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Multiple discussions with special counsels office and fbi agents described and footnoted throughout volume 1 of the mueller report, theres been a lot of reporting that he quochltquochlt cooperated with the government-w those prosecutors, with some sort of immunity deal, at least a limited immunity deal. does our understanding of that previous reporting change at all now that hes been arrested? >> i dont think it changes a lot but theres still some gaps that we havent been able to fill in. but ba...

>> i think that must relate to ongoing investigations by mueller and to places where even discussing the nature of manaforts lies in his proffer sessions with mueller would reveal essentially secrets that the prosecution believes should not be for the public. >> let me ask you about the significance of this. everyone keeps saying mueller is almost done. if he were almost done would he be seeing transcripts that come out that have this much black in them? >> no. yeah, everyone is the trump team. ...

Trumps former campaign chairman, lied to the fbi, lied to a grand jury, lied to robert zbla muellers investigators, lied, intentionally, on multiple 12k34 occasions, lied about contact with russians. hes supposed to be a cooperating witness. as you might imagine, as we so often find ourselves saying, this is a big development. cnns evan perez joins us with the latest. walk us through exactly what was and what was not in this ruling. >> reporter: anderson, prosecutors from the special counsels of...

Time he was supposed to be cooperating. he had pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate as part of the investigation. he had met with prosecutors over many, many hours of what they call proffer sessions and during that time he was lying according to the prosecutors. in the judges ruling today she said there was enough evidence to show he lied in at least three of those occasions. one had to do with a payment that he had received to help pay for some of his legal bills, and two of them had to do wi...

To deceive the special counsels office investigation and derail it to some extent, or were these instances where somebody was misremembering something that had happened a long time ago. the government presented a pretty compelling case in this hearing as to why these were not just memory lapses. >> you also bored in on the word intelligence in this document. that that was perhaps the initial attractiveness toward doing a deal with manafort for the feds. talk about that. >> something that the pro...

Were they well crafted intentional lies that were meant to deceive the special counsels office investigation, and derail it to some extent. or were these instances where somebody was misremembering something that had happened a long time ago. the government presented a pretty compelling case in this hearing as to why these were not just memory lapses. >> you also bored in on the word intelligence in this document. that that was perhaps the initial attractiveness toward doing a deal for manafort ...

With today, is exactly as you framed it. all of these lies that the government is pointing to. were they well crafted intentional lies that were meant to deceive the special counsels office investigation, and derail it to some extent. or were these instances where somebody was misremembering something that had happened a long time ago. the government presented a pretty compelling case in this hearing as to why these were not just memory lapses. >> you also bored in on the word intelligence in th...

Lewandowski out, roger was not affiliated with the campaign because he doesnt have to answer to trump. >> right. >> but i would assume, and i dont know this -- theyre talking about manafort and gates. >> okay, because those would be the people he would know. >> in that july time -- look, i was asked, and others have been asked, how often did donald trump talk to roger stone? how often do you know did roger stone talk to paul manafort and rick gates. >> yeah. >> i am sure theyre in their proffer ...

About the prosecutors laying a predicate when cohen pled guilty to lying to congress is exactly right, and heres why, go back to first principles. look at what the mueller team said in their sentencing memorandum regarding michael cohen and that charge of lying to congress. if you dont mind, rachel, id like to read just one sentence to you. >> please. >> yeah. the information provided by cohen about the moscow project in these proffer sessions is consistent with and corroborated by other informa...

Come out the way i, mueller, am going to describe them. and so back to your original question. it seems to me that something got lost in translation here. i dont necessarily think this is someone who made up facts, meaning whoever the sources are, or that buzzfeed got it wrong. but things are very nuanced when youre describing things in proffer sessions and sessions with cooperators when youre looking at 302s. there are terms of art and it seems to me that somebody who had some familiarity got s...