to try to identify any source of relevant information before making a decision. and they frankly have some leverage that we don t tab. a criminal grand jury subpoena arguably overcomes privilege assertions that a congressional subpoena does not. and i think they are litigating those issues now. so, jack smith and his team are being very thorough as they should be. they are looking for information from every possible. source all the way up to the people most directly involved in closest to the president himself, and they are going to go through that process and it will inform decisions about possible criminal charges. so none of this is surprising to me at all that they withstood issue subpoenas to be folks very close to the former president. that is what a thorough investigator. does tell me what you learned from ivanka and jared? those two with whom you are able to speak. ivanka and jared pretty early after the election were
purported executive privilege. he believes that the law entitles him to all of that information, and he is determined to get it. look, you don t charge a former president with a crime absent doing your homework, and absolutely scouring the record for any possible relevant information. and jack smith and his team at special counsel s office appear to be doing that. i hope that they go beyond what we did. we didn t have the legal means to push through some privilege assertions or the time. he does, and therefore he may get some information that, because the rules of congressional oversight are very different than the rules that apply to a criminal grand jury process that we couldn t get. you interviewed many people in trump world. some cooperated, some did not. and there of course were people who refused to be interviewed. and you were constrained by kind of the powers of what the committee had at the time. who do you think could be the most important person, if there is one, for the s
conduct. there may have been seditious conspiracy and other crimes. now, department of justice had levers we didn t have. they had the ability to push through privilege assertions to get information we weren t able to get. i think they re being careful and thorough. if you re going to bring a case of this magnitude, you want to push through everyone do you have a sense they re going bring any of those cases? the evidence is there of crimes, and absent something i don t expect, i think there will be indictments. i think there will and indictment in georgia and washington. you expect indictments in georgia. seems clear. i m bing this on the facts we found. there s strong evidence of a number of people committing crimes in georgia and federal crimes i take the attorney general s word he s going to call it on the merits. you are one of the less famous, more informed investigators here.
committee has found questionable? right, well the committee has long said that the justice department has certain powers and abilities that they lack. remember, they are congressional investigation, their legislators not federal prosecutors. they don t have the power to tony body in jail, anybody in handcuffs. they can t even, really, threatened to do that. the justice department certainly can and so i think many of these witnesses may well treat a subpoena from the justice department differently than a subpoena from a legislative branch. we ve even seen the justice department subpoena some of the same witnesses that have already testified before the committee in fact, get some the sum of the privilege assertions that some of the witnesses made before the january six committee. so i do think if they put their full effort into the
remember, they are a congressional investigation, their legislators not federal prosecutors. they don t have the power to tony put body in jail, anybody in handcuffs. they can t even, really, threatened to do that. but the justice department certainly can and so i think many of these witnesses may well treat a subpoena from the justice department differently than a subpoena from a legislative branch. we ve even seen the justice department subpoena some of the same witnesses that have already testified before the committee in fact, get some the sum of the privilege assertions that some of the witnesses made before the january six committee. so i do think if they put their full effort into the investigation they can easily go beyond what congress has done here in the congressional investigation was very robust. that is saying something, to go well beyond what the committee did given how, as you