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>> why did you kill him i said, was he touching the little girl and he was like no, no. wasn't touching her. i said okay well, was he beating her? no he said no, he wasn't. i said well why did you kill her? and he said -- just want to go away. >> as a result of his testimony, rod, who was a meth addict, avoided prison time and enrolled in a drug rehab program. he insisted he did not come forward for a deal but because he believed his murder was wrong. >> they killed him because he was a good father. that's why they killed this guy, because he was a good dad. >> it took the jury a little over six hours to reach a verdict. >> guilty. it was just instant relief. >> that this man was in -- not going to get to walk freely, you know?
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think, worried about losing and potential prison time, or what he see that as firing up the base, and would he be right about that? >> once upon a time, i think his greatest fear -- aside from losing his wealth, was going to prison. and in this case he's less worried about that for a few reasons. first of all, there's a possibility of him being convicted and not having to do any time. sentencing will be a different question. and lawyers feel confident there's a possibility for him to dodge jail time. but more importantly, alex, the ex-president views this as martyrdom. they have bought into the narrative that the justice system is stacked against him. i think in some ways it feels like he's beating the judge and tearing him to slap a gag order
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