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Not done to give equal rights to the minority and so on, is that enough, though, to defend the president? ultimately, theyre going to come forward with articles of impeachment that claim a a, b, c. >> right. absolutely its not enough. but its essential not to move off of the process argument too quickly. people inside washington think that weve talked about this for a week or two so therefore its over. the points particularly that kim made that the presidents not allowed to be present in the pro...

President george w. bush. i want to get to this ad in a bit. first, how does the partisan nature of the house vote for an inquiry affect the politics of impeachment and the ability the to persuade the country? >> well, look, one of the three big considerations that i think voters are going to have when they ultimately judge members of the house and senate for voting on this was do they believe the process was bipartisan in nature. that was the critical nature in the nixon impeachment and because...

Least give us their opinion. to be afraid of saying what they think or to run literally from the press or their own constituents, this is not a sustainable strategy. and from the poll numbers from people like cory gardener and its not going to sustain them. i think theyre trapped. the process argument has fallen apart as you say, and they dont have a good substantive argument. the presidents defense is i did it and it doesnt matter, i dont care, everything i do is fine. article ii of the constit...

And put them together for public hearings? >> yes, i think a lot of the depositions will eventually be released, but not everyone is going to have to testify publicly. and they are going to have the opportunity first to make the case in private instead of in the glare of the television. so i think that this is the way almost all investigations have taken place. and the republicans are making a process argument for one simple reason, they know they cant defend the facts. i mean, the facts are so ...

The press or their own constituents, this is not a sustainable strategy. and from the poll numbers from people like cory gardener and its not going to sustain them. i think theyre trapped. the process argument has fallen apart as you say, and they dont have a good substantive argument. the presidents defense is i did it and it doesnt matter, i dont care, everything i do is fine. article ii of the constitution allows me to do whatever the heck i want. so i dont know how senators in particular who...

Military have been outrageous, and i dont think we would get the same cooperation or same honesty if we were forcing these individuals to have to testify to millions of people and face the wrath of the president of the united states and republicans. >> but they ultimately will, right? youll take sort of the best ofs and put them together for public hearings? >> yes, i think a lot of the depositions will eventually be released, but not everyone is going to have to testify publicly. and they are g...

There. has that argument now become less important, less salient because of this vote? >> i think they will. and i think the important point is the way they use this. which is they dont feel the need to win the overall argument about what happened. so it could be a different process argument every day as long as there is something that theyre concerned about, that can feed their machine, that can feed their right-wing media machine. keep the base energized in some fashion. they dont to rebutt to...

This is pretty straight forward. we have the rough transcript and the presidents own words and other people who were on the call. i just dont think it was really that effective. they are still trying to hold on to this process. they want to have this process argument even though the house has voted the way they wanted to. that underscores the ability to defend the president. >> the president says he wants to talk about things beyond the process. >> we saw that backfire from mick mulvaney here. >...

I hope they release everything and i hope they have every single one of these witnesses testify in an open hearing in front of the american people. the process argument at least from my perspective isnt the point. process is trying to get the truth and trying to get fairness and ive not felt a single part of this is about transparency or credibility. >> let me ask you something, do you believe a united states president should be able to ask a foreign sovereign for help in an election? >> do i be...

The american people. the process argument at least from my perspective isnt the point. process is trying to get the truth and trying to get fairness and ive not felt a single part of this is about transparency or credibility. >> let me ask you something, do you believe a united states president should be able to ask a foreign sovereign for help in an election? >> do i believe -- so im going to answer the question but im going to start with this -- this president did believe that ukraine was corr...