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Is to chucks point, this is really a process argument. its not should the data be collect the but its who should hold the data after its been collected. number two, you just heard ben rhodes talk about this. its not clear who will hold the data. will it be these phone companies and will they create another entity whose job solely it is to hold the data. is there some way outside of the government that it exists now -- thats a whole other hornets nest in terms of who wants to hold the data much l...

Brought russia to the table to help us negotiate a peace process. if our allies are coming to the table -- >> this whole line starts with the s.e.a.l.s having killed bin laden -- >> authorized by the commander in chief. >> i think it was -- >> but heres my question. when you have the secretary of state describe, quote, an unbelievably small attack, that was london just before the russians bailed us out. >> you know who listened to that? assad. and assad finally admitted that it has chemical weap...

Legislative branch. >> its a process argument, which is an incredible change, an incredible shift in this sure. remember in the 2004 election. bans were -- this presidential year, the past election. gale and lesbian issues didnt even come up. so the idea that, you know, the other republican leadership, the only statement they can come up with is that the federal government -- the obama administration should be defending this law, doing so with a process argument, rather than tries to talks about...

One or two-point race, that can make a difference just as much as the ground game can. is it close enough that any side can be right? yeah. theres been a few polls that all point to run result. still a close election, but if you had to bet your money, it seems at least the electoral college looks like its pretty clear. >> i think richard is right about the effects of the hurricane. and i think its especially true because mitt romney had been hoping that his closing argument, and hes making it ag...

Bipartisanship back to washington. and the presidents relationship with governor christie, who after all is the guy that gave the keynote at the republican, its undercut. theres been a sliver of movement in the presidents direction in some places. its partly due to that. undecided voters and independent voters care a lot about that process argument. thats helped the president make it. >> hes shown leadership and gives him an opportunity to somehow leadership. >> it does. i think its been a good ...

And the presidents relationship with governor christie, who after all is the guy that gave the keynote at the republican, its undercut. theres been a sliver of movement in the presidents direction in some places. its partly due to that. undecided voters and independent voters care a lot about that process argument. thats helped the president make it. >> hes shown leadership and gives him an opportunity to leadership. >> it does. i think its been a good couple weeks for the president. clearly, if...

Most of those voters who would been predisposed to be against the president anyway but on the energy side, it will intensify their desire to fight this issue out. >> susan -- >> it will apply pressure on the romney campaign as they try to figure out where they will come down on a policy response. >> there is very rarely -- i feel theres very rarely on issues that are this hot button, very rarely a 100% winner in anything. susan, the thing that keeps cropping up to me and republicans bring up to ...

To get reagan democrat, as they used to be called, to vote republican. hes going to need them for republicans to win the white house. and he says something hateful and stupid and not funny and disrespectful to both the president and to the victims of this oceanliner disaster. and he thinks that that is the way to appeal to the middle. in your study of the american electorate, john, call it fairly now, is that the way to appeal to the middle? >> lawrence, id go further than that -- further than j...

Argument. hes trying to say, the president should lose some points because hes out campaigning too much. how many american voters care about that kind of process argument, whether theyre centrist voters, base voters, any kind of voter. its a terrible mishandling. on top of the fact that it doesnt work with independents, it also inflames the presidents base. theres nothing that david plouffe and david axelrod and the white house worry about more than the democratic base deciding to stay home in n...

To see one and it would have been noncontroversial had the republicans not made this a process argument. yeah, frankly, i think most americans dont really care what section of the calendar it comes up on, what day it comes up on, what the rules are. they want to see their representative vote up or down on some of these things. we ducked and bond in the health care debate. look at the united states senate. they talk about a filibuster and run for the bills. they dont have up or down votes. what i...