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>> this is not new in politics unfortunately. i wish there was another argument for it but there isnt. the process argument for republicans now really comes down to how long they can sustain this. >> i do think theres a reason why democrats might want to open some of this up because it creates more of a nonpartisan feel to all of it. it innoculates them so there might be reasons why democrats want to consider that side of the argument. hypocracy abounds depending on whether it works for one part...

Yeah, i mean, theres -- theres so many comparisons to do of, like, they said this during ben becau ghazi, now theyre saying this. it gets old. play the clips of lindsey graham speaking at the clinton impeachment and now saying the exact opposite thing. i also think thats sort of what politicians do. that doesnt really knock my socks off. mostly im surprised at how much republicans are steering clear of any substantive defense of the president on the facts of this -- of the impeachment probe and ...

At being the speaker. yeah, i mean, theres so many comparisons to do of like they said this during benghazi and now theyre saying this. it gets old. you can play the clips that lindsey graham is speaking at the clinton impeachment and saying the exact opposite thing but i also think thats sort of what politicians do. that doesnt really knock my socks off. mostly im surprised at how much republicans are steering clear of any substantive defense of the president on the facts of the impeachment pro...

Not new in politics, unfortunately. i, you know, wish that there was another argument for it but there really isnt. look, the process argument for republicans now really comes down to how much longer they can sort of sustain this given that public hearings are going to begin. the reporting out there is that were going to see public hearings on impeachment in mid-november. i do think there is a prudential argument. there is a reason why democrats might want to open some of this up because it crea...

Any investigation because of the house majority rules work the way they do. they are not the ones issuing subpoenas. but they are basically being given equal time. it goes either 45 minutes, 45 minutes, democrats, republicans or an hour and an hour and goes back and forth until everyone has exhausted what they want to ask of the witnesses coming in behind closed doors. that standard practice has not changed in the structure of how these impeachment depositions and interviews are going forward. r...

And away from the scrutiny of the public eye. it is a process argument that ignores the damning substance of that private testimony. the president, though, praising the disruptors as tough, smart and understanding. but not all republicans are comfortable with this stunt. republican congressman franklin rudy, for example, sharing a little advice for both sides. >> part fortunaof the reason i really cut out for this work is im not really theatrical. >> what would be your advice to the democrats? >...

Lindsay graham who we just showed he defended this process in the past, do you buy its an issue with the process or do you think hes trying to make this witness look untrustworthy? >> i think the process argument is a distraction and is phony. what is at question here is the substance of the presidents actions. >> did he act and did he abuse the power he has as president in not giving the 391 million to the ukraine and russia. we know it is headed by putin and we dont know if the president or pu...

Hearings secret? >> you do with the republicans did yesterday because youre trying to distract from investor bill taylors testimony of the day before. they cant argue the facts we try to make a process argument and i had to go to great lengths to do it. i personally dont think the most effective way to try to defend donald trump and others from breaking federal crimes is to commit federal crimes which is what happen when into the secure area yesterday with phones and put our national security at...

Department, but members of the armed service committee were not in there. they dont have access to the transcripts. this is a deposition, so the democrats argued that all depositions are handled this way. but the overarching argument against that is that this is about the impeachment of the president of the united states. so you pull back the scope and look at it and say, why should this be open to the press? why should it be open to the public? that is a case that republicans are making in the ...

The moderate republicans even now are still holding back on saying that this is bad and that they believe that this is something that is impeachable. so to the congressmans point and to your point, chuck, its going to be really important how it is laid out. and that is why the democrats are doing this different than they did the mueller debacle, which is to have these closed-door hearings to gather all of the evidence because they are constitutionally charged with bringing the charges forward. a...