats and it is compounded because we have learned since then about comey, we've learned since then about the number two guy at the f.b.i., we've learned since then about strzok. every time we turn around we learn more things that indicate that the sickness in the justice department and the senior levels of the f.b.i. was very real and i think should scare everybody. you have the power of the police being that corrupt, huge dangers for freedom in america. >> sandra: newt gingrich, thank you for being with us. >> bill: two stories developing on north korea. what could be the remains of 55 american soldiers on their way home today. disturbing new evidence the rogue regime might still be building missiles. cory gardner is coming up. >> sandra: a judge blocks plans to release 3d blueprints in a battle pitting gun control against the first amendment. >> bill: what a case that is. booming economy. strong labor market handing american workers their biggest pay hike in 10 years. charles payne doesn't have so much pain today. he is coming up. when it's too cold for camping, we go camping. when it's too hot to work, we work. too wet to keep going? 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>> there is nuance here. it has been illegal to print the plastic guns since 1988. the nuance here is the manufacturer is claiming he wants to print the blueprints. >> they're order out there to begin with. >> it will go to the supreme court. does it violate the first amendment rights of the individual who wants to print them? >> sandra: a lot of people have a hard time -- it is expensive to consider doing this. the cost of the 3d printers involve range from $5,000 to $600,000. they would also need really high-quality plastic to actually make these. what do you make about the president? bill just read that looking into it and not a definitive answer. >> the president is clear the administration said since 1988 it has been illegal. the president says it doesn't make sense. he is trying to see what tools he has add his disposal to deal with this in the executive branch. it is a judicial issue that needs to be settled. >> bill: alex jones is making news and the parents of sandy hook are some of the messages he is sending out. some families suggesting they've had to move seven different times because they're being harassed. he is looking to dismiss a case against him for defamation. what sort of first amendment right does alex jones have despite whether you agree or disagree with the things that he says? >> he has the right but you have to ask what sort of person is he that would be doing this? what is the matter with this person? it's really hard for me to understand how anyone can be so sick in the head as to behave like this. and to keep going with it year after year. >> sandra: then to see the real-life consequences that result from this. in this case this particular family having to move seven times and receiving death threats. >> to say they should be paying him money for what's happened to him as a result of him spreading the most egregious falsehood of his career and there have been many. facebook took down his account for 30 days, suspended him over what they saw as hate speech coming out of his show. that's not a new thing. alex jones has been this person since the beginning. there are a number of people in prominent positions including the president of the united states of america who have appeared on his program. and i think have a lot to account for. >> bill: what he alleges is that there were actors in town in the classroom. >> i'm not a parent. to suffer through the loss of your child should be the greatest loss that you ever can imagine but -- >> sandra: the mother, i would love to see my son's grave and i don't get to do that. we made the right decision referencing her seventh move. they have to live hundreds of miles from where their 6-year-old is buried. >> alex jones his commentary about sandy hook is appalling. we stand against this kind of hate speech, which is what it is. >> bill: you are an attorney, right? how do you define or draw the line between first amendment right whether you agree with it or not in something that is defined as hate speech and harmful to others? >> i consulted with my harvard law colleague this morning to discuss this case. this case, in order to prosecute someone in the press for defamation like alex jones you have to approve malice. that is very hard to do. justice scalia said the case should be overturned and our framers would be appalled the new first amendment right is written into the constitution for the press. should be overturned. when the president said we need to look into libel laws, that is exactly what he is saying. >> bill: stand by. we aren't done with you yet. you didn't come all this way for nothing. >> sandra: breaking news for you out of the trial of trump's former campaign manager paul manafort. after a first day of fiery opening arguments what we're learning is going down inside that federal courtroom. >> bill: apple, take a bite of this. the company is on the verge of going where no company has dared to go before. how -- can you knock on the door of a trillion dollars loud and clear? 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these old charges have nothing to do with collusion, a hoax. the manafort defense team's strategy was trying to undermine the star witness, rick gates. the manafort attorneys say rick gates is the one who transferred the controversial money into accounts including consulting fees collected from ukrainian political figures and manafort's lawyers say gates was embezzling millions. gates lied to special counsel investigators about it and said he was guilty before agreeing to testify against manafort. they say the star witness can't be trusted. i spoke to kevin downing and asked him how manafort is doing. i asked them what they expected from the mueller team today. they're happy to be on trial. >> sandra: didn't get a look at him entering the courthouse today in the gray van as he entered the building, right? >> we didn't see him outside but he is sitting there in court right now and he was about an hour and a half early, sandra. >> sandra: peter doocy. thank you. >> bill: 10:32. ♪ >> sandra: you're on camera, bill. >> bill: apple is feeling no pain. it's on track to become the first trillion dollar company in the history of capitalism. charles payne host of making money on fox business network. market cap $982 billion. >> we have to get around 203 or 204 and we hit the big t. >> sandra: what does it mean? >> a big milestone. you have this great american company that continues to execute. there are so many things from the earnings that came out last night. what i took away the average selling price on an i-phone $724. they thought it would be $693. by the way, the best paying for the iphone x. americans are paying up. a reflection of the american and global consumer. >> sandra: apple still just has the name recognition and branding. >> the halo effect. we don't talk about how many ipads and macs they sold. music business went up 50%. so confident how they are doing business now they upped the guidance to wall street. the current quarter they say $62 billion in revenue. >> bill: making money through apps and streaming. one of my sisters back in ohio was arguing. bill, i don't want to buy a knew phone. it costs me for $700. i said how many times a day do you look at the phone? if you had a choice to lose your purse or smartphone which would be choose? it is becoming irreplaceable because the amount of reliance we have on them more and more. >> you go to the store and as long as it's in your pocket your transaction will be registered. it is indispensable. apple has competition and why it's so amazing they can continue to execute like this. >> sandra: are you skeptical if that can continue? >> i've had it in my retirement account and i lost track 12 years or so. let me tell you, when iphones were coming out, a true story. i thought about this. i have a niece. when the first iphone was coming out she couldn't wait to buy it. she wasn't working then. if you took this money and bought apple stock he would be better off. so she bought the phone. >> bill: we have a good news story on the economy. baoj now. wages are up first time in 10 years, payrolls are up as well. blew past projections. >> yesterday we had the employment cost index. worker compensation rose at the fastest pace in 10 years. 10 years driven by benefits but also wages. what i loved when you look into it the sector i talk about all the time, natural resources, construction, maintenance, the people that hold our country together. their benefits went up 3.4%. dirty fingernail jobs. their compensation went up 2.8%. phenomenal. this morning what you look at on the screen blew me away. adp comes out with the job support and the government numbers comes out on friday. i look specifically at manufacturing. in the last 19 months 836,000 manufacturing jobs. >> sandra: incredible. >> 19 months prior to that, 26,000. no wonder they thought it couldn't be done and said you need a magic wand and they said it's impossible. 836,000 in 19 months. >> they were getting used to it and we came to a point we were just anticipating it. >> we learned how to appreciate mediocrity. maybe we'll set the bar too high but i think we are now. >> sandra: what is going on with wages. we're seeing better numbers on the economy wages were stagnant. are they moving? >> they're moving but not as fast as they should. two things hurting wages. one, the people who are making the most money as they leave the job force you have younger workers coming in don't make the same amount doing the same kind of jobs and the skills gap is deafening. everything people talk about. i don't care if it's tariffs, federal reserve. the number one impediment to our economy is the unskilled worker. if we can get people skilled up forget about it. a big push last week and yesterday. president trump signed another piece of legislation into law. we're way behind on that. it is not an overnight fix. if you want long-term prosperity we've enjoyed for decades that's the place to do it. >> bill: you're talking affluence going higher. look at that. >> i'll get some in your retirement account. >> sandra: you guys are unbelievable. hemmer is excited about the apple stock. >> bill: an amazing american achievement. >> bill sends me emails every now and then on things. he has amazing insight on investment. >> sandra: charles, how long have we known each other? 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>> it was a brilliant comparison, i thought. analogous to president trump going to the e.u. and saying we want zero tariffs. hopefully we get to zero. if not i think we'll likely see the greatest reduction in tariff and non-tariff barriers in history because of this president willing to take on tariffs that have been there 50 years since world war ii. no president tried to do this. president trump will be known as the ultimate free trade president. >> we'll have to wait and see on that one. it is a long road not only with the e.u. and certainly with china and hopefully we're nicer to canada and mexico, too when it comes to having trade conversations. any time there is legitimate reason to have a conversation about president trump and ronald reagan that doesn't sound completely off base is a point for him going into the mid-terms. the president is rated extremely highly on his management of the economy, 55%. a lot higher than how he is rated on other issues. so if he can continue to hammer these points and there can continue to be op-eds between him and ronald reagan it's to his benefit. i don't know how it all shakes out. people liked ronald reagan. >> sandra: the three of them right in "the new york times" if his goal is more jobs and higher wages america comes out the big winner under the zero tariff scenario and points out that the president's koun ill of economic advisor, american tear of 3 1/2%. china is nearly 10%. the world average is around 10%. speak to the president's bigger strategy here? >> this is the crucial point. i think again if you go back to another relevant historical comparison here you hear the critics of president trump oh, he is starting a trade war. no, it was bill clinton who started the trade war. he started by surrendering to china and president bush and president obama continued that strategy of surrender and the costs. you can count in the millions of jobs lost. in incomes not just stagnating but falling for working americans and there is another social cost, too, the devastation in communities. when a factory closes down it is not just the jobs and go and the economic consequences, the community is destroyed. all these consequences are the result of the trade surrender that started with bill clinton, continued with bush and obama and finally we have a president who is engaging in the trade war in order to win it. i think the benefits you are already starting to see with the confidence that's coming back. >> sandra: you can see from the rally last night he sees he is winning with this. >> he thinks he is winning with a whole host of things. you ever to suffer at first for the net payoff in the end. i wonder how much his voters are willing to suffer through a trade war? >> bill: china's economy is hurting right now. on bended knee. there is an advantage here. let's see whether or not they can pull it off. thank you, come on back. in a moment is facebook cracking down? what changes they hope to make and might affect the way you use it. >> sandra: nba announcing a true game changer. why its new partner could change everything. ♪ without costing $100, $200 or $400. enriched with vitamin b3 complex, for beautiful skin. olay. they won't hike your ratest foover one mistake. see, liberty mutual doesn't hold grudges. for drivers with accident forgiveness liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty ♪ >> bill: facebook cracking down on political influence campaigns. they did a mega deal for the nba and it could change how we bet on it. what is the nba doing? >> $25 million deal with mgm resorts. one decade ago there was a referee who went to jail for betting on nba games. if you could imagine it would be a sports league to form a partnership with a gambling house. mgm resorts will let the nba know if there are strange betting patterns and the nba can catch stuff. do i want to go to mgm resorts to bet on nba games because they'll sometimes have proprietary information. >> bill: that is slippery. didn't we do this story a couple months ago about you as a fan being able to bet on a baseball game as you are sitting there? >> if you're a regular better it's okay. we were discussing this earlier, ncaa is where the concern comes in. the players aren't getting paid. you are placing bets at a game. this is the first of its kind an non-exclusive. the nba could work with other casinos. the money trick -- trickles down to the players. the more you bet on the game the more goes into the pocket books. >> what do you think pete rose is thinking today? >> bill: he thinks the baseballs are juiced. >> facebook says it discovers pages aimed at influencing political opinion. they removed 32 pages from facebook and instagram. one account had 300,000 followers. these foreign actors bought 11,000 dollars worth of ads. the biggest deal here is the pages also created 30 events that people may have actually attended. this has some real world real tangible side effects the same way we saw with the 2016 presidential election. >> what's the goal? causing chaos? >> the goal is exactly that. to create chaos and political division. one of the pages was promoting a counter protest to a white supremacist rally, the other was pushing the abolish ice movement. controversial issues. this is coming up at this hearing today. some lawmakers said it will be one of the issues they'll talk about. facebook says they can't say with total certainty that russia is behind it but there were similar tactics used this time around that were used in 2016. here we go again. we knew it would happen. the f.b.i. and social media companies and the white house all did. >> bill: are you a cubs or white sox fan? >> cubs. >> sandra: you know the answer. >> bill: the poor mets. they gave up 25 runs in one game. >> you know what the new york mets have in common with serena williams? they both suffered their most lopsided lost ever yesterday. serena lost silicon valley. 25-4. first time since 1876. >> sandra: hemmer, i have one question. are you a cubs fan? >> reds fan always. thank you, steve and carley. >> sandra: a solemn journey. the remains of u.s. service members from the korean war heading home 60 years after the gun went silent. mitzi: psoriatic arthritis tries to get in my way? watch me. 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last week in what is considered a goodwill gesture linked to the summit in singapore and undergo dna tests. they're taking part in an emotional ceremony earlier today. >> this is a solemn reminder that our work is not complete until all have been accounted for no matter how long it takes to do so. >> sandra: dan springer is live in honolulu with this. good morning. >> good morning. this is a really big deal to many, many people. partly because it shows how far the united states will go to bring home its servicemen who paid the ultimate sacrifice and also it could provide emotional closure for dozens, if not hundreds, of american families. vice president mike pence will be here in honolulu and speak at what is called an honorable carry ceremony. 55 boxes containing the remains of servicemen killed during the korean war which ended 65 years ago almost to the day. pence's father fought in the war and earned the bronze star. he will be accompanied by two people whose fathers were killed in the war and bodies never found. also at the ceremony is a fighter in korea along with his younger brother. for many years they've been meeting every tuesday for them today will be emotional. >> i know how it feels to have somebody that lost their lives for freedom to come home. i feel it and i feel bad for those who cannot identify to receive their dads or brothers when they come home. >> 36,568 americans were killed in the three-year korean war. of them 7,689 are still missing. most of them believed to be killed in north korea. 208 sets of remains were turned over by north korea in the 1990s and in 2004 a group of americans were allowed in and found many more remains. now the defense p.o.w., m.i.a. accounting agency which is based here in honolulu will spend the next several months and in many cases years trying to identify the remains that they are receiving today. it is a massive undertaking but the forensic people who do it know their job matters. >> one of the few countries in the world that spends this type of effort and time and money to bring closure to our military families and each and every one of those families has been made a promise by the u.s. military to come home. we're the end of that promise. >> the formal ceremony will take place eight hours from now a mile away from where we're standing in front of this building and then the real work will begin to try to identify those remains and give closure to many american families. >> sandra: amazing story. thank you very much from hawaii. >> bill: fox news alert. president trump calling on the a.g. jeff sessions to pull the plug on special counsel bob mueller's russia investigation. former house speaker newt gingrich reacting to the tweet that came out today. last hour in "america's newsroom" the former speaker said this. >> i think president trump is far better off to endure this, publicly be angry and endure it. on the other hand if jeff sessions wanted to as attorney general he has absolute authority to fire the entire mueller team. >> bill: this hour live from the white house john roberts picks it up from there. there is more to comment on this. good morning. >> there certainly is. a lot of people saying a lot of different things. many people seeing this as an instruction on twitter from the president to jeff sessions. let's show you what the president tweeted a short time ago. attorney general jeff sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt now before it continues to stain our country any further. bob mueller is totally conflicted and the 17 angry democrats doing his dirty work are a disgrace to the usa. the important word in the tweet is should. not must or i'm ordering him to. it could be seen as an opinion rather than a directive. sources are telling me not to read too much into it. i talked to rudy giuliani a short time ago before we came on the air and he told me we've been saying for months it is time to bring this inquiry to an end. the president has expressed the same opinion. i'm told this is the president expressing an opinion, nothing more than he has said several times in the past. adam schiff, the ranking member on the house intelligence committee certainly is reading a lot into it tweeting this morning the president of the united states just called on his attorney general to put an end to an investigation in which the president, his family and campaign may be implicated. this is an attempt to obstruct justice. hiding in plain sight. america must never accept it. this tweet is important for a couple of reasons. the president has said on several occasions something very similar. it is clear he is keeping up the drumbeat he believes that sessions made a mistake by recusing himself from the russia investigation and exposing the administration to this. the other important aspect of all this is mueller is scrutinizing the president's tweets as he considers whether there was obstruction of justice in the firing of james comey. other news today on the trade front the president considering harsher punishment for china for what he calls unfair trade policies. the president as he has said in the past has another $200 billion of chinese goods teed up for tariffs. sources tell fox news the president wants to increase the tax to 25%, which would really take a huge bite out of chinese imports. sources say there is a broad realization in the president's economic and trade teams that china is a bad actor when it comes to trade and the u.s. has to play hardball if it wants to get changes. at a rally in tampa last night the president says his strategy is working pointing to the dumping of chinese steel into the united states. >> president trump: they aren't dumping so much anymore, you notice? and if they do, they're paying a 25% tariff or taxes. so you know what i say to that? dump all you want. i hope you dump a lot. now thanks to our tariffs, our steelworkers are back on the job, american steel mills are back open for business. >> but the president did have a lot of people scratching their heads last night when he was talking about the need to show a personal i.d. in order to vote in the mid-term elections. he said this. watch here. >> president trump: time has come for voter i.d. like everything else. voter i.d. if you go out and you want to buy groceries, you need a picture on a card. you need i.d. you go out and you want to buy anything, you need i.d. and you need your picture. >> just a personal observation, when i've been to the grocery store and bought beer or wine they ask me for my i.d. but certainly not when i buy eggs, milk, butter or anything else. the president got good economic news. the employment payroll firm saying 219 jobs were created in july. the number for the jobs report coming out on friday expected to be lower 190,000. the new numbers my portend a larger number when the jobs report comes out on friday. >> bill: i imagine you still get carded. i laugh a lot of times when they do that. thank you, john. >> sandra: we all hope to. for more on all this marc thiessen, fox news contributor and fellow at the american enterprise institute. i'm sure you do as well. >> i get carded all the time, absolutely. not for my oreos but my beer absolutely. >> sandra: got to get to the president's tweets here. this is a changing situation at the moment. tweeting out that the attorney general jeff sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt right now. john roberts pointing out a lot of people are seeing it as an instruction to sessions using the word should. >> depends on the meaning of the word should is. look, this is just another over reaction. trump has been railing against the mueller investigation saying the witch hunt should be shut down forever. this is nothing new. he hasn't instructed the attorney general to do anything. this is not by twitter. this is more of the president's frustration with the mueller probe and the fact is he has an interest as newt gingrich said in seeing this through because he claims he did nothing wrong. if there was no collusion as he says repeatedly, then there will be no evidence of collusion to be found. so he has an interest in seeing this completed and quite frankly completed soon. we need to get past this. >> sandra: he took on paul manafort who is sitting in day two of his trial. he said these old charges have nothing to do with collusion. a hoax. he even says why didn't the government tell me he was under investigation and further distanced himself from man fort saying he only worked for me a short time? >> he is right the charges have nothing to do with russia. though on the other hand, you know, paul manafort was a guy who was known to be working for the pro-russian premier of ukraine and had this shady past and so i think trump showed bad judgment in hiring him in the first place but he also fired paul manafort because of ukraine when it came out there was a news story in the middle of the campaign that a list had been found in a safe in ukraine with all sorts of illegal pay-outs, he let him go. so he actually fired paul manafort when news emerged about his dealings in ukraine. he is right this has nothing to do with him. >> sandra: i want to get sound from newt gingrich who joined us last hour and he was able to respond to this. watch. >> this is a disgraceful, one-sided witch hunt by a bunch of left wing democrats and it is compounded because we have learned since then about comey, we've learned since then about the number two guy at the f.b.i., we've learned since then about strzok. every time we turn around we learn more things that indicate that the sickness in the justice department and the senior levels of the f.b.i. was very real. >> sandra: that was following a tweet from the president this morning saying agent strzok should have recused himself on day one, marc. >> that's true that he should have recused himself and the bias that was uncovered in the i.g. investigation is deeply disturbing but also quite frankly the fact that anybody who meet with russians to try to get dirt on their opponent is disturbing. everybody is waiting to see will michael steele put out information that trump new about the meeting. we already have a smoking gun about a campaign getting dirt from the russians on their opponent, it was hillary clinton. her campaign, the dnc through a cut-out, a lawyer hired fusion gps who hired michael steele who met with russian intelligence to collect dirt and hillary clinton's campaign spokesman actually said that if he had known about it, he would have gone and met with the russians too and nothing wrong with it. how is it okay for hillary clinton to have pro-actively sought dirt from the russians but the trump campaign met at the russian's request? it's all bad. >> sandra: a lot of tweets. marc thiessen, thank you. >> bill: florida last night, pennsylvania tomorrow, ohio on saturday. president trump is hitting the ground running in his push to get republicans reelected in the mid-terms. karl rove will break it all down. we'll look at the map later this hour. >> sandra: new emails peter strzok was asking to keep his security clearance after joining the mueller team last year. why the group behind the report says the request could be the key to proving bias against the trump campaign. >> bill: looking for clues in the disappearance of an iowa college student. part of an exclusive interview with tibettes' boy front but first information from investigators. >> we don't know where mollie is at right now and i'm not going to draw any conclusions about the circumstances of her disappearance other than it is not consistent with her past. supervisor, who agreed to it. so he wanted the authority to issue national security letters, which essentially are secret requests for information that fall short of needing court approval. he also wanted -- he said this was essential, which is very unusual. he wanted the ability to declassify information. he wanted to keep that ability. why on earth would he need that ability in the new position? mr. strzok is not an honest guy in the sense he was removed by mr. mueller over these text messages, mueller didn't tell anyone about it for four months. then he was removed, walked out of the f.b.i. headquarters after the i.g. report showed more anti-trump bias. given what he was doing and the lack of trust we have in what he was doing, we should be asking why was it he needed this essential power to declassify information? issue national security letters? what was he doing for mueller's team? that's the big question. the corruption around strzok has infected the mueller operation, few want to talk about it. mueller needs to be asked directly about it. >> sandra: and we asked that question in the context of all those anti-trump text messages that have now been revealed between peter strzok and his then lover lisa page. so then is this, tom, are you able to conclude from your own research, is this the smoking gun? does this prove bias on the part of the f.b.i. towards the trump campaign? >> he was asking for unusual authority to use for the benefit of mr. mueller. this is why the president is frustrated. he sees peter strzok doing these odd things and being an anti-trum per. no wonder he is calling on jeff sessions to shut the mueller operation down. when you have folks like mueller who was behind the fisa warrants that are so outrageous and having this agenda against trump, getting the special dispensation to take all the authority he had as number two counter intelligence official and move it into the mueller operation for who knows what purposes? we can't trust what he was doing. emails like this lead to more questions. >> sandra: the president tweeted said jeff sessions should stop the mueller witch hunt right now. he also says this, russian collusion with the trump campaign, one of the most successful in history, is a total hoax, the democrats paid for the phony and discredited dossier along with comey, mccabe, strzok and his lover lisa page used to begin the witch hunt, disgraceful. final thoughts from you. >> the president is right on target. there is no evidence of collusion. mueller has issued three indictments about what the russians were doing. none of those indictments reference known collusion with americans. in many ways mueller's job is over. >> bill: federal judge putting a stop to downloadable 3d guns. the fight is not over. we'll explain what's happening on that front? the deadly fire in california is getting bigger by the day and the flames already destroying 1,000 homes. we're live from the scene in moments coming up here. >> tech: at safelite autoglass, we really pride ourselves on making it easy for you to get your windshield fixed. >> teacher: let's turn in your science papers. >> tech vo: this teacher always puts her students first. >> student: i did mine on volcanoes. >> teacher: you did?! oh, i can't wait to read it. >> tech 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these old charges have nothing to do with collusion. a hoax. so far this morning the two witnesses have been a political consultant who did work with paul manafort in the ukraine and the agent present when the f.b.i. showed up at paul manafort's house. he said they knocked on the door and used the key to enter the manafort residence for a raid when nobody answered. the f.b.i. will not say where the f.b.i. got the key. sandra. >> sandra: all right. peter doocy, thank you. >> bill: another alert. a long journey home. the remains from what is believed to be dozens of u.s. soldiers from the korean war arriving in hawaii. positive outcome from the singapore summit but troubling news, two. evidence that kim jong-un continues to work on a missile program. the state department still optimistic that kim will keep his word. >> what we're going on is the commitments that chairman kim made to our president. the commitment to denuclearize. >> bill: cory gardner sits on the foreign relations committee. thank you for coming back to "america's newsroom." one dog tag, 55 sets of soldier remains. we wait until we can confirm this ultimately, right? >> you're right. it's great the honored remains are on their way back to the united states. thousands of americans are praying they may find out a lost or loved one is part of the ceremony today. this will take a long time. >> bill: the fact that mike pence flew to hawaii, what does that suggest to you? >> as a son of a korean war veteran it is important to not just the president but millions of americans who served overseas, whether the korean war, whether more recent conflicts. this country would go to the trouble and expense to make sure we leave no one behind. that's what you are seeing in the effort today and why it's important. it will take time. we'll have to figure out what it is and who we are able to find and detect but this is a good step. >> bill: a big decision to send him. >> it is. >> bill: some of the remains that came back before were not human remains. >> it will be a long process. >> bill: it really is a sense of trust we're offering toward chairman kim. last down in tampa you may have heard this comment from the president in the rally on north korea. >> president trump: we have our hostages back. [applause] there has been no nuclear testing. [applause] there has been no missiles or rockets flying beautifully over japan. [applause] i think our relationship is very good with chairman kim. >> it appears the level of tension we had a year ago has settled down a little bit but reports of continued missile testing. what do you have on that for us? >> i think it remains cautiously optimistic is what it means for us. you have a north korea who said they would work toward denuclearization. we have to push them on that. they've separated denuclearization from building advancements at their missile facilities. they have not tested a missile in over 200 some days. that's a good step. that's why we have to continue this doctrine of maximum pressure. we won't let up and we'll sanctions north koreans violating u.n. or u.s. sanctions and pressure china to do more and anybody who violates it will be subject to u.s. law and u.n. security kol so*l aoutions. we are in a better place we were but a long way to go. >> bill: i think you're right about that. who do you think makes the next move then? >> i think we'll have to continue the conversation about what verification means, what the transparency to look into the nuclear program means, how we have some kind of accountability of what they have and what they don't have. this is going to be continued steps between the u.s., negotiators and north korean negotiators how to get a better understanding of their nuclear program and the denuclearization steps will begin with concrete and verifiable measures. >> bill: come on back. senator cory gardner from colorado. >> sandra: a lot of talk about this. a federal judge temporarily blocking the release of blueprints for 3d printed guns. a texas company aiming to start offering downloads today. several states pushing for a restraining order. gillian turner is live in washington with the story. >> at midnight last night courts in new york, new jersey and washington state barred cody wilson and his company from uploading instructions for making 3d printable guns online. the ruling judge of the western district said there is a possibility of irrep able arm. authorities are citing concerns about public safety. >> if it fires once, it fires once too many. it is an undetectable weapon to get into an airport. a crime scene for no way for officers or deputies to investigate it further. >> the company tried to publish its instructions in 2013 but shut down by the obama administration state department. they reached a settlement with president trump's state department in june that allowed them to start publishing today, august 1. a decision many critics disagreed with and sought to pin on president trump directly. >> he has a chance to issue an executive order to just put an end to it. to tell his own administration to reverse position. he has not done it yet. >> he is the president. he can tell his administration what to do. it's in his hands. >> the white house insisting today the safety and security of all americans is the president's highest responsibility and priority. deputy press secretary hogan gidley pointing out the administration remains committed to a 20-year-old law that makes it illegal to own or make plastic guns of any kind including those made on a 3d printer. >> bill: the president is making a push in the buckeye state. he is getting involved in a congressional special election that will happen on tuesday. are some in the republican party starting to get worried? 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>> sure they should be. this district is an open seat and republicans have found themselves in close races in comfortablely red territory for the last year and a half. they've won the races, held onto the seats that were vacated by people joining the trump administration, but in this race they have to be careful. the democrats have nominated a pretty good candidate who is young and attractive and moderately liberal, not far out left wing. and he ran until recently a very smart campaign. he started off by saying we need new leadership in the democratic party. i don't support nancy pelosi. he sounded like a moderate democrat who was appealing to the suburban voters in this district in delaware county in particular, a big suburban county north of columbus trying to peel away republicans who might have been concerned about donald trump's behavior. but he made a big mistake in the last couple weeks. he got himself interviewed by chris matthews and matthews drilled him about his lack of support for nancy pelosi and he finally admitted he would support whatever democrats the democrats came up with for speaker and that sounds like nancy pelosi. >> sandra: interesting. the president is going to make his way there this weekend. what impact will he have in that state? >> well, it's interesting. the troy balderson the republican whom i met when i spoke earlier this year at the delaware county reagan/lick -- lincoln dinner. an interesting guy. he has donald trump coming in this week and he is running a television ad featuring the endorsement of his candidacy by john case -- kasich who is a never trum per. he wants the president to rev up the troops but the suburbanites that were suspect about the president. the president won by 11 points but 52% of the vote. a high third party vote with suburban white well-educated soft republicans saying i can't vote for the president and i can't vote for hillary. i'm giving my vote to a third party candidate. >> sandra: newt gingrich was our headliner last hour and weighed in on the impact the president is having in close races including the one with ron desantis. >> when he goes in and says he likes ron desantis ron jumps 16 points in a week. when he went into georgia for kemp he won the primary pulling away. now, the test will be this fall transferring that into winning the general election seats. i think washington is so anti-trump and the liberal media is so anti-trump they don't understand what's happening out there. >> sandra: it was remarkable the turnaround in the state of florida. >> and in georgia as well. again, these are primaries. there is a difference between. if you've got a popular president who is popular inside his party that he is able to endorse somebody and carry them across the line. donald trump has that power in spades here. he is the power plant when he endorses somebody. in a general election he has to be careful about it. he is treading in the 12th district into territory where his popularity is great in the rural counties, not so good in the big suburban county and that's the weakness the democrats are trying to exploit with their candidate danny o'connor. >> sandra: the president trying to energy republicans to get out and vote this november. what do you expect to see on the part of democrats less than 100 days out from election day as far as strategy is concerned? >> well, they are conflicted because their party is being disrupted. you have the -- and then you have democrat like danny o'connor saying i have to win by getting votes for people who are republicans or republican leaning and i can't sound like a left wing lunatic. they're conflicted. we see it in the discussion about nancy pelosi who is toxic. their candidate did well in the 12th by saying i want new leadership. he has returned to that theme in his closing ad. i want new leadership. washington is broken. republicans and democrats need to work together. he may have damaged himself maybe fatally by that interview with chris matthews. it is resonating across the district. he says one thing on the stump and another thing on national tv. >> sandra: what a night last night for the president that was. >> wow, wow. >> sandra: all right. karl rove, great to see you. >> thank you. >> bill: "outnumbered" is coming up next. a quick preview. hello, ladies. >> the big fallout from facebook's announcement finding new attempts to medal in our upcoming election using sinister tactics. a lot of finger pointing going on from both sides of the political aisle. and big questions whether we can eliminate that cyber threat and have full faith in our democratic process. >> democrats making a full-court press to block or delay the nomination of the president's supreme court nominee. whether it will work or backfire when it comes to the mid-terms. >> so much conversation coming up with our "outnumbered" guest in the center seat. sometimes it's bill hemmer. >> it's not today, somebody else. >> bill: see you in a couple minutes. an exclusive interview with the father of mollie tibbetts as the search for the 20-year-old ohio student enters its third week. >> just come home. we're looking. we'll find you. just -- she is a brave girl. she will be fine. standard of craftsmanship, you need a higher standard of craftsman. see for yourself at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. when did you see the sign? 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>> mollie's father said she was always on her iphone and very unusual she has been out of contact. the iphone is missing. she was an avid runner and used her fit bit. investigators will try to get as much information as possible from these devices. authorities say getting all that information from the providers like apple and fit bit could take time and something we've seen in previous investigations, bill. >> sandra: matt finish on the story out of chicago. >> sandra: the white house slamming facebook after it uncovers a coordinated political influence campaign trying to influence our elections. more at the top on "outnumbered." let's take a look at some numbers: 4 out of 5 people who have a stroke, their first symptom... is a stroke. 80 percent of all strokes and heart disease? preventable. and 149 dollars is all it takes to get screened and help take control of your health. we're life line screening... and if you're over 50... call this number, to schedule an appointment... for five painless screenings that go beyond regular check-ups. we use ultrasound technology to literally look inside your arteries... for plaque which builds up as you age- and increases your risk for stroke and cardiovascular disease. and by getting them through this package, you're saving over 50%. so call today and consider these numbers: for just $149 you'll receive five screenings that could reveal what your body isn't telling you. i'm gonna tell you that was the best $150 i ever spent in my life. life line screening. the power of prevention. call now tow to learn more. >> sandra: get excited. gear from the galaxy far, far away is hitting the auction block. hans solo jacket expected to fetch $1 million next month as part of a collection of the rare film memorabilia that includes the lightsabers and the storm trooper helmets. the auction taking place in london, september 20. i take this very seriously, as i know many do. so i made sure not to -- >> bill: i think they will get $1 million for that. >> sandra: yeah. i do, i do. no question. >> bill: what is apple doing? 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and every night to the show that is the sworn enemy of of lying, pomposity, smugness and group think. have a great night tonight. sean hannity is next. >> sean: great show. good to sigh. hang. fix your button. all right. [laughing]. welcome to "hannity." busy news night. zero evidence of trump and russian collusion, 442 days into the mueller and partisan witch hunt. the corrupt media is searching for a new crisis every second of every day. focusing on their favorite topic themselves. and the anti-trump fake journalist at cnn is so openly concerned that the president's rhetoric with endanger members. media. but sarah sanders decimated this person. that in a minute. we will help remind the anti-trump fake news cnn network why so many americans chant at you that you suck. the president's poll numbers are going higher and higher. that comes as the administration is combating russia election meddling something some obama failed to do. he said this can't happen in this country. trump needs to focus on getting voters and stop whining. the president wrapped up a rally in pennsylvania. we will have the details day 3 of the paul manafort trial of the century. the 2005 tax case. buckle up. Commentary, newsmaker interviews and panel discussions. -- too hitler before it was cool. that's the "new york times." why would be the american people trust any organization that hired that person. trump tweet ed. they asked my daughter ivanka if the press is the enemy of the people? she said no. the approximately -- president calling them out for the lies they tell. when a network is feeding lies and misinformation every second of every minute of every day, year after year, they are right to call them out. one news network is so blinded by this anti-trump derangement rage they have, they don't even remember how destructive and how aggressive and insane and pathological their own rhetoric was even before day 1 of the trump presidency. we have the videotape to remind you. take a look. >> what he's done is create a lot of hatred between groups in this country after a half century of us trying to bring people together. >> the talking heads are missing something when they pin it all on the economy. how about racial anxiety? >> there are death threats are an example of how overheated this is and the fire bombing of a gop office. we need to have the fire come down. unfortunately donald trump is raising the. it. >> one thing that donald trump could do now that might calm some people. weer track for a tragedy. i am the first press secretary in the history of the united states who required secret service protection. the media is ratcheting up the verbal assault against the president and everyone in this administration. the medias has a role to play for the discourse in this country. >> sean: checkmate sarah sanders. harassment happens every day. there are a lot of nuts out. there i know personally. i have had numerous death threats and white powered mailed to my office. everybody has a right to freedom of speech but saying you are a liar and calling out fake news is only words. nobody is supporting any violence. don't make accusations that are untrue. many in the media they are too happy to play down violence that have been perpetrated against i want you to argue with them and get in their face. >> sean: sean hannity goes high and they go low. tear me up? get in their face? wow! all of the out rage is concocted by the fake news media. hell bent to wake up every day to malign the president. and despite all of this the president is polling better than ever before. a poll out today. the president's approval rating is a solid 50% which is 5 points higher than obama during the same time frame. this is huge news with the mid-terms around the corner. earlier tonight during his rally in pennsylvania, the president and the biassed press, he took them on and so much more. take a look. >> we are doing better in all of these states than we did on election night. >> [cheers and applause]. >> much better. despite only negative publicity and the negative stories from the fakers back there. what happened to fair press? what happened to honest reporting? i was asked to have tea with the queen who was incredible. i was 15 minutes and waiting with my wife. it's the queen. we can wait. we go up and we have tea. it was supposed to last for 15 minutes. it lasted for like an hour because we got along! we got along. here was the story by the fibs. -- fake news. the president was 15 minutes late for the queen. >> [booing]. >> and then here's the rest of the story. no, here's the rest. the rest of the story. they said i was late. i was actually early. number 2, the meeting was schedule for 15 minutes and it lasted for almost an hour. the president overstays. but they can make anything bad. because they are the fake news, disgusting news. >> [cheers and applause]. >> sean: the president addressed immigration. a shout out to rush limbaugh and yours truly. i was shocked. take a look. >> we are fighting a war on drugs. they are bringing in drugs. they are bringing lots of bad people. we are getting the hell -- we are stopping it. we are going to be taking tough actions. i don't know if it's before or after the election. a lot of republicans say -- and they are good. we need more republicans. they are friends of mine. they say, president -- and some are tough guys. they said, sir, we are better off if we wait until after. i say it's better before. let's do it before. sir, we are better off. you know who thinks it should be before? rush limbaugh thinks it should be before the election. >> [cheers and applause]. >> you know who else? sean hannity and a lot of them. >> [cheers and applause]. >> a lot of them. >> [cheers and applause]. >> great people. >> sean: do it before. 96 days away. this is real. the single most important mid-term election in our lifetime. look at your screen. that's their agenda. take a look. they want to impeach in president. don't say it. they want their chrism -- crumbs back and block the supreme court nominee and end the investigations into the corrupt deep state. it's only been 18 months. obama gave us 13 million more americans on food stamps and lowest labor participation since the '70s and worst recovery since the '40s. accumulated more debt than ever ever president combined. tries to bribe iran with 150-billion dollars in cash, and russia was left unchecked. nobody can affect our elections. president trump needs to stop spining. -- whining want many in the media today are obsessing about russia and russia. the trump administration has been 10 times stronger than anything obama did. after 8 years of ignoring the hostile regime of russia, and the bad actor putin, this president is taking election meddling seriously. look at the presser from earlier today. >> since january 2017, the president has taken action to defend our election systems from meddling and interference. this includes measures to heighten the security of election systems and confront russian and other foreign influence in the united states. >> the nations elections are more resilient today because of the work we are doing. we must continue to ensure our democracy is protected. >> the russians are looking for effort opportunity regardless of party and radaress of whether or not it applies to the elections to continue their efforts to undermine our fundamental values. >> any moment is just a moment before the dial can be turned up one. much like we saw in 16 and 0. -- 2016. with penetration of voter registration data bases. >> sean: the corrupt media is focussed on covering the trial of paul manafort because of a tax issue. not about russia or president trump. it is not about collusion. robert mueller, what is the hell is this? chances are they high. they can get a ham sandwich guilty. that you they are facing tough push back from the judge. the prosecution would not call their star witness. they said they can't prove conspiracy without him and pushed back on the prosecution's criminalization of the fact that the guy is wealthy. it's not a crime to be rich or spend money. we will monitor this trial. ellis said they are putting the screws to manafort so he can sing so they can prosecute or impeach president trump. mueller tried to turn the screws on manafort and nothing. joining us from the trump organization the son of the trump eric trump. sorry, i made you sit through this. every day they lie about your father and twist and turn. they wake up and feign moral outrage. as a son it's hard but you know they are lying. >> the hypocrisy is unlike anything you can imagine. attacking baron and our entire family and spewing garbage on cnn. covering nonsense but not covering the lowest unemployment in history and jobs are coming back to the country. >> sean: got out of iran. jerusalem is the capital of israel and rock man is not firing rockets. >> and little jim acosta gets belittled at a rally. it's really incredible. >> sean: has your family been threat threatened? >> we all had white powered show up at our house. >> sean: they had to quarantine an assistant for 8 hours before that. >> there is no moral outrage about that. let the man have freedom of speech. let him speak to people. when it happens to them. when they are offended by a message, all of a sudden. >> sean: did you see what they said about melania and both of your sisters. >> and the comment on melania which was the most disgusting. what they said about that? nothing. the only person was laura ingraham. and you. no one else in the media did anything. >> sean: she is the loveliest woman. your little brother is a great kid. why does he have to turn on the tv set with a decapitated bloody severed head of your father? that person was employed by cnn at the time. >> no one says anything about that. people chant cnn sucks because of their biassed coverage and everybody starts crying. >> sean: cnn sucks. i try to give them advice. they won't listen. it's like i was watching peter strzok and believes he is a super patriot and he knew better than the american people: we will have stop them and have an insurance policy. we will get to the bottom of that eventually. it's like the media. they never thought he could win. he beat the hillary clinton machine. even with the fix in and the investigation and one against h him. >> now they down play it. my father said if i achieve 3% gdp growth i would love it. now he is at 4.1%. the "new york times" said he will never achieve 3% gdp growth. they don't compliment on 4.1%. >> sean: if he cured cancer >> they would not give him the deal he just struck. >> sean: imagine things are getting better. the democrats and the left wingmedia they are mad because they are proven wrong. >> they should be mad. right now they have nothing to run on. they have no leadership. they have no message. they don't stand for anything. he is doing well by every measure. the only thing they can do: he is a racist, sexist, the same sound bites they used for 3 years that did not work. they stand for what? high taxs? they stand go obamacare and getting rid of ice. brave men and women fighting for the safety of our families and children every day. is that what they are going for? they will lose all day long. >> sean: congrats on the baby. very cute. >> thank you. >> sean: when we come back former speaker of the house newt gingrich and mark levin straight ahead. let's see why people everywhere are upgrading their water filter to zerowater. start with water that has a lot of dissolved solids. pour it through brita's two-stage filter. dissolved solids remain? what if we filter it over and over? 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>> for 5 seconds i want to join you in celebrating rush limbaugh's 30 years who made it possible to do what we do. it's a great honor to call him my friend and what he's done for this country is inicalcuable. >> sean: let's talk about jim acosta and the cry babies calling hus fake news. they have freedom of the press to lie like they do. >> i would say this. a lot has been said about the president calling fake news the enemy of the people. i have a different take on this. why do the press hate the american people? over 65 million people voted for donald trump for president of the united states. i wrote this down. press outlets and reporters and hosts and guests called millions and millions of americans nazis, racists, deranged, deplorable and even worse. how do the press in this country justify calling tens of millions of people outrageous names? we conservatives have watched as the press seeks to destroy trump, palin, bork, reagan and the liz go on. the d.c. press corp is the least professional in my lifetime. they sabotage the president and advance the cause of the rogue prosecutor named mueller. the press needs to take a look at itself. it this won'ts. as long as they put clowns like jim acosta out there who like to talk about themselves and it's impossible to tell a late night comedian from jack tapper and the porn star. this will be the reaction of the american people. >> sean: [laughing]. thank god the american people have choices. we are part of it. it's an honor. i feel blessed to it do this. as i know you do. let me ask you this and put on your attorney's hat. you were the chief of staff for one of the greatest attorney generals ever. why would they ever allow an illegitimate investigation run by mueller and democratic donors when there is no evidence, it's been a witch hunt from day one. look at what they are doing with manafort. >> the attorney general meese at this point would have stepped down. newt gingrich was on to something. much of the power exercised by the deputy attorney general has nothing to do with jeff sessions recusal. he won't be attacked by the media as long as he is quiet. the minute he speaks up, he will be attacked. the manafort trial -- here's what i don't get. if he did all of these things. bank fraud and tax fraud and he did it during the obama administration. who was the fbi director? mueller. mueller was the fbi director. he did nothing about it apparently when he was the fbi director. apparently they didn't know anything. now manafort is the campaign chairman for donald trump and they throw 17 left wing democratic prosecutors at the guy who worked for the special. that's a matter for the u.s. attorney general's office in the eastern district of virginia. that's number 1. now mueller is pushing the other case into the southern district of new york. then at a set up the lieutenant general. then they have fewer lesser people they get for false statements. what the hell do we have the special counsel for? he wants trump. he wants to get trump on obstruction of justice. >> sean: a perjury trap. >> he wants to pull the president in front of a granted jury. mr. mueller, you are not the king of universe. i hope the president's lawyers are listening to me. have a meeting with mr. mueller and tell him you are unconstitutional. what you are doing is unconstitutional. we won't bow to you. this is the office of the president of the united states. you are a rogue prosecutor. get the hell out of my office and make sure the doctor didn't hit you in the ass ass. i will see you in court. that's the beginning and the end of it as far as i am concerned. >> sean: i am watching this thing on manafort. i don't know what paul manafort did in 2005 but i don't think donald trump knew who paul manafort was in 2005. >> well, mueller didn't and he was the fbi director. >> sean: i don't think anybody knew him. they pulled it out of moth balls to put the screws to him to prosecute or impeach trump. in this tax case from 2005, there will be no talk of russia. no talk about the campaign. there will be no talk about his work for donald trump. there will be no talk of collusion. this is just a cheap attempt to literally go after a guy they never would have gone after because they are trying at all costs to get the president. >> so the question is, rod rosenstein who gives a rubber stamp to this and created this by appointing his dear friend in the justice department, mr. purely -- mueller who was best friends with comey. what a disaster. mr. mueller can't hide behind his 17 left wing democratic donor prosecutors. where the hell is congress? 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what do you have to lose? african-americans, so many others. what do you have to lose? you have high crime rates and measurable education. i went through a list of ten. that's what happened. african-american, hispanic, asian. you have to the lowest level of unemployment in the history of our country. how does somebody fight that, right? >> [cheers and applause]. >> sean: the president earlier tonight talking about how unemployments for african-americans, hispanic americans and asian americans are the best. pastor darryl scott who is the ceo of the national diversity coalition. he said this about the president. >> to be honest, this is probably going to be -- this is the most pro-black president we have had in our lifetime. i try to analyze the people i encounter. this president wants to it prove something to our community. our faith based community. the last president didn't feel like he had to. he got a pass. this president, this administration will be more proactive in prison reform than any president in your lifetime. >> sean: he joins us now with an attorney. attorney, the numbers are if. -- in. are they doing better under president trump or under 8 years of obama? >> [laughing]. >> sean: i'm sorry! [laughing]. no, no, i asked you a question. no diversion. is the african-american community and the other minority communities are they doing better under trump or obama? >> sean, historically black colleges are not doing better. >> sean: how about the economy? trump or obama? >> here's the challenge. >> sean: forget the challenge. pastor, when you don't want to answer a question that means i put him in a corner called checkmate? >> i play chess. he can't answer this question. he knows the answer is trump and not obama. pastor scott? >> listen, unemployment is at an all-time low. i lived through 12 different presidents. and contemplating that fact. this president is the only one i am aware, he is focussing and concentrating on making a concerted effort to improve the quality of living for black americans. it's easy for me to say what i said yesterday. i lived through a lot of different presidents. i have never seen any other take a pro-active chance for black americans like this president is doing. >> this president has not appointed black judges. show me the numbers. >> sean: in the obama years when you look at the millions more in poverty, food stamps, out of the labor force. not buying homes. the black and hispanic communities were impacted. now the opposite happened and you can't even say, good job, president trump. it's good for everybody. >> good job, president trump. but we have other issues. i want to see president trump put more black faces in the administration. >> sean: pastor? >> when people asked me why are not more blacks in the administration? were those blacks during the campaign? the blacks that were with him were called uncle tom and sellouts. you had black people told to say away from trump. now you are saying where are the black people? >> he could still appoint black people to his cabinet. there is no reason they should not be represented in u.s. government. it's only right. >> i am working with him. what do you want? >> we need more than one. >> sean: pastor scott let me preach at his church. i did terrible. when we come back more of the president's speech at his rally in pennsylvania. woman: it felt great not having hepatitis c. it's like a load off my shoulders. i was just excited for it to be over. harvoni is a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of chronic hepatitis c. it's been prescribed to more than a quarter million people and is proven to cure up to 99% of patients who have had no prior treatment with 12 weeks. certain patients can be cured with just 8 weeks of harvoni. before starting harvoni your doctor will test to see if you've ever had hepatitis b which may flare up and cause serious liver problems during and after harvoni treatment. tell your doctor if you've ever had hepatitis b, a liver transplant, other liver or kidney problems, hiv or any other medical conditions and about all the medicines you take including herbal supplements. taking amiodarone with harvoni can cause a serious slowing of your heart rate. common side effects of harvoni include tiredness, headache and weakness. ready to let go of hep c? ask your hep c specialist about harvoni.

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A morning show that highlights the latest headlines in news, weather, sports and entertainment, and is known for the cohosts' casual and spontaneous... i will add this we have 200, 700,000 missing but 200 remains of. ainsley: 55 boxes of remains came back not sure how many they belong to. kim jong un came home from that summit and he promised him that he would do this and he did. the president sent out a tweet yesterday thanking him for that pete hegseth is in hawaii with the vice president. pete, we're seeing these coffins, these boxes with the american flag. yesterday they were in south korea with the united nations flag. but it's beautiful to see them with the red, white, and blue, finally back home on american soil, right? >> boy, that's exactly right. a lot of people commented on that. it's great to see them in the red, white, and blue, home where they belong. this was the arrival for the first time back on american soil. a few miles behind us in hanger 19 on air force base hickham, it was an emotional ceremony. the vice president presiding over it military families, korean war veterans. reoffense to the idea of law itself u as a candidate for a.g. i feel it's important to speak out to abolish ice. brian: can you imagine if somebody like this wins? steve: right now she is third place on the democratic side according to a poll taken a week or two ago. she knows about the law. she a law lecturer at boredham university. why a number of democrats are calling for the abolition of ice. she is talking about prosecuting people in ice for breaking the law. unfortunately, there are a number of people who are on the political left who confuse the family separations, which were done by the border patrol with ice. ice had nothing to do with the family separation. ainsley: ice goes in and tries to protect hard working good americans from illegal criminals. she says ice needs to be bliciousd. so much is wrong with ice. immigrants shouldn't be thought of as national security threats. she says ice is cruel and illegal and their behavior is unconstitutional. steve: she wants to prosecute them. brian: unbelievable. i want to you weigh weigh in on that also to get his opinion ron vitiello is with us, ice's acting director. we had the former acting director on us last night with shannon. ainsley: ron is going to be coming up with us on the show. send in your comments. steve: we have a very busy thursday. thank you for joining us. jillian joins us with more headlines. jillian: a number of headlines we are following. a fox news alert. first hand look from inside the plane that crashed and burst into flames in mexico. [screams] [. jillian: passengers screaming as the plane crashed trying to take off in bad weather. all 103 people on board survived including an american priest. >> unbearable, burning sensation when you breathe. it was pretty bad. we didn't lose anyone and that, to me, is a miracle. thank god. jillian: yes, it is. investigators now looking at the black box recorders: the man shot with another officer's gun is out of jail. isaac king shot and killed rookie turley trooper as he responded to a call. in milwaukee thousands say a final goodbye to officer, 17 year veteran of the force shot and killed trying to arrest a suspect. 34 police officers have been killed in the line of duty so far this year. willegendary college football coach urban meyer put on leave by ohi ohio state university. knew about allegations against a assistant and did nothing. that assistant was fired last month. the school is investigating. president trump meeting with a group of inner city pastors at the white house for a round table discussion on prison reform. one pastor praising the president for supporting minorities. >> to be honest this is probably going to be i'm going to say this at the table the pro-black president we have had in our lifetime. this president actually wants to prove something to our community. the last president didn't feel like he had to. jillian: the group also discussing how the low unemployment rate could hip former prisoners get jobs. that's a look at your headline. send it back to you. brian: whatever the president is doing the numbers seem to do a lot he is not talking about it he has to talk about it and see. so programs. steve: jillian, thank you u. jillian: thank you. brian: tsa could end security screenings at 100 smaller airports. is that really a good idea? ainsley: we have been telling you about this official sparkingout rage for kneeling during the pledge of allegiance. one of the veterans who stood up to her is going to join us next. >> you don't kneel and turn your back on that flag. you turned it on half of this town. over the last 24 hours, you finished preparing him for college. in 24 hours, you'll send him off thinking you've done everything for his well-being. but meningitis b progresses quickly and can be fatal, sometimes within 24 hours. while meningitis b is uncommon, about 1 in 10 infected will die. like millions of others, your teen may not be vaccinated against meningitis b. meningitis b strikes quickly. be quick to talk to your teen's doctor about a meningitis b vaccine. is this at&t innovations? yeah, wow..this must be for one of our new unlimited wireless plans. it comes with a ton of entertainment options. great, can you sign for this? yeah. hey, uh.. what's in that one? that's a shark. new and only with at&t, you can get unlimited data, 30+ channels of live tv, and your choice of things like hbo or amazon music. more for your thing. that's our thing. visit att dot com. -we're in a small room. what?! -welcome. -[ gasps ] a bigger room?! -how many of you use car insurance? -oh. -well, what if i showed you this? -[ laughing ] ho-ho-ho! -wow. -it's a computer. -we compare rates to help you get the price and coverage that's right for you. -that's amazing! the only thing that would make this better is if my mom were here. what?! an unexpected ending! - anncr: as you grow older, i-your brain naturally. begins to change which may cause trouble with recall. - learning from him is great... when i can keep up! - anncr: thankfully, prevagen helps your brain and improves memory. - dad's got all the answers. - anncr: prevagen is now the number-one-selling brain health supplement in drug stores nationwide. - she outsmarts me every single time. - checkmate! you wanna play again? - anncr: prevagen. healthier brain. better life. then she did it again on monday. this time she was booed by many in attendance, including a vietnam war veteran who slammed her for disrespecting our flag. listen. >> it says on my shirt if you don't like the flag, i will help you pack your bag and get the heck out of here. [applause] turn your back on that flag, you turned it on half of this town. >> that vietnam war veteran calvin bonnell joins us now. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for inviting me. ainsley: you are welcome. you stood up and made your point. you seemed very upset with what she did. why? >> because, to me, the flag is supposed to represent the united states. and when somebody kneels down and does not respect it, it goes a along with the national anthem. you're supposed to stand up and present yourself to that situation as well as the flag. when i first went in to elementary school, it was the first thing they taught us was respect for the flag and what it stood for. it just doesn't stand for the freedom but it also stands for all the gentlemen, ladies in the service that have been killed in the line of duty and when somebody kneels down in front of it for me, it's a very disrespectful thing because you should stand up and these people as well as that flag of the united states. ainsley: melissa schlag was caught on tape saying your town was racist and fashionist and went on radio interview and apologized for making it seem like all of haddam was racist and fascists couldn't be further from the truth. strong veins of racism and fascism run deep in haddam. do you believe that? >> i believe so. i'm out at -- she said it she had her freedom of speech. she has her freedom of religion because of that flag and what that flag stood for with the veterans fighting for her natural rights and the constitution. ainsley: do you agree with her that your town is fascist and racist? >> i really do not know on that point because i do not live in haddam. i live in meridam, connecticut. ainsley: you came over to make your voice heard because it was important to you? >> right. ainsley: why is that important to you? >> with her situation kneeling. she has done it before. she has made statements before. and i just figure it was about time some other people, besides her town people, let them know how they felt on it. we had about 75 people line up and give her the royal run. ainsley: do you think she should resign? >> i think so. because when she does something like that, she is not representing the constituents of that town in the right way. ainsley: it's hard to see her kneel, in my opinion, when we have the remains of these individuals who made the ultimate sacrifice come back. hear from a young girl who lost her dad when he was 4 years old he was never there for her wedding and graduation and that kind of thing. many people have made sacrifices for the red, white, and blue. thank you for what you have done. >> thank you for having me. i appreciate it very much for this time. ainsley: thank you. what happened to that missing iowa student. the search for mollie tibbets is intensifying this morning. mollie's boyfriend joins us for his first live tv interview along with her father coming up next. filibuster they work togetherf doing important stuff. the hitch? like you, your cells get hungry. feed them... with centrum micronutrients. restoring your awesome, daily. centrum. feed your cells. new laptop with 24/7 tech support. yep, thanks guys. i think he might need some support. yes start them off right. with the school supplies they need at low prices all summer long. save $200 on this dell laptop at office depot officemax. and the wolf huffed and puffed... like you do sometimes, grandpa? well, when you have copd, it can be hard to breathe. so my doctor said... symbicort can help you breathe better. starting within 5 minutes. it doesn't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. doctor: symbicort helps provide significant improvement of your lung function. symbicort is for copd, including chronic bronchitis and emphysema. it should not be taken more than twice a day. it may increase your risk of lung infections, osteoporosis, and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. grandpa: symbicort could mean a day with better breathing. watch out, piggy! 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>> that it's a safe little community. you wouldn't expect anything like this to happen. everybody was blindsided the fact that something like this did happen in our small little town. steve: absolutely i grew up in iowa and kansas. growing up we never locked our doors either. i know that folks are locking their doors now. robb, later today you are going to have a press conference with mollie's mother. tell us a little bit about that. >> the press conference is to announce the established reward for the tip hotline through crime stoppers. and we will be giving information about where people can donate to that. we're hoping that that will provide an enticement to people to come forward for information. steve: that's right. dalton, the night she went missing, where were you? >> in dubuque, iowa, about 100 miles away. steve: because you have a construction job out there, right? >> yeah. we were working on a bridge up in dubuque. >> and she was watching your dog at the house. and when was the last you talked to her? >> tuesday morning before i left to say goodbye. steve: since then, i know it's been driving you crazy and her father crazy and the entire family crazy trying to put pieces together. dalton, do you have any idea what may have happened? >> no, i'm kind of just leaving all the investigating to the fbi and all the authorities that are on the case. steve: do you have a theory? >> not really. steve: okay. i know this week you and mollie were supposed to be in the dominican republic. tell us what you were planning to do. >> my brother was doing a destination wedding down there and we were going to go down today actually for his wedding. steve: but that was canceled given what was happened with mollie. rob, let's talk a little bit about one of the reasons have you come on television so frequently in the last week or so is because you feel that there is somebody out there, whether it's in brooklyn, iowa or somebody who is just passing through that saw mollie that night and knows something. >> whether they saw mollie or whether they saw something that was out of place that seems insignificant and they are reluctant to come forward with that information because they don't want to clog up the investigation, there is no information too insignificant or if they're suspicious about a loved one or a friend that they are reluctant to turn into the authorities for something that they suspect, if they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear. and so turn that information over to the authorities and let them sort out what's right and what's wrong. steve: so far, rob, how many tips have they received? >> we don't know. we don't know anything about that. we rely on our partners in law enforcement to handle the search and the investigation. they share virtually no information with us, which is exactly the way we want it. and the way they want it. we rely on them for that they rely on us to help keep mollie's story in the public conscious. so then we rely on our media partners, you. and fox has been absolutely terrific. we can't be more grateful to you for helping us and driving information to that tip line. steve: well, you said that you -- they, the police, do not keep you updated on all the tips that are coming in. there was one story in the kansas city area yesterday that apparently at a kansas city area truck stop, i think in the last week or two, out by interstate 35, somebody thought they saw her in the cab of a semitrailer truck. but they have done some investigating. they have looked at the video. it doesn't look as if there is anything to that lead. but there are a lot of leads it must make you feel good, dalton, to know there are so many people out there watching right now who are trying to find mollie. >> yeah, it's pretty heart-warming to know the entire pretty much nation has gotten our backs and they are all putting forth the effort to try to find her. steve: rob, before we leave, what's the last thing you would like to tell everybody watching right now? >> just think. think about what you saw and call the authorities. i really think that's how we are going to get mollie back. i really do. steve: all right. fellows, thank you very much for joining us now live from grinnell, iowa, if anybody has any information about missing mollie tibbets call the sheriff's office at 641-623-5679. i've been making blades here at gillette for 20 years. i bet i'm the first blade maker you've ever met. there's a lot of innovation that goes into making our thinnest longest lasting blades on the market. precision machinery and high-quality materials from around the world. nobody else even comes close. it's about delivering a more comfortable shave every time. invented in boston, made and sold around the world. order now at gilletteondemand.com. gillette. the best a man can get. where we're changing withs? contemporary make-overs. then, use the ultimate power handshake, the upper hander with a double palm grab. who has the upper hand now? start winning today. book now at lq.com. the new united explorer card makes things easy. traveling lighter. taking a shortcut. (woooo) taking a breather. rewarded! learn more at theexplorercard.com moments of taps being played to mark that ceremony of the arrival of u.s. servicemen from the korean war. that is from honolulu. brian: something pete hegseth witnessed firsthand live in honolulu. yesterday he had a chance to sit down with the vice president of the united states after taking, i think, a 12 hour ride with him. am i right, pete? pete: that is exactly right. no more powerful sound for my money than the sound of taps. what an appropriate moment for that, yes. right after the ceremony i had a chance to sit down with the vice president, fresh from his remarks, presiding over a powerful ceremony. we asked him about that ceremony but also a few issues hitting here at home for the president and the vice president. here's a portion of the interview with vice president mike pence yesterday. pete: it isn't lost on me that today we are dropping off caskets instead of dropping bombs right now on that peninsula. where are we in the progress toward that outcome, a great step today that is meaningful. a lot of people will say hey, they are still fueling and creating icbms. where are we in getting to that ultimate goal? >> the only reason we are here today is because very early in our administration president trump took a strong stand and said that we would not tolerate the presence of nuclear weapons and missiles in the possession of north korea that could threaten the united states or our allies. he took unprecedented steps to bring diplomatic and economic pressure to bear. while many worried about that approach, what it did was bring north korea to the negotiating table. and in that historic summit he secured not just the commitment to bring our heroes home, which began today, but also a commitment to achieve the complete diewxz of the korean peninsula. and what i can tell you, pete, is that we are continuing to work very diligentlily. the secretary of state will be in the region again next week. those negotiations and distinctions ardiscussions are n today. we saw this promise kept by north korea as evidence of the progress that we are making and we continue to remain hopeful that that we will achieve the aim that's aeluded the world for decades a nuclear free peninsula and bring our boys home. pete: you believe this is indicative of a process still very much on track. >> we are very hopeful that in today's events there is further evidence that the promises made in singapore by north korea had be kept. pete: i want to turn to home for a second. the president spoke a lot recently about the potential for a shutdown if he doesn't get the funding for the wall. he said in march i will never againly sign a budget that doesn't include funding for the wall. will he truly either before or after the election shut the government down if he doesn't have the wall funded? >> well, i think it is very clear from the campaign forward that president trump has made it clear that a country without borders is not a country. pete: people say he won't do it. he's bluffing. >> well, what i can promise you is that we are working with the congress to make sure that we provide for the common defense. that we fund the government. there is a series of spending bills. but, when it comes to border security, i know president trump is prepared to take a strong stand and demand that this congress respond to the american people, give us the funding to build a wall, to close those loopholes that are driving illegal immigration and human trafficking. support our border security. support organizations and agencies like ice. they are doing an incredible courageous job across the country, and i expect the president is going to take that strong stand before the fall is out. pete: where the economy going where it is, you have been in congress since 2001. have you seen an economy like this before? >> it really is extraordinary. i mean, i will never forget on the campaign trail in 2012016 in september when then candidate donald trump announced that we would have a national goal of 4% g.d.p. growth in the economy and it was rejected by virtually every. pete: pigs are going to fly. >> economists in the country. we have this year nearly 3% growth in the calendar year in first year in office and thanks to the president's leadership and strong partners and republican majorities in congress, here we are the second quarter of this year 4.1% growth. and we think we're just getting started. when you see the tremendous increase in exports in the second quarter. when you see the tremendous increase in business investment. we see wages rising. i really do believe the best is yet to come. it's all a result of the fact that president trump has been working every day to keep his promises to the american people, to cut taxes to roll back regulations. unleash american energy. and it's working, pete. pete: the vice president went out to talk as well about the pastor in turkey still there under house arrest and how they focused on bringing him back from a nato ally and also as we talked about on the program already the lack of coverage in the so-called mainstream media of this ceremony. so important to so many vets to the progress on the korean peninsula keeping promises. yet, unfortunately, so many people not wanting to give credit to president trump or vice president pence for making it happen. so, more from that interview in the 8:00 hour of "fox & friends," guys. steve: that's great, pete. the vice president was very clear that the welcome home ceremonial that we saw yesterday got started with the june summit between our president and kim jong un he said promise kept. he remains hope of that eventually it does lead to de nuking the korean peninsula u. ainsley: yep. pete: that's right. it doesn't happen unless that meeting happens. and it's a good faith step. now they are focused on the real verification of the denuclearization so this is a goods step but more to come. brian: more to come because satellite photos show they have not slowed down at all in missile manufacturing. so, can't deny that thanks, pete. ainsley: thanks, pete. they also slapped sanctions on the individuals that were responsible for arresting pastor brun son. hopefully that will work and we can get him back home to america. hand it over to jillian who has more headlines for us. jillian: good morning to you and to you at home as well. this has a lot of people talking right now. the tsa may be considering eliminating passenger screenings at some airports. according to cnn more than 150 small and medium airports around the country could do away with the scanners in an effort to save $115 million annually. the report does not list these specific airports that could be affected. nearly 4,000 firearms were found in bags at checkpoints across the country in 2017. that's nearly 10 firearms found per day. a woman is accused of intentionally crashing into a car over its trump bumper sticker. political science say chloe wright drove into the car, bent its door and drove away in hyannis, massachusetts. the driver also claims she called him racist when he said he voted for the president. she reportedly pleaded not guilty in court to assault and vandalism charges. cowboys quarterback dak prescott standing by his team's policy to stand for the flag despite backlash on social media. >> i never said i didn't believe in social injustice and things going on. i just said i didn't think the national anthem is the time. two minutes out of our day that we can also be spending just embracing what our country should be. jillian: prescott says he is ready to move past kneeling for the anthem and find a better way for players to protest. brian: that's a leader. ainsley: good for him. you said he is getting backlash? jillian: on both sides. there is backlash all over the place. he is receiving backlash. brian: ezekiel elliott feels the same way. he took it up a notch he says i choose. to say. jillian: good for him. brian: thanks, jillian. we have been telling you about the growing trade battle between u.s. and china. how big is the economic threat to america. ainsley: heart wrenching moment inside a supermarket. the story behind that video right there is going to have you smiling all morning long ♪ ♪ i found my tresiba® reason. now i'm doing more to lower my a1c. i take tresiba® once a day. tresiba® controls blood sugar for 24 hours for powerful a1c reduction. 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[laughter] this is like a tv show it? >> is like a tv show when manafort has apparently bought businesses worth 8,000 bucks. 10,000 bucks and the judge says if it's not from men's wearhouse i don't know anything with it. brian: get to the point in all seriousness. >> i think judges and sometimes juries get a little frustrated when prosecutors try to demonize the defendant before they present any evidence against him. the fact that he bought $10,000 business suits is lavish is not a crime. they have been doing that for three or four days. their theory was this was an ill gotten gain that bypassed the irs and this is what he spent it on. if it's ill gotten gain and bypassed the irs it doesn't matter what he spent it on. they will eventually get to that i think today or tomorrow or certainly by next week. thus far they have presented no evidence of any crime just the manner in which he used this money. ainsley: do you know anything about the jury? >> no. steve: seated quickly. >> yes. i was surprised it was seated quickly. manafort is very well-known. everybody knows the potential connection to the president. the judge said i don't want to hear the word mentioned nut courthouse. it was mentioned once in connection with trump tower not it in connection with with the president himself. steve: one of the guys closely aligned with mr. man forth was rick gates, his number two person. he got a deal from the government to spill his beans. you know what? there he is right there. we might not even call him. that's bad. >> rick gates was paul manafort's business partner for 15 years. and he was the deputy campaign manager for president trump during the summer of 2016, when the meeting happened with the russians. steve: right. man ford has said that that man right there embezzled millions of dollars. >> correct. this shows how the government can use witnesses who flip by providing them with information in secret. by telling this stuff to the grand jury but by not putting him on the witness stand because it may open up a can of worms. this may force manafort's lawyers to put gates on the witness stand if they want to say you are the guy who pulled all these tricks against the irs. brian: judge, do you know what it tells me? it tells me they wanted gates to pressure manafort to flip somehow to get what this judge originally said president trump and he hasn't done it. >> precisely. manafort has basically said through his lawyers you guys have indicted me three times. i got two trials. i have been living in solitary confinement for two months. nothing will break me because i have nothing to give you. that's the message that we're getting this week. brian: wow. >> see where it goes. brian: we didn't have a chance to talk about it where the president got new parameters when it comes to the interview mueller answered him. >> more about that later. steve: judge, thank you. >> you are welcome. ainsley: coming up, more of pete hegseth's exclusive one-on-one interview with the vice president of the united states mike pence. the remains of u.s. service members arrive home from north korea. steve: plus acting ice director vitiello and dana loesch here. two more hours of "fox & friends." we'll be right back book now at choicehotels.com does it look like i'm done?yet? shouldn't you be at work? 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right. steve: who is in those caskets. ainsley: 55 boxes presumed to contain remains of americans. it could make months, it could take a year or two they say. hopefully we will be able to identify who they belong to. brian: the president tweet you had last night about this. says thank you chairman kim jong un for keeping your word and starting the process of sending home the remains of our great and beloved missing fallen. i'm not at all surprised that you took this kind action. also, thank you for your nice letter. i look forward to seeing you soon. steve: soon? wonder what that means? brian: they say he possibly could meet in new york at a u.n. meeting when he does come here this way. but the one thing he has not done is lived up to what promise we thought he made in singapore about dismantling his nuclear program, especially the rapid construction of you will missiles. steve: there is information in intel people accord ing to "the washington post that he is still building the missiles. pete hegseth, who has traveled with the vice president, out to the honolulu area joins us live from honolulu. pete, one of the things that mr. kim and mr. trump worked out was that these remains would be returned and at least in that respect, it was a promise kept. >> very much. so in the interview i did with the vice president i asked him about the detect potentially between what's happening on the ground and the deal made. yesterday powerful and solemn ceremony. a dedication of the commitment to a growing relationship on that peninsula. you know, i was sitting there waiting for the ceremony to start and they played amazing grace and it goes to the line i once was lost but now i'm found. and that certainly was the feeling for military families and korean war veterans and patriots there. what amazing display of respect for those that have given everything for our country 65 years later. here's a portion of my interview with the vice president talking about the powerfulness of that ceremony. >> it was very humbling for me to be there. i spoke to the president shortly after the ceremony, and i told him i'm not sure he has given me a greater honor than to represent him here today to see those 55 flag-draped cases be carried so solemnly in. and not just as the vice president but as the son of a combat veteran from the korean war, it was deeply moving for me. but, it's what great nations do. i couldn't be more proud to be an american today. and also, i couldn't be more proud to be vice president with a president who, when he was sitting down, with the leader of north korea in singapore, to negotiate complete denuclearization of the korean peninsula, he also had our fallen on his heart. and he secured not just a promise to create a pathway for denuclearization and peace, but he also secured a promise to bring our boys home. and today it began. and it was a great honor to be there, pete. pete: also couldn't help but notice that if you were watching television there was only one network, this network, fox news channel, covering that ceremony. other networks choosing to cover other priorities. i asked the vice president what does that say about our nation right now? and he answered this way. >> i think there is a loft people in the so-called mainstream media that would do well to spend a little bit more time traveling across this country and listening to the american people. because, frankly, as i travel, on behalf of this administration, meeting with groups large and small, i sense a great enthusiasm across the country. when what i see people focused on is security at home and abroad. they are focused on jobs and opportunities. they are focused on ensuring that our courts respect the constitution of the united states and all the god-given liberties enshrined there. people see when it comes to president donald trump it really has been a year and a half of promises made and promises kept. pete: i can't hear. brian: we can't hear us. we can hear you. pete: to his point, i couldn't hear for a second there cnn only covered 58 seconds of the ceremony and msnbc zero seconds. i think if you are in tune with the pulse of the american people. patriotism runs deep. they want things like this in their living room. i'm proud of fox news channel for covering it the way they should. ainsley: there are 55 boxes that have come back with the remains and we are not sure who they belong to. have they gone through and tested some of these bones? do we know -- we definitely know they are these soldiers, right? pete: they did a preliminary test in south korea. but the full d.n.a. testing will now be happening right now here in honolulu. they have got a state of the art facility. for some it will take weeks and months. others it could take up to a year. we're not going to know that hopefully we will know some things in the coming weeks. brian: still missing at least 7,000. great gesture let us walk the country with exploration teams in order to go back to the sites from 65 years ago. they would let us do it in the south. they are not going to let us as of now do it in the north. steve: they don't want americans there pete, thank you very much for the live report. >> thank you, guys. steve: we got back on american soil yesterday the 55 cases. and inside one of them, one set of dog tags and apparently that family has been notified. and i was reading one of the reports from asia that said that they also returned some materials, for instance, military hardware, some uniforms, some helmets, some canteens and boots are being returned in those boxes. ainsley: i once was lost and now i'm found. this was the headline for the "new york post" this morning coming home. can you see the caskets draped in red, white, and blue. steve: it was solemn and stirring. we asked you for your comments. mollie emailed us, my eyes filled with tears. and i felt so moved to witness this amazing event. every military family feels a connection and love for the families who lost their loved ones in the korean war. we all rejoice to get them home. brian: remember how bad this was getting. at one point mcart temperature said to truman i just got to drop the atomic bomb on that's the only way to solve. this god bless the military and their families. never forget. ainsley: dee wrote this i wish my dad was alive to see his brothers returning home no. doubt is he rejoicing with them. i wept with tears of sorrow and joy. the vice president's speech was moving. thank you will never be enough. steve: we'll have more of pete's conversation with the vice president coming up. meanwhile, the president of the united states himself called into the rush limbaugh show. rush is celebrating 30 years of his major hit on the radio. ainsley: congratulations, rush. steve: indeed. keep in mind on sunday the president tweeted out he would be willing to shut the government down if he doesn't get the money for the border wall. and then the story was that apparently he sat down last week with mitch and paul and they worked out a deal they would get the funding for the wall after the mid terms. but when the president was on with l. rushbeau yesterday. he made it clear maybe he dual it before the mid terms. >> the other thing is the wall. we started it. it's like pulling teeth. getting these guys to get it done -- and have you no idea how tough i have been. i say hey, if you have a shutdown, you have a shutdown. the shutdown can also take place after the election. i happen to think it's a great political thing because people want border security. brian: talked to scott taylor yesterday on the radio he said by the way we do have 5 billion for the president to continue with the wall. i would like to see confirmation on that. if he has. steve: it passed the committee. brian: 1.6 and really 750 million. doing some substantial work. if he gets 5 billion for the wall. that will keep them busy for a while. steve: that was passed out of committee. still has to be voted on i understand by the full house and, the senate. brian: wouldn't have to waited until after the mid terms. ainsley: they don't have a lot of the time. they have got to get other things. the supreme court. they have to work on that. zephyr teachout is a democrat. she is running for attorney general of new york. and she, like a lot of democrats now, pushing for the abolishment of ice. she is actually taking it a step further. she promises if she is elected to prosecute ice. listen. >> ice was born in xenophobia in the time after 9/11 and has grown up to become a tool of fear and illegality. and as attorney general, i will continue to speak out against ice. i will prosecute ice for their criminal acts. we have stories of consistent abuse within ice. the idea that we could call this law enforcement is a real offense to the idea of law itself. and as a candidate for a.g., i feel like it's really important to speak out to abolish ice. steve: you know she is a law lecturer at fordham university law school. i would be curious what she feels is -- she would prosecute ice over what criminal acts exactly. to my understanding, they are just following the law. if you don't like the law, change the law. that, once again, is where congress comes in and do something. brian: born out of screen phobia, it's called the next 13, 18, 19 hijackers from taking down more planes. ainsley: right. brian: did incredible job with terrorism. doing incredible job getting illegal criminals out of here. it's a tough job like law enforcement. do you love when law enforcement cracks down on somebody you don't know? they were breaking the law to begin with. ainsley: created after 9/11, because of 9/11. we're going to have ronald vitiello the acting ice director. he is going to be live on our show at 7:30 to respond to her. steve: plenty to talk about. 7:11 in new york city. jillian has headlines on the pope. jillian: starting with a fox news alert right now. get you caught up on this. pope francis is changing the church's stance on the death penalty. head of the catholic church now says it should never be allow you had since it attacks human dignity. previously capital punishment was allowed only way of defending human lives against unjust aggressors. the new teaching claims the old policy is outdated and there are other ways to protect society. it is primary day in tennessee. all eyes are on republicans. gubernatorial candidates congresswoman diane black. businessman randy boyd u state representative beth harwell and bill lee are all vying for a spot in the yen election. black is endorsed by the vice president. and overnight former president barack obama announces his midterm picks. he is endorsing 81 candidates. a supermarket employee going viral for this incredible act of kindness, letting a customer with autism help him stock the shelves. jordan taylor was working in baton rouge when he noticed jack ryan watching him refill the coolers. he 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saying that is not the time. he went on to say it's a moment for me at peace. i think about all the great things our country does have even though we do know it's not a good time. ainsley: football brings me so much joy. for two minutes this is not the time to protest. i want to stand by the anthem. by the flag and i want to stand up. i don't want to kneel. he said i respect your opinions, please respect mine. steve: right. his boss jerry jones the guy who owns the cowboys made it very clear last week, i believe. he said look, if you want to play on this team and be a dallas cowboy you have to stand during the anthem with your toes on the line. earlier, one hour ago. ainsley talked to calvin bonniebonnell. he was a vietnam vet in attendance this week when a woman one of the town members haddam connecticut took a knee during the pledge. there she is. ainsley: for a second time. steve: she was being hollered out by a number of people. calvin didn't like what she did. talking about what the flag means to him. >> it just doesn't stand for the freedom but it also stands for all the gentlemen, ladies, in the service that have been killed in the line of duty and when somebody kneels down in front of it for me, it's a very disrespectful thing because you should stand up and praise these people as well as the flag of the united states. brian: that's what jerry jones u the cowboys will stand. players around the league got mad at him. and the nfl told jerry jones stop talking about the anthem. he doesn't listen to the nfl. they have basically been at war the last few years. came in with thunder. he continues to do his own thing. but, that's basically what he has done. and jeff of the eagles, super bowl champion says my players can do whatever they want right now. ainsley: have you all ever been to a funeral where someone was a veteran and they hand the flag to the family? steve: look at that return family yesterday in honolulu. ainsley: with all the red, white, and blue draped over. my grandfathers at both of their funerals our family was handed the flag. those flags are still in our family and we respect them and they mean so much to us because it represents the men and women who have made the ultimate sacrifice for our country and for our freedom. brian: i think the quarterback nailed it it's not that there is no social injustice that needs to be addressed he is saying that is not the time. ainsley: not the time. steve: see what happens this season. let us know. friends@foxnews.com or twitter or facebook. meanwhile, this professor slammed barbara bush as a, quote: racist days after she died. now she is complaining because she is getting hate mail. not kidding. ainsley: you love her as aunt becky on full house. now lori laughlin is returning to another role she joins us live coming up next. ♪ mayoral candidate is giving away to help pay their property taxes. millionaire's second major money give away through nonprofit. the group is filing complaints saying the money should be disclosed as a donation to his campaign. there feet away is ainsley. she is about to talk. ainsley: i mean, i grew up watching that show right there. this is fuller house, we all grew up with full house as well. we know her as aunt becky on the classic tv show full house and the spinoff that you see there fuller house. she hasn't changed. she hasn't aged a bit. she is so gorgeous lori laughlin returning to another role that she is very familiar with and four brand new installments of hallmark's mysteries and movie channels garage sale mystery. take a look. >> this box belonged to my mother-in-law. i couldn't figure out how to open it. >> i can't help wonder if something valuable is inside. >> whatever mom was hiding must have been important. >> hiding from who? >> be careful. a lot of people who touched it turned up dead. >> lori laughlin joins to us talk about. garage sale mystery is back. first one airs on sunday. >> sunday night 9, 8:00 central. we have been doing these movies for the last five years. started as one for the hallmark channel. they decide they wanted to rebrand movie channel it became the hallmark movie and mystery channel and garage sale was jumping off point it did so well for them on main channel. we have done 15 movies now. last year after the august we did garage sale mystery month it was very successful. we did four more for this august and they start airing this sunday night. ainsley: i think we are all fascinated with garage sales we love going to them. annual teaks roadshow is a popular slow and we can all relate to this we all have treasures. >> i play a woman who owns antique store. same cast. tune in see same cast basically become a little series. somehow when we go to the garage sale we will find some piece, something that will tie back into a murder. one of the reasons it is so successful is it reminds me of like television that i grew up watching murder she wrote, columbo, whodunit. nothing scary. nothing graphic or gory. much more geared towards family. i like it. the viewers seem to really love it i love the role of jennifer shannon. i love the cast i work with kevin o'grady and sarah strange. amazing great cast i get to work with. fun. really fun. ainsley: i think we have another clip. >> my goodness, another clip. >> whatever mom was hiding, must have been important. >> hiding from who? >> i don't know yet. but this spiral drawn this way means family. >> these two symbols you put them side by side they become the infinity sign. >> becomes family. >> family is forever. >> that is a first one old puzzle box comes into the antique store. i'm trying to get it open because the clue to this murder or what happened is in the box. so, anyway, so now we have to figure out how to open that box. that's the jumping off point for this one. ainsley: we can watch it sunday night. >> sunday night 9, 8:00 central. every sunday night in the month of august. ainsley: congratulations fuller house nominated for emmy. >> so exciting. long overdue. ainsley: we will be watching sunday night. >> thank you. ainsley: you are welcome. ron vitiello just became the acting ice director. what is his vision for that agency and what does he think about all the calls to abolish his agency. he joins us live for first national tv interview since taking the job. that's coming up next. a child escapes from a car moments before a carjacker takes off with it the dramatic moment caught on camera. ♪ where the stars and stripes ♪ and the eagle flies ♪ steve: aaron sang this song on this program as we look up the avenue of americas towards central park on this, the second day of august already. ainsley: i know. we have been talking about the american flag and people kneeling for the flag and the anthem and it's just we're getting so many of you guys are writing us and sending us your emails. when you look behind us and you see the flags flying. people talk about new york city being so liberal or new yorkerss being liberal or connecticut with the kneeling. you look out here and that gives me hope. drive up sixth avenue. steve: avenue of the americas. ainsley: sixth avenue is called avenue of the americas. brian: in new york city they have an attorney general candidate that not only wants to crack down on ice, would actually like to arrest some ice people. steve: prosecute them. brian: prosecute them who they think is breaking the law. really, instead of enforcing it, they are putting on kevlar vests and putting their life on the line and not to become rich millionaires. joining us now to talk about that is the acting director of ice ron vitiello. ron, great to see you again. what's your response to this new york attorney general comment? >> well, thanks for having me on. so, the men and women of ice get up every day and go out to protect their communities. they are the community. these are basketball coaches. these are people who organize the local 5 k in your area. these men and women are out there protecting america each and every day, improving immigration enforcement, investigating antidumping and countervailing duties. protecting economic security of america by taking intellectual property right cases to court. these people are americans, and they're predicting america each and every day. steve: sure. what do you make of her suggestion that members of ice should be prosecuted? i think a lookout of this anger, ron, is born in the fact that with those family separations a lot of people were very frustrated that what happened. that wasn't ice. that was the border patrol. i think people are confused about the mission. brian: who were following the law. >> we are following the law. we ask -- i spent many months before the last proposition was passed with congress with my colleagues in cis and former colleagues in ice now my partners in ice going up tout hill and asking for relief against this flores settlement, closing the loopholes. i saw the secretary doing the same thing. we saw the administration ask for the closing of these loopholes and additional authorities so that we can enforce the border and secure the country better. ainsley: ron, this letter is zephyr teachout democratic candidate running for attorney general of the state of new york. she promises to prosecute ice if she is elected says you guys are cruel, you are illegal. your behavior is unconstitutional. watch a little clip from her and then we want to get your reaction. >> ice was born in xenophobia in the time after 9/11. and has grown up to become a tool of fear and illegality. and as attorney general, i will continue to speak out against ice. i will prosecute ice for their criminal acts. we have stories of consistent abuse within ice. the idea that we could call this law enforcement is a real offense to the idea of law itself and as a candidate for a.g., i feel it's important to speak out to abolish ice. ainsley: ron, what's your reaction? >> it's sad. ice was designed in the aftermath of 9/11 to protect us all. that's what the agents and the officers of ice and our attorneys and our mission support people they're out there every day protecting this country. brian: senator gillibrand, a new york senator, who wants to run for about the by almost all accounts, she is actually running on that. she says abolish ice every time you talk to her. dolls it bother you that lawmakers, people of power have that vision of -- these people that you know? >> again, ice enforces the law that congress gives us and the president signs. that's how our system works. if people don't like the way that works, there is a specific way to change it but each and every day we're going to go out and protect america. that's what the people of ice do. steve: if you don't like the law, change the law. you are absolutely right. ron, since this is your first tv interview since being named acting director of ice, what's your vision of what you would like to see this agency do in the future? >> we want to continue to protect america. we want to take advantage of the support that we're getting from this administration to improve the work that we do, to add authorities, to secure the border, and to improve immigration enforcement so that we can have a safer community. homeland security, border security, immigration enforcement. that's what we do at ice. we got great people doing that over there. i'm happy to be a part of it and i look forward to taking advantage of the situation that we are in to be tough but smart about how we work. ainsley: maybe other people that said i don't want the position because some lawmakers are coming out saying they want to abolish our agency. what was it? why was it so important to you to accept this position? >> because it's a unique time. we have an administration that supports the used of the rule of law. border security and homeland security. so, when i was asked to do this, i quickly said yes, i would do it 110%. brian: ron, i know you know this firsthand, does any type of barrier/wall, is it effective on the border? you live this. you worked there. do you need it? >> absolutely. have you got to give our minute and women on the border patrol safe place to defend that border, to protect that border. it's not just a wall like we talked about earlier. it's a combination of things including revisions in the law to close these loopholes so when the border patrol does turn over people to ice they can be removed while they are still in our custody. steve: you have plenty to do thank you very much ron vitiello for joining us live. he is the new acting director of ice. thank you, sir. good luck. ainsley: thanks, ron. >> thank you. brian: a woman who may one day get that job jillian mele. jillian: or not. brian: you never know. jillian: i guess you never know, true. let's get you caught up on the story that has captivated the nation for the last couple of weeks. the father and boyfriend of a missing iowa college student making a desperate plea for help 20-year-old mollie tibbets has been missing for two weeks. earlier we spoke with her dad and boyfriend dalton jack in his first live interview. >> everybody was blind sided of the fact that something like this did happen in our small little town. >> there is no information too insignificant. just think. think about what you saw and call the authorities. i really think that's how we are going to get mollie back. i really do. jillian: there is a $30,000 reward for information. a 7-year-old girl escaped from her mom's minivan just moments before a carjacker takes off. the little girl was waiting inside the car at a detroit gas station as her mother paid inside. watch. >> starting to get in the car and i went out the car. i went inside the gas station. >> you were fast. >> that's called stealing. >> mother frantically running after the car not realizing that her daughter made it out. police are still searching for the suspect. >> do you remember the professor who called former first lady barbara bush an amazing racist right after she died? well now she is blaming biased reporting for all the hate mail she has gotten. fresno state professor ran drandajarar emails with this statement quote i want you to see how your paper's unethical and biased reporting feeds into inhumane and cruel treatment towards the people you write about. despite her outrage over her comments, she still has a job. your favorite alien may be coming back to tv. >> stuck on earth. i can't get back to my place of birth. i'm making the best you have a bad situation ♪ think of it as an exten extended. jillian: warner brothers is reportedly in the early stages of a of a reboot. last new episode of the classic sitcom aired in 1990. steve: very, very popular. ainsley: i loved that show. brian: i never saw an episode. ainsley: stupid joke but i thought it was hilarious. alf your turn to say grace. he said grace. that was it i got so tickled when i was little. he was really cynical. he lived in this great family and really cynical. steve: he was from another planet. clearly hollywood has one run out of ideas we are recycling those. brian: of a ialf coming back? same actor to ho played alf? ainsley: same puppet you mean, same voice? janice: alf is real? steve: don't answer. ainsley: 41 minutes after the top of the hour. driver capturing a cloud formation that looks just like an angel. what do you think? steve: it looks just like an angel. the man taking the picture while driving down a texas highway posting it online calling it an angel clown. ainsley: brian, did you say mary poppins? brian: that's what i thought. janice dean is live on the plaza with the forecast. wow, look at the people around you. janice: look at this. amazing. you guys excited to be on television. [cheers] janice: any birthdays or anniversaries here? birthdays or anniversaries? you right this month? how many? >> 44. janice: what? what is the secret to 44? >> answering yes to her. janice: i love it answering yes. let's take a look at the maps. beautiful day here in new york city to be visiting. we do have the chance for rain in the forecast along the east coast but today in new york you should be in pretty good shape. if you live across florida the southeast rain in the forecast as we head into the weekend. better day on sunday for most. then across the west we are just not getting the relief that we need. still dealing with a lot of wildfire danger and more high heat and unfortunately gusty winds. so, fire weather is going to be in the forecast in the next couple of days. waive to everybody at home. look at my friends. thank you guys for coming. look at these beautiful people. this is the reason why i come to work every day. brian: very attractive crowd. janice: you are welcome. can i have a hug? much better looking than yesterday's crowd. steve: at one point she didn't have anybody out there yesterday. that's why. steve: some liberals cannot stop talking about democratic social isles alexandria ocasio-cortez, but she is not the only millennial running in new york city. meet the young republican challenging a top democrat coming up next u. brian: and looking for some summer steals? how about brand new beach towels for 70% off. mega morning deals is coming your way. if you are wet and getting out of pool, run to our studio, we have a towel for you. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ you shouldn't be rushed into booking a hotel. with expedia's add-on advantage, booking a flight unlocks discounts on select hotels until the day you leave for your trip. add-on advantage. only when you book with expedia. coaches hired since march. going rate up to 50 bucks an hour. forget video games coaches in north carolina are worried about their math skills. about 2400 elementary teachers in the state failed the math section of licensing exam since pierson publishing company took over testing in 2013. state education officials say they will review the exam. steve? steve: all right. thank you very much, jillian. democratic socialist alexandria ocasio-cortez isn't the only millennial in the new york congressional race. naomi left is the republican candidate looking to unseat veteran democrat jerry nadler. levin and ocasio-cortez may both be grassroots millennials challenging politicians but levin says their means to this end could not be more different. naomi levin joins us live now. >> thank you so much for having me on this show. i'm excited to be here. steve: this woman alexandria ocasio-cortez is getting so much attention because she is a millennial and she but then again she is a socialist. we thought we would bring new so explain the similarities between the two of you. >> so there is one thing i didn't mention in my tweet we both went to boston university as well there are many similarities but, you know, she is promoting socialism. socialism has been tried in many countries and failed everywhere. look at venezuela, for example. i don't want our country to end up like that. i'm a software engineer. i have been working in the industry practical solutions to problems that we need to solve. steve: and the things you are most interested in national security, education, lowering taxes, which is big here in new york. i don't know that she is that interested in lowering taxes. i think she would like to jack up taxes on the most successful to pay for free everything. >> right. right. well, the policies that she proposes are dangerous. i'm running for congress for completely different reason. i'm running to represent the people of manhattan, the people of burrow park. the people of lower manhattan and ground zero that have experienced 9/11. they know what terrorism is. and they haven't felt represented by congressman nadler for years. how can they vote for someone who trusts the iranian regime with nuclear weapons? steve: let's talk numbers because this is a very blue district that you are running in. >> yes. steve: how many republicans in your district. >> yeah. so the district was actually over 70% democrat. a little bit over 70% democrat. i'm a first-time candidate. steve: right. >> and this is great time for me to run because we're seeing more and more that young people aren't looking to elect career politicians. they are also looking for to the republican party as better stewards of the economy and undeniable that our economy is booming. g.d.p. is at 4.1%. i have the policies that will lower taxes. this is what the people are looking for. expand educational opportunities. and my opponent goes against all those things and doesn't protect the people of my district. steve: i think on both sides you and alexandria both have new ideas and that's one of the things people like most. >> absolutely. >> good luck to you naomi levin is running in the 10th congressional district in new york. sit right there for a second. because i'm going to tell folks about. this the left is freaking out over the dangers ever 3-d printed guns. what is the real story, dana loesch here to separate fact from fiction and she is coming up. looking for summer steals? 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>> well, you're a combat veteran. my father was a combat veteran. there is a promise sometimes spoken, often not spoken that we leave no man behind and that's what great nations do. today what the american people, saw, frankly the world saw, was the united states of america saying that we will keep that promise, even nearly seven decades later. and we will afford the honor and the recognition and the compassion that the families of our fallen and our fallen are due. steve: now, pete, we understand from your conversation with us yesterday from honolulu you made a stop -- you didn't know you were going to in los angeles before you continued on to hawaii. you picked up two people who lost their fathers during the core korean war, a man named rick downs, who lost his father when he was 3 when his father's bomber went down over north korea. and diane brown, she has been searching for her father 66 years. her only memory, four years old at the airport, she said good-bye, daddy. he never came home. she was there in hawaii yesterday. the. >> we had an amazing opportunity to speak with her, as you said, four years old, hugged and kissed her father, said good-bye, he never came home and she always hoped and prayed her government would stay committed to bringing him home. so the vice president brought her for this ceremony. we had a chance to speak to her. her words speak for themselves is. these men are not numbers. they are individual souls. this is what she had to say. >> found myself looking at every single one as they came out of the plane and ask, in my mind was going, are you there, daddy? are you coming home? i hope you're back home and can rest in peace for the country you served. so each flag-draped case that went through my mind. of course there are other families. i don't know that my father's remains are there but i ask that if my father isn't there, that all families, who have a missing loved one have that chance to get their loved one back. and i blessed each case in my mind. ainsley: wow, very moving. >> that's right. we also asked her what her message would be to president trump, she simply said gratitude. amidst all the negotiations of geopolitics that hopefully keep our world safer that the commander-in-chief is still committed to her father and over 7,000 still missing in action on the korean peninsula. we'll follow what happens. we'll have more from the interview with the vice president later on in the hour of this program. steve: in fact it was the president's summit with kim jong-un in june that got the ball rolling. kim promised they would return some of the war dead and he did just that yesterday. pete, thank you very much for flying all the way out to hawaii. your reporting has been terrific. ainsley: it is nice to hear from some of these individuals too so we can put a face with some of these remains. we talked about it. almost 70 years since the war since they took their last breath in another country. they're finally home on american soil and will be able to rest in peace. brian: maybe officially end the war soon. would be great if they denuclearizationed along the way. immigration on the forefront of president's mind. he is talking about shutting down the government until he gets his wall and border enforcement he always believed that should be the first thing we do as a country. one thing getting to him, instead of cracking down, debates on the wall, types of barrier, people are talking about the people cracking down and it's i.c.e. this agency formed and modernized to confront the terrorist threat that really was cast upon oust on 9/11. and more and more prominent democrats are coming out to abolish i.c.e., even though democratic, democrats who are savvy know it's a political loser and not only it defies logic. one of those candidates is zephyr teachout. a attorney general candidate in new york. listen to her. try to ignore the music. >> i.c.e. was born in xenophobia, in the time after 9/11. and has grown up to become a tool of fear and illegality. as attorney general i will continue to speak out against i.c.e. i will prosecute i.c.e. for their criminal acts. we have stories of consistent abuse within i.c.e. the idea we could call this law enforcement is a real offense to the idea of law itself. ands a candidate for ag i feel like it is really important to speak out to abolish i.c.e. steve: she wants to abolish i.c.e. wants to prosecute members of i.c.e. for criminal acts. she is lecturer at fordham law school. i would be interested to find out what criminal acts i.c.e. committed. keep in mind they are following instructions given to them by law through congress. if you don't like the laws, change them. talk to congress. brian: ron vitiello is with us. he is acting i.c.e. director. he systematically listened to this and responded this way. >> i.c.e. enforces the law that congress gives us and the president signs. that is how our system works. if people don't like the way that works there is specific way to change it but each and every day we'll go out and protect america. that is what the people of i.c.e. do. steve: current zephyr teachout according to sienna college poll is in third place. will she get selected to represent the democratic party for attorney general? right now not looking good but she is getting a lot of publicity for this. ainsley: senator gillibrand has endorsed her. we asked ron, when you took this job, everyone saying abolish i.c.e., not everyone but a lot of democrats say abolish i.c.e. i didn't give a second thought. brian: the agency protested in portland ongoing, took down the american flag. philadelphia. oakland. there has been theatrics at the border. steve: all about the occupy i.c.e. movement. 8:10 in new york city. jillian joins us live with folks taking to the street. jillian: in chicago. activists march on the streets of chicago protesting against violence. it comes days after a recent shooting at a basketball court that left three children hurt. democratic mayor rahm emanuel is not invited. organizers call for his resignation. the city has seen 1200 shootings this year. polls open in tennessee. all eyes on the republican primaries. in the gubernatorial race, vice president's pence pick congresswoman diane black faces off against businessman randy boyd and businessman bill lee. retiring senator bob corker's seat will be up for grab in november. hopes his pick, congresswoman marsha blackburn will claim victory over aaron pettigrew in the republican primary. president barack obama announced his midterm picks. he is endorses 81 candidates. a make america again rally. bob barr letta. he is up against bob casey. he narrowly won the state in the 2016 press lendings election, a presumed easy win for hillary clinton. 85-year-old woman made a quilt for someone special. bet i alexander spent four months on the project after breaking her hip. when i was thinking who this quilt would be for, the holy spirit told me it should be for president trump. the indiana grandma, the quilt would fit a queen-size bed but would rather see president trump hang it in the white house. no word if that will happen. brian: maybe the lincoln bedroom. how many bedrooms do they have there? 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>> yeah. absolutely. they have received over 200 tips. law enforcement are trying, rather thin in the amount of people, law enforcement officers, but they're running down each and everyone of these tips. it is significant for the public. if you know something, if you have seen something, just call law enforcement. help law enforcement to bring mollie home. that is what rob said. my heart goes out to that father. we're all parents, all three of us, and we know what that parent is going through at this immediate time, steve and ainsley. ainsley: the dad has been very optimistic, very positive. they made plans together as a family. plans for her life to get married, have children, finish school. he wants her back desperately. he was on the program earlier. steve interviewed him, listen to this. >> whether they saw mollie or whether they saw something at a place that seems insignificant or if they're suspicious about a loved one or a friend, that they're reluctant to turn in to the authorities for something they suspect, if they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear and so turn that information over to the authorities. steve: you know, ted, there is a story out yesterday afternoon out of kansas city, apparently somebody saw somebody who looked a lot like molly at a truck stop in the cab of an 18-wheeler about a week or two ago. obviously now the authorities are looking into that. they have got a lot of different leads they're trying to pursue. >> absolutely. and it is so important for the public to become engaged. i have seen this happen before, there are second sightings. styles they work out, sometimes they don't. but what we want the public to do is to continue to bring in those various leads. ainsley: does she have brothers and sisters? i saw her cousin was speaking out at a press conference or a vigil yesterday? what about her family, what do we know about them? >> she does have brothers and officers. as a matter of fact her brother is the one at 5:30 on july 18th that dropped her off. the whole family is grieving. this whole area is grieving. they're trying to bring mollie home, ainsley. steve: we all are. ted williams, thank you very much for the live report from grenell, iowa. ainsley: thanks, ted. the left are up in arms over the danger of 3d printed guns but what is the real story here? dana loesch is here to separate fact from fiction. steve: disgraced fbi agent and lovebird, peter strzok wanted to keep security clearance after joining the team. the email you will hear about it after we come back live from new york and washington, d.c. ♪ before nexium 24hr mark could only imagine... a peaceful night sleep without frequent heartburn waking him up. now that dream is a reality. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn? 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brian: did not take notes. ainsley: i did. steve: watching the tape. liberal democrats and gun control activists are up in arms over the potential release of blueprints for 3d printed guns. >> this country has a gun violence problem and now it has a do it yourself is downloadable guns that will supercharge this crisis. >> our state department is saying hey this, is a giveaway for terrorists. >> the trump administration pushed by the gun activists did this. ainsley: our next guest points out thee arguments are not exactly based on the facts. here to set it all straight for us radio talk show host, dana loesch. what are the facts, dana. >> good morning, ainsley and steve and brian, good to see you all. yeah, the sound bites you played, this is part of the problem. there is a lot of misinformation out there and it is pretty shameful that there are elected officials that are trying to exploit the lack of information and lack of knowledge about this entire issue and fear monger. that is exactly what this is. get a couple things straight about the 3d gun debate. they're trying to blame this on the trump administration. is silly to do so. silly to blame this on the trump administration this is talking about legal activity since ineps of america. when they say undetectable, i've seen senators like ed markey say this, i've seen chuck schumer say, oh, my gosh, there will be a rash of undetectable guns out there that will with be printed and they will arm criminals and terrorists, first off, all of the plans that we're talking about actually follow the rule of law. there is no such thing as a legal undetectable gun. so let's get that straight. in fact, atf spells this out. this is codified. the statute's out there. in order for it to be considered a legal firearm, whether or not you're a personally making it or a commercially-made firearm you have to have so many ounces of metal. you can't such a thing. and they're lawmakers. so they should know because of the literally named, undetectable firearms act of 1988. that i would like to add, the the nra helped to craft. been illegal in 30 years, thanks in part to nra none of the lawmakers acknowledge but want to blame the organization simultaneously. second they talk about all the criminals will get hands on all of the 3d printing machines and print out all of these plastic guns. full tis closure here. i'm looking into purchasing a 3d printer. i was talking to a friend of mine last night, i don't think people realize how expensive it is to get a december 3d printer to handle heavy-duty plastic. to get materials and printer talking about dropping serious copy on a machine to make, to print out a plastic firearm that may last a few round before it breaks. very expensive. cost prohibitive. criminals will not go out and buy 3d printing machines can get a boatload of firearms on black market and file serial numbers off. none of these arguments are based in reality. they're fear-mongering. steve: bad people that want to get their hand on a gun buy one legally or steal one. >> right. steve: scary thing, dane in, about the little plastic guns, that would be a way for somebody to sneak a gun on to a airplane. from earlier answer, sounds like in addition to the plastic, there are metal that would show up on a screener? >> yes. you have to have metal to be a part of it. again, undetectable firearms act. something like 3.6 ounces. so many ounces of metal you have to incorporate into the firearm. according to, that is federal law. that is what they're not telling you -- brian: but you can pop the piece of metal out? people are saying you can pop the piece of metal out. >> if you want to violate the law, have something that will not be sturdy and will be suspect. criminals will violate the law. that is who criminals are. it is really sad that law-abiding americans pay price tore criminal actions, it is really sad that millions of americans, because of their fellowship and second amendment organization are constantly blamed for either misinformation or actions of criminals. i really wish chuck schumer, ed markey, all of thighs other lawmakers would, a, acknowledge the law, tell their constituents about it, and give credit where credit is due. steve: why do you want a 3d printer? brian: that will happen. >> i'm interested in the mechanics of it. i like how things work. i think it would be fun to put it together. why not? i also knit so. brian: do you really? >> i do. i do. i knit all the time. steve: radio show host, also spokesperson for the nra. brian: do you make your own butter? steve: dana, thank you very much. ainsley: candles. brian: wow. 30 minutes before the top of the hour. vice president mike pence says the best is yet to come for the trump economy. >> here we are the second quarter of this year, 4.1% growth. and we think we're just getting started. brian: most of pete's exclusive one-on-one interview is coming your way next. ainsley: plus have you heard about the new diagnosis for hillary clinton supporters who still can't get over the election? it is called trump anxiety disorder. tammy bruce is here with a dose of reality coming up ♪ or... around the yard. on the shelf... or even... out in the field. your mom knew she could always count on us... and your grandma did too. because for over 150 years, we've been right by your side. advancing the health of the people, plants and pets you love. so, from all of us at bayer... thank you for trusting in us. then... and now. [playing of "taps"] ainsley: isn't that beautiful? those are the remains of the individuals who lost their lives in north korea. what beautiful to see their caskets draped in the american flag. back home finally after nearly 70 years. brian: pete hegseth witnessed it all yesterday live. he was on the ground, still there in honolulu, hawaii, where he had a chance to sit down with the vice president of the united states. right, pete? >> absolutely, brian. no more powerful sign or sound than that, welcome home, men. that is what that ceremony was all about, giving honor to those who gave so much. quick reminder, guys, it was seven months ago, the island of hawaii had a false alarm that north korea may be firing a missile at them. we forget that. this is ceremony as part of a negotiation to try to denuclearization the korean peninsula, this one small step. a big step. we sat down with the vice president after the ceremony, still clearly affected by the power of it and talking about issues related to home. watch me with the vice president yesterday. stopping -- dropping off caskets instead of dropping bombs on the peninsula. where are we on the outcome, a great step that is meaningful but a lot of people are saying they're still fueling and creating icbms. where are we getting to that ultimate goal? >> the only reason we are here today, very early in our administration president trump took a strong stand and said we would not tolerate the presence of nuclear weapons and missiles in the possession of north korea could threaten the united states or our allies. he took unprecedented steps to bring economic pressure to bear. while many worried about the approach, what it did was bring north korea to the negotiating table. in that historic summit he secured not just a commitment to bring our heroes home, which began today, but also a commitment to achieve the complete denuclearization of the korean peninsula. and, what i can tell you, pete, is that we're continuing to work very diligently. the secretary of state will be in the region again this week. those negotiations and discussions are on going. as i said today we saw this promise kept by north korea as evidence of the progress that we are making. and we continue to remain hopeful that that we will achieve the aim that has eluded the world for decade, a nuclear-free korean peninsula and that we'll bring our boys home. >> you believe this is indicative of a process still very much on track? >> we are very hopeful that, that in today's events there is further evidence that the promises made in singapore by north korea will be kept. >> i want to turn to home for a second though. the president spoke a lot recently about the potential for a shutdown if he doesn't get the funding for the wall. he said in march, i will never again, will i sign a budget that doesn't include funding for the wall. will he truly either before or after the election shut the government down if he doesn't have the wall funded? >> i think it is very clear that from the campaign forward president trump has made it clear that a country without borders is not a country. >> people say he won't do it, that he's bluffing? >> what i can promise you is, we're working with the congress to make sure we provide for the common defense, that we fund the government. there is a series of spending bills. when it comes to border security, i know president trump is prepared to take a strong stand and demand that this congress respond to the american people, give us the funding to build a wall, to close those loopholes, that are droving illegal immigration and human trafficking, support our border security. support our organizations and agencies like i.c.e. doing incredible, core rain just job across the country. i expect the president will take that strong stand before the fall is out. >> with the economy going where it is, you have been in congress since 2001. have you seen a economy like this before? >> it really is extraordinary. i never forget on the campaign trail in 2016 in september when, when then candidate donald trump announced that we would have a national goal of 4% gdp growth in the economy and it was rejected by virtually every -- >> pigs are going to fly. >> economist in the country. here we have last year, nearly 3% growth in the calendar year, our first year in office. thanks to the president's leadership, strong partners, republican majorities in congress, here we are the second quarter of this year 4.1% growth. we think we're just getting started. when you see the tremendous increase in exports in the second quarter. when you see the tremendous increase in business investment, we see wages rising, i do believe the best is yet to come. all the result of the fact that president trump has been working every die to keep his promises to the american people. and to cut taxes, to roll back regulations, unleash american energy and it's working, pete. >> you know, guys, we saw success in the economy the last quarter but yesterday was a testament was a big victory for america. it was a big victory for president trump and administration staring down north korea getting the remains back and getting -- we covered the network coverage. very little coverage on networks. fox news channel covered it. american people want to see the government at work for their heroes. that is what the ceremony was. beautiful moment. welcome home to the boys. we look forward finding out who they are, returning them to their families. steve: pete absolutely. it all started with the summit between our president and kim jong-un. he said he would do it and he did it. it was a gesture of good faith. the vice president told you we remain hopeful it would lead to denuking. nonetheless a gesture appreciated by all americans. >> very much so. absolutely. thanks for sending me here, guys. a life-changer for sure. great honor. >> i know you haven't had any slight. it was worth it. those boys are home. you are telling the stories because they can't speak for themselves. this is the headline in the "new york post." says, coming home. steve: if you're going to get sent somewhere to work, being sent to hawaii is as assignment. brian: especially ainsley's american express. wonderful gesture. ainsley: send you the bill. steve: i don't know how much he can spend on a military base. i don't know. brian: that's true. ainsley: they probably have a px. steve: 19 minutes before the top of the hour. gillian has a story about the man murdered in the "fast & furious." jillian: get you caught up. family of murder border patrol agent brian terry is speaking out after his accused killer is extradited from mexico. brian's brother, kent terry, says it is time to secure our border. >> i was kind of relieved a little bit. but there is still a bigger fight with the people in d.c. if we had a wall, a solid wall, these guys would es hate about coming across again. jillian: terry was killed in a gunfight on the southern border. his death exposed operation "fast & furious," a program that a allowed criminals to buy guns in the u.s. with the goal of tracking them into mexico. fbi agent peter strzok insisted on keeping security clearance and powers before joining robert mueller's team. emails reveal strzok's supervisor agreed to the request. he was part of the investigation into the alleged russian ties. he came under fire when thousands of texts exchanged with colleague lisa page came to light. police officers rushing people out of a burning building. the incredible rescue is caught on bodycam. watch this. [shouting] >> is there anybody else in this house? >> anybody else in there? jillian: look at that on and off-duty police officers and firefighters pulling a woman out through a window in bloomfield, connecticut. another person was trapped on the roof. thankfully nobody was seriously hurt. amazing to see that, isn't it. steve: bodycam a images bring us there and it is shocking. they are heroes. ainsley: something you see in a movie. you don't expect it happen like that. >> steve, thank you, jillian. brian: we owe you a favor. straight ahead hillary clinton supporters are still upset about the election, they have ha new diagnosis. it is called trump anxiety disorder. the main symptom? fearing that the world is ending. most of those people are on couch at "the view." tammy bruce has a cure for the left net. ainsley: they call it tad, tad. brian: i'm sure. ainsley: more details like a beauty mirror. brian, you got to get it. brian: i need it. ainsley: 80% off. steve: act before midnight. see what you look like, finally. 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>> obviously when you're diagnosed with something, this is really reaction by people who can't deal with the fact that their favorite person didn't win an election. no, it is not the end of the world. in the last 100 years there is plenty of that. the holocaust, two world wars, cuban missile crisis, the cold war, a lot of things genuinely would make you think the world was ending. for obviously millions of people it did. in this case a person didn't win an election. it will change. the person who did win is doing a great job, right? so when you assign a disorder to someone, you're saying something from the outside did something to you, that you're not in control of yourself. in fact, we are in control of ourselves. we can adjust our attitude when it comes to how we deal with the world. brian: how hillary handled her loss is lot to do with the other anxiety he feels. >> that's true. brian: jfk beatniks son. controversy in illinois. nix con walks away. al gore lost 500 votes to bush. he walked away, became an election. >> this is how elections work. not just hillary, maxine waters, john brennan, chuck schumer, poem telling individuals this is treason. brian: cataclysmic. >> this is armageddon. leadership know that those on the edge will be pushed over. brian: this worries me, ben carson's house, kirstjen nielsen, betsy devos's yacht let go into the bay. >> right. brian: attack on hollywood walk of fame, all this stuff shows violence is upon us. this is not just winning and losing. >> a story from just a couple days ago where a woman deliberately, allegedly hit a car of a man who had a trump bumper sticker. local reporter wondered if trump anxiety disorder, tad, could be argued in court as an excuse for this violence this is what is happening now. so you have not everybody, certainly but even of course the shooting of steve scalise and attempted mass murder at that baseball field. individuals who are already on the edge, unhinged, are receiving permission with this kind of discussion to do what they want to do. brian: getting too serious, tammy. more than winning and losing politics. people have to snap out of it. >> right. bottom line. brian: tammy bruce, thank you. >> my pleasure. brian: wireless ear pods for 70% off, right and left. megamorning deals coming your way. check with a guy who never wants to put headsets on because he wants to hear the natural sounds of earth. >> with ear buds you wear one, two looks weird. that is my passion tip. brian: i know how to pick you out of a crowd. >> i miss you brian. good morning, brother. where is mollie tibbetts? 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andrea, it is great to see you, congratulations on 40 amazing years. >> it is great to work with you. >> thank you. >> good afternoon to all of you, i am kasie hunt in today for craig melvin. stop this. the president tells is attorney general to end the russia investigation in a string of tweets on the same day his form er campaign chairman's trail. >> the press briefing should start in about 15 minutes. we'll see how they respond to questions about this. plus, russian influence, hearing on capitol hill reveals russia's push to sway american voters went deeper than we thought. we all these talks, when do we see action to stop it? off message, the president says you need to buy an id to buy groceries the day after his administration floats the idea of a huge tax cut for the rich. we start with president trump's twofold twitter attacks today demanding his attorney general end the special counsel investigation. he defended the target of one of the biggest indictment results in that probe. former campaign paul manafort. the white house press briefing in about 15 minutes. we are expecting sarah sanders to take the podium and answer questions about why the president wants to end the probe that secured five guilty pleas and dozens of indictments. let's start with our nbc news reporter peter alexander at the white house and ken dilanian following the manafort trial in virginia. ken, i want to start with you. what is the white house and how are they pushing back, there is some new reporting from rudy giuliani and the president's attorneys talking about the meaning of the word "should"? >> reporter: that's exactly right. the white house is pushing back by directing reporters like myself to the outside counsel. i will be the reporter who goes in the room within the next 45 minutes and sarah sanders will be walking out here in about 15 minutes from now. here is what this all began with. it was in effect on extraordinary appeal, jeff sessions earlier on twitter. this is what president trump tweeted. we'll put it up on the screen. >> he says this is a terrible situation and attorney general jeff sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt right now before it continues to stain our country. bob mueller is totally conflicted and his 17 angry democrats that are doing his dirty work are a disgrace to usa. >> "the washington post" heard from rudy giuliani and jay sekulow. sekulow telling "the post," the president did not have any order on this. we heard from rudy giuliani that it is established that the president uses his tweets to establish his opinions, he carefully uses the word "should." we reached out to the justice department as well and they are declining to comment. kas kasie. >> because we know the president is so exactly careful of which words he chooses to use. >> exactly. >> what did the president say about paul manafort? >> reporter: the president has been paying close attention to what's happening across the river of that trial of this former campaign trying to distance himself in the past saying he was aman -- manafort campaign for five months. the president tweeted. looking back in history, who was treated worse, alfonse capone, legendary mob boss, killer public enemy number one. the bottom line of this president is he's frustrated on this. he thinks that he's being connected to the paul manafort's case that he knows all of these charges relate to actions. it is worth noting that the president then kancandidate don trump knew manafort and he has known him for decades and manafort has lived at trump tower for a selected time. >> he did select him to go onto share his campaign without checking into that background. peter, thanks. >> ken dilanian tell us of the case. >> reporter: the jury has not told these prosecutors work for mueller. how extraordinary it is for the president of the united states to denounce his own justice department and fbi and unlawfully predicated criminal investigations over seen by his own appointee. we kind of got used to it from this president. as for the trial, it is so far from this political world in washington. right now kasie, we are deep in the world of men's fashion. >> do you own an ostrich jacket? >> reporter: i do not. paul manafort does and the prosecution introduced some pictures of his closets at the condo from the fbi executed a search warrant and the next witness is the guy named matt katsman. the whole point is to show the jury paul manafort evaded taxes and spent money that was stocked in overseas bank accounts on these high end items and other evidence included land randolpher arandolp rover and $50,000 renovations on a couple of bathroom and property. the judge is constantly -- paul manafort is not on trial because he had a lavish style. 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Coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. order. i think that i would rather be on the prosecution on that particular piece of evidence in the same way that he said would means wouldn't. >> to that point aaron. she's right in the context of any one of us operating in a day-to-day life with somebody and not just your boss but kind of the commander in chief of the united states of america tells you to do something, how else are you supposed to take it? >> i keep on thinking if i got my boss came to me and said hey, you should write about this thing. i would not take that as an option. i think maybe i should go write that thing. i definitely should if i want to watch out for my job. so i think that the question though whether that rises to the legal standards just because it is meant to be interpreted as a command. i think that's the argument that the president's lawyers are going to make. >> matt miller, what's the difference between the public and private version of this? one of the things that's interesting of the idea that mueller is going through the tweets. often times we don't necessarily -- the president's keeping something secret. in this case, it seems that the public statements itself are problematic. >> they are just as powerful evidence as anything he said in private. if the president is taking direct action to conceal something, for example, when he asked all his staff to leave the room so he can have a one on one conversation with james comey. he knew what he was doing is inappropriate. if he were to do a television interview and directly admit what he did, why he did it with lester holt when he said i fired james comey because of the russian investigation. that's powerful evidence against him. just because he's stupid enough to do it publicly does not mean it is any less damaging. >> although there is the question of contra dridictions the president makes. >> the strategy, you say one thing and the other thing and it is totally contradictory and nobody know his state of mind. is he doing that because he's trying to play in his defense of the russian investigation or is he all over the place? i don't think anybody knows the answer to that question. we spend a large portion of our time in the media psychoanalyzing the president trying to figure out what he means. that's a game to an extent of the mueller investigation have to play, too. >> jill, do you see any store rhistoric parallels that we need to focus on? >> everyday is parallels. we are getting a pretty powerful case where the pieces of evidence are coming to ring tog now. >> i am going to count on viewers to come up with a fake nixon's account. matt miller before we go, we should not lose site of the fact that he's telling jeff sessions to end this. >> of course, much of the president and much of his anger, we know he's angry about this. jeff sessions had no choice to recuse himself. it was not an optional act. it was written in regulation. the president does not care about that and he's asking sessions to violate the department of justice regulations and unrecuse himself and shut down the investigation into the president himself. that's powerful evidence of the president corrupting. >> it is only wednesday. >> aaron blake and ji and, at his age, he's at greater risk for low blood sugar. tresiba® releases slow and steady and works all day and night like the body's insulin. 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u.s. focus activities by the internet research agency out of russia spiked into mid of 2017. that's a new nugget. another thing we want to hit is talking about what we should be looking for going into the 2018 midterms. automated accounts as we have reported are payable to put out much more devices content faster than humans so want to discord in the upcoming election and the individuals have been testifying have said faster than 25 or 30 acts. they are organizing facebook users bideny identity and other background issues and we are talking about antimuslims or anti-lgbtq and looking at extreme issues that can be used in extreme ways. i want to share some sound from some of the folks who testifies who this goes beyond facebook and twitter. >> we spend a lot of time talking about facebook and twitter. as renee highlighted and others have noted, this is a problem of the entire information ecosystem. this is crossed platform and reddit confirms hundreds of created accounts and tumblr did it and that platform was used to target the african-american community. this is why it is so difficult to quantify in any meaningful way the reach of these activities. this is across the entire ecosystem. >> so kasie, what we are seeing is a continued attempt of manipulation. facebook declined to say whether those problems, problematic pages or accounts came from russia or not. senator mark warner says it is kremlin's activities. there are a lot of voices weighing into this right now. the real center of the issue so far from this, one individual testifying saying extreme are screaming while the majority is whispering. it captures the sentiment of what we are learning today. >> derek, i want to show you something that senator susan collins said today just exactly what the united states are doing with the problem that jo lynn just laid out. >> no, i don't think the administration is focused enough on this issue. for one thing, we no longer have a cyber security expert at the white house whose sole job is to focus on issues like this. that's a very porpt step that muy important step to take. >> it may be too late. >> big question is will russia intervene of the 2018 elections in the same way we know? the answer is they started to try. facebook shuts down over a dozen accounts. they found out certain profiles have been linked to the internet research agency, the ira have spent $11,000 on its platform. they essentially said help us work on this problem. you have facebook having this sort of realization that their platform is being used to so division and hate and disunity of election year. >> you have the white house which is doing something completely different. trump meeting with putin and refusing to say anything to russia acted inappropriately. you have the president repusing often to investigate moving further on these issues. i think she's exactly right. you have this remarkable situation where the business and political community, at least large parts of it are united in their efforts to combat russian attempts to intervene in our elections and the president of the united states is not only refusing frankly to help them, he's actually purposefully trying to shut down an investigation, illegal investigations into the origins of these efforts. it is a shocking thing. >> jo, at this point, facebook is turning to our government saying hey, can you help us get to the end of this and figure out the last mile of what is going on here, right? >> well, facebook is cooperating with the department of justice and fbi and other agencies in washington. the real issue is regulation and self-policing. these major tech companies are not capable of policing themselves and running a flat form that can promote real true tiff or just the basic truth. there is not a political will right now, at least on capital hill to place regulations on these companies or sort out what it may look like. they're saying if it is necessary, they see a lot of political will coming out from the senate and the house and you got the intel committee hearing coming up from the week of september where you will hear jack dorsey and we don't know if the google's ceo is going to accept his invitation. those are critical moments that's coming up that we'll be watching closely if anything can be moving. that's september and the midterm is in november. >> coming up very, very quickly. nbc jo lynn kent and jared thompson. thank you very much. >> thanks. >> we are keep on watching the white house's brief pressing room. these briefings have become less and less frequent. there is quite a bit of ground to cover. the president in his element among his supporters, how he connects to the everyday man. his interesting take on what you have to do if you want to buy groceries. i'm ray and i quit smoking with chantix. i tried cold turkey, i tried the patch. they didn't work for me. i didn't think anything was going to work for me until i tried chantix. chantix, along with support, helps you quit smoking. chantix reduced my urge to smoke. i needed that to quit. when you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. some people had changes in behavior or thinking, aggression, hostility, agitation, depressed mood, or suicidal thoughts or actions with chantix. serious side effects may include seizures, new or worse heart or blood vessel problems, sleepwalking or allergic and skin reactions which can be life-threatening. stop chantix and get help right away if you have any of these. tell your healthcare provider if you've had depression or other mental health problems. decrease alcohol use while taking chantix. use caution when driving or operating machinery. the most common side effect is nausea. i can't tell you how good it feels to have smoking behind me. talk to your doctor about chantix. it's a high-tech sleep revolution. the sleep number 360 smart bed intelligently senses your movement and automatically adjusts. so you wake up ready to run the world. the new sleep number 360 smart bed, from $999. it was always our singular focus, a distinct determination. to do whatever it takes, use every possible resource. to fight cancer. and never lose sight of the patients we're fighting for. our cancer treatment specialists share the same vision. experts from all over the world, working closely together to deliver truly personalized cancer care. specialists focused on treating cancer. using advanced technologies. and more precise treatments than before. working as hard as we can- doing all that we can- for everyone who walks through our doors. this is cancer treatment centers of america. and these are the specialists we're proud to call our own. treating cancer isn't one thing we do. it's the only thing we do. expert medicine works here. learn more at cancercenter.com cancer treatment centers of america. appointments available now. 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china or the united states? >> we'll have an update later today and there will be a call at 3:30 this afternoon to walkthru the walk through the details o f that update. the bottom line is the president is going to continue to hold china responsible for their unfair trade practices. this is gone on for long enough and he's going to do something about it. >> does the president believe that -- the president have made some head waves with the e.u. in terms of taking steps and leveling the plain field . does the president's team believe that's possible with china without some punitive measures. >> we would like to see the plain field levelled, the president as both he and i think about 15 members of his administration have said repeatedly we like to see the unfair trade practices. until that happens, the president is going hold their feet on the fire. he'll don't put pressure on china. he's not going to sit back and allow american industry and workers to be talkken of. >> jay. evangelicals have been up? arms of last year's tax law, there is a provision in there that forced them to pay 21% of federal income tax. can i assure that they don't have to pay a new tax? >> i am not going to make a blanket generalization. the reform package was to provide the greatest amount of relief to the greatest number of americans and we feel that it has done that. we feel that the other policies that the president has put forward when it comes to the economy have move to the balfour ward and making our economy stronger than it has been in decades. i think you can see that by all of the numbers that have come out over the last year and a half. >> hunter. >> thank you, sarah. what does the president prepare to do to make sure they keep their tax exemption? >> certainly something that we are looking into but i don't have anything specific. >> any threatening letter or communication aimed a aat -- rudy giuliani issued a statement saying he does not think this morning's tweet is obstruction because the president says sessions should stop the mueller probe. what i want to know is rudy giuliani the one giving the president legal advice on his tweets and does that statement reflect the opinions of the president's legal team. >> the president is not obstructing. he's fighting back and stating it clearly and expressing the frustration that he has with the level of corruption that we have seen from people like jim comey and peter strzok and andrew mccabe. there is no reason he should not be able to voice that opinion. margar margaret? >> tesla plans to spend $5 billion to build a plant in china. certainly we love to see all american companies investing here and i don't have anything specific on tesla but we would encourage all companies to build their plants in america and put their investments here and not engage and help bolster like china that continues to be apart of of a very unfair process and very unfair trading practices. john. >> thanks a lot sarah. there was reaction to the president's tweets today from some of his allies on capitol hill. republican senator hatch says i don't get what he's trying to do and another senator says the mueller investigation needs to move forward and let them complete their work. >> it needs to be completed and not cut-off. >> we would like for it to be completed sooner than later. it has gone on for an extensive amount of time and they still come up with nothing regards to the president. we said it for a number of time. so we agree on that front. sylvia. >> we are tight on time because the president is going to be speaking. >> sorry, john. just because we are tight on time, i will try to get to as many as possible. >> even if there are ten people that are voting illegally, it should not happen. the president wants to see the integrity of our election system upheld and that's the purpose of his comment. he wants to make sure everybody that's voteing should be voting. it should be celebrated and not discriminated. [ inaudible question ] >> i never had to show an id when i go to the grocery store. >> if you go to a grocery store, if you buy beer and wine, you are going to certainly show your id. >> he's not saying every time he went in, he is saying when you go to the grocery store, i am sure everybody in here who's been to a grocery store that purchased beer or wine probably had to show their id. if they did not then there is a problem with the grocery store. >> major go ahead. >> you wanted the investigation to end and also without any obstruction meaning without any interference. many described the tweets this morning as blowing off steam. it is just an opinion that he's throwing out there and had nothing to do of his control of the -- >> the president is stating his opinion. it is crystal clear how he feels of this investigation from the beginning. >> sarah. >> you said a moment ago, the investigation itself is corrupt. the mueller investigation and you mentioned comey and mccabe and strzok. >> it was paid for by an opposing campaign and had a lot of corruption within the entity which was overseeing which was peter strzok and james comey and andr andrew mccabe, we laid it out a number of time. >> if it is corrupt, why diplomat the president just end it? >> the president is allowed this? >> the president has allowed this process to play out but he thinks it is time for it to come to an end >> sarah, go ahead. >> thank you, sarah. >> i want wondering if you can clarify this tweet from this morning. is it the president's desire for sessions to unrecuse himself in the probe and is it his desire for the special counsel to be fired. >> i think i have clarified this ten times. it is the president's opinion, i don't have anything further. steve. >> last night at the rally, the president again pushed for creation of a space force of a new military branch. the defense department missed the deadline, we are told that the white house twice rejected drafts because of the defense department does not want a space force. how is the president going to force the creation of a space force? >> we are continuing to work with the department of defense to figure out and determine the best way forward, something that the president feels strongly about and we'll work with our team there and figure out the best solution. >> i have a question about the president meeting with inner city pastors. secretary carlson have pushed policies raised on poor people and antiimmigration initiatives. what is the president going to say to these inner city pastors who may be hurt with these policies. >> hearing their concerns. i know the primary point of discussion for today is to discuss prison reform. i would not be surprised if they raise those issues. that's why the president invited them here so he could have those ongoing conversations and determine the best. >> i am sor practicalthose poli on people, are they helping inner cities? >> i would have to look at the cities, i would be happy to do that after the briefing. >> i am told it is under discussion for cuts as low as 25,000 next year. does the president feel that this country admits too many refugees and what is the proper level is and what is the rational - >> this is part an ongoing discussion and no policy decisions have been made but we'll keep you posted. >> i am sorry? >> does the president think there are too many refugees coming into the country. >> the president wants to make sure who comes to the country, who they are. they pose no danger or threats to tamericans. we want to make sure we have the processes in place and the ability to vet any individual that would come into this country if the department of homeland security and other agencies that they would work in coordination with, determine that they don't have the ability to vet a certain number then certainly the president would have concerns with that. the number one priority is national security and making sure we have the ability to properly vet and process any individuals that come into this country. >> jeff. >> sarah, you said the president wants this investigation to be completed. he has not made the decision to sit down with bob mueller. is he apart of dragging this out? when he tells you something personally, do you take it as a directive or as his opinion? >> on the first part, i would refer you to the president's outside counsel and the second part, sorry -- >> when he tells you something as a member of the staff, how do you know if it is a directive or an opinion. >> the president makes it clear when i am having the conversation with him. >> the tweet this morning said that he wanted to -- it is time for the investigation to be stopped. >> did the president know that the president can't stop the investigation? >> the president is aware of how the process works. he's stating his opinion once again. >> david. >> has he spoken to the nra about this? >> the department of justice made a deal without the president's approval. the president is glad this effort is delayed to give more time to reveal the issue. >> steve. >> the case of the pastor in turkey. >> are you talking about the i am practiisonment of pastor bru? >> is he upset about it? >> i think you can see in the actions of the president has made today that he's not happy of turkey's decision not to release erdogan. >> does the president support the possibility of taxed, and te possibility of a shutdown, is the president talking about endorsing a government shutdown before november's elections, after november's elections, or both? >> on the first part of your question, this is something that has a lot of support from various people. no administration policy has been determined. the president asked the treasury department to look into it. on the second part of your question in regards to the shutdown, the president isn't focused on the timing of before or after the election. he is focused on the results. he has been talking about this for a year and a half. our immigration system is completely broken and he is begging and has been for congress, particularly democrats in congress, to step up, do their jobs, stop kicking the ball down the field, and actually work with him to fix our system. it's that simple. >> reporter: does the president have a personal opinion as to whether or not the current system works or should be changed? >> he asked the treasury department to look into it. david. >> reporter: thank you. last night in tampa, does the president encourage the support of people who showed up in these qanon and blacks for trump fringe groups? secondly, is the white house willing to say right now in view of what happened with one of our t.d. colleagues last night that it is wrong for his most vocal supporters to be menacing towards journalists doing their jobs? >> on the first part, the president condemns and denounces any group that would insight violence against another individual. certainly he doesn't support groups that would promote that type of behavior. we have been clear about that a number of times since the beginning of the administration. on the second part of your question, the president, as i just said, does not support violence against anyone or anything, and we have been very clear every single time we have been asked about that. when it comes to the media, the president does think that the media holds a responsibility. we fully support a free press, but there comes a high level of responsibility with that. the media routinely reports on classified information and government secrets that put lives in danger and risk valuable national security tools. this has happened in our administration and in past administrations. one of the worst cases was the reporting on the u.s. ability to listen to osama bin laden's satellite phone in the late '90s. he stopped using that phone and the country lost valuable intelligence. unfortunately, it's standard to abandon common sense ethical practices. we condemn violence against anybody, but we ask that people act responsibly and report accurately and fairly. >> sarah -- >>. >> reporter: they were trying to prevent a broadcaster from getting his broadcast out and yelling that his network sucks. is that right or wrong? >> what was the first part of your question? >> reporter: no one was being violent in terms of hitting anybody and no broadcaster was broadcasting state secrets. they were trying to do stand-ups at a public rally, and people were trying to yell over them preventing them from doing their jobs and yelling their network sucks on live tv. do you support that or not? >> we support freedom of the press and freedom of speech. we think that goes hand in hand. ayesha. >> reporter: talking about the tweets earlier, president trump tweeted about manafort and comparing his treatment to that of capone. he seems to be saying being treated unfairly. does the president feel like paul manafort is being treated unfairly? when he talked about this issue of solitary confinement and the fact that manafort hasn't been convicted yet, does this administration have a larger concern about solitary confinement being used for people who haven't been convicted outside of paul manafort? >> i am not aware of a specific policy position that the administration holds on that front. certainly the president's been clear. he thinks paul manafort has been treated unfairly. steve. >> reporter: i'll take it. two questions. can you confirm if the president has accepted the invitation from the prime minister to be the special guest? >> i know that the invitation has been extended. i don't believe a final decision has been made. i do know that both secretary mattis and secretary pompeo will be traveling to india, i believe it's next month, and will begin the dialogue and the process and potential discussion for a presidential visit later in the year. >> reporter: a historic election, and mr. kahn, he ran on a corruption election in pakistan. he had very little to say good things about india, u.s., but he is the prime minister of pakistan today. how you are going to deal with him? >> the united states -- >> reporter: u.s./pakistan relations? >> certainly the united states and india have a deep and abiding strategic partnership and we are going to continue to build on that partnership and advanced cooperation. i think you will see that at the meeting that will take place with secretaries pompeo and mattis next month. >> reporter: does the president believe paul manafort is innocent of the charges he faces? >> i don't believe that's the president's role to play. he believes he is being treated unfairly. >> reporter: the views of the president saying that attorney general jeff sessions should stopped this rigged witch hunt right now. has the president said that directly to jeff sessions at any point? >> i am not aware of the president state his opinion. one last question. >> reporter: at any point to rod rosenstein? >> not that i am aware of. >> reporter: a to a t on to that. it's his opinion that the mueller probe should play itself out? >> the president believes that he's watched this process, frankly, play out. he'd like to see it come to a conclusion since it's been going on for the better part of a year and a half and they have found no collusion between the president, as he said many, many times before. the president has an event in a couple of minutes. >> reporter: you said the president believes he can fire mueller. so doesn't it look weak on twitter for him to say sessions should end this probe when it's rosenstein that could end the probe and the president believes he can end the probe? >> it's not weak for the president of the united states to state his opinion. thanks so much, guys. >> i want to bring in msnbc justice and security analyst matthew miller and "the washington post's" aaron blake. they are still with me. let's talk through a little bit of what we just saw there. this was a chance to ask the white house questions about the president's tweets this morning. sarah sanders said the tweet about bob mueller. >> is /* is an opinion. the president is not obstructing, she said. he is fighting back. she said most of america is angry about this. she also said that she defended -- we were going the viewers before we went into that live a clip of the president saying you have to get carded to -- you have to show an i.d. to buy groceries. she said he was talking about buying beer and wine. just goat that to get that on t >> she is arguing this tweet in itself wasn't a criminal act because he was expressing an opinion, not issuing an order. maybe. maybe not. i think it will depend how that tweet is interpreted what he means by should, whether that is interpreted as -- usually a cabinet officer hears a president say you should do something, you interpret that as an order. it could still be powerful evidence of the president's criminality when taken together with everything else he's done to interfere with this investigation and try to get it stopped. i think that's what the special prosecutor is probably looking at. >> the most interesting sentence in that briefing was when she said the president is not obstructing, he is fighting back. this is actually something that the president has said before, both in an interview in january and in a tweet in april. that's also something that, by the way, could be used as evidence of obstruction. they are leaning into this. they want this fight. they want people to react to what the president is saying. they don't seem to be afraid that these things are being taken as evidence. when you say fighting back, that's the white house saying here that these actions are being taken on the president's behalf. that's not him making sure that this investigation is clean and that we have a good government. that's him saying this is about me, i'm fighting back personally in this investigation. so the fact that they would put that forward in light of this controversy, i think, is really interesting. >> that really is, matt, kind of the whole strategy that the president's legal team is employing. they are quote/unquote fighting back to destroy the credibility with the president's supporters? >> there are ways to fight back against a criminal investigation that are appropriate. i should say that are not criminal behavior. whether the president does it or not -- the president doing it is different than any other subject of an investigation doing it because he has a responsibility for the justice department as head of the executive branch. i think that -- let's talk about paul manafort for example. he is on trial right now for tax fraud and bank fraud. also under indictment for obstruction of justice in d.c. for tampering with witnesses. i think paul manafort like a lot of other defendants would say what we're doing is just fighting back. doesn't mean it holds up in

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A recap of the day's news. love trump or whether you disdain him, i think everyone can collectively agree that his relationship with the truth -- there's a major disconnect. there was one report i saw said he told 2100 lies since office. another one said 3,000. another five a day. another ten a day. if you sit down with mueller, if they don't have obstruction, we don't know whether they do. he's tweeting. his state of mind is all over the place. he could say he fired comey. if they don't have obstruction and there is no collusion conspiracy, it's conspiracy, but the fact is you can get him on perjury. so why take the chance of going sitting with mueller no matter how smooth you think you are, no matter what you think you can say when you're going to get caught in a lie because you will lie because that's what this president does, period. >> harry, so far mueller hasn't moved on this demand that he wants trump to sit down in person. this negotiation has been going on since january that we know about. at what point does mueller tire of this and just say i'm going to subpoena the president? >> exactly. i mean, and we -- it's been since january, and maybe before. i'm a little surprised. i would have thought he would have said forget it. it's been silly that team trump has been acting as if it's got the leverage here and maybe they'll decide to sit down. as you say, the law is likely to be with mueller, and he can just go to court. now it gets a little tricky if he really is inclined to wrap things up before the midterms, probably even a quick process in the courts would extend past november. but -- so, look, i agree with joey. he's a liar, but the bigger problem here, i think, really goes to the substantive exposure for obstruction and the fact that mueller would have so much information that the president just doesn't have, and at this point, though, there's also the real possibility that he filed a report with the conclusion, looks to me, as if it's obstruction of justice. we gave the president many chances to come in and try to explain. he declined then. you can certainly charge without hearing from the defendant. that's the risk if trump stays quiet. >> i want to talk about the oligarchs. the attorney for the russian oligarch and pop star son to encouraged donald trump junior to hold the meeting says that conversations about a potential interview between his clients and special counsel robert mueller are ongoing and have been for almost a year. so why are these dplaoligarchs important to the special counsel's investigation? >> they're important because we all know and understand, and i think there's agreement with the exception of perhaps the president that there was interference. i think the dispute is whether there was some kind of collusion, excuse me, conspiracy, which is an agreement to commit an illegal act. i think everyone looking at this investigation, don, is looking and eyeing whether they could connect the dots. who is they? mueller's team. in order to connect dots as it relates to russian collusion and it relates to the trump administration trying to get information and working with the russians alongside of them collectively agreeing, defining collusion you need to have some people who might be knowledge ableas so that. if you get these people from the russian community who could talk to the meeting and could talk to the connection between the campaign and members of the russian government, you can establish that nexus and connection. so that's why they're central to mueller's investigation. >> harry, an attorney appeared on cnn a short while ago. take a listen to this. >> they never spoke to the president about the meeting before or after and they never heard anything, either before or after to even suggest the president was informed the meeting was going to happen. from their perspective, he learned about it when it came out in the press. it's been misrepresented. from my client's perspective, this was to talk about the magnitsky act. >> so that contradicts what michael cohen says. is an interview how mueller finds out who is telling the truth here? >> he wants the facts, and it's everything that joey said plus two really concrete points. they're instrumental in setting up the meeting. they're the supposed -- emin is the supposed client of gold stone who reaches out and they're in the thick of it for the 2013 miss universe pageant. but mueller wants to know who is lying and who is telling the truth. it is a little strange to me that interchange from the lawyer. they don't need to cooperate. they don't need to talk to him at all, and there have been some indication that emin was actually soured on trump, but that certainly seemed like an attempt to aid the president, and it would suggest that if they do talk he'll be telling a story that would be exculpatory and maybe of don junior as well, his old buddy. these are colorful characters but mueller in any event wants to hear from them. he wants to know the truth. >> thank you, harry. harry is here all the time. joey, not so much. i'm glad wolf blitzer showed you. >> nice to be here. >> thank you. come back. when we come back, the african american pastor who met with president trump at the white house and is now facing a backlash. i'm going to talk to him next. ♪ ♪ ♪ raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens ♪ ♪ bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens ♪ ♪ brown paper packages tied up with strings ♪ ♪ these are a few of my favorite things ♪ ♪ ♪ dinner date...meeting his parents dinner date. why did i want a crest 3d white smile? so i used crest. crest 3d white removes... ...95% of surface stains in just 3 days... ...for a whiter smile... that will win them over. crest. healthy, beautiful smiles for life. a south carolina pastor facing criticism over his visit to the white house yesterday. he says he attended the meeting to discuss prison reform. >> in a time of moral relativism and secular humanism it is refreshing to know that those of us who have committed our lives to fighting for people who cannot fight for themselves have a seat at the table to share our hearts nvm i'm grateful for you for allowing for the conversation. again, my prayers that you'll continue to have wisdom to lead this nation truly all of us are created equal. thank you for giving us an equal opportunity to fight for this nation and what it means to be an american. >> thank you. joining me now is pastor john gray from south carolina. you received some backlash. welcome. >> thank you. good evening. >> good to have you. you received some backlash. other people who were there were a bit more complimentary of the president, and got maybe in a bit more trouble than you. you were basically thanking him for the opportunity? >> yeah. but -- >> you told your congregation that you hesitated meeting with president trump. >> yes. >> why did you go? >> you want my honest answer. i believe the lord sent me. i don't represent -- and i didn't go as a partisan politician. while i respect the political process, i went because i believe that the lord wanted me in that room as a christian. the first thing is i don't get to impute my faith on anyone else. i think that is unfair. i think it's dishonorable to try to make someone see life through my lens, but i'm strong in the belief that i have a calling that's bigger than me. and walking into that room i risked everything i'd ever worked for. >> your members of the black christian community, you had to know they would be upset by you attending this. >> yeah. >> and there is a reason that you were sitting right next to the president. right? your credibility, your influence among the faith-based community. and there you are. other pastors -- i've had pastors who were on the president's board and they quit because they thought it was a photo op in one of the first meetings and didn't think he was going to do it or the administration, that it was interested in helping anyone except for getting a photo op. >> yeah. >> what do you think? did you expect the cameras to be there? >> no. when i first heard about this and was invited, i actually said i don't want to take pictures. i will go and listen and give my input, but i don't want to be photographed. and that was because i understood that certain parts of our community, the faith-based community and the african american community and rightfully so, have felt immeasurable pain. when you're dealing with an administration that at times has drawn moral equivalence to the unite the right rally, the people who organize the it and those who opposed it -- >> then why go and lend your credibility? there are other ways that you can participate that may be more influential than being seen on the same page with someone who many people -- most people of color in this country, black folks think his policies, his speech, his language, his behavior, all of that are detriment tall to african americans. you can help out in other ways other than sitting next to him and taking a picture. >> let me ask you this. you just invited me to your table. we don't know each other. we don't agree on everything, i'm sure if we had the conversation, but we're at the table for dialogue. the purpose of that conversation was to talk about prison reform. it was the expressed understanding that we were coming to see if churches could partner with the government to help lower recidivism rates and cyclical poverty based on people trying to reacclimate. that was the intention of the meeting. that's why i went. people like me and who look like me don't often get a chance coming out of prison to have a job that allows for them not to think about doing crime. the reason why this was important to me is because it affects people that do look like me. >> here's my question. i don't think you're understanding what i'm saying. you didn't have to come here. and if you didn't come here, i would respect that, and i would say that is and maybe there is a reason. we invited other people on. and this is my point. they did not think that it would be good for them to appear because they were concerned about losing something or their reputation or being called out on television or what have you. and i respect that. maybe they're correct. do you get what i'm saying? >> absolutely. let me answer that. why would i risk whatever credibility i've gained over years in ministry with a community that i've come from? why would i risk it? would it be for a photo op? i went because i believe i was sent. >> did you have to go to the white house? could you have done a conference call? could you have been on via television or camera? could you have teleconference or maybe a place other than the white house where you can discuss this? the question, the thing is that sitting there, all of these african americans sitting there, it is being seen as the president of the united states, this administration that has proposed policies that are so detrimental to african americans that they're using you as a prop and that it is a photo op and that -- >> but the photo op doesn't work. it backfires. the moment i'm on the platform, whatever they were hoping to accomplish with the intended audience backfires because they don't have credibility in that market in the first place with those people. for me the answer is simple. i went through every detail. why would i go? what could i possibly gain? which is nothing. my wife -- >> would you do it again? >> would i go back? if there were different circumstances, if i had assurances that we were going to meet about the intended conversation, yeah, i would go back. not because i agree. because this is what's important. alignment or even speaking does not mean agreement. dialogue does not mean agreement. sitting at the table doesn't mean agreement. that's important. i don't agree with many of the policies but it doesn't stop me from having conversation. >> okay. i know we've gone on long. sorry, producers. this is what you put on your instagram page. you said lord, do you want me in that room? my first mind was no. the pain of so many is too real. the hurt, the isolation, the real hate that has bubbled to the surface of the national discourse. do you think this president is responsible for hate in the nation's discourse now? >> i believe that our president has fostered a culture and climate that has allowed for what was there and has been there for years to bubble up. it has empowered people in a horrific way. absolutely. i don't think there's any question about it. and if you're looking for someone who is a fan of the administration or a boy for the administration, that not me. i am a man of god. my faith guides me. i very well may lose credibility with whoever. but the people that know my heart know this. i am determined to honor what i believe is the calling on my life. there's nothing for me to gain from being there. but i am committed to fighting for people who cannot fight for themselves. and if i began to cower to people who don't agree -- because a lot of the people who don't agree to me don't share my faith. there are times when people who have faith speak to leaders who don't subscribe or agree or even align with that. for me it wasn't about being seen. that did nothing for me. >> and let me say this to you. i spoke to someone who i really respect today, and talking about faith. look, i'm a person of faith. he said there is a reason that people would teach you about the bible, would let you congregate on the plantation but would not allow you to read. do you understand the meaning of that? >> absolutely. >> it means they believe that religion keeps people in chains and that fighting back and saying i'm not going to deal with this, turning the other cheek, because they don't want you to leave the plantation. >> well, i was never on the plantation. >> what i'm saying is because people keep overlooking so much. overlooking when it comes to women. overlooking what it gates abo s about gays or muslims. about everything. >> absolutely. >> there's so much they keep overlooking. evangelicals, all these things, affairs, adultery, all those things and -- because what? at what cost? at what price? >> i think that's the key. i wasn't on the presidential evangelical advisory board. what you said is valid. i can only speak for me. with everything that i could have lost and could still lose, i believe that my voice was necessary because i was there for people who could not fight for themselves. that was my intention in my heart. >> thank you. we've gone really long. all i'm saying is turn the other cheek is fine but sometimes you just get bruised and swollen. at some point you say enough is enough. >> thank you. >> i appreciate you joining us. while the president is distracting and deflecting with complaints about the media, his administration is chipping away at obama care and how it could affect you is next. this is the ocean. just listen. 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well, you get what you pay for. and these plans, they don't pay for much. here we go. one anl si shows that only 57% of the plans cover mental health care. 38% cover substance abuse treatment and none of them, zero%, cover maternity care. you probably won't be able to buy them if you have a preexisting condition. and if you buy this insurance and need to use it, watch out. there are limits on how much your plan will pay. some plans don't cover immunizations or even injuries from playing organized sports. there's even a plan in illinois that doesn't cover hospital stays that begin on weekends. not surprisingly doctors and advocates don't approve. according to "the los angeles times" a whopping 98 % of groups who weighed in to were critical or opposed. but the administration and a lot of insurers are eager to sell the plans. the president boasting about chipping away at obama care. >> you know how many people have come up to me and said thank you very much for getting rid of the individual mandate? sounds so nice. isn't it a beautiful term? the individual mandate is wonderful. i'm acting presidential now. the individual mandate. the individual mandate is a disaster. it sounds good. like the affordable care act was not affordable. >> so now the administration is out with trump care. will americans like what is in the fine print? let's discuss now. cnn's senior economic analyst. good evening. thank you so much. jason, what is the likelihood people will choose these plans based on cost and bay the price later when they get sick or need the coverage? >> that's the whole idea here, don. it's basically a scam. it's a piece of paper. it's not insurance coverage. folks will say, well, this i can pay for it. it costs less and then they walk around with a piece of paper that doesn't give them access to a doctor. when i was in the army we had a saying. checking box is one of the worst forms of lying. what it means is that if you pretend to solve a problem in some ways that can be worse than doing nothing. if you pretended to solve the problem, then people walk around thinking the problem is solved but it's still there. that's what the trump administration is trying to do. they want to pretend they did something -- for instance, in kansas city there's pressure on emergency services because we didn't expand medicaid. a lot of people use the emergency room and don't have health care. that's a problem. but they're pretending to solve it. in a lot of ways that checking the box is more dangerous than doing nothing. >> steven, democrats call this junk insurance. among the shortcomings, they don't cover preexisting conditions. doesn't that leave out an enormous pool of people who won't be able to get coverage? >> well, look, what you and jason have been talking about actually would apply to obama care. jason, every promise that was made under obama care has turned out to have been a lie. >> preexisting conditions? >> i'm talking about the fact that everyone would be covered. there's still 25 to 30 million people without health insurance. that's the group of people that were trying to get insurance for -- we're trying to get insurance for. why are so many people looking at the cheaper plans? because the cost of obama care plans has doubled. it's ironic this is called the affordable care act. for so many millions of americans, health care is not more affordable. you guys remember when barack obama was campaigning on obama care. remember, he said it was going to save the average family $2500 a year, and now we have a situation where for the average family the cost of health care has almost doubled in most states. what we're looking at is trying to provide -- look, we all want to provide more coverage for people. and it seems like what you all are saying is unless this is a gold-plated health plan, it would be better for -- >> i'm just reading the stats. i'm giving facts. jason is here as the democracy person. maybe the facts don't line up the way you don't want them. that doesn't mean i'm espousing or supporting anything. those are the facts. >> the reason -- >> hold on. steven, but also you spout out statistics about what's costing more, but also there are people out there and insurers and big medical companies who are refusing to join this plan because they want to keep their profits and so getting rid of the individual mandate and all those things, that is causing the markets to collapse or obama care -- >> wait a minute. let me -- >> that's a big part of it. >> the -- the obama care system was in a spiral two years before donald trump -- >> that's not true. >> yes, it was. >> i don't want to talk about the merits of the system. >> it's not affordable for people. that's why people want the lower cost plans. they can't afford obama care. >> don, i never get -- >> hold on. hold on. >> okay. go ahead. >> we get sidetracked. i want to talk about the merits of this program. by the way, all the facts show that what you said is false. that obama care wasn't a death spiral. that's a republican talking point. >> the costs have doubled. that's true. >> go on, jason. >> let's talk about this policy. >> let's talk about this health care, don. but if we're going to do that and if stephen is going to say a bunch of stuff that's not true and predend the problems -- pretend the problems weren't caused by stuff the republicans did on purpose, if we're going to do that, i would prefer that he tamand the other people are honest about what they want. they want to go back to 2009. when insurance companies were in charge and preexisting conditions were a reason not to give you health insurance. they want to go back to when you thought you were covered for something and weren't and then you got sick and got dropped. i would prefer that they make an argument for what they're for rarter than pretending if they're for something else. if we're going to have a debate, why don't they stand up and say what they're for? >> stephen, i'll give you the last word. >> unfortunately health insurance is so expensive right now. people can't afford the plans that were supposed to be more affordable. what we are trying to offer people is plans that they can afford. now, they're not going to cover for everything that obama care requires coverage for, but if -- my point is wouldn't a plan that provides you with some basic coverage be better than no health insurance at all? i guess you guys say it would be better if people don't have health insurance at all. >> okay. that's got to be it. wasn't that the whole idea of obama care. >> but it doesn't do it. people can't afford it. >> but you're not telling the viewer -- you're just selling a part of it that fits your narrative. you're not telling people why it's not affordable. that's what you're not telling. >> he thinks it's fine if people can't get health insurance because they got sick. >> i'm not saving $2500 a year on my health insurance. everybody raise your hand if you are. i don't think many people are. >> thank you. we'll be right back. noooooo... quick, the quicker picker upper! bounty picks up messes quicker and is 2x more absorbent. bounty, the quicker picker upper. dinner date...meeting his parents dinner date. why did i want a crest 3d white smile? 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the national socialist german working party was built on the belief that aaron germans were -- jewish people were responsible for the problems facing germany and that belief spiralled into the government-run genocide against jews known as the holocaust. democracy party platform? >> the essence of naziism is dehumanization. what political party in this era is doing more dehumanization of vulnerable groups? is it the democrats comparing mexicans to insects who are infesting the country? are they involved on a large scale campaign to make people hate and associate latinos with criminals? no. it's the republican party. if you're going to make this analogy at all, the dehuman nati ization is coming from the trump administration. >> look at this moment again. >> jews will not replace it. jews will not replace us. >> so trump went onto blame both sides after the rally. how does any supporter of this president defend this propaganda? >> yeah. it's not the -- it's not what i would choose to attack the democrat platform. there's enough to attack them on without resorting to call people a nazi. of course, if i had a nickel for every time i heard someone on the american left call republicans donald trump or even the president that i work for, george w. bush a nazi, i'd be a rich man. we're all americans and we're all in this together. >> it's the president's son. this is different because it's the president's son. >> i agree. i don't like it. i don't want anybody to call people nazis. >> you're comparing an average citizen -- it's all awful, but you're comparing an average citizen without a platform that's not talked about on the news to the president's son, the sitting president's son comparing a democratic platform to naziism. that's different. that's false equivalents there. i had to tell you that. >> of course it is. >> i don't know what you want me to say. i disagree with the rhetoric. i disagreed when peter says republicans are more nazi like than democrats. i -- let tara get in here. >> look. i'm no fan of the democratic platform. i haven't been for years. it's why i'm a conservative republican. however, for the president's son to throw out that the democratic platform is similar to nazi germany is absurd. it goes to show you he doesn't really understand history. first of all, it's like projection. because if you read through the 25 point plan of the nazi party back then and the things, there's a lot in there that's awfully reminiscent to some of the things donald trump has actually advocated for. i mean, the whole idea of the tribalism and nationalism and what steve bannon and those guys were perpetuating during the election, that's a lot closer to the nazi platform than what democrats are asking for today. and the idea of the press being called the enemy of the people. it was hitler who called the press, the lying press. that's a nazi propaganda rhetoric the president is using. i'm using the example based off of what the president's own son and what the president has done. if you really want to get into let's compare things to nazi germany, there's a lot more going on with what's coming out of trump's mouth and out of his son's mouth and his supporters like what we saw than anything the democrats are proposing. i'm no fan of what the democratic platform is. >> scott and peter will respond on the other side of the break. 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clinton and don, jr. among others. and there is more. a federal judge is forcing a long-time aide to trump advisor roger stone to turnover documents and testify before a grand jury hearing, hearing evidence in the mueller investigation. stone sought damaging information about hillary clinton from wikileaks, the website which published thousands of hacked democratic e-mails, e-mails stolen by russian hackerses, hackers the trump justice department identified as agents of the russian government. there are also new developments in the trial of the president's former campaign manager, paul manafort's bookkeeper testifying that her boss was effectively broke and lying to banks about his precarious financial situation after losing his biggest client, which is the pro-russian former ukrainian president. and that was right about the same time that manafort started working for the trump campaign. the bookkeeper also testified that she knew nothing of foreign accounts controlled by manafort. that poses a problem for manafort since yesterday car dealers and contractors said they were paid almost exclusively from foreign accounts linked to cyprus. now, in the middle of all of this, the president still says he wants to sit down for an interview with mueller and clear everything up while his lawyers warn that would be a very bad idea. former trump campaign manager corey lewandowski telling our very orrin erin burnett a short time ago he hasn't spoken with trump but would advise against a sit-down with mueller. well, that is a curious claim since cnn reported that lewandowski joined the president aboard air force one just last night after his florida rally. also on that flight, trump 2020 campaign manager brad par scand parscal who said trump should fire mueller to bring the probe to an end. lots to discuss. former u.s. attorney harry litman is here and cnn legal analyst joey jackson up on the late shift tonight. joining us. very sloppy, nondetail oriented, very hard to prepare kind of witness, very erratic, could blurt things out. but there's a deeper subtext here. i think that they're aware of, which is he's got real criminal vulnerability. this is not a question of what's the meaning of this. this is a question of a lot of details that would tend to show that he's guilty of obstruction of justice. mueller knows everything. trump doesn't know what mueller knows. and there would be all kinds of questions, even as he shaves his list of questions by 50% as he's offered to do, that would just be absolute hazards for trump because mueller knows the answer, having talked with other people. so, i think that's the real problem here and i think this has been theatrical from the start. they haven't really intended to sit down. the real problem is he's got criminal exposure. and if he sits down with him and he lies, exposure for perjury, if he tells the truth exposure for the underlying crime. that's the biggest problem. >> so, joey, respond to that. he said he thinks it's theatrics. does trump want to sit down with mueller or is it to look that way in public? >> i believe it's very simple, don. good to see you. the reality to me is it's a farce. number one, i do not believe that he wants to sit down with mueller no matter what other people say. there's two schools of thought. one is that he is and his lawyers are holding him back but he really wants to speak to them. i think that's political cover. i see it far more simply than harry does. i think he doesn't want to sit down with him or his lawyers don't because, look, the president is truth challenged. we know that. the fact is that whether you love trump or whether you disdain him, i think everyone can collectively agree that his relationship with the truth, there is a major disconnect. if there was a report, one report i saw said he told 2100 lies since office, another one said 3,000, another one said 10 a day. if you sit down with mueller, if they don't have obstruction -- we don't know whether they do. he's tweeting, his state of mind is all over the place. he could say he fired comey. if there is no obstruction and there is no collusion, conspiracy, you want to argue collusion, it's conspiracy. the fact is you can get him on perjury. so why take the chance of going sitting with mueller no matter how smooth you think you are, no matter what you think you can say, when you're going to get caught in a lie because you will lie because that's what this president does. period. >> so, harry, so far mueller hasn't moved on this demand that he wants trump to sit down in person. this negotiation has been going on since january that we know about. at what point does mueller tire of this and just say, i'm going to subpoena the president? >> exactly. i mean, it's been since january and maybe before. i'm a little surprised. i would have thought he would have said, you know, forget it. it's been silly that team trump has been acting as if it's got the leverage here and maybe they'll decide to sit down. as you say, the law is likely to be with mueller and he can just go to court. now it gets a little tricky if he really is inclined to wrap things up before the midterms, probably even a quick process in the courts would extend past november. but, look, i agree with joey he's an inventor, liar. the big problem here i think really goes to the substantive exposure for obstruction and the fact that mueller would have so much information that the president just doesn't have. at this point, though, there is also the real possibility that he would file a report with the at this investigation, don, is looking and eyeing whether they can connect the dots. who is they? mueller's team. and in order to connect dots as it relates to russian collusion and it relates to the trump administration trying to get information and working with the russians alongside of them, collectively agreeing, defining collusion, you need to have some people who might be knowledge as to that. and so, of course, if you get them and other members, people from the russian community who could talk to the meeting, who could talk to the connection between the campaign and members of the russian government, you can establish that nexus and connection. and so that's why they're central to mueller's investigation. >> so, harry, the aguilaravs attorney appeared a short while ago. listen to this. >> they never spoke to the president before or after, or to suggest the president was informed the meeting was going to happen. from their perspective, they learned about it in the scope of cooperate. they don't need to talk to him at all and there had been some indication that amina was actually soured on trump. but that certainly seemed like an attempt to aid the president and it would suggest that if they do talk, he'll be telling a story that would be exculpatory and maybe of don junior as well, his buddy. these are colorful characters, but mueller, in any event, wants to hear from them. he wants to know the truth. >> yeah. thank you, harry. harry is here all the time. joey not so much. i'm glad wolf blitzer shared you, let you come on the show tonight. so -- >> nice to be here. >> thank you. thank you, come back. thank you all. when we come back, the african-american pastor who met with president trump at the white house and is now facing a backlash. i'm going to talk to him next. my digestive system used to make me feel sluggish. but those days are over. now, i take metamucil every day. it naturally traps and removes A recap of the day's news. you'll make my morning, buty the price ruin my day.ou? 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did you expect the cameras to be there? >> no. when i first heard about this and was invited, i actually said i don't want to take pictures. i will go, i will listen, i will give my input, but i don't want to be photographed. and that was because i understood that certain parts of our community, the faith-based community and the african-american community and rightfully so, have immeasurable pain when you're dealing with an administration that at times has drawn moral equivalency to the unite the right rally, the people who organized it and those who opposed it. that's -- >> so then why go there and lend your credibility to him? because there are other ways that you can participate that may be strategically smarter and more influential than being seen on the same page with someone who many people -- most people of color in this country, black folks, think that his policies, his speech, his language, behavior, all of that are detrimental to african americans. you can help out in other ways rather than sitting next to him and him having taken a picture. >> let me ask you this. you just invited me to your table. we don't know each other. we don't agree on everything. i'm sure if we had the conversation. but we're at this table for dialogue. the purpose of that conversation was to talk about prison reform. it was the express understanding that we were coming to see if churches could partner with the government to help lower recidivism rates and systemic poverty, cyclical poverty based on people who are trying to community that i've come from? why would i risk it? would it be for a photo op? >> that's what i ask you, why? >> i went because i believe i was sent. i believe that my faith -- >> did you have to go to the white house? could you have done a conference call? could you have been on, you know, via television or camera or could you have teleconference? or could you have maybe there could have been a place other than the white house where you can discuss this? did you -- the thing is that sitting there, all of these african americans sitting there, it is being seen as the president of the united states, this administration has proposed policies that are so detrimental to african americans that they are using you as a prop and using you -- hang on. they are using you as a prop and it is a photo op. >> the photo op doesn't work. it backfires. the moment i'm on that platform, whatever they were hoping to accomplish with their intended audience back fires because they don't have credibility in that market in the first place with those people. for me, the answer is very simple. i went through every detail, why would i go. what could i possibly gain, which is nothing. >> would you do it again? >> would i go back? if there were different circumstances, if i had assurances that we were going to meet about the intended conversation, yeah, i would go back. not because i agree, because this is what's important. alignment or even speaking does not mean agreement. dialogue does not mean agreement. sitting at the table does not mean agreement. and that's important. i don't agree with many of the policies, but it doesn't stop me from having conversation. >> okay, i know we've gone on long. sorry, producers. this is what you put on your instagram page. you said, lord, do you want me in that room? my first mind was no. the pain of so many is too real. the hurt, the isolation, the sense of disenfranchisement. the real hate that has bubbled to the surface of the national discourse. do you think the president is responsible for hate in the nation's discourse now? >> i believe that our president has fostered a culture and a climate that has allowed for what was there and has been there for years to bubble up. it has empowered people in a horrific way, absolutely. i don't think there is any question about that. and if you're looking for someone who is a fan of the administration or a boy for the administration, that's not me. i am a man of god. my faith guides me. i very well may lose credibility with whoever, but the people that know my heart know this. i am determined to honor what i believe is the calling on my life. there is nothing for me to gain from being there. but i am committed to fighting for people who cannot fight for themselves. and if i began to cower to people who don't agree -- because a lot of people don't agree with me don't share my faith. daniel spoke to nebuchednezzar. >> now you're preaching. >> people speak to leaders who don't agree or lineup with that. for me it wasn't about being seen. clearly that did nothing for me. i believe -- >> let me say this to you, and i spoke to someone who i really respect today and talking about faith. look, i am a person of faith. he said there is a reason that people would teach you about the bible, would let you congregate on the plantation, but would not allow you to read. do you understand the meaning of that? >> absolutely. >> it means they believe that religion keeps people in chains and that fighting back and saying, i'm not going to deal with this, turning the other cheek because they don't want you to leave the plantation. what do you say to that? >> he ri was never on the plantation. >> people keep overlooking so much, overlooking, you know, when it comes to women, overlooking what it says about gays, overlooking what it says about muslims, overlooking what it says -- just about every thing. >> absolutely. >> there is so much. you just keep overlooking. people of the faith-based community, evangelicals -- affairs, adultery, all of those things, what? at what cost, at what price? >> i think that's the key. i wasn't on the presidential evangelical advisory board. i think what you said are valid. i can only speak for me. with everything that i could have lost and could still lose, i believe that my voice was necessary because i was there for people who could not fight for themselves. that was my intention and my heart. >> thank you. we've gone really long. >> sorry. >> all i'm saying is turn the other cheek, fine. but if you keep turning you other cheek as all you do is get bruised and swollen. >> thank you. >> i really appreciate you joining us. when we come back, while the president is distracting and deflecting about hoaxes and talk about the media his administration is changing crucial policies. how they are chipping away at owe kbam a care a obamacare and how it could affect you. that's next. take prilosec otc and take control of heartburn. so you don't have to stash antacids here... here... or, here. kick your antacid habit with prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. man: are unpredictable crohn's symptoms following you everywhere? 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well, you get what you pay for. and these plans, they don't pay for much. so here we go. one analysis shows that only 57% of the plans cover mental health care. 38% cover substance abuse treatment. and none of them, zero percent, cover maternity care. you probably won't be able to buy them if you have a preexisting condition. and if you buy this insurance and then need to use it, watch out. there are limits on how much your plan will pay. some plans don't cover immunizations or even injuries from playing organized sports. there is even a plan in illinois that doesn't cover hospital stays that begin on weekends. not surprisingly, doctors and advocates don't approve. according to the los angeles times, a whopping 98% of groups that weighed in on the proposal to make short-term health plans more available were either critical or outright opposed. but the administration and a lot of insurers are eager to sell these plans. the president tonight boasting about chipping away at obamacare. >> you know how many people have come up to me and said, thank you very much for getting rid of the individual mandate? sounds so nice. isn't it a beautiful term? the individual mandate is wonderful. see, i think presidential now. the individual mandate. the individual mandate is a disaster. it sounds good, like the affordable care act, was not affordable. >> so now the administrationis out with trumpcare. will americans like what is in the fine print? so let's discuss now. cnn's senior economics analyst stephen moore and jason candor, democratic candidate for mayor of kansas city. good evening, gentlemen. thank you so much. jason, what is the likelihood people will choose these plans based on cost and pay the price later when they get sick or need the coverage? >> that's the whole idea here, don. it's basically a scam. it's a piece of paper. it's not insurance coverage. folks will say, well, this, i can pay for it, it costs a lot less. they walk around with a piece of paper that actually doesn't give them access to a doctor. when i was in the army we had this saying that we would use, which is the checking the box is one of the worst forms of lying. what it means is that if you pretend to solve a problem, in some ways that can be worse than doing nothing at all because if you pretended to solve the problem, then people walk around thinking the problem is solved, but it's still there. that's exactly what the trump administration is trying to do here. they want to pretend they did something about the fact that, for instance, here in kansas city we have huge pressure on emergency services because, you know, we didn't expand medicaid in the state so a lot of folks don't have health care. they end up using the emergency room. that's a real problem. but they're pretending to solve it. in a lot of ways that check in the box, that's more dangerous than if they were to do nothing. >> let's bring in steven now. democrats called this junk insurance. that's what they say, that's a quote, junk insurance among the shortcomings, they don't cover preexisting conditions. doesn't that leave out an enormous pool of people who won't be able to get coverage? >> well, look, what you and jason have been talking about actually would apply to obamacare. i mean, jason, every promise that was made under obamacare has turned out to have been a lie. >> preexisting conditions? >> well, i'm talking about the fact that everyone would be covered. there are still 25 to 30 million people who don't have health insurance. by the way, that's the group of people that were trying to get insurance for. but why are so many people looking at these cheaper plans? it's very simple, because the cost of obamacare plans has doubled over the last five years. so it is ironic that this lie is called the affordable care act because for so many millions of americans, health care is not more affordable. i mean, you guys remember when barack obama was campaigning on obamacare, remember he said it was going to save the average family $2,500 a year and now we have a situation where for the average family the cost of health care has almost doubled in most states. so what we're looking at is trying to provide -- look, we all want to provide more coverage for people and it seems like what you all are saying is unless this is a gold plated health plan, it would be better for somebody to not have health insurance at all. >> the stats, steven, i'm giving facts. jason is here as the democratic person. maybe the facts don't lineup the way you want them. that doesn't mean i'm espousing or supporting anything. those are the facts. but also -- hold on, hold on. hold on, hold on, steven. you spout out all of these statistics about what's costing more, but also there are people out there and insurers, right, and big medical companies who are refusing to join this plan because they want to keep their profits and so getting rid of the individual mandate and all of those things, that is causing the markets to collapse or obamacare to -- >> don -- >> that's a big part of it. >> the obamacare system was in a spiral two years before donald trump became president. >> that's not true. >> yes, it was. >> i want to talk about the -- i don't want -- >> it's not affordable for people that's why people want lower cost plans because they can't afford obamacare. >> i don't want to get off track -- hold on, hold on. >> okay, go ahead. >> we get side tracked with these things. i want to talk about the merits of this program. by the way, all the facts show that what you said is completely false. obamacare was in a death spiral. that is a republican talking point. that is absolutely not true. >> the cost doubled, don, that is absolutely true. >> go on, chris. let's talk about this policy. >> don, let's talk about this health care. if steven is going to sit there and say a bunch of stuff that's not true and pretend the problems that exist with obamacare, that a whole bunch of them weren't caused by stuff republicans did over the last few years on purpose, if we're going to do that i would prefer that he and the other people defending this trumpcare plan just be honest about what they want. what they want, don, is to go back to 2009. they want to go back to when insurance companies were in charge. they want to go back to when preexisting conditions were a reason not to give you health insurance. they want to go back to when you thought you were covered for something and you weren't and you got sick and got dropped. i would just prefer they actually make an argument for what they're for rather than pretending that they're for something else, rather than checking the box and just pretending all the time. if we're going to have a debate, why don't they stand up and say what they're for? because it's unpopular. >> i want to give you -- i'll give you the last word. go ahead, steven. >> unfortunately health insurance is so expensive right now, people can't afford the plans that were supposed to be more affordable under obamacare. what we are trying to offer people is plans that they can afford. now, they're not going to cover for everything that obamacare requires coverage for, but if you can't -- my point is wouldn't a plan that provides you with some basic coverage be better than no health insurance at all? and i guess you guys say it would be better if people don't have health insurance at all. >> that has to be it. wasn't that the whole idea of obamacare -- >> people can't afford it. that's the whole point. >> you're not telling the viewer -- you're just telling a part of it that fits your narrative. you're not telling people why it's not affordable. that's what you're not telling. >> he thinks it's fine if people can't get health insurance because they used to be sick. >> i'm not saving $2,500 a year on my health insurance. raise your hand if you are because i don't think many people are. >> thank you. we'll be right back. it was here. i couldn't catch my breath. it was the last song of the night. it felt like my heart was skipping beats. they said i had afib. what's afib? 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the national socialist german workers' party which was commonly referred to as the nazi party was built on dictator adolf hitler's belief that arian germans were superior to nonarian, particularly jewish people. ideology was built on the premise jewish people were responsible for the problems facing germany following world war i. and that belief eventually spiralled into the government-run genocide against the jews known as the holocaust. so, democratic party platform, is that what it is? >> what you said captures it, right? the essence of nazism is dee humanization. the dee humanization of vulnerable groups. which political party in this era is doing more dee humanization of vulnerable groups? is it the democrats comparing mexican immigrants as insects who are infesting the country? is it they who are basically involved in a large scale campaign making people hate and associate latinos with criminals? no, it's the republican party. if you're going to make this analogy, the dee humanization is coming from the trump's organization. >> this man is from a father who could not condemn the marching in charlottesville. i want you to watch it again. >> jews will not replace us. jews will not replace us. >> so trump went on the blame both sides, we know the whole thing after that rally. how is any supporter of this president defend this propaganda? >> yeah, it's not what i would choose to attack the democrat platform. lord knows there's enough to attack the democrats on without resorting to call people a nazi. of course, if i had a nickel for every time i heard someone on the american left like peter just did call republicans donald trump or even the president that i worked for, george w. bush a nazi, i guess i'd be a rich man. we ought to all stop calling each other nazis, because none of us are nazis. we're all americans -- >> scott, this is different because it's the president's son. >> i don't like it. i don't like it. i don't want anybody to call people nazi. >> but you're comparing the average citizen -- it's all awful, but you're comparing an average citizen who doesn't have a voice, doesn't have a platform, is not going to be talked about in the news to the president's son, the sitting president's son comparing a democratic platform to nazism. that's different. that's false equivalence there. i hate to tell you that. >> well, of course it is. >> i don't know what you want me to say. i disagree with the rhetoric. i disagreed with it just now when peter who does have a platform says republicans are more nazi like than democrats. i don't like any of this and i don't think most people want either party to be calling the other ones nazis. >> tara, go ahead. >> well, look. i'm no fan of the democratic platform. i haven't been for years, that's why i'm a conservative republican. however, for the president's son to throw out that the democratic platform is similar to nazi germany is absurd. it goes to show you that he doesn't really understand history. first of all, it's awful, it's like projection because if you read through the 25-point plan of the nazi party back then and the republic and all those things, there's a whole lot in there that unfortunately is awfully reminiscent to some of the things that donald trump has actually advocated for. i mean, the whole idea of the tribalism and the nationalism and what steve bannon and those guys were perpetuating during the election, that's a lot closer to the nazi platform than what democrats are asking for today. and not only that. the whole idea of the press being called the enemy of the people. my en, it was hitler who called the press the lugan press, the lying press. that is a freaking nazi propaganda rhetoric that the president of the united states is using from the bully pulpit every day. so the president should -- >> are you comparing people to nazis? >> i'm using the example based off of what the president's own son and what the president has done. if you really want to get into let's compare things to nazi germany, there's a whole hell of a lot more going on with what's coming out of trump's mouth and out of his son's mouth and some of his supporters like what we just saw that anything the democrats are proposing and i'm no fan of what the democratic platform is. >> scott and peter will respond on the other side of the break. this is not a bed. to keep you both comfortable. and snoring? how smart is that? smarter sleep. to help you lose your dad bod, train for that marathon, and wake up with the patience of a saint. the new sleep number 360 smart bed, from $999. smarter sleep will change your life. record on this or can no one contradict a family member of this president? >> i mean, i think people are free to speak their mind and i certainly am going to sit here and tell you that i don't like it when we resort to the tactics that the left resorts to, which is this stupid name calling that is not rooted in the historical record. i don't like it when we do what they do. but, you know, everyone is free to speak their mind and correct it if they want. i don't think it's going to put a stop to it unfortunately. we're having a panel tonight. i say i don't think anybody should do it and two people here call the republicans nazis. >> i didn't call -- >> it is completely broken. >> i didn't call republicans nazis. >> let me tell you -- >> bothful you did. >> let me explain, i'll explain. i believe there is a spectrum of dee humanization and percent conditional use based he on de-humanization. donald trump has moved us in america further in that direction by his continual equation of mexican immigrants with criminals and rapists and even insects and we see the bitter fruit of that in this brutal inhumane child separation policy. that is moving america in the direction that we don't want to go. not to where nazis are, but closer than we were before donald trump. that's what i believe. >> and i used the example of the propaganda that nazis used and the word donald trump is using that mirror exactly what the nazis use in their disinformation campaigns in the '30s and '40s. so, i mean, if we're going to go there, i used historical precedent. i mean, hitler did use the term lugen press which means lying press. that's exactly what trump is doing now, calling the press the enemy of the people is reminiscent of nazi propaganda. that's just historical fact. >> let me ask you a question here. how do you think -- let's just say that sasha and malia were grown and working for the obamas as president and said and called republicans nazis, or maybe a better example would be chelsea clinton doing the same thing as she was working for her mother if her mother was the president of the united states. or when her father was president. what do you think would happen on the right, scott? >> people would go crazy about it and that's why it's wrong. i mean, i don't know how -- >> no one is going crazy about it. >> it is wrong for one party -- >> no one is going crazy about it. no one has come out and said anything. you are a contributor here on cnn. >> you know why no one is going crazy about it? because our civil discourse has gotten so far off the rails that everybody jannes about this stuf -- yawns about this stuff. that's the problem with american political discourse. it is so off the rails, calling each other nazis is so out of bounds. >> the president of the united states sets the tone. it wasn't off the rail like this in other presidencies. it wasn't. it starts from the top. >> sure it was. do you know how many times i had to endure people calling george w. bush a nazi? >> it was not coming from the president of the united states. have you watched the trump rally lately? >> george w. bush said nothing like what donald trump says. in fact, the number of -- >> he was still called a nazi. yet they still called -- >> who called him a nazi? but scott, scott, let's give you the point. let's say people did call george w. bush a nazi. >> they did, that's true. >> who did it? was it a sitting president's son or daughter or family member? >> no. >> it was some of the most wealthy financiers of the democratic party. george soros did it, keith ellison did it. compared 9/11 to the reich -- >> i think you're missing the point. we're talking about how presidents talk and presidents behave. donald trump is totally unlike barack obama or george w. bush in that regard. >> all right. i have to go. thanks for watching. our coverage continues. control of heartburn. prilosee so you don't have to stash antacids here... here... or, here. kick your antacid habit with prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. your mornings were made for better things than psoriatic arthritis. as you and your rheumatologist consider treatments, ask if xeljanz xr is right for you. xeljanz xr is a once-daily pill for psoriatic arthritis. taken with methotrexate or similar medicines, it can reduce joint pain, swelling, and significantly improve physical function. xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections, lymphoma, and other cancers have happened. don't start xeljanz xr if you have an infection. tears in the stomach or intestines, low blood cell counts, and higher liver tests and cholesterol levels have happened. your doctor should perform blood tests before you start and while taking xeljanz xr, and monitor certain liver tests. tell your doctor if you were in a region where fungal infections are common, and if you have had tb, hepatitis b or c, or are prone to infections. xeljanz xr can reduce the symptoms of psoriatic arthritis. don't let another morning go by without talking to your rheumatologist about xeljanz xr. withouoh, look...o your rheumatologist another anti-wrinkle cream in no hurry to make anything happen. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair® works in just one week. with the fastest retinol formula available. it's clinically proven to work on fine lines and wrinkles. one week? 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Laura Ingraham shines a spotlight on everyday Americans and examines how their lives are affected by politics at the federal, state and local level. hispanic unemployment, which is so important in my state, is at a low of 4.5. the lowest ever under president obama was 5.4. kids that dropped out of high school, the record fell 5.1%. how great is that undeployment? i don't understand why they would not root for the success of america because when you do it's rooting for the success of all of us. >> i want to a sound bite for you about what democrats are missing. let's watch. >> their message to me and the five and a half million americans who are demanding donald trump's impeachment is that it's bad politics, it's off message, and it will galvanize the republicans. not a single person in the senate democratic caucus has shown the common sense or the sense of right and wrong to support impeach him. not one. >> is that what the democrats need to rally around? impeachment. >> no, it won't turn people out to the polls. it does drive a lot of emotions, but to run complete campaign platforms on dumping trump is not going to speak to the heart of the voters. when people start believing that just because someone supported someone else prior to and think you're going to be able to talk on talking points. you have to be able to speak about what you're for, and that's what the party is missing. >> i think today the number i saw was the african-american approval rating, i believe it's correct daily, is about 29%. a couple of months ago i believe it was at 15%. if donald trump can move the african-american opinion and turn out african-american voters, even if he moves it 5%, that will be a significant plus for the republicans and i think it would be good for everyone. the idea is just because you're one skin color you have to vote for one party, that doesn't make any sense, given how great the news are for african-americans. the issue of impeachment. there's a lot of net roots enthusiasm for pushing the i word. >> they're just trying to inflame emotions. i was just here in tampa with the president. i watched him and i watched ivanka. no one mentions that he just gave $1 billion in grants. he signed that into law. $1 billion for stem jobs. who does that help? minorities, that helps everyone in this country. >> how will they be able to pay that back. i just hope we're going to pay that back. both of you stay right there because i want to bring in howie. howie, i mentioned at the top the disconnect between the far left and everyday americans. there's this one crazy moment today of many crazy moments in television. it seems like they've moved from invoking hitler as far as trump goes to now invoking another famous dictator. let's watch. >> it's simply a stalinist phrase for god's sake, to declare that a free press is the enemy of the people. it's in their self-interest to stop playing this totalitarian card. >> tonight i'm obsessed with president trump's repeated stalin-era assertion. >> stalin. is this working the stalin, hitler -- >> i guess the hitler thing wasn't polling well so they brought in stalin. i also think the president shouldn't refer to fake news. but the coverage is so one-sided. when they use the stalin analogy, when they call president trump unhinged, mentally unfit, they are lowering the discourse in precisely the way they accuse the president who they detest. >> 20 to 25 million killed under stalin, an additional 40 million killed often linked to him. many millions sent to concentration camps all sorts of other atrocitieatrocities. it's just patently ridiculous. a number of figures in the media were doing their best, and it's unbelievable given the news, to kind of downplay what's happening on the economy. i want all of you to react. let's watch. >> 157,000, which is somewhat healthy but also disappointing. >> this is not the strongest gain we've seen. just 2.7% year over year. this is a big problem for american workers. >> a big problem for american workers. i want to go to you, pam. it's 2.7 year to year. it was flat under obama. we hadn't seen a median wage increase for i think 18 years. and it's tough. but this is good news and this is after revising numbers in may and june upward. they had to go back and revise those job numbers upward. so that was good news. they believed the number was bad for this month because of the toys"r"us. they lost a lot of jobs in retail. so that did not help. does this seem transparent to you as it does to me? >> yeah, it does. i like the term fake news because that's what we're hearing and seeing every day. . our economy has very strong footing right now. consumer spending is going up. as a prosecutor, the more unemployed, i feel the fewer people committing crimes. it's great for our country. i do believe in the term fake news. yes, it's extremely transparent. when they have nothing to go on, that's what they go on, referring to our great president as hitler and stalin is unpatriotic and horrible. >> and this gal was on with jason miracle on cnn. and they were discussing president trump and whether he was everyone's president or just certain people's president. let's watch. >> i'm calling this process, this procedure is absolutely based on by bigotry and fear mongering. if you don't understanding that your president -- >> my president? he's our president. >> not mine. i would never claim a bigot ever. >> do you like that approach to politics? i don't think i ever would dream of saying that. i definitely did not say that when president obama was president. he won the presidency and he was an amazing campaigner and communicator. and i never took that away from him. but that's common on the left now. he's not our president. >> saying he's not our president doesn't make it the reality. the reality is he's the president of the united states. as an employer who actually signed the front of the check in orlando, florida, i wish we would have had the economy we had to stop me from closing my business in 2012. it was people who were second-chance citizens who wanted to be put to work. we also put out individuals who were on probation, a lot of women who were in shelters at the time. those are the stories that we don't hear about. those are the stories that it affects. not only small business, but particularly african-american business that is went back into the community to do the hiring that corporate america cannot. african-american, which the democrat party still has yet to address. which is why there was an apology tour over the last two months apologizing to black women. >> you're going to want to see a segment we do later about prison reform. they tried this about a year ago with donald trump, that he's in declining mental capacity. and this is what a host on msnbc said this morning. >> the dangerous, blustering bigot on the stage right now is even more boorish and less connected to reality than he was ten years ago. donald trump is not well, and everyone close to him says it. >> i think all those adjectives don't help the left's position. i understand pundits going after trump on immigration and putin. it seems to me to be journalists almost rooting for a bad economy. and the worst thing is when some of these journalists and commentators go after trump voters. they're yahoos. i mean, that kind of hatred, they are smearing millions of americans for voting for trump. >> they don't understand that's why they voted for trump, because they know that those folks looked down on them and trump didn't. >> condescending elite institutions. >> the forgotten man and woman. that's why he referenced it. fantastic panel, all of you. thanks so much for joining us tonight. why would a former cia moscow chief say they're doing putin bidding? ♪ speculate without facts. in klapper's case, that the kremlin's interference swung the election to trump. joining us now with reaction is the real clear investigations reporter who wrote that piece. we're also joined by former cia ops officer. lee, let's start with you. why is this news? it seems that a lot of conservatives have seen what happened to brennan and to a lesser extent klapper. they think they're hurting the intel, but what else did you find? >> one of the key things is that the american public is losing their confidence right now when they see former intelligence chief like brennan and klapper get on tv and tear into the president. it also enhances the idea, encourages the idea, as president trump has said, that these guys were up to no good, that brennan and klapper, and others were up to no good. >> and there's a couple of moments of the last month or so that really jumped out at me, where the criticism of the president was particularly nasty. and this involved both klapper and brennan. let's watch. >> mr. trump is not sophisticated enough unfortunately to deal with these foreign leaders in a manner that is going to protect u.s. national security weekend. >> this past weekend is what a great case officer putin is. he knows how to handle as asset, and that's what he's doing with the president. >> for klapper to say that the president of the united states is an asset to vladimir putin, what about that? >> yes, i mean, how can you look at these people and not view them as partisan? and that gets to lee's piece, which is you go back and look through the history of cia directors, you might not agree with all of their policies, they might have had some critical words after they got out of office for a president here or there on a serious policy question. but these were serious cia directors who know how important it is to continue to allow americans to have confidence in the cia and its assessment they're destroying that. and it's why you have the fbi officials who privately confess so much concern about comey too and his comments since leaving office. >> mike, the president has hit back hard. when he does hit back, he's criticized for himself tarnishing the reputation of the intelligence agencies and hurting their credibility. this is back on july 17th, what the president said. let's watch. >> president obama, along with brennan and klapper and the whole group that you see on television now, probably getting paid a lot of money by you networks, they knew about russia's attempt to interfere in the election in september and they totally buried it. >> he's basically saying they did nothing. if hillary won, with what would they have done? is the president wise to speak in those terms about the intel agencies or at least the past directors? >> i think we're in a different world here. i would like to see the president more circumspect, but that's not going to happen. i would like to see brennan and klapper and others just do what traditionally has been done, which is keep your yap shut and hold your own counsel. look, brennan and the others have a right to say whatever they want to say. they've got that right. and clearly they're exercising it. they don't have a right to a security clearance. and that is one action that the president is currently considering is yanking those security clearances. those remain with them as a courtesy. not just brennan but anyone coming out of a senior position. and frankly we should be overhauling the clearance process regard let's. but i think to lee's point in this article that you started with, yes, it is true that by talking the way that john brennan is talking and talking the way that klapper is discussing, in a sense they're furthering the russian objective, which is essentially and always has been over decades to sow discord and doubt and confusion. and when you have someone with that senior position come out and just speculate, as they are speculate. they have access to that information at this point in the game. it does serve to the russian objective. >> that does make the russians happy. they're a fraction of what they once were. their economy is dwarfed by china. this gives them a sense of, oh, look the whole country is locked down in a conversation about putin. >> our former intelligence directors are saying thing. putin is a master case officer and look at how he's handling trump. what more could he ask for, praising putin how he's handling the president, which is nonsense by the way. it's ridiculous. >> lee, yesterday we had five top officials, national security intel officials come out in the briefing room, this big show of force to restate that russia did try to meddle, is continuing to try to interfere in our electoral politics, made this big show. and i thought maybe the media would say, well, okay, this is for real now. but instead the reaction was quite different. let's watch. >> the tale of two white houses, where you know where the election is real and one where the opposite seems true. for some it's going to take more than one surprise briefing to convince them that what we heard today about cracking down on russia has the full backing of the president. >> that's just a pr stunt. >> well, keep this in mind, laura. anything the trump administration is doing to combat russia and its interference in our election is ten times more than the obama administration did during their tenu tenure. remember, we didn't find out about this until after the fact. and there has been very critical reporting about how little this was taken seriously, at least not until the very end, and how little was done to proactively warn candidates out there. in fact, they were kept in the dark so they couldn't try to stop this from within their own campaigns. when you have this many intelligence officials out there making the claim, you clearly have people within the cia that having seen what happened in 2016 are very much on the case, the media can choose to ignore that if they want, but the proof is in what's actually happening. >> all i can say is they literally can do nothing right in the media's eyes. there is nothing they can do. donald trump could have smacked putin in the face and it still wouldn't have been enough for the media. great to have you on tonight. and a viral dance craze prompting serious warnings from police across the country. and how the me too movement may be ruining the viewing of classic films. from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? 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>> if you play your cards right, i'll send you a version of me taking up the "in my feelings" challenge. a comedian recorded himself in the street dancing to the drakes tune. and it's just you dance along to the drake song. well, then celebs took it up like will smith. watch this. >> that's a good dancer. >> will smith got on the top of a paris landmark and started dancing along. and then, natural, which happens on the internet, everybody and their grandmother quite literally got in on the act. they started jumping out of cars. look at them. breaking legs, major fractures. fines are being imposed in georgia, egypt, all over the world. >> how did it go to jumping out of cars? >> they decided we're not going to only do it on the street. we're going to do it out of a moving vehicle. i have to show you this one. it's so sad it's funny. this one guy starts to do this and he starts the move. you'll see what happens here. this is unbelievable. >> he's okay. >> people are getting hit by cars. >> how is he okay? that looks really bad. >> people are getting air lifted. she's learning to walk again. there are better ways to express yourself on the internet than this. >> i'm doing that after the show. >> there's another dangerous trend invading cities across the u.s. what happened to walking? they have deposited 1300 vehicles around town and people are not happy. they're like ubers, laura. >> they just drop them in the middle of the sidewalk. >> you use your cell phone, you turn the thing on. i hope you have a direct dial to a personal injury attorney because most of these people are falling over. they don't stop gradually. they stop suddenly and people are flipping over them. again, fractures, leg breaks, arm breaks. >> don't we want people to walk? don't we have an obesity problem? now we've gone to let's move to the emergency room because you're on a scooter. >> if you're over 12, get off the scooter. >> a grown man with a backpack, wearing a knit cap or a baseball cap backwards, wearing those tight sweatpants on a scooter with a man bun and a tattoo. >> i can top you. the 50-year-olds on the skateboards at the skate park. grandpa, you're going to bust a hip. >> before i let you go, there was a piece in usa today this week that questioned whether we can still watch movies the way we once did. >> she's talking about "animal house's" 40th anniversary. she's saying the crueller moments beg the question, in the era of "me too," is it still okay to enjoy "animal house." so we have to reappraise our viewing of every old movie? 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(vo) ask your health care provider about tresiba®. covered by most commercial health insurance and medicare part d plans. >> god, we thank you for an opportunity to speak about the the hearts of those who sometimes cannot fight for themselves. thank you for this moment to be able to share our hearts with the president and his administration. dr. king said, "we cannot influence a table that we are not seated at." and so we pray that this conversation will be fruitful and productive and honoring of the the best traditions of this nation. >> how many times did you see former presidents praying like that? i love that moment. that was president trump on wednesday. he held a meeting with inner-city religious leaders where several pastors expressed support for president trump's policy, especially this new push for prison sentencing reform. that actually didn't go over very well for congregants for some of these pastors. joining me now are two of the pastors that attended then event. it's great to have all of you on tonight. let's start with you, pastor van moody. you received some blowback after being at the white house on wednesday. tell us about that. >> well, yes, i did receive a tremendous amount of blowback, a lot of name calling. a number of individuals that have been a part of a number of things that i've done, books that i've written, conferences and other ministry opportunities have said that they're leaving and many people expressed a lot of anger and frustration because i was there but also because one of the comments that i made i think was misunderstood and taken out of context when i thanked president trump for him having a heart for all people as it relates to this issue of prison reform and workforce development. so it's been quite a challenge. but once again, i think the purpose of trying to make a difference in the lives of people that are marginalized and voiceless is so much bigger. and that's why i went in the first place. >> how ironic that we have a president who seems very open to taking on this very complicated issue of prison reform, ending this scourge of recidivism where federal prison, about 76% of the current prison population have already served time. they want to put an end to that so people can rejoin communities, get jobs, have a job skill. it's a big and heavy lift, but i think they're going to get this done. and it takes everybody to do this. pastor scott, i would like you to chime in here because i think it's so brave that pastor van moody came to the white house. i can't believe i have to describe it as brave, but it is brave in this society that we live in today. >> well, i mean, he took a bold step and i commend and applaud him and the other pastors for coming as well. it's time to put those identity politics aside, put this pettiness aside, try to suppress this black/white divide and sit down and have meaningful, productive dialogue that can lead to meaningful, productive change in this country. the president has a heart for prison reform. i've been working with him on this for over a year. prison adjustment reform is another issue that is on the president's heart that he has a concern about. and we've had many different discussions concerning this. and urban revitalization issues. we're going to have the most ambitious public/private partnership regarding urban revitalization. president trump has the the potential to be the most pro-black president in my lifetime because all of the presidents -- and i've lived under 12 different presidents. he's the 12th one. the prior 11 were all reactive towards the black community. even our great icons, johnson and kennedy, they were reactive towards social upheaval. president trump is being proactive towards the black community. >> let's get antoine's response. trump can be the most pro-black president in modern history. your thoughts? >> i think that's disappointing. keep in mind i'm not a pastor, but i grew up in the church. i know a little bit about leadership. my uncle was the 133rd elected bishop in the church. and what i do know is that when a pastor steps out or in the pulpit, they represent the hearts and the minds of the entire congregation. this president has not had the best interest of african-americans. >> how do you say that with the results? >> if you look at his rhetoric, if you look at some of the things his administration has done, if you look at some of the policy stance he has taken -- >> like what? >> whether it's voter suppression. >> voter suppression? >> absolutely. >> where are you getting that? >> whether he's called mexicans rapists and thugs, this president has never been -- >> most of it is misstated. you can't do that on this show. >> and he campaigned on the issue that he wanted to undo everything barack obama had done. and so you can say what you want. listen, i'm not here to -- you do what you want. >> you giving us a speech. speeches don't work on cable television. bumper sticker mentality. pastor moody, go ahead. >> yeah, i think one of the things that people have to understand is that for me as a faith leader, i'm called to something much higher than politics and egos and ideology. and for me this was very simple. there are a number of individuals that are voiceless and disenfranchised in the prison population. african-americans, for an example, make up 12 to 13% of the american population but nearly 35% of the prison population. and so for me it's not a left or right issue. it is a how can we help issue and how can we continue to model the ethic of jesus christ.and it is not about sacrificing -- if we're going to do this, we've got to set aside petty politics and put our egos aside and find commonality between this issue of what you like and what i don't like. i believe that even if -- >> we're talking about donald trump here. you do know that, right? >> but wait a second. and i talk about in my op-ed piece, i've been on record of voicing issues that i've had with this administration, but i still believe that we ought to be able to find commonality to work for the good of other people. we have got to move beyond who we like and don't like because there are lives -- >> it's never about who we like and don't like. this is about working in a bipartisan way if we want to get something done. >> we've got two leaders. hold on, guys, all of you. >> okay. >> what i find -- and this is interesting because i hear this on my radio show all the time. i learn more by listening to people who are not in politics and not pundits like myself. i learn more from listening to other people, people of faith, people in business, than i do from people who are in that narrow lane of politics because you're living the real life. >> i don't live a real life, laura. >> i'm not trying to put down what you're saying. i'm just saying sometimes when you take it out of politics and you give it over to a higher power, good things can happen. not always, but good things can happen. and i want to now allow pastor scott to speak. go ahead. >> listen, gentleman such as -- whatever your name is. >> i was respectful to you. >> i didn't know your name so i said whatever it is. >> everybody be nice. >> duly noted. listen, you guys would rather this country fail than trump success. >> who are you guys? >> you. you then. i'll put it on you. you're talking about donald trump. you would rather the country fail than work together for donald trump to succeed. we're sitting there talking about prison reform to help prisoners and you're upset that people went in the room with him. >> i'm not upset. >> all right, guys. we're out of time but we're going to be covering prison reform for a couple of months at least. it looks like we'll actually accomplish something. we're going to bring you back. how out-of-control parents are fuelling a crisis in youth sports. oh, boy, look at that, next. [screaming] [bleep] [screaming] >> now, that's just a small sample of the absolutely ridiculous things some parents have done at youth sporting events recently. and the brunt of this increasingly harassment is being felt by the referee. the situation is so bad that 80% of high school referees are quitting within just three years. on this facebook page created by an oklahoma youth soccer referee is looking to change all that. he's offering bounties to anyone willing to give him a video. lou, it is great so see you. i'm so excited this football season is about to kick off. you and i are going to the michigan game together. i'm so excited. i'm thrilled. but i'm not thrilled to see parents completely getting out of control. is this something now or just because we have cell phone videos of it? >> i think it's because of our society, so to speak. the most important job a parent has is to prepare their children to make good can choices in life. i encourage you to go to games. i went to games for my children. however, i went there predominantly to be there thinking it's a life lesson you can teach them. life isn't always fair. the ball bounces the wrong way. and as far as the officials concerned, this is absolutely ridiculous. these official don't have children involved in this sport. they're giving their time and effort. and you always have to look at it from a different point of view. it depends upon which angle you look at this. they can't put the ball in the end zone. let's teach our children how to react to them when they do have a tragedy later on in their life later on, they know how to handle it. >> did you ever have parents come up to you and say, look, i know everything is on the line at every game, but you never play my son. he's fantastic. can't you give him a chance? do parents put pressure on you even at the college level? >> never once did i have that happen. but i always told the players this. you explain to your parents why you're not playing. their don't need to come to me. you can give them the answer. you know the things that need to be done. you explain this to them because if they come to me, i might be a little bit harsher than you will be if you explain it. if they have a problem and want to talk to me, i'm more than welcome. if i have somebody that's really working hard and wants to win and achieve something in life, it would be unfair for that individual for me to put somebody on the field who is not adequately prepared to do so. but this really bothers me about the parents because so many times they scream, they holler. i want to be there for my children when things didn't go well. when tim brown won the heisman, i went there to be with him if he did not win it. that's when people need guidance and above all, patience. >> i think part of this is parents trying to live vicariously through their kids. i played sports in high school and some in college. i love the team sports, but i don't think i'm vicariously trying to live my life through my kids. but i guess that could happen. and so they get frustrated when things don't go their way. >> these are people trying to live a second life through their children. you lived your life. let them live their life. your obligation is to prepare your children for life. and you don't do it by exhibiting temper and anger and frustration and blaming everybody else. it's always somebody else's fault. that's what's wrong with this society. let's be accountable for what happens. and the ball isn't always going to bounce your way. >> well, i'm going to see you at the michigan game. legendary coach lou holtz. thank you so much. oh, it's such an honor to talk to you. what a great guy, period. we'll be right back.

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